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Carol H
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 1:46 pm: |    |
MSN has a cover story today on obesity and its unprecedented rise in children. They tried to blame it on video games and TV. If they only knew just how much of both I had as a kid. I was a very skinny child. My generation watched batman after school and played space invaders until Prime time started - then watched TV till bedtime. We were not as obese as these kids are now. We didn't eat as much MSG as these kids do. I doubt it is Nintendo. Not one mention in this article of MSG and the fact that scientists use it regularly to make lab animals obese on purpose. Talk about being oblivious. Who writes these stories for them, the Glutes? |
Anon
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 2:53 pm: | |
Carol,
Your still a youngster! I am posting as anonymous to hide my age.(ha-ha)
We had Lincoln logs, erector sets and slide viewers with black and white TVs'.
I agree with you though, that back then there was a lot less use of MSG by the food manufacturers. Also a lot more fresher vegetables,canned foods by your parents etc..
I look back and see a more balanced diet. A lot less fast food unlike today.
Junk food consisted of mainly ice cream, cookies, fizzys, candy etc.. Very little fast food, maybe a hamburger or pizza.
Today everything is to make a fast buck, so lets add additives to save money.
It is very sad to say the least where the food industry as a whole has gone. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 5:10 pm: | |
You're right, Anonymous. There was candy. I have the cavities to prove it too. I grew up a stone's throw from a candy stand (to my Dad's utter dismay). They didn't add MSG to candy then, though. I also used to eat my grandmas butter cookies all the time. Sugar and fat have always been around. MSG hasn't. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 9:33 am: | |
I was born in '47, and we only had whole milk, cream and butter on top of everything, lots of red meat, gravy, potatoes, icecream all the time, and ate like horses. We didn't have all the after school activities that kids have today...sure we played hard, but we sat lots playing with dolls, paper dolls, black and white TV, table games and cards, etc. There were always snacks at hand, which were often rich cookies, cakes, cheeses, fruits, and milkshakes. There was no such thing as low cal anything. I remember if I happened to see an obese person or child, I would stare wide-eyed, and Grandma would have to tell me to stop staring at that "poor" person. Needles to say, obesity was rare. The most profound amounts of MSG have been added to our foods in the the 80's and 90's according to safety expert and researcher, Wayne Erickson. Mike will have a pamphlet that is almost ready to post here for down loading. Wayne wrote a pamphlet about MSG and Mike, with Wayne's permission, has been using it to develop one for all of us to use via the Net. Please feel free to print and distribute as many of them as you want. It will be ready soon. |
Judy T
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 2:31 pm: | |
Two articles worth sending to family and friends on jassekhmet.tripod.com/MSG1.htm and jassekhme.trip.com/MSG2htm. MSG - The Deadly Mouth Aphrodisiac by Janet Allen |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 7:09 pm: | |
just click below:
http://jassekhmet.tripod.com/MSG1.htm
http://jassekhmet.tripod.com/MSG2.htm |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 10:19 am: | |
Thanks,Judy and Roy. These are excellent. We need to put a link to them.
Interesting side note. At the NoMSG convention referred to in one of the articles, I was told that many of the people there got very ill on some of the food prepared by the hotel restaurant and some had to go to the hospital. The NoMSG leaders had helped plan the meal with the kitchen staff and had educated them about MSG, but somehow it got in anyway. My daughter's friend worked in a Chinese restaurant and she said some of the cooks got great fun out of adding MSG to the meals of those who requested it not be added.
Sad commentary on our society. As the articles said, we need to get some respect and soon. This national health crisis is definitely changing our children and even the unborn. Unfortunately, as the author says, the vast power behind this cover-up, is forcing us to work via grass roots efforts...but we must not give up. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 3:31 am: | |
I had to copy this new posting from the http://www.NoMSG.com discussion board:
"Restaurants will have to declare the use of MSG on the menu, or other areas of the food display.":
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0203/20/national/national13.html |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 9:48 am: | |
Is this in Canada? Where is this from? |
Pat
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 4:25 pm: | |
Do you have dates when this is to become affective ? |
Gerry Bush
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 8:15 pm: | |
New South Wles, Australia! Yeah for the Aussies! |
Gerry Bush
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 8:15 pm: | |
That's New South Wales |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 1:33 pm: | |
Wonder what our so-called watch dog, the FDA, thinks about the Aussies doing that. They still consider it too big a task to legislate better labeling of MSG....what a crock. They would probably think it would trample the rights of restaurant owners to get them to do what the Aussies have done. Hats off to the minister of health from down under! |
Pat
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 2:41 pm: | |
ditto, and double ditto |
Pat Shoffner
| | Posted on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 3:28 pm: | |
Hi,
I first came to this web sight and asked about atrial fibrillation or a-fib as my husband was having an a-fib session every three days like clockwork. I was thinking that MAYBE msg had something to do with it. I was sent to Tom Fernstrom and he has been a wealth of information as has Jack Samuels from Truth and Labeling. Tom suggested today that I relate a little bit of our problem so as to encourage you that " this ain't no myth ". We have done the 'usual' thing as all of you have too. We have been to six doctors and ended up firing the first five. My husband has taken nine different meds. to correct this irregular heartbeat and the sideaffects were really bad for him ( his body can't stand meds). Finally I asked the last doctor if there was a CAUSE of this accurring and his reply was no, that all he could do was treat the SYMPTOMS. Now, does that sound familar ? ? ? That really ticked me off ! Then comes the nomsg idea. I threw everything out of my kitchen (really) and started from scratch - thanks Deb for your cookbook - that was two months ago. It has taken quite a while but FINALLY the a-fibs have stopped (well, I am knocking on wood as I write this ) He is now up to day nine without any sessions and that is a record. We finally scheduled an ablation process when we couldn't get anywhere (it takes six weeks to get in) and that is scheduled for this Friday. Now, of course we aren't sure if we should go through with it. But, just wanted everyone to know that Tom and Jack both have been a tremendous help to me as I dig for information - and this web sight has also been a good source for me ( remember the canola oil question ? ) Anyway, sorry to ramble but don't give up on thinking it is tough sometimes. It is well worth it and you all are great people. Stay healthy, OK ? |
DJ
| | Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 2:11 am: | |
Hello Pat,
I can remember about 6 years ago, when all of my illness began, one of the symptoms I had was heart a-fibs. I use to stand at the counter at work and pray, all the while my heart was doing its "dance". It was years later that I finally connected food to this problem, but the only a-fibs I get today happen after a cup of coffee.
Even though we have all been affected differently by MSG poisoning, we share so much. Having a place to go like Deb and this websight is truly a Godsend. THANKS Deb!
DJ |
Pat
| | Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 4:00 am: | |
Thanks DJ
Glad that you are doing well - even though you had to throw the coffee away. Good to hear of somebody else that figured out the problem. It is just good to hear that somebody else has been there and gotten better. |
Tom Fernstrom
| | Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 4:59 am: | |
Pat,
Thanks for the endorsement posting. We all need encouragement to not only to begin abstaining from Excitotoxins, but also to maintain that abstention when there are so many difficult situations and tempting food choices out there.
The reward of improved health and maintaining that "Feel Great" physical euphoria is well worth the effort.  |
Carol H
| | Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 7:16 am: | |
Pat, It was being able to actually hear my racing heart pounding in my ears at night after some MSG laced restaurant food, that I came to the realization that MSG was the cause of much of my medical troubles. That was the start of the whole MSG revelation for me. Now, I am very concerned that doctors are too willing to do surgical ablation procedures for afib. I hear ads for that procedure on the radio every morning. It's like that old story about whether to put a fence on the cliff or an ambulance down in the valley. I live on the Palisades. Here, we prefer fences on the cliffs. The ambulances are usually way too late. |
Gerry Bush
| | Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 4:40 pm: | |
Pat-I too used to have a serious irregular and racing heartbeat that was absolutely linked to msg AND aspartame consumption.
Have also been diagnosed with mitral valve prolapse and a heart murmur. As long as I manage to avoid these and other excitotoxins my heartbeat stays normal. No doctor EVER connected my symtoms to msg even though when it was acute, I was only 30 years old! Doctor only prescribed a beta blocker that never controlled the irregular heartbeat. And after taking the beta-blockers for a year and a half, I became violently allergic to them to. Now I can't even take any sort of medicine even for high blood pressure.
The first time that I ever had an inkling that irregular heartbeat could be related to msg was on this site just a few years ago. The sad thing is that I am now 55. For 25 years I suffered only to have the good folks here tell me how to control the afib. So much for doctors! |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 7:25 am: | |
Re rapid heartbeat, I have learned that traditional doctors overprescribe digitalis glycosides ("Digoxin" or "Lanoxin" instead of making any connection to MSG. If you read about this drug in the book entitled, "Worst Pills Best Pills", you will see that this drug is highly toxic and must be closely monitored.(If you have any family members who swear by traditional medicine and are taking lots of drugs, this book is a must to read.) Presently, I am helping my elderly aunt who almost died from reacting to Digoxin. She was given a blood test every week to monitor the levels of digoxin in her body but she still was literally poisoned resulting in her severe loss of appetite, smell, taste, inability to sleep, etc. Two years ago, I helped my uncle recover from taking Lanoxin that pushed his kidneys over the edge -- he may have to start dialysis soon. |
Tom Fernstrom
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 6:31 am: | |
MEMorrisNJ,
To your point, on Friday, March 22, 2002 I stopped taking the Digitek (Digoxin/Lanoxin).
For about three weeks previous, I was experiencing occasional short bouts of A-Fib. I had assumed this was being caused by MSG ingestion because I was traveling and eating in restaurants. But I also noticed a return of the very sensitive nipples -- a symptom that had caused me to half the Digitek dosage previously.
Since the A-Fib bouts continued after I returned home where I knew I was not ingesting MSG, I thought that perhaps the Digitek itself was causing the bouts. I was also experiencing some swelling and fluid retention that I assumed was from the A-Fib bouts.
Almost immediately the bouts of A-Fib stopped with the Digitek elimination and each day the nipple sensitivity is diminishing. I am also urinating more often and not experiencing the swelling.
I have made an appointment with my doctor to run this self diagnosis past him for his concurrance. |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 7:38 am: | |
Tom: Here are some references from the book I mentioned that may be available in your own library --- Irregular heartbeats are one of the many signs of overdose ---- Do NOT stop taking this drug suddenly! Your doctor must give you a schedule to lower your dose gradually. ("... if you get too little, you may develop symptoms of heart failure or a rapid heart rate." Yet, they also report: "... up to 8 out of 10 long-term users can stop using the drug successfully, under close supervision by a doctor, with no harmful results." ---- You should be wearing a medical ID bracelet with the name of this drug. ---- This medication interacts with a long list of other drugs including valium, milk of magnesia (see book for list).--- While on it, you must have alot of potassium, adequate magnesium, low salt and low dietary fiber.--- In addition to checking your heart and bp, you may want to ask your doc to measure your kidney and liver functions, blood levels of potassium, magnesium and calcium PLUS blood levels of the drug itself. --- Fluid retention is one of the many signs of toxicity. In fact, these were the first signs for both my uncle and aunt. The book is available in our reference section of our library and maybe it is in yours so a purchase is not needed. Please let me know how you do. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 3:40 pm: | |
Thank you all for sharing your stories about racing heart, fibrillations, or arrhythmia. These are such common symptoms of MSG toxicity, and just today I received 2 e mail from people wondering if their racing heart conditions could be due to MSG. I sent them to this discussion board for information and was delighted to see all the related postings on this topic. I thank you from the bottom of my no-longer-racing heart!
P.S. So glad you found the answers you all were searching for and glad we could help with this site. |
Tom Fernstrom
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 11:15 am: | |
Deb A,
Please tell anyone who contacts you about A-Fib, racing heart or arrhyyhmia that they are welcome to contact me directly for more information.
As you know from a direct e-mailing to you, I have summarized a lot of information garnered off this discussion group and its linked sites into a few documents that can easily be customized to provide a quick and easy way for "newbies" to absorb and decipher pertinent information for A-Fib symptoms.
The disussion board and your site are fine ways of providing helpful information, but sometimes there is a need for one-on-one communication to make it easier for "newbies" to sort things out. If I and a few other "Oldies" are willing to devote time to answer questions directly associated with our individual symptoms, then we can get quicker results for those in need.
So I hearby volunteer to be the Heart Healthy Excitotoxin contact person for any newbies who want help and may not be comfortable with posting on the discussion board.
What I will do is keep a seperate file of those correspondences so that I can use garnered information and subsequent personal histories to document future avenues of advice. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 2:37 am: | |
More detail on the Australian ban:
"FINES FOR RESTAURANTS THAT DON'T WARN OF MSG USE
March 20, 2002
Sydney Morning Herald
Geesche Jacobsen
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0203/20/national/national13.html (note:link removed)
Regulations announced yesterday by the NSW, Australia, Health Minister, Craig Knowles, were cited as saying that restaurants will be fined if they fail to tell diners they use MSG, or monosodium glutamate.
The story says that while consumers can already identify MSG in packaged food, restaurants will in future face fines of up to $5500 if they don't provide similar warnings.
Mr Knowles was quoted as saying, "It's only courtesy to consumers and a fair thing that if people are using large amounts of added MSG they should let people know about it," and that restaurants will have to declare the use of MSG on the menu, or other areas of the food display.
The Allergy Unit of the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital estimated that between 5 to 10 per cent of the population suffered adverse effects from food additives and up to 500 patients a year tested positive to MSG intolerance." |
Tom Fernstrom
| | Posted on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 4:33 am: | |
I sent the Minister an e-mail at this site:
http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/minister/
Below is the content of the e-mail. I suggest we all do the same. Maybe this campaign will spread to the USA.
Tom
************
I applaud your effort to have restaurants notify customers when they use MSG. But are you aware that MSG is "Hidden" in a number of ingredients used today in processed foods? They include:
Cut and Carry List of Ingredients to Avoid
monosodium glutamate
glutamate
natural flavor(s)
natural flavoring(s)
maltodextrin
carrageenan
gelatin
spice(s)
seasoning(s)
seasoned salt
dough conditioner(s)
yeast extract
autolyzed yeast
autolyzed yeast extract
autolyzed anything
broth
stock
soup base
nutrasweet / aspartame
hydrolyzed protein
hydrolyzed vegetable protein (HVP)
hydrolyzed plant protein
hydrolyzed oat flour
hydrolyzed anything
sodium caseinate
calcium caseinate
caseinate
disodium guanylate
disodium inosinate
disodium caseinate
chicken/pork/beef "flavoring"
chicken/pork/beef "base"
bouillon
vegetable gum
plant protein extract
smoke flavoring(s)
malted barley flour
malt extract
malt flavoring(s)
malted barley / barley malt
malted anything
textured protein
guar gum
soy extract
soy protein
soy protein concentrate
soy protein isolate
soy sauce
whey protein
whey protein isolate
whey protein concentrate
kombu extract
l-cysteine
ajinomoto
More information can be found at:
http://www.truthinlabeling.org/
http://www.msgmyth.com
http://www.msgmyth.com/discus/index.html (discussion group)
http://www.msgtruth.org
http://www.ideatown.com/ntxa/index.html |
Ruth
| | Posted on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 10:13 am: | |
Thanks Tom!
