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LaurenC
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Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 11:56 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I felt pretty good about doing my part today. A local radio station had a segment this morning about a food study that compared fast food to low fat food, and that the low fat food caused higher levels of stress. I couldn't stand it, so I emailed them and explained that the problem with the study is that it's the equivalent of compairing crap to junk. That the reason the low fat foods caused elevated stress levels was due to MSG and other additives. I went on to explain about hidden MSG and it's aliases, how eating real food helped me, and how real food includes things like butter, milk, and olive oil. They did a pretty good summary on air of the email and even commented on MSG going by aliases such as hydrolyzed protein, broth, and flavorings. Naturally I felt they could have talked about it longer, but it was nice to hear the media actually say it at all.
RachelleW
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Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 12:56 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's great of you to take the time to email and educated them. It's also super that it made it on the air! If even one person that heard it, puts the information to good use, than it was worth it. Although, I'm sure it will make many people at least stop for a moment and re-evaluate their food choices and how it relates to their health. Good for you! :-)
Dianne
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Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 2:45 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LaurenC,

Way to respond to an irritating part of your day by turning it into a very helpful thing for the people that were listening. Your post will make me try to be more cognitive of situations in which I can also take advantage and get the word out there.

You know if you plant the seed often enough, little by little it will grow and be recongnized for what it really is.
Deb A.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 3:38 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's wonderful, Lauren! We need more people to get involved like that...it's not hard to pick up a pen and write or email the editor of a health or women's magazine, phone into a radio show, or email a newspaper editor. Anything that gets public awareness is worth any effort. Thanks for getting involved and helping the cause!
LaurenC
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 4:58 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks all! I was so excited that they mentioned it on the air, that I emailed Natural Health magazine as well. They had an article on Ending Migraines, and a "specialist" actually recommended Advil. I didn't expect to read anything new on migraines, but I didn't expect something as archaic as Advil. Very frustrating.
Carol H
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 9:51 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lauren,
The funny thing about Advil, is that it is a glutamate blocker. I think THAT is why it relieves pain. :-)
Deb A.
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 10:34 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's the only thing that helps me, Carol....how does it block glutamate. I know is counteracts the inflammation. If I get a headache from MSG (haven't had a migraine in years, but will get an occasional headache that is quite treatable), I take 3 to 4 Ibuprofen and a generic Benedryl pill that has the least amount of questionable fillers. But with the latter, I notice it makes my sight blurry the next day, which I don't like, of course. I heard that too much use of either could cause or make worse, a glaucoma condition. Any truth to that? I heard that too much thyroid med can do the same thing..over-medication.
Deb A.
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The generic Benedryl and Benedryl( and some sleep aides) rely on Diphenhyramine HCL for the active ingredient. It makes one sleepy, and that of course, is why I take one at night when I have a headache or other MSG related reaction.
LaurenC
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 11:16 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carol, you're kidding?!? A glutamate blocker?? Well, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. My migraines laugh at Advil, but for headaches and other aches it works fine.
Carol H
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Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 9:14 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lauren that is why I think they are targeting it for "every pain".

I'll try to find more answers, Deb.
Dianne
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Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:37 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb A., In regards to medications, I think when caution is advised if you have glaucoma it is often only for 'narrow-angle'.

