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Carol H
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 9:55 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was just watching CSPAN and an official from the CDC (Center For Disease Control) in the U.S. speak about the CDC's recent focus on preventing chronic disease. Particularly the "epidemics" of obesity, diabetes, and asthma. They are also looking more into incidence of stroke. All four of these diseases we believe are direct results of the overuse of MSG and free glutamate in processed foods. We should contact this organization at least as much as we contact political leaders. This organization is much more likely to have ears capable of understanding the science behind our conclusions. I suggest we send some letters to the CDC in Atlanta, GA.
Deb A.
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 10:28 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wonderful suggestion!
Is that the entire address, Carol?...I wonder if we can email them, too.
Carol H
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 3:47 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 1600 Clifton Rd, Atlanta, GA 30333, U.S.A
Tel: (404) 639-3311 / Public Inquiries: (404) 639-3534 / (800) 311-3435

The website is http://www.cdc.gov
Roy Piwovar
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 1:38 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You could also go to their contact page:

http://www.cdc.gov/netinfo.htm
Carol H
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 6:20 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Perfect, Roy :) Also, some good news - the msgtruth.org website has been receiving a boost in the number of hits in the past week.
Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 4:03 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When I visited the doctor who totally dismissed my suggestion that my weird symptoms may be the result of msg, he gave me this reasoning:

"If it were, the CDC would know about it. They tabulate and keep a very close eye on all emergency room complaints, looking for things in the environment and food supply that causes disease."

I think you're on to a productive course with the CDC.

I will write to them today. I will become more armed with information and keep pumping them with it.

Ann Luhcs
Deb A.
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 7:47 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm reposting this because I think it's important to keep sharing.

By Carol H on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 10:55 am: Edit

I was just watching CSPAN and an official from the CDC (Center For Disease Control) in the U.S. speak about the CDC's recent focus on preventing chronic disease. Particularly the "epidemics" of obesity, diabetes, and asthma. They are also looking more into incidence of stroke. All four of these diseases we believe are direct results of the overuse of MSG and free glutamate in processed foods. We should contact this organization at least as much as we contact political leaders. This organization is much more likely to have ears capable of understanding the science behind our conclusions. I suggest we send some letters to the CDC in Atlanta, GA.

By Deb A. on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:28 pm: Edit


Wonderful suggestion!
Is that the entire address, Carol?...I wonder if we can email them, too.

By Carol H on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 04:47 am: Edit


Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 1600 Clifton Rd, Atlanta, GA 30333, U.S.A
Tel: (404) 639-3311 / Public Inquiries: (404) 639-3534 / (800) 311-3435

The website is http://www.cdc.gov

By Roy Piwovar on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 02:38 pm: Edit


You could also go to their contact page:

http://www.cdc.gov/netinfo.htm
Anonymous
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 5:21 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have contacted them twice and will continue to do so as I think of ways to frame each new subject.

Ann Luhcs
Deb A.
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 9:56 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Great job, Ann. If all of us would take the time to pen our knowlegde and send it to the right groups, we may see some glint of hope. I have no more clout or abilities than anyone one else here. I have received calls asking me what I and my "group" are doing to get MSG out of our food, politically. I am so busy here and with calls and e mail,(and life) that I believe that we are doing our best to fit a real need...to inform and support all newcomers here. I share info at health fairs, churches, high school and college students, etc....anyone can do what I am doing...just do whatever comes to your mind...organize a pro-active group, a support group, write to newspapers, magazines, sharing your story....health editors are always looking for new leads...so are intern reporters..call your newspaper and ask for one and tell them you would like to give them a good story. Don't make any story too wordy or angry...simply and honestly stated works the best. Mike and I can't do this alone...Thank heaven for Carol, Roy, Tom, MEMorris, Judy, Jerry, Jack Samuels...and all who care so much....know I've missed so many names, but THANK YOU for making it possible for the help we all are giving to thousands.
Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 7:02 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have tried so many approaches to magazine articles. It is easy to write articles that highlight one or more aspects of MSG. (There is not room for the whole story in a magazine article) The problem I find with this is that it is not real effective. There is so much dietary info that bombards the general public via magazines and TV, that people have become apathetic about it, saying, "everyting must be bad for you, if you listen to all the reports."