I just e-mailed the Minister of Health with my congratulations, a bit of information on my own sensitivity to MSG, and the problem with so much of it being hidden in ingredients that a restaurant diner could be ingesting a large amount that isn't labeled. Thanks for including that long list of hidden sources and the helpful websites in your post. |
Suzanne
| | Posted on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 7:48 pm: | |
Good idea Tom, I just sent him a message also. Maybe he will be of help in some small way also. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 2:50 am: | |
Tom,
Thanks for the health minister's contact information. I just sent him the link below:
http://www.annapolis.net/members/holland/resturas.txt |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 9:52 am: | |
How come citric acid and high fructose corn syrup aren't on lists of hidden msg? |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 3:18 pm: | |
Go to our site at www.msgmyth.com and you will see corn syrup and citric acid listed in the second box. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 8:17 am: | |
Some companies claim that they make their corn syrup without chemicals and use an osmosis type process, saying this does not create as much glutamate residue. And there is some citric acid still made from citrus fruits, but most of it is made from hydrolyzed corn. For these reasons, we don't put them under the first heading. |
kEVIN
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 1:49 pm: | |
Deb,
We had an artical in the Rochester New York news paper by Celia Topping, under the heading of nutrition know-how. Basicly she explains how wonderful umami is. It goes on to talk about all forms of glutamates and how good MSG is as a flavor enhancer.
She is completly full of bull. I would like to send you the artical if its ok. It is rather long to post.
She also leaves an e-mail address.
It goes on saying how clinical studies can not trigger asthma netherless all foods with MSG must be labeled that have msg added.
She is so full of hot air it almost makes me sick.
Anyway I can send it to you?
Thanks,
Kevin |
Carol H
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 2:46 pm: | |
That reference to "umami" definitely is the clue that the Glutes got to that reporter. The glutes are practically the only ones in the US that use that ridiculous term. I spent quite a bit of time taking food science classes and the only place that term came up was in the glossy PR ads put out by Ajinomoto for selling MSG to food scientists ten years ago. You know, after that "60 Minutes" episode that explained how bad MSG was. Now this newspeak term for "drug-like reaction to an overused neurotransmitter in our food supply" is popping up all over again. It annoyed me ten years ago.... |
Kevin
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 2:54 pm: | |
Carol,
If you read this artical you would think this woman is paid by the gluts as it is so off the wall even telling people MSG is good for them and is a good food flavor enhancer.
I figured I would have to at least send it to someone.
I would try to post it but with my typing speed it would take two days.
Kevin |
PB
| | Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 8:57 am: | |
Right after I realized I was MSG sensitive; but before I'd purchased your
book; I was watching QVC, and this broth came on which said (NO MSG added).
I even listened to someone who called in who said that they were SO happy to
find a broth which didn't contain MSG. I WAS THRILLED !! I ordered
some...........then I read your book. So, I emailed the company, and this
was the response I received. Thought you might get a chuckle from it; but
it pains me to think that someone who knows that they are MSG sensitive
could be duped into thinking that this is a safe product !! I also emailed
the Heinz Company (who makes our favorite ketchup) and they emailed back
that the "natural flavorings" cannot be given to me as they do not have a
patent on their product; and the ingredients are "proprietary".
Hum........ I've given up ketchup instead !!
----- Original Message -----
From: Research and Del.
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:24 PM
Subject: Better than Bouillon
> Dear Patty,
>
> All of our Better Than Bouillon are MSG free. First of all, it is illegal
> not to declare MSG (Monosodium Glutamate) on the label based on the FDA
> labeling regulations because some people would get sick from it. Secondly,
> Autolyzed Yeast Extract and Hydrolyzed Soy Protein are not MSG. They are
> type of yeast that is naturally grown to produce the specific broth flavor
> which is totally different than MSG (chemically processed).
> So, hopefully this answered your question!!!
> |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 3:41 am: | |
The Australia New Zealand Food Authority (ANZFA) has responded, with a form letter, to my e-mail regarding their proposed mandatory declaration of MSG by restaurant and food outlets.
You can read more at:
http://www.anzfa.gov.au/foodstandards/recentstandardsdevelopment/applications/applicationa432mandatorydeclarationofmsgbyrestaurantsandfoodoutlets/index.cfm
(and click on "html") |
anon
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 8:20 pm: | |
The Seattle Times this week had a series of in-depth articles about early-onset Alzheimer's disease (people who were diagnosed in mid-life).
I wonder ... who, if anyone, is really studying the link between MSG and Alzheimers? That disease is so devastating and the numbers of people affected are growing at such an alarming rate, it seems like an important place to focus attention.
I know that MSG is responsible for many horrible symptoms and syndromes, but since Alzheimers is so common and already gets so much press, it seems like focusing attention on this ONE connection might be important. (Instead of say, trying to get the media to pay attention to ALL of MSG's effects. That can make people think we're just nuts.)
I think people might listen if we make a lot of noise and have some reliable research that makes the connection between MSG and this horrible disease.
Thoughts, anyone? |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 9:01 am: | |
What can we do to promote an MSG relationship to Alzheimer's...and what proof can we use? I am sure that there is a connection, but does anyone have any suggestions that would catapult what we suspect out there to the right people...and who would that be? Just food for thought? It's a great idea. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 9:09 pm: | |
The link below suggests that in Alzheimer's patients, neurons may have a problem with glucose metabolism, causing them to react abnormally to glutamate:
"When these neurons are stimulated by glutamate--even normal amounts of glutamate--their regular mechanisms go awry and they are flooded by calcium, with deadly consequences."
http://www.alzheimers.org/unravel.html#rpet |
anon
| | Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 8:31 pm: | |
Roy, thanks for the link. (how do you find this stuff so quickly!) I'd like to follow the trail further to find out who exactly is studying the glutamate link. But it is interesting to see that it is mentioned right there on the alzheimer's info web site, albeit somewhat lost among the list of many other theories (how DID you find that, anyway?) |
laurie M
| | Posted on Friday, July 26, 2002 - 7:30 am: | |
http://www.lundbeck.com/investor/releases/ReleaseDetails/Release_73_EN.asp
Just search for Alzheimers, glutamate and studies!! |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Friday, July 26, 2002 - 2:44 pm: | |
Great news, Laurie. Maybe the new medicine will help other MSG sufferers, too.
http://vuwin.on24.com/vuwindow/scripts/vuwin.asp?ref=quot&cb=quot&id=76367&type=av |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 4:40 pm: | |
Fascinating! Received this e mail today:
"X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200
Debby there is some work being done in the field of diabetes which has some use to those sufferring with MSG type problems. May help validate things for people. Also useful to counter the non scientific regging that people with MSG intolerance get.
Company called diatranz in New Zealand test for glutamic acid decarboxylase antibodies. Found in diabetics type 1.It is an immune system mistake after cocksackie virus infection.I suspect if you have this antibody the negative effects of loading with MSG would become apparrent more aggressively. I also wonder whether these antibodies have any influence in autism. There is an increased incidence of diabetes in schizophrenic patients.
I think in the USA there also needs to be some review of this antibody in relation to the so called epidemic of bipolar disorder.
Dr. N. G. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 8:03 pm: | |
There are links regarding Type 1 diabetes and GAD (glutamic acid decarboxylase) on http://www.msgtruth.org. It would be interesting to look into any correlation there might be between GAD and these other disorders. Also - Taurine, which may be adversely impacted by an overabundance of glutamate, is being studied for use in epileptic as well as diabetic patients. I also personally know of an Alzheimer's researcher who is studying taurine as well. Taurine was also to be investigated in ALS screening trials using FDA approved substances that could easily cross the blood brain barrier. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 8:10 pm: | |
Deb A, check out this link - it explains pyridoxine dependent epilepsy. What is interesting is that it explains what Vitamin B6 has to to with GAD (glutamic acid decarboxylase) GABA, and glutamate. http://wwwchem.csustan.edu/chem4400/sjbr/Mullins02.htm |
Carol H
| | Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 8:13 pm: | |
Here's another about GAD and autism:
http://www-east.elsevier.com/bps/abstracts/26560abs.htm |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 9:52 am: | |
This brings up so many questions that need answering as it applies to our condition....where are the scientists who should be bringing all this related info to the table? It's time to recognize a growing epidemic of excess glutamate disasters....being created prenatally, I believe and post, of course. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 10:01 am: | |
Forgot to thank you, Carol for finding these great links. How are you doing? Busy summer?
Sure has been for us...am looking forward to the slower, cooler days of fall.
Fun news: Our sons are both expecting their first babies next April! That will be 9 grandchildren!
Had a table at a health fair last night and got some good responses...talked with several women who had fibromyalgia, and who were amazed their doctors didn't tell them about excitotoxins...I had the info from the U. of Florida and they had hope in their eyes..were real excited to learn more. A couple were desperate and very tired of trying more drugs. When I go to these fairs, if I can reach just one person, it is well worth it.
What struck me is the growing number of people with fibromyalgia, and of those with family and friends who have it...epidemic proportions...don't people get it..how odd it is that this is happening to so many people? |
Carol H
| | Posted on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 3:12 pm: | |
Deb A, Congratulations on the new additions to the family! Big families are a lot of fun. I now have nine neices and nephews and its a blast!
I don't think many people are seeing the links between all these things, and the food industry ain't talkin'.
As for myself, I've been pretty busy with work, volunteering, and learning lots of new software. The band has been busy with many media appearances. I am also starting my own band now. I am also going back into NYC again more. My friend (an opera singer) and I have begun seeing plays in the city. She often saves me an extra ticket to Broadway shows and such. We are trying to recapture the fun we had last year, before all the craziness started. In fact, I met my friend and drove into Manhattan on September 11 this week, down the West Side highway looking at the beautiful sun on the Hudson river. We had a lovely dinner on restaurant row with a writer friend who lives in the city, and from there went to see Tale of the Allergists Wife. Our writer friend laughed louder than we did, and we laughed pretty hard. The crowd was small but appreciative, and it was good to hear laughter in New York City again on the anniversary of a terrible event, but we felt it was the best way to spend Wednesday. At midnite, my friend and I drove past Ground Zero. I was finally ready to see it. In my mind I had made it so much bigger in scope than it appeared from the West Side Highway. Now it looks like a construction zone, orderly, and serious, but not like I had pictured it in my head, compared to the rest of the City which looks unchanged. I could not bear yet to actually park the car, get out and peer through the fence, or even see the sphere in Battery Park up close, but the last thing in the world I felt this September 11 was fear. New York is trying to get back to normal. Now that my little brother moved into Greenwich Village this summer, fear is not an emotion I would like to associate with NY anymore. Laughter, happiness, good times with friends - that is what I want to reconnect with there again. I think there is still hope |
Kevin
| | Posted on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 4:37 am: | |
Here is a little food humor that was sent to me. I found it amusing and wanted to pass it on.
And God populated the earth with broccoli and cauliflower and spinach and green and yellow vegetables of all kinds, so Man and Woman would live long and healthy lives.
And Satan created McDonald's. And McDonald's brought forth the 99-cent double-cheeseburger. And Satan said to Man, "You want fries with that?"
And Man said, "Super size them, please." And Man gained pounds.
And God created the healthful yogurt, that woman might keep her figure that man found so fair.
And Satan froze the yogurt, and he brought forth chocolate, nuts and brightly colored sprinkle candy to put on the yogurt. And woman gained pounds.
And God said, "Try my crispy fresh salad."
And Satan brought forth creamy dressings, bacon bits, and shredded cheese.
And there was ice cream for dessert. And woman gained pounds.
And God said, "I have sent your heart healthy vegetables and olive oil with which to cook them."
And Satan brought forth chicken-fried steak from Cracker Barrel so big it needed its own platter.
And Man gained pounds, and his bad cholesterol went through the roof.
And God brought forth running shoes, Man and Woman resolved to lose those extra pounds.
And Satan brought forth cable TV with remote control so Man would not have to toil to change channels between ESPN and ESPN2. And Man gained pounds.
And God said, "You're running up the score, Devil."
And God brought forth the potato, a vegetable naturally low in fat and brimming with nutrition.
And Satan peeled off the healthful skin and sliced the starchy center into chips and deep-fat fried them. And he created sour cream dip also.
And Man clutched his remote control and ate the potato chips swaddled in cholesterol. And Satan saw and said, "It is good."
And Man went into cardiac arrest.
And God sighed and created quadruple bypass surgery.
And Satan created the HMO. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 3:53 pm: | |
Thanks, Carol...yes, we have a great time with our family. Good to hear that New York is rising to the task of finding good in the world in the aftermath, and that you are enjoying life there again. It certainly has been a tense time for Americans everywhere, but we are quite resilient.
We all should play and laugh more, and Kevin, you just gave us more of the latter. What a riot...I am going to print that one up and show it to my company tonight. Can smell my Grandmother Graesser's Roman apple cake baking now...it's in the book, and it always brings back happy memories of my grandma's kitchen. Have a wonderful evening, everyone! |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 7:50 am: | |
I received this as e mail from an online thyroid disease network. Perhaps we can reach Elisabeth Deffner and send her the recent information out of the U. of Florida about fibromyalgia and MSG/aspartame elimination, along with our book ....anyone good at tracking down addresses? Roy..Tom...haha
Article Review from Fibromyalgia AWARE Magazine (Sept-Dec 2002)
by Diana Karol Nagy
In this cover story, Elisabeth Deffner tells the story of Jennifer Watkins, Miss Pennsylvania USA 2002, who breaks stereotypes of beauty queens. Now 26, Watkins was diagnosed with FM at the age of 15, when she was a cheerleader, scholar and typical busy teenager.
Watkins says FM now "gives her opportunities she would not have had otherwise." She tries to use her celebrity to reach out to others with FM and let them know they're not alone. In addition to her charitable work, Watkins is director of media relations for a Pennsylvania company that produces several beauty pageants.
Watkins was shocked when first receiving her diagnosis and needed much care off and on until she was around 20 years old. When she was first diagnosed, she was just told to deal with the pain. But now, she gets multidisciplinary care and is off all pain medication. She takes vitamins and exercises as much as she is able to. She also believes that laughter is the best medicine.
Watkins started competing in pageants at age 18. At first she was afraid to tell people she had FM, because she was afraid people would think she couldn't work hard, but after she won Miss Pennsylvania USA 2001, she began to speak on behalf of FM. She says, "There's no reason to hide it. I'm not ashamed."
She goes on to say that having FM has changed her, but in many ways she is now a stronger person. She admits to having bad spells, but she deals with them and then moves on. Watkins wants people to know that with FM, "you can have a life, be active and reach out to others in need."
Next week: It's Not Imagined. "New brain-scan proves what people with fibromyalgia are experiencing is real pain."
For more information on Fibromyalgia AWARE Magazine or to subscribe, see the National Fibromyalgia Association's website at: www.fmaware.org
This article review is not intended to be an endorsement for Fibromyalgia AWARE Magazine or the National Fibromyalgia Association. It only serves to provide information about fibromyalgia to health care consumers. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 3:03 pm: | |
Deb A.