http://www.medicinenet.com/diphenhydramine/article.htm

"Diphenhydramine [generic for Benadryl] should be used with caution (if at all) in persons with narrow–angle glaucoma, prostatic hypertrophy (enlarged prostate gland), hyperthyroidism, cardiovascular disease, hypertension, and asthma."
Deb A.
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Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 8:50 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, Dianne. I try to take as little of OTCs as possible. But in a crunch, it's better to be able to sleep than stay awake with a terrible headache all night. I sure don't miss those. When I hear from people who are still in the throes of migraine headache pain, my heart goes out to them, and then they get a lecture about MSG. :-)
LaurenC
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Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 10:58 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb, how long did it take for you to fully overcome your migraines? I'm still trying to narrow down all my triggers, but now I'm finding I even react to rice.
Deb A.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 9:27 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lauren, it took me a year to get a real handle on them...and for a couple years after that, I would make mistakes and eat MSG by mistake more often than I do now. It's all about learning from experiences. I found out that an estrogen pill I was taking was giving me headaches, but it took me months to narrow it down. Then later, I found out that the butter I was using was causing problems for me. Now I use organic butter that I mix almost half and half with mild olive oil and a little water and salt and sugar. Soften butter first and beat in the olive oil slowly. When people who still get headaches call me, I ask them the same questions: Are you taking any vitamins or other supplements? Are you eating a lot of tomato or dairy or wheat( commercial breads and other items) products? Are you taking any gel capsules? Are you using any soy products or eating a lot of chocolate or other candy?
LaurenC
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 10:05 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Deb, this is helpful and I needed a reality check. I do eat butter daily, so I'll see how I do without it. I guess because I was fine eating butter the 1st 2 weeks of the test diet, I've been assuming it's still okay for me... even though you said it's common to develop a problem with dairy.

I think I'm okay in the other areas. I avoid all vitamins and supplements. The only medication I take daily is thyroid, and when I have to take an abortive for my migraines, I take it out of the gel cap. I rarely eat dairy (apparently I ignored that butter is dairy), wheat, or tomatoes and absolutely no soy products. Chocolate is rare and I only drink water.

I'm hoping it's not the thyroid meds. But, I have been able to string some good days together while being on it. Maybe I'll see how I do with eliminating butter. If I still have problems, maybe I'll see about switching to Armour Thyroid.
Lisa Marie
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 11:25 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lauren, I eat lots of butter. I wonder sometimes if my heart still likes me.....Deb's idea to dilute is a good one. I have yet to try it, because I like butter. At first I used Land of Lakes and did fine with it. Then, I realized they were changing it and that is when I stopped it forever. The butter I use now is either Trader Joe's, or Irish butter which I get a Whole Foods (expensive-but I love it) and also the local stuff, Prarie Farms. I have been several places, and usually if I use the local butter, which lists ONLY cream and salt, then I am okay. Two other brand names I have used, Hyland dairy, midwest, and Keller (Pennsylvania)However, I still suggest always reading the label for cream and salt-you never know when they change it. At the time I reacted to Land of Lakes it listed salt and cream..but there was NO WAY that was all that was in it. Also, only ever use the salted butter, as Deb as said, they add things to the non-salt butters.
LaurenC
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 12:05 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Lisa Marie! I'm a big fan of butter too :0) and I've been using Land O Lakes... since it lists only cream and salt I thought it "should" be fine. ha. I'm out in the boonies, so my choices are limited. I did find a store that's supposed to carry Organic Valley organic butter. Any thoughts on that brand?
LaurenC
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 12:33 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I can't believe this!! I may have just found an online store that will ship raw, organic, grassfed dairy! Oh yeah, and they don't use any additives. Okay, sorry, I'm a little excited. It says on their website that they ship to all states, so I sent them an email just to confirm.
http://www.organicpastures.com/
Deb A.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 1:48 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Organic Valley salted is a great product. I have no problems with it so far. I was using Land O Lakes and other butters up till last year when I began to have terrible pain in my right foot..the arch. I would also get a strange pain in my hips now and then. I kept a journal to try to find the culprit and when I decided to cut out the butter and switch to organic, all the problems disappeared. The doctor diagnosed my foot problem as Plantar fasia or something close. My sister had developed the same condition around the same time. She spent $150.00 on special shoes and went to physical therapy. I tried to tell her to switch to organic butter, but she prefers to do exercises for her foot and be in pain. What thyroid medication do you take?
LisaMarie
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 7:11 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LaurenC,
I agree with Deb that Organic Valley is good. I use their whole milk. I honestly have not tried their butter, since I do so well with the other butters. I am NOT able to tolerate their cream cheese---why this is, I have no idea. It is odd how some of us can tolerate some things which others can't. The thing is, that with most of us, we are pretty sure when we react to something and what we are reacting to......or we can narrow it down pretty quickly. After almost 4 years of this, I still never eat more than one new thing per day---just in case I do react. Other times, I eat nothing new in a day's time, and that is how I know that 'they' have changed ingredients in a particular thing which I am used to. Here is the nutritional info for Land of Lakes butter--please note that it says Contains:Milk That makes me wonder if they put in milk solids? Milk solids are what I can't tolerate in all milk chocolate.
LAND O LAKES® Salted Butter

Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 1 tbsp (14g)
Servings Per Container: Will depend on package size.