I just wrote Oprah. Her program could take the necessary time to spotlight the scope of the problem. Her show has the audience that could, if the show was done right, create enough public outcry to push some effective energy through.

I will let you know what I hear back, if anything. I will keep writing.

The other writing I am doing is my personal story. It is a book. MSG is in the plot line. I had wanted to be free enough to dedicate more writing time by 2003, but it didn't work like that. I can write in earnest starting May 2004. Once I get the book done I will submit it for publication. I will make sure that Oprah is aware of the book, and that their website moderators beging to know who I am: "That MSG Person".

I am not a professional writer. But this MSG horror that has happened to me has impelled me to take writing classes and 'just do it'. I am giving up my food business, closing it successfully after 21 years in May 04 in order to write about this. I will still have two other businesses to administer and my garden to grow and all that cooking and dishes, but giving up the food service puts a whole mess of creative energy back into my days. And, I won't be poisoning people for money, will I?

Deb, I mention you and your site and book in nearly everything I write, because you've created solutions. I want to get you and your solutions 'out there' and help you make a difference.

Ann Luhcs
Deb A.
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 7:15 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

All our best wishes to you, Ann. You're what this cause needs. Hope you find the time to write and the momentum to keep you going.
Carol H
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 8:43 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ann, best of luck to you. I know how hard it can be to make such a decision.
Deb A.
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 9:20 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carol, Jack and Adrienne Samuels of www.truthinlabeling.org live in Illinois, but am not sure of the town...Darien, perhaps. They live part of the year in California. I know that Jack is willing to speak to groups in either state, if you ever want to organize something.
Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 10:09 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm in Illinois, too. I live in Downs, which is a tiny town 10 minutes from Bloomington/Normal, in the very middle of the state.

Because of the distractions of business I don't have good science put together - good enough to make a presentation. I am counting on Dr. Blaylock and Deb and whoever else are the best people to actually do an Oprah show. Sounds like it may be the Samuels. They have solutions, too.

I plan to keep writing to Oprah. They are a show that uses the 'personal story' angle to tell an indepth story. I think my personal story is very compelling, but I am sure each person who has 'made the connection' has just as good a story. There may be someone else out there who fits better into an Oprah show than I would.

I'm plotting to get the news out with solutions in the most powerful ways possible. I am tying to locate the most powerful means, and I've started at the top.


Deb may be the best 'personal story' to tell on Oprah.
Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 11:16 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

On the very first page of www.oprah.com is a link to 'be a guest'.

I suggest that your letter promote the fact that science exists that supports claims of msg poisoning, and that we can get experts to appear on the show.

Maybe we sould decide here and now who the experts are to name. Deb? Who are the experts:

1. A scientist or doctor (Dr. Blaylock is the one I know of)
2. The MSG Avenger
3. An activist (Samuels?)

Ann Luhcs
paula
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 8:24 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Another show worth trying might be Montell Williams. I caught a show of his a little while ago, where they were discussing the amount of children on ritalin. They were making links between food and ADHD, they seem so close to making the MSG connection. On this site you mention his show that connected autism to the MMR.
Lisa Marie
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 4:09 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ann, if you find the exact link to where to write to Oprah, I will also write. I looked on the site, but I wonder if just clicking the email link "write to us" would be the right one?
Is this the link on the site you think we should write to?
https://www.oprah.com/plugger/templates/omag.jhtml?action=respond&plugId=D22300002