The only Elisabeth Deffner I came across on the web is with the Orange, CA Chamber of Commerce and Visitors Bureau, 439 E. Chapman Ave., Orange, CA 92866, (714)538-3581, ext. 13, www.orangechamber.com. I have not verified that it is same Elisabeth Deffner. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 2:02 pm: | |
Look what CompuServe's serving up to their subscribers today:
"This Food Additive Could Cause Blindness
By Cathryn Conroy, CompuServe News Editor
The flavor enhancer MSG--monosodium glutamate--has been linked to blindness in rats and possibly humans based on an animal study conducted by scientists at Hirosaki University in Japan. New Scientist magazine and Reuters report that in addition to blindness, the rats who were fed a diet high in MSG suffered serious eye damage and had thinner retinas than other animals. MSG is a common flavor enhancer in Asian and processed food used to improve the taste of sweet, salty, bitter, or sour foods.
Did you know it could do this, too? Foods that contain MSG can also create other problems. Find out a common complaint.
Previous studies had concluded that glutamate caused nerve damage when it was directly injected into the eye. Lead researcher Hiroshi Ohguro wanted to know if eating foods with MSG would also cause eye damage. The results: Glutamate, which is neurotransmitter or chemical that carries a message, reduces sight by destroying some retina cells and damaging others. The rats fed diets enriched with MSG had high levels of MSG in the fluid that bathes the retina, reports Reuters. So is it safe to eat foods with MSG? "Lesser amounts should be OK," he told New Scientist magazine Wednesday, "but the precise borderline amount is still unknown." The rats were fed a dose of MSG that was far higher than we humans would normally eat. Still, if you love the way MSG makes food taste, you might want to think about finding a new favorite spice. Peng Tee Khaw, an eye expert at Moorfields Eye Hospital in London, told Reuters, "If you're a sodium glutamate junkie, then you could potentially run into problems with your retina," he said.
Love Top Ramen, Oodles of Noodles, and Cup-a-Soup? Beware! They're packed with MSG. Find out more." |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 4:15 pm: | |
Great that the word is getting out! Thanks Roy.
Here is message posted at http://health.discovery.com/news/afp/20021021/msg.html
Oct. 23 — Eating too much monosodium glutamate (MSG), the flavor enhancer widely used in Asian cooking and snack foods, could make you go blind, according to research reported in next Saturday's New Scientist. Rats fed on diets high in MSG suffered vision loss and a thinner retina, the layer of light-sensitive cells on the rear wall of the eyeball, says a study led by Hiroshi Ohguro of the Hirosaki University. His team fed rats three different diets for six months that contained either high levels of MSG, moderate levels, or none. In rats on the high-MSG diet, some retinal nerve layers thinned by as much as 75 percent. And tests that measured retinal response to light showed they couldn't see as well. “Rats on the moderate diet also had damage, to a lesser extent," the British weekly says. MSG is an amino acid that acts as neurotransmitter — a chemical that helps sends signals among brain cells. Previous studies have shown that when MSG is injected directly into the eye, it can cause nerve damage. But Ohguro's study, says New Scientist, is the first to show that it can have this effect through food that contains MSG. The researchers notably found high concentrations of MSG in the vitreous fluid which bathes the retina. Their theory is that MSG clings to some retinal cells and destroys them, and also disrupts the ability of surviving cells to relay electrical signals to the brain. The high-level MSG diet comprised 20 percent of flavour booster, which Ohguro acknowledges is large. "Lesser amounts should be OK, but the precise borderline amount is still unknown," he was quoted as saying. The findings might explain where there is such a high rate of normal-tension glaucoma in eastern Asia, he suggests. This is a sight-threatening illness that does not have the telltale buildup of pressure in the eyeball normally associated with glaucoma. Peng Tee Khaw, a glaucoma specialist at London's Moorfields Eye Hospital, said Ohguro's concerns were credible. The amounts of MSG in the highest diet are "a lot, lot higher than you'd eat. But if you're a sodium glutamate junky, then you could potentially run into problems with your retina," Peng said. Lower dietary intakes of MSG could have an accumulative effect over decades, which would explain why people tend not to develop normal-tension glaucoma until they are in their forties. The study is published in full in a specialist journal, Experimental Eye Research.
I saw similar report in banner on CNN TV. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 4:26 am: | |
Check out http://www.msgtruth.org/eyesight.htm
Data shows that eyesight is dramatically deteriorating among Asian teens. Stroke is also on the rise among this same group. |
Evelyn H.
| | Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 6:36 am: | |
OK, I just saw this on the Web and posted it elsewhere on this site. Sorry. Should have known someone would have found and posted it before me. :-) |
Pat Shoffner
| | Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 2:22 pm: | |
Hi
Interesting information about retina etc. Before I 'wised' up I was also eating too much msg and like so many, it took years to figure out my problem was the msg thingy. 38 years ago I had a detached retina that was operated on, got another about ten years ago that was beginning to get holey so that was repaired (obviously I have retina problems in both eyes ). Then I had a cataract removed from one eye and was told I would need the other one done in the near future. By this time I threw EVERYTHING out of my kitchen ( I mentioned six months ago that my husband was going in for ablation as he had a-fib ). Anyway, went back for a check up this past spring for my other possible cataract - the doctor checked my eye THREE times because he couldln't figure out why it had improved (not a huge amoount, but some ) and that a cataract removal was not necessary at this time at least. I think it all has to do with that%^&*() stuff. Guess I'm rattling on here but just a thought on the news stuff posted. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 2:30 pm: | |
Pat - that is GREAT news. I'm still sorry that you suffered so much before finally healing, though. |
Tom Fernstrom
| | Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 6:16 am: | |
Pat,
Your news is good news and I hope Jim is doing well too. My latest eye pressure readings indicate no increases over the last two years. Previous to my having alleviated MSG & Aspartame from my diet, those readings would have been on the increase.
I'm also having success in weaning myself off the prescription medications I had been on for Congestive Heart Failure and A-Fib. I'm hoping that once I am successful with this, my pressure readings will decrease as some of the meds can cause increased eye pressure.
I have been A-Fib free for close to a year now as long as I keep the abstnance and supplementation going. |
Fran
| | Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 11:07 am: | |
Last year just before I came off MSG's I went off to the opticians as I noticed that at times my eyesight was really blurry. I came away with glasses after being told that it was my age (42). I was kind of proud of my new glasses and put them on the next day only to find that I could not see properly out of them. I thought this was a bit strange. Over the days I began to notice that my eyesight could change from being spot on to not being able to see anything close up. Threading needles was a big test. Could this have been down to the ammount that was in my system at any given time?
Guess what happened when I stopped MSG? My eyesight has stayed the same and I don't need the glasses. If only, if only if only people would take this issue seriously. So many of us have been through h*** and back. I sometimes get kind of mad thinking about all the lost years I had. But then I think I am lucky as I found out. But some people do not want to hear.
Can we write to the writers of these articles to do with msg and eyesight and tell them how wrong they have it. The BBC one made out that you only got levels of MSG at chinese takeaways and this was safe twice a week!!!! I would be dead after thé first course of the first takeaway
My best to all of you
Fran |
Judy T
| | Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 3:51 pm: | |
Pat: Fantastic news! Fran: Wow, I'm impressed. My eyes, too, have stayed the same for the past 3 years. They were going down annually. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 1:53 pm: | |
Same here. In fact, when I was just in the first year or two of trying to eliminate MSG, I had an appointment with my optomotrist, and my eye pressure test was bad. Pressure was around 23 and 26 and the doctor was worried about glaucoma. I was in my 40's. I told him I had been poisoned by MSG the night before and had a bad headache and could I be retested in a week. He said he was aware that MSG did "bad things" to the eyes and agreed. My readings the following week were 15 and 16. He was amazed and wondered how many others were effected. Fran, it never hurts to write letters. One never knows when they will be read by the right person and published or passed on to some scientist or doctor. |
su
| | Posted on Monday, December 02, 2002 - 5:34 pm: | |
The evidence just keeps on coming. My husband was getting terrible palpitaions daily since using Starbucks coffee while out at work. It was even decaff, I think they flavor it, even the plain stuff.
I also learned that they use genetically modified ingredients. I wonder if gmo food is prone to have msg, since it is really processed. And for the record
Several companies including Dannon yogurt changed their ingredients for the Europeans. Dannon stopped using GMOs for the European consumer but continues to sell GMO contaminant product to us dumb Americans.
I am insulted. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 6:28 pm: | |
The Wall
street Journal of today, December 16, 2002 devoted an entire page and part of the first page to perchlorate runoff making its way to water supply of millions. Identified in 22 states, including Arizona, Texas, Nebraska, Iowa, New York, Maryland and Massachusetts. The Colorado River the main source of water for about 15 million homes across the Southwest contains perchlorate at roughly seven times the level that that the EPA says is safe. The Colorado River water irrigates 95% of america's winter lettuce crop.
Even the smallest traces of perchlorate may be dangerous. Perchlorate affects production of thyroid hormones and can cause thyroid disease. Fetuses and newborns are at even greater risk because thyroid hormone production is crucial to normal brain development.
A Must-Read. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 2:49 am: | |
The link below is to a newspaper article about MSG as a migraine trigger:
http://www.channelcincinnati.com/health/298989/detail.html','width=450,height=225')/ |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 2:52 am: | |
correction:
The above link refers to a TV broadcast. It has a video attached. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 2:54 am: | |
(p.s. - the video link does not work) |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 1:52 pm: | |
Thanks for posting that, Roy. I have seen that article before. See what we can do, folks??? Write to the health editor of your local newspaper sharing your own story and you will be surprised what can happen. When writing about MSG, it is best to sound well informed, and not opinionated and angry...and be sure to make it obvious that you want to help others avoid what you have gone through. If more people did this, it would really make an impact! |
Judy T
| | Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 1:21 pm: | |
Hey! We hit the big time! The March/April edition of Experience Life magazine lists this site as one of others to contact regarding Excitotoxins. Yes the name of the article is "Excitotoxins, They're supposed to enhance flavor and excite your tastebuds, but could these common food additives also be overexciting your cells---and doing damage to your nervous system?" Olney, Blaylock and Schwartz are highlighted. The author is Matthew Solan. The article is 3 pages long and gives a great background. Boxed area are "The many faces of msg" and "Are you reacting to msg?" The editors are at lifetimefitness.com Please buy this magazine to support them and/or e-mail them (the editor is at experiencelife@lifetimefitness.com ) and thank them for the article. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 5:10 pm: | |
Here's a link to the Excitotoxins article:
http://www.lifetimefitness.com/magazine/index.cfm?web_action=article_detail&article_id=119 |
Carol H
| | Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 8:12 am: | |
Wonderful article. He pegged it exactly and thoroughly. Bravo! |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 9:02 am: | |
Judy, how did you find this? Mike and I are grinning from ear to ear and can't stop. I've sent several journalists to Carol's site, Jack's, and NoMSG's. In the last several months we have been contacted by an amazing number of journalists, some freelance, who have been assigned, and others who have decided to do an independent article about excitotoxins...how exciting is that?!...but often we just wait and can only hope that an editor will actually approve of the controversial topic and print the story. You are all part of this story and the cause...our site was mentioned I think, because the author could read the comments here on this board and easily come to the conclusion that we are not a bunch of uneducated alarmists. The only way that this issue will get the public's attention is if we do as Carol just suggested here about writing our congressmen, and what Judy just suggested about e amiling the editor of this magazine and thanking him/her also. Then we can look for articles in upcoming magazines that are about excitotoxin issues (migraine, ADD, racing heart, depression, obesity, fibromyalgia, etc.) and when MSG/aspartame are NOT mentioned, let them know what you know, and if it IS, take a minute and thank them, sharing your story briefly. Editorials are printed and any extended coverage will reach even more people. Education is key. And now that there is a new article out, you can bet the glutes will be launching a counter attack...they always do. So while this will be a hot topic, it is the best time to get involved with e mail and letters. It won't last...and then we will wait and hope for another break. Let's all get busy and strike while the iron is hot. Thanks guys! |
Judy T
| | Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 10:30 am: | |
My son-in-law received the magazine as a complimentary copy (he is a world class triathlete and many of the articles are about health and sports in general). I can't find the magazine at Barnes and Noble or at Borders so I'm going to write the editor and get some copies, probably at $4 a copy. Why? 'Cause when friends or others ask for info from me, I don't have to photocopy mounds of material, explain what is hard for me to explain, and get past their looks of incredibility. I can give them a copy of the magazine, on loan, and tell them to read page 452. This is a very credible appearing magazine and of course the article is just right...while not going into the details of either symptoms or msg hidden sources that we all live, it does give enough information to catch about 80% of folks who suffer and gives about 80% of the remedies or ameliorating remedies. The magazine is really top rate when you look at the advertisers and quality of format, etc., and has a two year history at least from looking at the guts of it. It must be such a select group of readers, however, that it does not appear on magazine racks which is too bad. Please, everyone, check out the article as Roy gave the link above. Write the editor and thank them, ask for more about excitotoxins, let's keep the ball rolling. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 1:31 pm: | |
Judy T, it is the magazine of a health and fitness club that appears to have club locations in at least 8 states. There is probably a very good readership in those states. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 8:48 pm: | |
Carol, can you tell us a few of the states (clubs)that the magazine appears in... any out here in the West? Think I will try and get a copy and do the same as you, Judy. It sure is nice to have something to arm yourself with, and the article is very good. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 8:53 pm: | |
Carol, regarding the link request that Tom suggested, I asked that your site be added, too. Hope that is okay. Yours may have a better chance, since it is a ".org" site. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 1:53 pm: | |
No problem |
Tom Fernstrom
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 5:04 am: | |
Judy T, Deb A. and Carol,
I took the web link to the Experience Life article and circulated it to all my personal and work e-mail distribution lists. Many of the people on these lists are familiar with me and my health issues with regard to my Congestive Heart Failure of a couple of years ago, but may not have paid attention to my "rantings" about MSG. Because this article was so concise and well written (as well as having the "authority" of being published), I thought it opportune to distribute it this way. I have received a good number of thanks and anecdotal accounts of similar experiences. Many have even passed the information on to friends and relatives.
I thought I'd do this right away in case the article gets archived soon. We'll have to track this in case it does so we can reference the archived link location.
I also finally made the employee suggestion to my company (SBC) that they consider studying the employee base' nutritional habits to determine what is driving up their medical costs and absenteeism. There are 750,000 employees and their dependents associated with SBC and healthcare costs and attendance management is a problem.
SBC had 2 Million work days of absence last year. It is as if the entire SBC workforce of Wisconsin and Arkansas put together - were gone EVERY DAY.....
10% of workforce = 90% of absence
Healthcare costs: $2.2 BILLION in 2002.
2003 will increase $300 Million, Management increased contribution will cover $100 Million of that...
It is hopeful that with the above figures some of these larger companies will sit up and take notice of what excitotoxins might be costing them. If just 10% of the 750,000 could be helped by abstinence and supplementation, that would save SBC $250 million in 2003. Imagine how that amount of money could finance a campaign against the food industry’s continued use of the poisons.
I’m not sure if this is a coincidence, but recently SBC and the City of Chicago distributed a survey designed to seek information from its employees about various health concerns and habits. Many of the questions in the survey dealt with stress, anxiety and other symptoms that could be attributed to excitotoxins. It may be the first step to collect data to identify the underlying causes of poor health among middle class America. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 7:25 am: | |
Wonderful work,Tom. I would love to post that published article on this site, but am sure I would need permission from the magazine. I should e mail and ask for that.