Amount Per Serving

Calories 100 Calories from Fat 100

% Daily Value*

Total Fat 11 g 17%

Saturated Fat 7 g 37%

Trans Fat 0 g

Cholesterol 30 mg 10%

Sodium 95 mg 4%

Total Carbohydrate 0 g 0%

Dietary Fiber 0 g 0%

Sugars 0 g

Protein 0 g

Vitamin A 8 % Calcium 0 %

Vitamin C 0 % Iron 0 %

* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
INGREDIENTS: Sweet Cream, Salt. CONTAINS: MILK
p.s.I also can't tolerate Land of Lakes eggnog.
LaurenC
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Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 4:20 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You know, I saw that it said "contains milk" on the ingredient list, and it never occurred to me that it would be anything but (duh, you'd think I'd have learned by now). It's amazing how they find ways to twist things... thanks for that insight.

Deb, I take Synthroid. Normally I use the brand version, but my new pharmacist filled the last one with generic. I don't think I notice a difference, but I'm going to switch back to the brand just in case. I have played with dosages lately and think I'm okay with the amount I'm taking.

I don't know what my hesitation with Armour is, other than when I think of medications that are derived from animals, I can't help but think of premarin and how the horses are treated.
Deb A.
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Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 11:49 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Butter that is not organic contains preservatives. It does not have to labeled just like the preservatives in other dairy products...sulfites are often added and if the amount is under a certain amount, does not have to be labeled...as with non organic mayo and potato products, and many other food items...there is a chapter in our book about it. If milk solids are present due to the fact that some of the milk residues are still present in the cream used, then it is on the label, perhaps to warn people who are milk protein sensitive. But if it is added in the form of dry milk to make the butter more solid, then it's probably best to avoid it. I think some companies take many liberties with their products that the FDA never learns about. Some get caught and we hear about the fines, but most don't, I believe.As for cream cheeses, most contain milk solids and are higher in glutamate than butter would be, since it is fat, not protein. Plus, they add thickeners that often contain glutamate. I can tolerate a little cream cheese, but can quickly reach my tolerance level for glutamate, if I eat too much. The full fat soft ones in tubs seem to bother me the least....fewer thickeners, maybe?
Rose
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Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 10:33 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For the person who was wondering about their thyroid meds, is it Levoxyl? They changed my prescription to a higher dose, and I couldn't take it because of the blue dye. But I worked with the pharmacist, and he got the doctor to agree to two prescriptions, two of the white pills and one of the purples, and it works fine. So it could be the dye instead of the actual meds.
Rose
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Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 10:34 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A P.S. to my last post. The two prescriptions I got were also Levoxyl, they just used different dyes in the other dosages.
LaurenC
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Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 - 4:32 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's interesting Rose. My current dose comes in a blue pill. I'll try it in 2 different doses. Thanks!
PC Patti
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Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:14 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I listen to Los Angeles Radio Talk Show host Adam Carolla. He is infamous for his humorous tirades and rantings on pet peeves and life's perplexities. This morning he mentioned MSG during a response to an unrelated question. He said something like......Asbestos in the fifties is like MSG today. It's everywhere. It's in all of our food.

Insightful!
LaurenC
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Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 10:57 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb, I'm back to considering thyroid alternatives. I did a search here on Armour and was wondering if you are still taking it? It looks like at one point you thought you were reacting. It seems to have the least amount of ingredients (at least compared to Synthroid). Thanks.
Deb A.
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Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 10:31 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I swtiched to Levoxyl a couple years ago...it seemed with the Armour, the amount I needed would go up and down too much. My doctor prescribed twice the amount I need, so that I could cut the pills in half, ingesting less filler...it's a pale yellow color...200 mg.

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