Questions about nutrition, food, and weight?
Atkins, Sugar Busters, The Zone--which one of these diets WORKS? Does eating after 8 PM really make you fat? What's the best way to get calcium?
Yale Medical School's nutrition and weight-control expert, David Katz, MD, will be answering questions in O, The Oprah Magazine. What would you like to know about?
Lisa Marie
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 4:10 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

https://www.oprah.com/plugger/templates/omag.jhtml?action=respond&plugId=D22300002
This link did not show up as a link in the above, so I will try again. If it doesn't come up as a link, please copy and paste to go to the page at Oprah's site.
Lisa Marie
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 4:10 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Roy, could you help me out here and get this to post as a link? Thanks.
Roy Piwovar
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 4:59 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Try these for Oprah:

https://www.oprah.com/plugger/templates/omag.jhtml?action=respond&plugId=D22300002

http://www.oprah.com/email/reach/email_showideas.jhtml

http://www.oprah.com/tows/intheworks/tows_works_main.jhtml

and this one for Montel:

http://www.montelshow.com/show/tell.htm
Deb A.
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 8:16 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I certainly don't want to discourage anyone about sharing this with Oprah, but I have been told by someone who tried contacting her a couple years ago, that after her run-in with the beef industry, she is very leary about anything having to do with the food industry. But it can't hurt.
Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 10:08 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I can certainly understand why Oprah may feel that way. And, she may need to stay away from this issue. The big problem with the MSG battle is the FDA's stance that glutamate is a natural amino acid produced in nature and also made by the human body.

The very best arguement against the FDA's stance needs to be made in a concise way. And it needs to be promoted heavily.

What do you suggest I read that would brief me on the arguements that should be changing the FDA's mind, but haven't?

Thank you,
Ann Luhcs
Tom fernstrom
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 12:41 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ann,

Dr. Russell Blaylock's book "Excitotoxins: The Taste that Kills" and many of his subsequent writings.

In his book starting on page 248 he examines what the 1995 Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB) really reported to the FDA on the safety of MSG and how it was misconstrued.
Anonymous
Posted on Friday, March 05, 2004 - 3:11 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thank you, Tom

I have that book.

I think I will read it again.

Ann Luhcs
Deb A.
Posted on Friday, March 05, 2004 - 9:21 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Also, Adrienne Samuels, Ph.D. in Research, has written a publication about the deceit in the testing of MSG...I believe it can be found at Jack's site at www.truthinlabeling.org.
Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 4:36 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thank you, Deb.

I've got my reading to do now. Looking forward to it.

Ann Luhcs
Tom Fernstrom
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 4:16 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here are two studies that were highlighted by AOL this morning. If only they would realize that processed food with high Glutamate levels are really the cause.

http://aolsvc.health.webmd.aol.com/content/Article/83/97696.htm

http://aolsvc.health.webmd.aol.com/content/Article/82/97530.htm
Carol
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 6:03 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Another case of two symptoms of glutamate poisoning being mistaken for cause and effect. The link is the hypothalamus - damaged by MSG. The hypothalamus is responsible for both rage AND hunger. I don't think I know any teenagers not hooked on MSG-laden foods like KFC chicken and Doritos. I'm afraid they'll never get it, Tom.
Carol H
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 6:27 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now, so far, with Tom's new links, we have the following list of recent media reports linking the following:

Anger - A- Fib (rapid heart rate)
Obesity - Alzheimer's
Depression - Stroke
Depression - Gender
High blood pressure - sleep disorders
Diabetes - Alzheimer's
Smoking - Alzheimer's

Here is why MSG may be related:
Anger, hunger are regulated by the hypothalamus which has been proven to be damaged by MSG
MSG induces the pancreas to produce insulin which is implicated in Diabetes, Obesity, and Alzheimer's
Glutamate blockers are used to treat stroke.
Taurine is lowered by MSG, taurine regulates heartbeat.
Women are more likely than men to have lower taurine levels.
Nicotine is a glutamate blocker - it may reduce Alzheimer's risk in some people, while a high MSG content in a particular brand of cigarette may increase MSG damage.
Glutamate induces histamine response. Histamine triggers inflammation. Inflammation is suspected in damage in Alzheimer's disease.
It is already recognized that MSG interferes with sleep. (And we all already found that out the hard way).

Lets see if we can add to this list.
Carol H
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 6:29 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

P.S. and birth control pills (these probably contain taurine-lowering estradiol) have been linked for a while now to stroke.
Lisa Marie
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 4:00 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Link from USA Weekend March5-7, 2004. Scroll down to Alzheimers.
http://usaweekend.com/04_issues/040307/040307aging.html#alzheimers
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