HMO's are paying for excitotoxin related illnesses and don't even know it....good place to get the info to. |
Judy T
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 8:33 am: | |
Tom: You are most ambitious and I think you can make strides with your company. Who knows, maybe not at first but one seed will probably grow. Your idea of distributing the link and e-mailing it to friends/relatives was brilliant. Of course. I'll do that right away for my circle of folks. Thank you. |
Margie
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 7:12 am: | |
Thanks Roy for posting that link! I emailed a thank you letter to Cincinatti news for publishing it. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 10:44 am: | |
Another sad and scary story in the news yesterday. I heard on the radio that Gulf war veterans are now coming down with Lou Gehrig's disease in large numbers. It may have been the most large scale food safety experiment in history. Imagine American GIs all dutifully eating their MREs with the REQUIRED amount of MSG added to them ON PURPOSE, and drinking lots of free diet soda, (it was after all- the desert) supplied to them by our wonderful corporate sponsors. You know, the diet sodas that came over on pallets and weren't refrigerated before the GIs drank them. (You know, the diet sodas with aspartame in them - the stuff that breaks down in heat, and acts synergistically with MSG to damage the heat regulating part of the brain). What a great irony, that Donald Rumsfeld, the guy who helped see to it that aspartame got approved over the objections of the FDA scientists, would preside over the mass poisoning of his own troops by MSG and aspartame. I don't know about you, but if I wasn't sure about the MSG and aspartame link to Lou Gehrig's disease - this would clinch the connection for me...... |
Carol H
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 10:48 am: | |
A link: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-09-22-gulf-war-als_x.htm |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 11:48 am: | |
You know, I never liked Rumsfield, and nearly puked when I heard some Bimbo on a radio talk show call him "sexy". Now I KNOW he's an AS*.
Why in God's name would he DO such a thing with that pea brain of his? Override scientific research ?? What was his 'excuse' this time? Who is HE to refute scientific data?? Sounds like the man needs to be strung up by his balls, tarred and feathered.
I read the article and that is *scary*. Apparently the Wornick company contracts with the govt to sell loads of this stuff. I'd love to be a fly on the wall and witness how the so called "food" is processed and exactly *what* is put in it.
Were they really given free diet sodas?? If so, by which sponsor?? |
Tom Fernstrom
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 5:59 am: | |
Carol,
Thanks for the link to the article. I went on the VA sight at:
https://iris.va.gov/Scripts/iris.cfg/php.exe/enduser/cci/ask_1.php?p_sid=dd1gi7Ug&p_lva=&p_sp=&p_li=
and sent a suggestion to my local VA hospital that stated:
"I would like to suggest to Veterans Affairs Secretary Anthony Principi that he consider the cause of increased cases of ALS, MS and Parkinson's diseases in Gulf War Veterans might be linked to ingestion of Excitotoxins such as Monosodium Glutamate and Aspartame. He can refer to Dr. Russell Blaylock's research in the book "Excitotoxins: The Taste that Kills" or contact Debby Anglesey author of "Battling the MSG Myth" at avenger@msgmyth.com. We care about our soldiers and veterans and should not be putting them in harm's way by providing them with questionable food and drink additives."
Perhaps others here could do the same so that they get a minnie flood of letters. |
Tom Fernstrom
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 8:15 am: | |
Carol,
Also I took advantage of researching this article's references and sent out the below e-mails -- may I suggest that others take advantage of this research and send like e-mails:
Robert.Haley@UTSouthwestern.edu
Robert Haley
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas
Neuro_Journal@urmc.rochester.edu
Robert Griggs
Editor, Neurology Journal
rh266m@nih.gov
Ronnie Horner
National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke
srobinson@ngwrc.org
Stephen Robinson
National Gulf War Resource Center
Having read the recent article in USA TODAY titled “Studies tie Lou Gehrig's disease to Gulf War vets” by Rita Rubin, I would like to suggest that you consider that the cause of increased cases of ALS, MS and Parkinson's diseases in Gulf War Veterans might be linked to ingestion of Excitotoxins such as Monosodium Glutamate and Aspartame.
These food additives are relatively new to the scene (post WWII) and thus could be linked to more recent military conflicts where soldiers consume MREs with added MSG and drink diet sodas containing Aspartame from containers exposed to high temperatures.
You can refer to Dr. Russell Blaylock's research in the book "Excitotoxins: The Taste that Kills" or contact Debby Anglesey author of "Battling the MSG Myth" at avenger@msgmyth.com. We care about our soldiers and veterans and should not be putting them in harm's way by providing them with questionable food and drink additives.
Sincerely,
Tom Fernstrom
Tfernstrom@aol.com
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editor@usatoday.com
Editorial/Opinion
USA TODAY
Having read the recent article in USA TODAY titled "Studies tie Lou Gehrig's disease to Gulf War vets" by Rita Rubin, I would like to suggest that Rita consider that the cause of increased cases of ALS, MS and Parkinson's diseases in Gulf War Veterans might be linked to ingestion of Excitotoxins such as Monosodium Glutamate and Aspartame.
These food additives are relatively new to the scene (post WWII) and thus could be linked to more recent military conflicts where soldiers consume MREs with added MSG and drink diet sodas containing Aspartame from containers exposed to high temperatures.
She can refer to Dr. Russell Blaylock's research in the book "Excitotoxins: The Taste that Kills" or contact Debby Anglesey author of "Battling the MSG Myth" at avenger@msgmyth.com. We care about our soldiers and veterans and should not be putting them in harm's way by providing them with questionable food and drink additives.
Sincerely,
Tom Fernstrom
Tfernstrom@aol.com
(They ask that you include your address and daytime telephone number)
CC:
Robert.Haley@UTSouthwestern.edu
Robert Haley
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas
Neuro_Journal@urmc.rochester.edu
Robert Griggs
Editor, Neurology Journal
rh266m@nih.gov
Ronnie Horner
National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke
srobinson@ngwrc.org
Stephen Robinson
National Gulf War Resource Center |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 2:33 pm: | |
Bravo, Tom!!!!
There's a chapter in our book making that connection..it may have sounded crazy to some back then, but we believed it made perfect sense, and now with this news, Carol, all the more so. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 4:50 am: | |
Tom, you are the BEST! Thank you. |
Tom Fernstrom
| | Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 4:57 am: | |
Dear NOMSGers,
On Tuesday, September 23, 2003, WGN TV News broadcast a health segment news story that stated the below:
"Alzheimer's Treatment
The Food and Drug Administration is considering approval of a new drug aimed at newly diagnosed and late stage Alzheimer's patients.
Memantine works like no other approved Alzheimer's therapy.
Instead of stimulating memory cells, it stops the brain chemical glutamate from getting overstimulated.
Memantine studies at the Chicago Center for Clinical Research helped document the benefits. Doctors compared patients' cognitive ability behavior and daily activities.
The FDA will hold a public hearing Wednesday before making a recommendation.
Memantine would work in conjunction with currently approved Alzheimer's drugs to boost a patient's overall performance."
If you check out this website: http://www.memantine.com/index.htm
It becomes obvious that the effects of Glutamate on the brain are becoming obvious to the pharmaceutical industry.
How can we use this data to approach the FDA and prove to them that while fast tracking the approval of a drug to block Glutamate activity and which sells for about $219 for 56 pills, they could well enough use this same research to revisit their approval of added glutamate to our food supply? |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 8:18 am: | |
They HAVE to know that food is causing the problem...they get so many complaints about MSG and aspartame, and they also have access to animal studies and the lastest tests on humans...which, when given to the public, are edited of certain data, according to Adrienne Samuels....I will post her study on our site. They are covering their behinds, in my opinion. But if I'm wrong, and they are just bogged down by red tape, constant changing of the leadership (which they known for),and are totally ignorant of the facts, then, sending them some of the latest findings of the glutamate/glaucoma/heart/migraine, etc. connection (from headlines) may be a start. The problem is that they stand by the glutes who say that MSG cannot cross the blood brain barrier...which is ridiculous...are they just counting on the average person to not question that or to be ignorant of what goes on with the brain and excitotoxins? I think this goes beyond commom decency into public deceit(perhaps for the economic and political ramifications). But we must try to reach the FDA and the public...perhaps HMO's, too. I think offering proof that there is excess glutamate being added to foods, and that it can leak into the brain (hypothalamus and brain stem))would be a good way to start. Letters, and lots of them is what would be good. Just thinking out loud. |
Margie
| | Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 1:23 pm: | |
I agree with you Deb. They know quite well what this is doing to people. How can they not with all the supporting evidence...including pharmaceutical drugs which counteract excesses of glutamate?? Antidepressants? Now Memantine? It's one big lie is what it is...and all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Valerie
| | Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 6:45 pm: | |
Couldn't have said it better myself! Well done Margie. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Friday, January 09, 2004 - 1:18 pm: | |
Anyone see this latest story on asthma being highest in minority neighborhoods in Chicago? http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-health08.html It seems asthma rates differ BY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I bet no one is checking proximity of these kids to fast food places (found often in cities)in their neighborhoods. Different rates of addition of MSG to fast foods which would depend on each individual fast-food establishment would probably produce an effect like this. KFC for example may use more MSG than McDonald's, or a particularly popular bodega may go heavy on the use of Adobo seasoning which is mostly MSG. Why are they not looking at this? |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 11:01 am: | |
With fast food chains targeting minority neighborhoods, I don't see the situation improving any time soon.
http://www.commercialexploitation.com/articles/african_american_perspectives.htm |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 1:16 pm: | |
Current issue of "Living Without" magazine (Winter 2004) has article on MSG. Resources listed are Deb's cookbook and the Battling the MSGMyth website; George Schwartz M.D.'s book "In Bad Taste"; and The Truth In Labeling Campaign's website.
There is also an excellent artiicle on Sulfites and an article on apparent food sensitivities due to the latex gloves worn by some food handlers. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 1:54 pm: | |
Here's a link to "Living Without" magazine (the article is not online yet).
http://www.livingwithout.com/2003winter.htm |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:21 am: | |
I sure would like to get a copy of that issue...don't have a Whole Foods market here...can probably order one. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:07 pm: | |
Deb A.
I'll be happy to send you my copy. It may take me a few days to send it.
I noticed only after sending the original post that the article states in small print that it was originally printed in Fall 2000. There is a short update however. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 8:43 am: | |
Anonymous, thank you so much! But if it is a reprint, then I have it from the Fall issue. I don't think they included our web site address in the old issue...is it in this one? We have had lots more email and phone calls lately...it must be due to this article. It takes something like this to spur more interest in MSG. We need to send more such articles to other magazines! |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 10:38 am: | |
Yes, Deb A. The issue does include your web site address. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 1:07 pm: | |
Thanks, Anon. Would you please give me the name of the author. Is there an e mail address in the magazine where I can write to the editor? I have given my copy away. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 11:19 am: | |
DebA.
The author is Kathy Evans Wisner.
Write to:
Editor@LivingWithout.com
or
Living Without P.O. Box 2126
Northbrook, Il. 600065 |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 5:05 pm: | |
Deb A.:
I sent you tonight by priority mail a copy of the above issue of Living Without. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:49 am: | |
Thank you!!!! |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:05 am: | |
I thought this should be posted again. Thanks, Carol.
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By Carol H on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:23 pm: Edit
For anyone interested in contacting US congress about the Bush Admin.'s reaction to the obesity report put out by the World Health Organization, here is the CSPI action alert
The food lobby may be fighting this report because it blames them. When you respond to this, please mention that MSG has been proven to cause obesity. The food industry is fighting this report tooth and nail because it would focus attention and blame exactly where the food industry does not want it - on them, and their industry which - like the tobacco industry gets people addicted to their product by taking advantage of the fact that glutamate acts like a drug.
Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) Tommy Thompson and
lobbyists for the Grocery Manufacturers of America are urging
the World Health Organization (WHO) to weaken its anti-obesity
recommendations. Tell Secretary Thompson to drop his opposition
to the WHO's anti-obesity policy.
You can take action on this alert either via email (please see
directions below) or via the web at:
http://cspinet.org/alert/WHO
Visit the web address below to tell your friends about this.
http://cspinet.org/alert/WHO/forward
Stop the Bush Administration from Burying WHO Anti-Obesity
Report
INSTRUCTIONS TO RESPOND VIA THE WEB:
If you have access to a web browser, you can take action on this
alert by going to the following URL:
http://cspinet.org/alert/WHO
INSTRUCTIONS TO RESPOND VIA EMAIL:
Just choose the "reply to sender" option on your email program.
Your letter will be addressed and sent to:
Secretary Tommy Thompson
----THIS LETTER WILL BE SENT IN YOUR NAME----
Dear [decision maker name automatically inserted here],
Please abandon your efforts to weaken the long-awaited World
Health Organization (WHO) Global Strategy on Diet, Physical
Activity and Health.
A healthy diet is crucial to preventing obesity, diabetes, heart
disease, cancer and other chronic illnesses. The WHO's
recommendations would help consumers improve their diets by
calling on governments to limit food advertising aimed at
children, to use fiscal and pricing policies to encourage the
consumption of healthful foods, and to consider ways to
discourage the use of unhealthful ingredients like trans fatty
acids. Such approaches support - not supplant - people's efforts
to exercise personal responsibility and make healthier food
choices.
Your office has previously called on the WHO to adopt far
weaker, unspecified approaches, like "better data and
surveillance." However, billions of dollars spent by the
industry on junk food advertising, inadequate food labeling, and
pricing policies that promote the over-consumption of
high-calorie foods are just a few of the elements of the overall
food environment that make it difficult for consumers,
especially children, to exercise individual responsibility.
Limits on food marketing aimed at children and restrictions on
the use of unhealthful food ingredients, as called for in the
WHO Global Strategy, are essential tools in the effort to help
Americans eat better and maintain a healthy weight. We urge you
to let the WHO report be finalized without changes called for by
the food industry.
----END OF LETTER TO BE SENT----
Sincerely,
Your Name here
cc:
Assistant Director General Catherine Le Gales-Camus
Director General LEE Jong-wook
Special Assistant William Steiger
Your Congressperson
Your Senators |
T.L.
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 9:20 am: | |
Thought I'd post this one here:
Again...they have named the culprit to be glutamate...but don't relate it to the poisoning of our food with it. It's from WebMD:
"Brain Scans Reveal ADHD Differences
Some Children with ADHD May Have Different Levels of Brain Chemicals
By Jennifer Warner"
WebMD Medical News Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario, MD
on Thursday, December 04, 2003
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Dec. 4, 2003 -- Children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) may actually have different levels of certain chemicals in the brain than other children, a new study shows.
Using new imaging techniques, researchers found that children with the hyperactive form of ADHD had 2 1-2 times more of a brain chemical known as glutamate, which acts like a stimulant in the brain. In addition, the brains of children with this subtype of ADHD also had lower than normal levels of GABA, a chemical that has inhibitory properties in the brain.
Both of these chemicals are neurotransmitters that carry signals to and from nerve cells in the brain. Researchers say these differences may explain the behavior of children with poor impulse control.
"Glutamate is an excitatory amino acid that leads to easier stimulation and excited neuronal pathways," says researcher Helen Courvoisie, MD, assistant professor of child and adolescent psychiatry at Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions in Baltimore. "GABA is an inhibitory neurotransmitter and inhibits those pathways in the brain."
In addition to revealing differences in brain chemistry, the study also showed that these gaps correlated to the children's scores on tests of language, memory, sensory, and learning skills.
Courvoisie discussed the findings of the study Thursday at a briefing on neurological disorders sponsored by the American Medical Association in New York City. The study also appears in the December issue of the Journal of Neuropsychiatry and Clinical Neurosciences.
The Brain and ADHD
Researchers stress this is only a preliminary finding and more study is needed to confirm these results. But by better understanding the workings of the brain in children with ADHD through studies like this, they may be able to develop improved treatments. The findings may also eventually lead to the discovery of a biomarker for ADHD that could be used in screening for the condition.
The study used a variation of MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) to measure the levels of six chemicals in a small area in the frontal lobe of the brain. This area is responsible for controlling several key functions involved in ADHD, including impulse control, attention, movement, and language.
Researchers measured the levels of these brain chemicals in 16 children ages 6 to 12 years old. Eight of the children had previously been diagnosed with the hyperactive type of ADHD.
There are three types of ADD: attention deficit, hyperactive, and combined type. Most children have the combined type.
The brain imaging indicated that with children with this subtype of ADHD are exposed to higher than normal levels of excitatory brain chemicals.
However, all of the children with ADHD were taking some type of stimulant, such as Ritalin, although they did not take the medication for at least 24 hours before imaging or the psychological testing.
"We don't know if some of these effects could be due to long-term effects of Ritalin," says Courvoisie. "It is a short-acting drug, and we would think that it wouldn't, but it is possible."
In addition, researchers say they can't say at this point whether the findings of this study would apply to the other types of ADHD.
That's why Courvoisie says further studies are needed to look at the brain function in children with ADHD both on and off stimulant medication.
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SOURCES: Courvoisie, H. Journal of Neuropsychiatry and Clinical Neurosciences, December 2003; vol 15. Helen Courvoisie, MD, assistant professor, division of child and adolescent psychiatry, Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions, Baltimore.
© 2003 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 2:19 pm: | |
Thanks, T. L. Again, it supports everything we have been saying for years about ADHD. What can we do to open their eyes to the fact that MSG is the problem in our food??? And that it is destroying our kids? |
Carol H
| | Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 7:26 pm: | |
Another story about ALS and U.S. military service - where they force feed the troops MSG. A 60% greater chance of getting A.L.S. than non-military persons. These soldiers served before the Gulf War, so this is not Gulf War syndrome. It is something else. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=4992347
I think it is the MSG. Why else would U.S. soldiers today have a higher rate of suicide than in Viet Nam, AND a 60% greater risk of A.L.S. to boot? Coincidence? I think not. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:07 pm: | |
You're finding some great stuff! There's enough information out there...just got to get it to the right folks!....and also convince them that the glutamate in our food is getting into the brain. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 6:22 am: | |
Carol,
The article linked below mentions that the US Army was a pioneer user of MSG, in its "C Rations", and that the food industry followed.
http://www.focusnewsletter.org/msg.htm |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 3:27 pm: | |
I downloaded the article....well written...must have been before NoMSG ceased. Our poor soldiers! |
Tom Fernstrom
| | Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 6:14 am: | |
Deb A, Carol & Roy,
A few facts mixed with a few recollections:
Discovery of Glutamate
The first steps in the discovery of MSG took place at Tokyo Imperial University in 1907. Professor Kikunae Ikeda noted "There is a taste which is common to asparagus, tomatoes, cheese and meat, but which is not one of the four well-known tastes of sweet, sour, bitter and salty."
He started experimental work on Kombu Seaweed, another source in which he found the taste was present. He succeeded in extracting crystals of Glutamic Acid, 100 grams of Kombu Seaweed containing around 1 gram of Glutamate. He noted that the Glutamate had a distinctive taste, different from Sweet, Sour, Bitter and Salty, he gave this taste the name "umami". Shortly after he isolated MSG, Kikunae Ikeda became a partner in what would become the Aji-no-moto (the "essence of taste") Company. In fact, throughout the Orient MSG is known as Aji-no-moto, much as "xerox" is used as a generic term for copying machines or "kleenex" for all paper tissues in the United States. In recognition of the importance of his work, Dr. Ikeda's original isolated substance is encased in a monument at Tokyo University.
If I recall correctly, it was the Japanese who first added MSG (made from seaweed) into their military rations. The food additive, monosodium glutamate, was first used in the United States in any quantity in the late 1940s. According to Dr. George Schwartz, author of In Bad Taste: The MSG Syndrome, although considerable effort had been spent to introduce MSG to the USA, little had been accomplished prior to World War II. However, sometime during the war, the use of MSG in Japanese soldiers' rations was noticed. As the US began winning battles in the Pacific region and capturing prisoners and their rations supplies, they became aware of MSG's ability to make canned food more palatable. But making MSG from seaweed was an expensive process. The US military was in charge of Japan's reconstruction after the war. Again if I recall correctly, after a cheaper method of MSG production was discovered, Ajinomoto was given an exclusive contract by the US Government to produce its MSG in order to aid in this reconstruction effort.. In 1948, a symposium on MSG, presided over by the Chief Quartermaster of the Armed Forces, was held in Chicago for members of the food industry.
Modern commercial MSG is produced by fermentation of starch, sugar beet, sugar cane, or molasses. About 1.5 million metric tons were sold in 2001, with 4% annual growth expected. |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 9:27 am: | |
Coenzyme Q10 May Ward Off Migraine Attacks - Medscape, 4/29/04 - "migraine may be caused by a decrease in mitochondrial energy reserve ... 100 mg of CoQ10 three times a day ... Approximately 48% of those who took CoQ10 had a 50% response rate during the three-month study, while this occurred in about 14% of those taking a placebo"
https://profreg.medscape.com/px/getlogin.do?urlCache=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5tZWRzY2FwZS5jb20vdmlld2FydGljbGUvNDc0ODMxX3ByaW50 |
Carol H
| | Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 6:51 am: | |
Thanks, Tom. It was 1956 when the Japanese finally discovered the new method. I was so shocked when I was watching an old James Bond movie and heard Bond tell someone his mission involved the secrets for making MSG the new way. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 8:44 am: | |
Thanks, Tom...good to educate everyone about the origin of MSG. Many people just think it's a preservative. I was told that the main starches used are corn, wheat, and tapioca.
Carol, I was channel surfing the other day, and happened to stop at that same James Bond movie, and hear him say that about MSG and his mission.
I was so surprised...of course had seen it years ago, and wouldn't have had a clue about what he was talking about.
There's an article in one of the most recent Women's World magazine about substances that trigger our hunger and are making us fat. I read the article, which said flavor enhancers are the culprit....then the only glutamate rich ingredient they listed was yeast extract or isolate.....very disappointing. but at least the word "flavor enhancer" was used. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 7:45 pm: | |
Just received this...not sure what to think...the thought occurred to me that it could be a hoax, but I forwarded it on to Jack Samuels to see if he could give him some contacts. Sure wish I were a scientist with a lab! And I hope this is for real. We need more scientists interested in MSG who want to make a difference.
I'm assuming he is from India???
"Dear Sir,
I am PhD in biochemistry,and my PhD thesis was on MSG, and I published 4 papers in national and international journals, presently working as Lecturer in Govt. Medical College, Amritsar, I want to work with you on MSG in your lab.
Thanking you.
Yours Faithfully,
Dr.K.S.
(I left out his name to protect his privacy) |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 7:06 am: | |
I fowarded his e mail on to Jack Samuels and at his suggestion, requested that this doctor send us copies of his papers. Wish I could hire him to do studies! |
Deb
| | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 6:06 pm: | |
Just found this:What do you want to bet it contains alises for MSG or glutamate???Hydrolyzed protein, autolyzed yeast, perhaps?
"Instant soup launched
CAMPBELL'S soup, a familiar household name, launched the 'instant' version of its three most popular flavours today.
Cream of mushroom, cream of chicken and cream of corn soup can now be prepared in a matter of seconds, simply by pouring the sachet contents into a mug and adding 200ml of boiling water.
The instant soup, targeted at children, is the first savoury breakfast beverage to be launched here.
"Consumers are constantly challenging us to create food products that are not only of notably higher quality, but which also complements their dynamic lifestyles," vice-president, Asia, Campbell Arnott's Asia Pacific, Joseph Folds said.
The new instant soup fulfils all the demands of the discerning consumer without compromising taste and health benefits, as it does not contain the flavour enhancer monosodium glutamate, or MSG.
"We are confident mothers will approve of the new soup as it is fortified with calcium, iron, Vitamins B1, B2 And B3," Head of Marketing, Campbell Soup Southeast Asia Sdn Bhd, Julia Lim said.Campbell's instant soup is sold at major supermarkets, hypermarkets, grocery shops and leading retail outlets at the recommended retail price of RM3.40 (Peninsular Malaysia) and RM3.60 (East Malaysia) per box.
Each box contains three 22gm sachets." |
Deb A. again
| | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 6:10 pm: | |
Note: The 3rd paragraph from the bottom....what is it telling us?...they KNOW that MSG compromises health!!!!! |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 3:11 am: | |
Deb,
The link below underscores that Campbell's instant soups contain no "added" MSG, which is probably an admission that they contain hidden forms of MSG.
http://www.bookworm.com.sg/contest/cont-campbell-2004-07.htm |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 10:06 pm: | |
In First magazine for women this month (yellow cover), there's an article about MSG and the obesity link..excellent. It's about the work of a doctor and researchers at a New York university/hospital???Can't remember the name...my daughter has borrowed my copy or I would be more specific. |
vrtu1
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 3:45 am: | |
For more details on the First magazine article check under the Addresses for Congressman thread on this website's discussion board. |
vrtu1
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 4:03 am: | |
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The following is with reference to HR 3684, the Food Allergen Labeling and Consumer Protection Act of 2003 which Bush just signed to go into effect in 2006. Unfortunately as far as I can tell it does not include reactions to Manufactured Free Glutamic Acid (MSG). Also I sent this to my congressman via the reply tab when responding to an e-mail that was sent to me, however the e-mail was returned as undeliverable, hmmm? So I delivered it in person!
What follows dealt with information from
EnjoyLifeFoods that came from PeanutAllergy.Com.
Food Allergen Labeling & Consumer Protection Act becomes Law:
Millions of Americans Will Be Able to Easily Identify
Safe and Unsafe Foods
August 3, 2004 (New York, NY) The Food Allergy Initiative celebrates a major victory in its public policy campaign as President George W. Bush signed the Food Allergen Labeling and Consumer Protection Act (S. 741) into law last night. The primary mission of the Food Allergy Initiative (FAI) is to support research to find a cure for life-threatening food allergies by 2010. Until a cure is found, FAI is committed to keeping food allergic children healthy and alive by creating safer environments for them. The Food Allergy Initiative led the effort to insure that this bill was passed by Congress and signed by the President so that food-allergic consumers would be able to easily identify a product's ingredients, trust the accuracy of the ingredient statements, and stay healthy and alive.
The only way for someone with food allergies to keep from having a potentially life-threatening allergic reaction is to completely avoid foods that contain the allergens. Food-allergic consumers are forced to decipher labels for every food product they purchase, every time they shop -- a terrifying and dangerous process -- made even more difficult by the technical language used in ingredient statements.
Would you know that albumin refers to egg, caseinate to milk, textured vegetable protein to soy? "Natural flavors" could refer to peanuts, tree nuts, or any other food. A recent study at Mount Sinai School of Medicine demonstrated that after reading a series of labels only 7% of parents of children with milk allergy were able to correctly identify products that contained milk and 22% of parents of children with soy allergy were able to correctly identify products that contain soy.
The new law, effective January 1, 2006, will provide necessary information for school nurses, teachers, caregivers, and chefs who must help millions of food allergic students and restaurant patrons avoid the food allergens. Recent studies estimate that over 11 million Americans have a food allergy. Over six million are allergic to fish and shellfish alone. Over three million are allergic to peanuts and tree nuts and the number of children with peanut allergy has doubled in the past five years. Each year, over 250 Americans die due to the ingestion of allergenic foods, and 30,000 receive life-saving treatment in emergency rooms.
The bill requires food manufacturers to clearly state if a product contains any of the eight major food allergens responsible for over 90% of all allergic reactions; those allergens are milk, eggs, peanuts, tree nuts, fish, shellfish, wheat, and soy. In addition, it requires that the Food and Drug Administration conduct inspections and issue a report within 18 months to ensure that the food manufacturers comply with practices to reduce or eliminate cross-contact of a food with any major food allergens that are not intentional ingredients of the food.
Todd J. Slotkin, Chairman of the Food Allergy Initiative and father of twins with life-threatening food allergies, says that, "Our government established the first line of defense in the prevention of deaths and/or serious illness from food allergic reactions. We thank Congressmen Lowey and Greenwood and Senators Kennedy, Gregg and Frist for the years of hard work and cooperative bipartisan effort that paved the way for this bill. Over eleven million Americans live in fear of eating the wrong food with every bite they take. This bill will enable them to trust that ingredient labels are accurate."
Sarah Gitlin, age thirteen and allergic to peanuts, tree nuts, and fish, explains that she tries "very hard to eat only foods that are safe. If a food might contain anything I'm allergic to, I avoid it. But who would guess that a common popcorn brand would use the words "natural flavors" to mean peanuts? And who would guess that the words "vegetable protein" or "plant protein" would be food companies' code words for tree nuts? Recently, a lollipop manufacturer used the words 'natural flavors.' I assumed that it would be okay because the flavors, fruits and mints, didn't seem to be the type to contain nuts. By pure luck, I noticed that they also had a peanut butter flavored pop, and the "natural favors" were referring to peanuts. Thanks to the Food Allergy Initiative's hard work in ensuring the passage of the Food Allergen Labeling and Consumer Protection Act, I will not have to wonder whether every "natural flavors" is a death sentence."
The bill will also benefit the estimated 2 million Americans with celiac disease. The bill calls for the Food and Drug Administration to issue final regulations defining "gluten-free" and permitting the voluntary labeling of products as "gluten-free" no later than 2008. Celiac disease is an inherited autoimmune disorder that is triggered by eating the protein gluten, which is found in grains, including wheat, rye, and barley.
About the Food Allergy Initiative
The Food Allergy Initiative (FAI) is a New York-based, nonprofit organization dedicated to supporting research to find a cure for life-threatening food allergies. In addition to funding research and clinical activities to identify and treat those at risk, FAI supports public policy initiatives to create a safer environment for those afflicted, and educational programs to heighten awareness among health and child care workers, schools, camps, and members of the hospitality and food service industries about food allergies and the danger of anaphylaxis. For more information, please visit the FAI website at http://www.FoodAllergyInitiative.org or call 212-527-5835.
My e-mail that did not delivered by U.S. internet:
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Nice that they are addressing some of the allergens, but what about labeling for Manufactured Free Glutamic Acid? Hmmm, I don't see it mentioned in the article.
Just because it affects EVERYONE in our nation is no reason to gloss over it. People die and react to MFGA 24/7. Is it getting priority treatment for labeling like the other allergens? According to Adrienne and Jack Samuels, of the Truth in Labeling Campaign, the final Free glutamic acid content of any product (or produce which has been altered or sprayed), should be labeled to the third decimal place so that those who are acutely sensitive have some clue as to just how toxic the product is. Sidestepping this issue by calling reactions (fatal or not) a sensitivity rather than an allergy causes millions to continue to suffer needlessly at the hands of their own government.
"Sensitivity" or "allergic reaction", the trauma is the same for those ingesting MFGA as for those ingesting the other allergens----anaphylaxis, hives, intestinal distress, asthma, death, sinus congestion, etc.
Of course non-labeling of this economic poison (MFGA) can continue by those hard headed and hard hearted enough to believe that any true benefit can come from this; but incorporating this substance into the environment and our bodies is so wrong, that it has to rank way up there on the biggest mistake list of all time--- as time itself will clearly show.
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PhyllisCh
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 5:34 am: | |
I am so glad to hear about the article in First Magazine. I just purchased First, but unfortunately, I didn't realize that it is the September issue. They don't seem to carry the August edition where I live. I am going to the doctor tomorrow, and I was hoping that I could have that article to show them. Is there any way someone could post the article, or is there a link to a website that might have it. Would really appreciate something that I can show my doctor in black and white.
Thank you.
Phyllis |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 6:39 pm: | |
Phyllis,
I couldn't find the article you requested, but if you click on the link below and scroll all the way down to the last diagram you may find something you can use.
http://www.medbio.info/Horn/Time%203-4/secretion_of_insulin_and_glucagon.htm |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 6:44 pm: | |
Phyllis,
If you click on the link below and scroll all the way down, the last diagram shows the effect of dietary glutamate on insulin release.
http://www.medbio.info/Horn/Time%203-4/secretion_of_insulin_and_glucagon.htm |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 6:49 pm: | |
Phyllis,
If you click on the link below and scroll down to the last diagram, you will see it showing dietary glutamate triggering insulin release.
http://www.medbio.info/Horn/Time%203-4/secretion_of_insulin_and_glucagon.htm |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 7:00 pm: | |
Try the link below:
http://www.medbio.info/Horn/Time%203-4/secretion_of_insulin_and_glucagon.htm |
PhyllisCh
| | Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 6:46 pm: | |
Thank you for the link. I printed it out and will keep it so that I can make all of my doctors aware.
Phyllis |
Jane
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 4:41 am: | |
Pressure is being exerted on the food industry regarding childhood obesity. Read this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/01/health/01obese.html |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 7:45 am: | |
Thanks for posting that link. I hope this child obesity problem causes more scientific studies to start. Maybe, with some luck, they will see what MSG is doing. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 2:50 pm: | |
Movie is a must see.
My son-in-law brought over a copy of "Super-size Me". This guy eats nothing but McDonalds' meals for 30 days. Not only does he gain 30 pounds which surprises all his doctors, but he develops all sorts of "mysterious" symptoms...not to mention high cholesterol and an addiction to the foods that are making him fat and sick. He was at the peak of health when he began his experiment. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 10:22 am: | |
Note that the chicken items and breakfast items (sausage products) from McD's contain the most MSG. The Big Macs don't contain straight MSG. I found the fact that the skinny guy in the movie only eats the Big Macs VERY interesting. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 10:27 am: | |
McD's items containing MSG labeled as monosodium glutamate:
Grilled Chicken Filet
Hot and Spicy Chicken Patty
Grilled Chicken Ceasar Salad
Grilled Chicken California Cobb Salad
Seasoned Beef
Sausage Scrambled Egg Mix, Sausage, and Sausage Patty
NOTE: This list does not include items that have MSG-containing soy sauce, natural flavors or hydrolyzed protein which can contain up to 20% free glutamic acid - the business end of MSG. |
Jude
| | Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 9:36 pm: | |
I was crushed when McDonald's fries suddenly started making me sick several years ago. It was the last fast food item I could eat and out of the blue, it made me sick. I got nowhere speaking with the company who insisted they only used vegetable oil. Then we all found out what happened there, they were using beef flavoring during processing. We have become the mine canaries of the food industry. McDonald's "miniscule" amount of flavoring was more than enough to make me sick. Maybe their definition of "minscule" is super-sized, too! |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 9:05 am: | |
In the out takes on the CD, there's one where he puts hamburgers and fries from McDonald's in different glass jars, along with traditional fries and hamburgers made from scratch. Weeks go by and the Mac fries look the same! Of course the scratch ones were the worst. |
Jude
| | Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 12:12 pm: | |
LOL! So will everyone else end up "well-preserved" because of their chemical-infused diet? Then what happens to us? I would hate to end up looking like the dregs of those homemade hamburgers! Of course there are plenty of days I wake up *feeling* like that... |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 1:52 pm: | |
Beware of Breyer's icecream.
I just found this on Jack Samuel's site:
"Label changes signal that Breyers ice cream flavors we had thought to be MSG-free in the past may no longer be free of MSG."
For years, the Truth and Labeling Campaign has received reports from readers of our Web site who have had MSG-reactions from ice cream that contained "carrageenan." We recommended to these people that they use Breyers natural ice cream that is packaged in a black box, limiting their selections to vanilla, strawberry and peach. We also indicated that most people were able to tolerate Hagan Daaz vanilla and strawberry ice creams.
Recently, Good Humor-Breyers, producer of Breyers ice creams, eliminated "vanilla" from their list of ingredients and replaced it with "natural flavors."
We suspect that Good Humor-Breyers replaced "vanilla" with "vanillin" in order to save a little money, but even if they are now using "vanillin," an apparently safe ingredient for MSG-sensitive people, the term "natural flavor" is a suspect term for MSG-sensitive people and, in more cases than not includes some processed free glutamic acid (MSG). The content of "natural flavor" can change at any time without notice since congress has declared flavors and flavorings to be proprietary, and do not require disclosure by food companies.
Because of concerns of MSG-sensitive people, we contacted Good Humor-Breyers in early June to voice our concerns regarding their change in ingredients and to explain that we no longer could recommend Breyers ice creams to readers of our Web site. We also pointed out that most MSG-sensitive people would not use a product that included "natural flavors."
I was assured by the representative of Good Humor-Breyers to whom I spoke that I would be contacted by someone to discuss the issue and to, at least, assure me that the Breyers product remained safe for MSG-sensitive people. To this date, we have received no call from Breyers.
I can no longer recommend that MSG-sensitive people use Breyers ice creams. I believe that all MSG-sensitive people should contact Good Humor-Breyers and express their disappointment that the company has demonstrated their lack of concern for consumers who are MSG-sensitive, a group, which based on peer reviewed studies numbers more than 25% of the population.
You may contact Good Humor-Breyers by E-mail, Snail mail, or by telephone:
E-mail: http://www.icecreamusa.com/talk/breypack.asp
Snail mail
Good Humor-Breyers Ice Cream
Attn: Consumer Response
P.O. Box 19007
Green Bay, WI 54307-9007
Phone: (920) 499-5151" |
Carol H
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 11:02 am: | |
Find a safe cream, and a safe milk, and make your own. I started to make my own this year. Ice cream makers are now very inexpensive - and easy to operate. Once you taste your own, you won't want the store bought stuff. You don't even have to cook it. Just watch your intake - it can really pack on the pounds. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 3:16 pm: | |
My daughter-in-law makes hers that way, and she once made it with organic whole milk, sugar and vanilla....ice milk...delicious! You can cook some milk with egg yolk for a richer base. |
Laurie M
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 9:47 pm: | |
I make my own too but for really special occasion try Double Rainbow's French Vanilla. It is from San Francisco. Only five ingredients. It is the only commercial ice cream i have ever been able to eat. It tastes awesome! Trader Joes carries it sometimes. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 8:29 am: | |
Got a great book yesterday. Vice Cream by Jeff Rogers. Milk and cream aren't the only choices. The recipes in this book are dairy-free. The ingredients are mainly nut milks, dates and maple syrup, and fruits or flavors. Incredibly simple. I am going to try a batch today and tell you how it turned out. Many of us handle almonds ok and many of the recipes use them or cashews and hazelnuts. You can even use that juicer of yours, Jerry, to make the nut milks. There are now some appliances out there to make your own rice milks, seed milks and nut milks with. The cheaper ones (cheaper than juicers) are touted for making soy milks, but they can do other things too. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 6:53 am: | |
Carol, please let us kow how the recipes are, okay? I haven't tried almond or cashew milk, but I have heard that they are good. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2004 - 11:27 am: | |
The cashew milk ice cream tasted amazing. I made the recipe with just cashews, water, a vanilla bean, and maple syrup. Oh my. It was really good. I mixed it in the blender so it was a little gritty, but when frozen, the texture made it more interesting. Excellent flavor. I want to buy a soy milk maker to blend nut milks better with less fuss and to make smooth "vice creams" too. Apparently there is a maker called soyquick which makes rice milks, nut milks and soy milks, from scratch in a short time. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2004 - 2:48 pm: | |
Let us know where this maching can be found. I would really like your recipe for cashew milk ice cream.
Does anyone know about the sweetener, Xylitol? It's supposed to be one of the "healthiest" ones available, but it is pricey.
Merry Christmas, everyone! Stay well and safe! |
Carol H
| | Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 5:52 am: | |
http://www.soymilkquick.com A lot of websites also sell it. I haven't seen it for less than $99. - which is the official site. If you already have a juicer, you want to see if that works instead. The thing about this maker is that it can cook the milk also - necessary for soy. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 9:54 pm: | |
Thanks, Carol. Please let us know if you get one and how you like it. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 6:58 pm: | |
Safer pork?
All Press Releases for January 31, 2005
Calumet Strives for Healthy Pork
Calumet Diversified Meats is now one of a small number of 100% allergen and MSG free plants in the pork industry.
Pleasant Prairie, WI (PRWEB) January 31, 2005 -- Calumet Diversified Meats is now one of a small number of 100% allergen and MSG (Monosodium Glutamate) free plants in the pork industry. In a continued effort to become the safest pork manufacturer in the industry, Calumet has said good bye to food allergens and MSG. Calumet is now working with spice and seasoning companies to bring allergen free, flavored and unflavored marinades into the plant.
“Just the other day, I read about a teenager’s death in Concord that was caused from the food allergen peanuts. It is terribly upsetting when you hear stories like this, I hope we can be a part of preventing the growing number of deaths caused by food allergens each year,” stated Jerry Klein, President of Calumet Diversified Meats.
Approximately 11 million Americans suffer from food allergies, with over 30,000 being hospitalized each year and 200 dying from food allergy-related reactions. Although there is no cure, by companies such as Calumet taking a step in the right direction, it may save another life.
A food allergy is an immune system response to a food that the body mistakenly believes is harmful. Individuals can be allergic to anything, but 90% of all food-allergic reactions occur from eight foods: milk, egg, peanut, tree nut, fish, shellfish, soy and wheat. For more information on food allergies, please visit www.foodallergy.org.
Unlike food allergies, which affect only certain individuals and involve a specific response of the immune system, food sensitivities affect many more people. MSG is used widely as a flavor enhancer. Yet MSG sensitivity has commonly been described as headache, flushed appearance, tingling, weakness, and stomach ache. After eating meals prepared with MSG, people with MSG sensitivity may have any of these symptoms.
“We truly believe that using allergens or MSG is not necessary in our marinades and that working with these spice and seasoning companies we will develop a healthier pork injection,” said Larry Becker, Executive Vice President, Calumet Diversified Meats.
About Calumet Diversified Meats Inc.
Calumet Diversified Meats Inc., based in Pleasant Prairie, Wisconsin is a leading processor of pork products with over 30 years of experience in the meat packing industry. Calumet’s management team of men and women are the key players in this fast-paced business. Their talent, coupled with technology, has generated a level of innovation that is unsurpassed in the meat industry. From raw material to finished product, Calumet’s production team is helping it’s customers to create an eye-pleasing menu item to keep their customers returning again and again. For more information, please visit www.porkchops.com.
For more information, contact:
Joy Huskey, National Accounts Manager
E-Mail: e-mail protected from spam bots
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Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 9:29 pm: | |
I certainly hope this company is aware of the hidden forms of MSG. Instead of MSG, they could use such things as hydrolyzed protein, calcium caseinate, whey protein, dextrose, autolyzed yeast, etc. Anyone want to email them???...more than one person would be great! |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 1:39 am: | |
Deb,
The lemon juice concentrate they inject into their pork probably has sulfites in it. Per their web site:
*Any item identified with an asterisk signifies that the product can be injected. Basically, this is a moisture adding process whereby the product is injected with a solution consisting of tripolyphosphate, lemon juice concentrate, less than 1% salt (sodium), and water. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 1:32 pm: | |
I don't like the sound of that tripolyphosphate, either, Roy. I know that I have reacted to seafood treated with pyrophosphates before....just like a sulfite reaction. Need to learn more about that additive, I guess! Thanks for sleuthing for us again. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 1:24 pm: | |
Unfortunately, phosphates = extra fluid in the digestive tract (translated - diarrhea). |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 3:08 pm: | |
Thanks for that insight, Carol. The accompanying pain and gas is terrible. Avoid phosphates and sulfites! |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 4:30 pm: | |
Challenge for anyone here to take on. I got this email today and thought I should post it here to see if anyone wants to respond to the WiKi site. I will try to get to it, but my plate is very full this week. Will post more information. Here is the email:
"The Wiki CookBook has an entry on MSG that is very misleading. It needs to be edited, but I don't really have the expertise to do so. Maybe you can balance the entry:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:MSG" |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 4:32 pm: | |
More information:
Perhaps you are not familiar with the open source wiki project. Wiki's are open documents, freely editable by anyone on the net. Sounds crazy at first I know, but Wikipedia, the longest running Wiki I know of, is quickly becoming the most authoritative encyclopedia online. You can check it out here: http://www.wikipedia.org/
I just noticed a longer article about MSG on Wikipedia with some of the same inaccuracies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate
When you visit the link, look near the top for the discussion tab. Click the tab and you can enter into discussion with the people who are working on the page. Then, register, get you user name, read the guidelines, and you can edit the page. You will learn that you have to do it respectfully, working with the others, but if you stick to your guns you can work out a compromise.
It may sound like a lot of work, but I think its worth it. Increasingly, people are turning to Wikipedia when they have questions, specifically because the info there tends to reflect the different angles of an issue. Then you can also include the link to your site at the bottom of the page.
Wikibooks, is a smaller, newer project. That's where I found the first entry in question. Wikibooks works the same way as Wikipedia. Look for the discussion and edit tabs near the top.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:MSG
I hope you'll take this on!! |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 4:02 pm: | |
I want to share this with you. Betty Martini is an anti- excitotoxin activist. She sent this to me recently to let me know how she responded to someone she felt needed some facts. I will delete the name of this person out of respect. I felt it was full of good information for all of us concerning Aspartame. The doctor Roberts in her email still crusades against MSG and aspartame and is a true hero. He is quoted in our book. Someone recently called him (and other activists) a wimp basically for not doing or saying more about the excitotoxin issue.
Dear....,
I want to give you some information about your post. I know you mean well, but if you remember we had this discussion a long time ago. It seemed like every time I put a report on the list regardless of what physician wrote it, you would pick on it, but still it had to be answered. The ones to pick on are the manufacturers, the front groups, the industry funded professional groups and the FDA, not the heros. Perhaps if I give you some information on the history it will help you to understand.
First of all, you say, "when the prime doctors and scientists can't even state the simple truth to the public without egotistical and complicated psychobabble." Neither Dr. Roberts or any of the other hero physicians speaking out on the aspartame issue are egotistical or use psychobabble. Dr. Roberts not only has never been egotistical but is corporate neutral, has never taken money as a grant, and speaks out at his own expense. Perhaps you don't understand medical terminology. Remember that physicians write for medical magazines, journals and such and are writing to other physicians who expect medical terminology. On the other hand, Dr. Roberts has also written books especially for the lay public like his first book on aspartame in l989, Aspartame (NutraSweet) Is It Safe?, Charles Press. As I recall, he never even got paid for it. The problem is that it is very difficult to get any article on aspartame in a medical journal because the manufacturer has used their power there too. At one time even Dr. Robert Moser who defends Nutrasweet was Editor of the Journal of the American Medical Society. So he wrote a book to alert the public and a medical journal wrote against it. Yet the book went on to save countless lives. Gwen Allen (now married) thought she was dying. Someone told her to read Dr. Roberts book and it saved her life. She went on to be interviewed on TV, and has been Mission Possible West Palm Beach ever since. Dr. Roberts often writes for the Townsend Letter for Doctors which goes to physicians and other organizations, as well as the consumer public in the US, Canada, Mexico and Europe, as far as I know. They will publish when medical journals will not. Your statement is completely unfounded. You say your page communicates the same truth, however much more of it and in much more understandable words. Don, Dr. Roberts has been writing about these problems for decades, giving lectures, on radio, etc. and battling the aspartame issue. You can't begin to compare.
Dr. Roberts said in his paper "I subsequently found myself involved as a majority-of-one in a more glaring "civil inaction" emanating from the trenches of my medical practice: the ignored epidemic of aspartame disease." You said: " Why was Dr. Roberts alone in this battle? Where are Doctors Olney, Dr.Blaylock, Jack Samuels and hundreds of other scientists and doctors who have done studies revealing evidence of toxicity? Dr. Roberts, Have you been attempting to work with the others? Have you all really tried to get together?-----
This statement is just completely nonsensical. Are you aware that it is Dr. Roberts who is the one who first told many physicians in this country about aspartame? He had dinner one night with Dr. Robert Atkins, the reason he called me about writing a note to the subscribers of his news letter, which at that time was about 50,000. The newsletter was excellent but those 50 thousand would never have found out about aspartame had it not been that Dr. Atkins found out about aspartame from Dr. Roberts. Dr. Roberts was the very first to write a journal article on aspartame and brain tumors. It is on www.dorway.com Dr. Blaylock writes about him on page 214 of Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills. (www.russellblaylockmd.com) Dr. Richard Sabates in Hialeah, Florida now knows about aspartame because of Dr. Roberts. He was drinking diet pop himself and could not understand why he had so much joint pain. Even as an MD he went from physician to physician until he finally went to the Mayo Clinic where they told him - "nothing"! After reading one of Dr. Roberts reports he got off aspartame and wrote a book himself, the first chapter basically thanking Dr. Roberts for saving his life.
And you say, has he attempted to work with others?! Dr. Roberts has been spreading his material to physicians on aspartame and other poisons for decades. He even had dinner with President Clinton and gave him some of his books in an effort to stop him from drinking diet pop. Who do you think was one of the first physicians who trained me about aspartame? Dr. Roberts! Where was Dr. Olney? He was at Washington University in St. Louis. Dr. Olney who founded the field of neuroscience called excitotoxicity after doing research on aspartic acid in l970, attempted to prevent approval of aspartame, along with Attorney James Turner. Dr. Olney is a researcher but he doesn't practice medicine as Dr. Roberts did for over 50 years. Dr. Olney is one of the most renowned neuroscientists on the planet, however, and has alerted the world about aspartame. So many have learned from Dr. Roberts that many say Aspartame Disease should be called Roberts Disease. He is so brilliant he graduated medical school cum laude when he was only 23. In l958 he published Difficult Diagnosis: A Guide to the Interpretation of Obscure Illness (W. B. Saunders Company), and 160,000 physicians used it to take their Boards. He was only about 34. He was selected as the Best Doctor in the United States in l981. He's in Who's Who in America, Who's Who in Frontier Science and Technology and Who's Who in The South and Southwest. His CV just goes on and on and he was even knighted for his humanitarianism.
And, of course, all these doctors share. Every time something is published on aspartame the physicians who expose it like Blaylock,Olney, Walton, Bowen and others see it, and use it in their writings. Many excellent physicians and scientists spoke out in Congressional hearings - three hearings. Dr. Richard Wurtman was a tiger and left a paper trail on aspartame and phenylalanine, for instance, seizures, etc. Where is he today? He's still at MIT but he no longer speaks out about aspartame. He was even threatened by the VP of Searle(producers of Nutrasweet then) that if he did studies on aspartame and seizures his research funds would be rejected and they were. MIT now gets research funds but Dr. Wurtman no longer speaks out on aspartame as did others.
Dr. Roberts said in this paper, "For two decades, I have urged the FDA and Congress to limit or halt the sale of aspartame products as an "imminent public health hazard." This assertion is based on the numerous severe reactions experienced by my patients and many correspondents. (My database now exceeds 1300 aspartame reactors!) You replied, "-----This narrow-minded communication is what keeps anyone from hearing us. "MY patients and correspondents...MY 1300 reactors? Do we not know of a hundred more times that number of stories from sufferers? Do we not know that millions are being tortured, that thousands upon thousands are dead from aspartame alone?-------------"
I couldn't believe you wrote such a thing and put it out to so many people. Narrow minded communication?!! Dr. Roberts can only write about his cases or ones he knows about. He can't write about other doctors cases. Most physicians don't even know about aspartame and don't even know there are aspartame cases. No doubt since aspartame is used by 70% of the population other physicians have these many cases as well but don't know they are cases. I have sent thousands of cases to the FDA but they are not even reported. And they lie and they tell reporters, as one case, there were "16" cases in a year. I replied to the reporter I had 16 cases too - before lunch. Dr. Kessler wrote in JAMA that only 1% report serious problems to the FDA. I wish I could get every member of an aspartame support group to file a report with the FDA so its there, although they won't report them all. It was mentioned in congressional hearings that the FDA was getting so many case histories on aspartame that they started referring them to the AIDS Hotline. One report some years ago said even Searle in the beginning got 100,000 complaints on their hotline. But Dr. Roberts was writing about "his" cases, not cases others had. Interestingly,in l995 the FDA did report 10,000 cases although Richard Wilson told me his wife, Joyce, who died from aspartame, had 10,000 cases on her hotline during the early years. I can only write about the cases I know about, even though I know Mission Possible operations take these cases in other states and other countries. Nobody escapes aspartame, many just don't know to correlate the problems it causes. Do we know that millions are being tortured and thousands upon thousands are dead from aspartame alone? We can surmise considering aspartame triggers horrible symptoms and fatal diseases and tumors that no doubt hundreds of thousands or even millions are dead from it. Since it is an abortifacient we can surmise millions of babies are murdered in their mother's womb. And we can say it like that but if we are writing about the ones we know, that's all we can write about. When a doctor talks about 1300 cases he knows about it's obvious other physicians are at least seeing that many. Why pick on a statement like this.
You say regulatory incompetence is not the case with our protective agencies. I beg to differ but it is. Ask Arthur Evangelista who worked for the FDA. But yes, the FDA in particular is indeed the handmaiden of the pharmaceutical and chemical industry and as Richard Horton, editor for Lancet, stated, takes money from industry endangering the lives of the people. It's not one or the other, its both.
Dr. Ralph Walton wrote a brilliant paper on scientific peer reviewed studies and funding showing only industry funded and controlled research on aspartame ever said it was safe but 92% of independent scientific peer reviewed studies all showed the problems. Further if you eliminated on pro-industry summary and 6 studies the FDA had their hands in, its 100%. It's impossible to take a poison like aspartame and show it to be safe. But you can't stop industry from bribing researchers and others to give them power. In a perfect world all studies would be independent and unbiased, and aspartame would never have been approved. We do not live in a perfect world.
And as to crimes regulatory agencies like FDA serve above the law and nobody does anything about it. Example, the law requires that if a citizen writes a citizen petition for ban like I did almost three years ago, the FDA must respond in 180 days. They refuse. Why? Because its not based on safety, its based on the fact they lie to the public, and they know the government records show they lie and it can be proven so they wrote me and said they have more important things to do than answer this petition. Nobody will enforce the law. Industry has a checkbook with no bottom. There is only one thing industry can't fight, and that's consumer power in action. That's what Mission Possible International is all about. And the purpose is to save lives. My favorite quote is "Teamwork is the fuel that allows common people to accomplish uncommon results". That is so true, and why I started operations in every state and over 25 countries of the world. Some people are good at writing, some are good at protesting, and some are networkers, but together we have a global volunteer force working free to warn the public not to consumer a deadly neurotoxin. And incredible things have happened because of incredible people working as a team all over the world. Many doctors and scientists sold out. Some have been persecuted like Dr. James Bowen who refused to stop speaking out on aspartame. But the doctors and scientists whose reports are on the web sites, http://www.dorway.com, http://www.wnho.net, http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame, etc. and who have written books to warn the world are the ones who wouldn't sell out and continue day after day after day to educate the world. Doctors like H. J. Roberts, M.D., are the heros, champions, brave and courageous, humanitarians working for the good of mankind at their expense.
I like this comment, "Our goal should be to get our protective agencies to honor independent science and medicine. This will require restructuring of them. We should be fighting for this purpose." It sounds great but how could it happen? I visited the European Union in Brussels when they investigated aspartame. I brought the "flawed" research of the manufacturer which told had they fixed the studies. And I brought them the independent damaging research on aspartame. They left out the damaging research and used the flawed research - on purpose. They had industry people on their committee. They didn't even look at their own research. It was as if they were making it up as they went along. When too much damaging information gets out on aspartame they simply try to calm down the public by saying they will investigate so they can come back and lie and say everything is wonderful. That's the way it is done.
Now you're against lawsuits. The FDA said not to approve aspartame for 16 years, and then Rumsfeld said he would call in his markers and get it approved. President Reagan was so afraid the FDA might do something before he could get Arthur Hayes there to get it approved he actually write an executive order making the current FDA Commissioner powerless. So even the FDA could not stop the approval of aspartame with full knowledge that it is a chemical poison. Then with outrage from the public being poisoned Senator Metzenbaum tried for "years" to get congressional hearings. I have the press release from Senator Orrin Hatch saying "Hatch says no to congressional hearings on aspartame". Even when Senator Metzenbaum got them Monsanto paid Hatch and others. So three congressional hearings with scientists and physicians like Dr. Roberts speaking out, accomplished absolutely nothing. And the bill that would have required NIH to do independent studies on the problems being seen in the population from aspartame never got out of committee. Citizen's petitions over the years to ban aspartame have been refused by the FDA. Nobody has sat back waiting for the lawsuits. Physicians and scientists, activists and victims have been warning the public since aspartame was approved. Nothing has worked except alerting the public and saving lives which is paramount, because of the activism. And when the FDA does something which we know is manipulation nothing happens. As an example, in order to grant blanket approval of aspartame which was done in l996 the FDA had to show a reduction in aspartame complaints. I wondered how they expected to do that because while they could stop taking complaints, and did, how would they reduce what they already had? Would you believe the FDA actually wrote a note stating they had to change their bookkeeping system which required throwing away aspartame complaints!
I know you want everybody to march on Washington. It would be nice. But I've set up a conference before and know what it takes just to do that. And we tried to keep any expense off the people coming so that we provided healthy food and a place to stay. I got a grand conference room without expense. When you march on Washington you have to pay fees to the city, provide facilities and figure out how to get thousands and thousands of people to do that. Many aspartame victims are disabled, unemployed and couldn't do it.
Today we have some courageous attorneys who are now taking case histories to start litigation having to do with aspartame, but starting only with brain tumors. But will spread all over the country and it will hit main stream media when that happens. Dr. Olney made world news in l996 on the aspartame/brain tumor association.
Nothing else has been successful in removing aspartame from the marketplace. Now we have attorneys who are willing to take over the battle and attempt to get it off the market.
And back to Dr. Roberts, currently he has a series of lectures on aspartame and other things. Are you aware he is still doing this at the age of 80. What a trooper!
So please use your energy to pick on the manufacturers of this poison, the front groups, lobbyists and poison peddlers, the industry funded professional organizations and all those who lie about this toxin causing disability and death. Don't ever write comments against this fearless, intrepid warrior who has warned the world about aspartame, alerted physicians and scientists everywhere, and even in his golden years still lecturing and speaking out to save our lives.
Betty" |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 4:12 pm: | |
Sorry the last post was so long...but it was a good reminder of the responsibility we must all share. I hope that there continues to be people who provoke us and who inspire us in this work. I hope that people with fire will try to march in Washington, if that is something they think is attainable and effective. We need people willing to take chances and make changes..I get calls from people myself, chastising me for not getting MSG out of our food. Betty's letter shows what we are up against. I am no different than anyone else here...I started my journey in consumer advocacy by first getting sick like you. We all have different talents. I write, talk to people, and network. We can all do something. Every time we dare to open our mouth, or read more about MSG and aspartame, we are increasing our knowledge and helping to spread the word and save more hurting people. We're all here for a little while...so please do what you can whenever you can. Thanks! |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 12:21 pm: | |
SENOMYX!!! These are from today’s NY Times Business section had an article on this entitled, “Sugar and Spice and Biochemistry --- Food Companies Test Flavorings That Can Trick The Taste Buds” --- Several big food and beverage companies are looking at a new ingredient in the battle for health-conscious consumers: a chemical that tricks the taste buds into sensing sugar or salt even when it is not there. Kraft Foods, Nestlé, Coca-Cola and Campbell Soup are all working with a biotechnology company called Senomyx, which has developed several chemicals, most of which do not have any flavor of their own but instead work by activating or blocking receptors in the mouth that are responsible for taste. They can enhance or replicate the taste of sugar, salt and monosodium glutamate, or MSG, in foods. By adding one of Senomyx's flavorings to their products, manufacturers can, for instance, reduce the sugar in a cookie or salt in a can of soup by one-third to one-half while retaining the same sweetness or saltiness. Now, for instance, a 10 3/4-ounce can of Campbell's Home-style chicken soup, which the company says contains two and a half servings, has more than 2,300 milligrams of sodium. That would probably be cut to a little over 1,500 milligrams when the chemical is added. (The government recommends consumption of no more than 2,400 milligrams of sodium a day.) Unlike artificial sweeteners, Senomyx's chemical compounds will not be listed separately on ingredient labels. Instead, they will be lumped into a broad category - "artificial flavors" - already found on most packaged food labels. "We're helping companies clean up their labels," said Senomyx's chief executive, Kent Snyder. Senomyx, based in San Diego, uses many of the same research techniques that biotechnology companies apply in devising new drugs. Executives say that a taste receptor or family of receptors on the tongue or in the mouth are responsible for recognizing a taste. Using the human genome sequence, the company says, it has identified hundreds of those taste receptors. Its chemical compounds activate the receptors in a way that accentuates the taste of sugar or salt. It is still experimenting to determine the most potent compounds, its chief scientist, Mark Zoller, said. While food safety experts applaud efforts to reduce salt, MSG and sugar, they expressed concerns about the new chemicals, saying that more testing needed to be done before these were sold in food.But Senomyx maintains that its new products are safe because they will be used in tiny quantities. Kraft, Nestlé, Coca-Cola and Campbell Soup have contracted with Senomyx for exclusive rights to use the ingredients in certain types of food and beverages, although the companies declined to identify those categories.Elise Wang, an analyst at Smith Barney, said that Kraft was planning to use Senomyx's sweet flavoring to reduce the sugar in powdered beverages like Kool-Aid by one-third. Campbell Soup, she said, is looking at cutting sodium levels by a third with the salt flavoring. "There's applicability for our soups, sauces and drinks like V8," a spokesman for Campbell, John Faulkner, said. A Kraft spokesman declined to offer specifics on the company's relationship with Senomyx, but said that Kraft was committed to reducing the sugar and salt levels in many products. Nestlé and Coke also declined to comment. Senomyx's salt enhancer, in particular, has the potential to be a boon to the food industry. For years, corporate scientists have been looking in vain for ways to reduce sodium levels in packaged food without losing flavor.
"It's a real challenge," said Christine M. Homsey, senior research food scientist at Food Perspectives, a consulting firm in Plymouth, Minn. "Nobody's come up with anything even close to ideal." The Center for Science in the Public Interest, an advocacy group based in Washington, is seeking to get the Food and Drug Administration to pay more attention to the high sodium levels in packaged foods. In February, it filed a lawsuit seeking to force the F.D.A. to regulate salt as a food additive. The effort, if successful, could spur companies to limit salt in their products. Mr. Synder said that Senomyx's salt enhancers were still in the development phase and would not appear in foods for at least two years. The company's most advanced product, he said, is its replacement for MSG, which last month received safety approval from the Flavor and Extract Manufacturers Association. He expects food items with this product to appear in supermarkets sometime in the first half of next year. While doctors and consumers have recognized the dangers of too much salt and sugar, MSG is not as well understood as a potentially harmful food additive. Used as a flavor enhancer, it is found in flavored chips, sauces, dry soups and meat products. According to Sara Risch, a food scientist and professor at Michigan State University, food companies are eager to find replacements for MSG because some people are allergic to high levels of it. "There's a negative consumer perception held by some people regarding MSG," said Mr. Snyder, who came out of retirement in 2003 to become Senomyx's chief executive. "Some school districts, for instance, won't sell MSG-containing snacks." In the 1970's, after it was shown to induce brain lesions and nervous system disorders in laboratory animals, baby food manufacturers removed it from their products. Mr. Zoller, the company's chief scientist, said the replacement for MSG could also be used in place of common flavor enhancers like hydrolyzed vegetable protein and autolyzed yeast extract. These ingredients have been closely linked to MSG because they contain high levels of glutamic acid, the main component of MSG. Since Senomyx's flavor compounds will be used in small proportions (less than one part per million), the company is able to bypass the lengthy F.D.A. approval process required to get food additives on the market. Getting the Flavor and Extract Manufacturers Association status of generally recognized as safe, or GRAS, took Senomyx less than 18 months, including a 3-month safety study using rats. In contrast, the maker of the artificial sweetener sucralose spent 11 years winning F.D.A. approval and is required to list the ingredient on food labels. Michael Jacobson, executive director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, endorsed Senomyx's ability to reduce salt, sugar and MSG, but cautioned against a new chemical entering the food supply without rigorous testing. "A three-month study is completely inadequate," he said. "What you want is at least a two-year study on several species of animals." Senomyx responded that in contrast to artificial sweeteners, which are used at levels of 200 to 500 parts per million, its flavorings would be added in such small quantities that they would pose no safety risk. These low-use levels are also what allow Senomyx's chemicals to be classified as artificial flavors. According to filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Kraft Foods, Nestlé, Coca-Cola and Campbell Soup have collectively paid Senomyx $30 million to finance research and development. When the flavorings are incorporated into foods, Senomyx has said it will collect royalties of 1 percent to 4 percent of a product's sales. Although the company is several years away from turning a profit, its stock price has nearly doubled since it went public last June, closing yesterday at $11.91. Last fiscal year, Senomyx lost $19.7 million on research revenue of $8.3 million. Ms. Wang of Smith Barney has projected that royalties from food product sales will be $50 million in 2008. |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 12:26 pm: | |
Oops. Meant to start off with: From today’s NY Times Business section --- article entitled, “Sugar and Spice and Biochemistry --- Food Companies Test Flavorings That Can Trick The Taste Buds": |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 1:28 pm: | |
MEMorris, a few minutes ago, I got finished posting the exact same article...in full length instead of a link, like you just did....although I hadn't checked today's postings and didn't realize that you had done it already. Anyway, I forgot to click on the pre-check to finalize the post, so when I went to check the other postings, found that my post had been lost...but was happily surprised to see yours there instead! Anyway, this tells me something we have suspected. The food industry and the FDA have been very much aware of the dangers of MSG and aspartame and are terrified of the possible public scandal brewing. The food industry has been pouring millions into developing some substitute for both of them. Now I'm wondering what can of worms this new product is going to open for us. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 6:19 pm: | |
Carol, do you think this is that same stuff we read about last week or so? A new glutamate rich flavor enhancer made from hydrolyzed wheat was announced. It, too, claimed not to have as much sodium as MSG, but more glutamate.
I can just imagine, after reading about the one MEMorris posted, a group from the FDA meeting with food industry reps and telling them something like, "You guys better get your act together...we can't stem the tide of MSG and aspartame complaints forever...better get your best scientific heads together and formulate some safer substitute for them. If you don't, you're going to see such a scandal, the tobacco stink will smell like perfume in comparison. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 9:35 pm: | |
Deb, I have to look into this. Some companies want to reduce sodium based on flawed conclusions from salt-hypertension studies where they did not account for the vasoconstrictive properties of the amino acid flavour enhancers added to salty processed foods. Glutamate, which I firmly believe is more responsible for high blood pressure than sodium is - some don't care about, but there are a few who want to avoid having MSG on the label. However, they are going for cheapening our food further. I used to speak of "unfood" when they take food and make "unfood" out of it by processing it too much. This is worse. It will be "virtual food". It will be lacking in nutrients and substance - but we will "percieve" it as tasting like there is something there. I got problems with that. They are already doing it with aspartame - even in things not labeled diet. If they can add aspartame in 1/200 of the amount of sugar but you "percieve" the sugar as being there (See C2 Cokes new entry on the market - the "regular" soda with half the sugar. Look on the label. Aspartame is there. It's not just in diet sodas anymore). Years ago, things like adding corn syrup to soda instead of cane sugar were considered adulteration. Not anymore. Fake fat, fake carbs are the norm lately. The problem I see with this new stuff and our approach to it should be based on the fact that they are targeting US, not the actual FOOD. They are targeting our receptors - like drugs do. The amygdala in the brain is involved with taste perception - it is also a part of the brain damaged by MSG and glutamic acid. Lately it has been linked to autism because the amygdala, when overstimulated may result in the behaviors of autism such as avoiding the gaze of others, because faces of even loved ones are perceived as threatening. Perception. The food companies are targeting our perception. I find that disturbing. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 4:19 am: | |
Senomyx is targeting our genetics:
http://www.biospace.com/news_story.cfm?StoryID=5208604&full=1 |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 4:49 am: | |
Their CFO is from Pfizer drug company, and I consider these chemicals drugs that could be dangerous if overused. What constitutes overuse may depend on the user. If they mask the taste and smell of spoilage they could also increase the risk of food poisoning.
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=127189&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=577302&highlight= |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:17 am: | |
This should be interesting as more information unfolds. Thanks for the links, Roy! |
Lisa Marie
| | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 11:21 am: | |
More about it:
http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/news/news-NG.asp?n=58526-senomyx-s-msg
And from this article:
http://library.thinkquest.org/C0111983/consumer_products.html
It's part of a new discipline that might be called "consumer genetics." There are plans to create seasonings to make vegetables tastier to young children by blocking specific tastes that overwhelm their palates.
Zuker expressed excitement about the potential of the field. "I hate drinking diet soda," he said, welcoming the prospect of an additive that could block the aftertaste of artificial sweeteners. But he also noted that many foods and drinks are very complicated mixtures of chemicals that scientists won't be able to emulate with artificial ingredients anytime soon.
This is absolutely horrifying. |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 10:56 am: | |
Kent Snyder, the CEO of Senomyx says in the NY Times artice (see above): "We're helping companies clean up their labels." (They are just going to post this on labels as "artificial flavors".) And their stock has doubled http://www.senomyx.com/ Oh boy! If you want to get notices when they update the Senomyx site, go to: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=127189&p=irol-IRHome and input your email address. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 9:18 am: | |
"clean labels" That means they don't want you to know what's in there. Absolutely chilling. When did we go from an upstanding ethical society to one where we only worry if something is "legal" or not. Ethics and "doing the right thing" in business is becoming quaint. They value getting away with misleading the consumer. Time to boycott. It's the only thing they understand. I was watching the Food network last nite. I saw Alton Brown talking about the wonders of umami on a little info spot. They got to him too. The Glutamate PR machine is in full swing. |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 4:53 am: | |
Carol - You are so right. I wonder how many of these corporations already have "integrity" built into their mission statements giving lip service to stock holders and customers. One organization is on to the Senomyx issue but I don't know anything about them. It is "CorpWatch - Holding Corporations Accountable". They posted same article under title of Fake Flavors at http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12053 |
Chef Pizzal
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 4:09 pm: | |
RE: Raw Pizza Dough Crust Prep- Inhibiting It's Rising While Baking
Hi,
Would you be kind enough to help me solve an ongoing problem concerning pizza dough rising. I want the pizza crust area only not to rise , bubble, or distort much. It is essential to have a consistent product with a consistent plan.
Scenario:
1) I have a prepared ball of pizza dough ready to be used.
2) I flatten it to prepare for baking.
Problem:
What can I do or add to the flattened out pizza dough to inhibit the crust (only) from rising.
I have limited success by:
1) Brushing the raw dough crust with a saturated solution of salt and water. (The salt kills some of the surface yeast content, thereby inhibiting fermentation and CO2.)
2) Using a Docking Roller on the raw crust helps too.
Question:
I cannot control the ingredients already prepared to make the pizza dough ball (i.e. flour, yeast, etc.).
What can be done to inhibit the raw dough crust (only) from rising as close to unleavened as possible?
I greatly would appreciate your feedback. Thanks.
Chef Pizzal |
Chef Pizzal
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 4:10 pm: | |
RE: Raw Pizza Dough Crust Prep- Inhibiting It's Rising While Baking
Hi,
Would you be kind enough to help me solve an ongoing problem concerning pizza dough rising. I want the pizza crust area only not to rise , bubble, or distort much. It is essential to have a consistent product with a consistent plan.
Scenario:
1) I have a prepared ball of pizza dough ready to be used.
2) I flatten it to prepare for baking.
Problem:
What can I do or add to the flattened out pizza dough to inhibit the crust (only) from rising.
I have limited success by:
1) Brushing the raw dough crust with a saturated solution of salt and water. (The salt kills some of the surface yeast content, thereby inhibiting fermentation and CO2.)
2) Using a Docking Roller on the raw crust helps too.
Question:
I cannot control the ingredients already prepared to make the pizza dough ball (i.e. flour, yeast, etc.).
What can be done to inhibit the raw dough crust (only) from rising as close to unleavened as possible?
I greatly would appreciate anyone's feedback. Thanks.
Chef Pizzal
Bonjourrre@aol.com |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 9:03 am: | |
Make you own dough. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 12:28 pm: | |
Deb, Can we get rid of abusive posts from anonymous?
Another thing I have noticed regarding what appear to be irrelevant posts is that the headers on this discussion board are not clear that this is an anti-MSG website.
Chef Pizzal, keeping dough cool limits its rise by cutting down on the action of the yeast. |
Jerry Story
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 3:31 pm: | |
Hint about posts from anonymous:
http://slashdot.org/
On the slashdot website
anyone who posts anonymously is given the name:
Anonymous Coward |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 6:40 pm: | |
Jerry,
Thanks for the levity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_Coward |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 8:46 pm: | |
Carol, do you have any specific ideas to define the headers better? We do say this is a board for those sensitive to MSG and aspartame. We haven't had much trouble so far, but it seems lately we are getting some real winners! Mike said he can get rid of some of the junk that is posted here. He will work on it as soon as he gets a chance. We sure do appreciate your suggestions and everyone's input. We must be doing something right...we are getting so many calls each day. MSG is a buzz word now. Must make you-know-who mad! |
Laurie M
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 1:04 pm: | |
Who Lord Voldemort?
Just kidding but it struck me as funny. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 9:16 am: | |
Ha! Ha! |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 12:56 pm: | |
Excellant two-page article by Daniel Murphy, D.C.in the American Journal of Clinical Chiropractic. Dr. Murphy is well-known in the field and is currently the Vice President of the International Chripractic Association.I do not ordinarily read this journal,however I am happy to see the article under Soft Tissue Research, "Glutamate/Aspartame-Pain in Your Brain. The article mentions www.truthinlabeling.org as a source of additional list of names of "glutamate as it is added to food." The article doesn't state anything that most of us on the board don't already know but the
scientific basis for his statements are well documented. This Journal is not available on line, unfortunately. The article will reach a large audience of chiropractors. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 2:10 pm: | |
More on Dr. Dan Murphy:
http://www.theamericanchiropractor.com/articledetail.asp?articleid=360&category=20
Also see:
http://www.danmurphydc.com/newsletter.htm. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 2:58 pm: | |
Thanks! I will make sure my sons get this information. One is a chiropractor and one will be in 2 1/2 years. In fact, the oldest son...the one mentioned in our book who started us on this journey as we struggled to find answers for his his bad health (like mine), had always wanted to be an M.D. But after his very poor experiences with them while trying to find answers to his puzzling (MSG induced) symptoms, he decided to switch gears and follow a more natural route as a doctor. Both my sons were athletes and after being impressed with the chiropractor who treated their injuries, they followed that course of study. BTW, the oldest son had his second little girl last Tuesday (that's why I haven't been keeping up with the posts here the last week...been helping them). Sorry. And his brother is having a little boy next month. That will make 12 for us....where has the time gone? Yes, I know. I sound like a proud grandparent. |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 4:56 am: | |
CAUTION! See http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/productnews/news.asp?id=58526
Senomyx's MSG flavor replacement receives GRAS
"07/03/2005 - Four savory enhancers produced by food technologists Senomyx were awarded FEMA GRAS last week. The flavor enhancers are aimed at companies wanting to reduce the amount of monosodium glutamate added to their foods. La Jolla, California based Senomyx has set itself the challenge of trying to help reduce the over-consumption of food additives such as salt and food additive E621, otherwise known as Monosodium glutamate or MSG. Senomyx received Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) Determination from the Food and Extract Manufactures Association (FEMA) – a regulatory body of the FDA - for four of its savory enhancers. Savory enhancers S807 and S336, in addition to enhancers S263 and S976, which are closely related to S336, were determined as GRAS. Senomyx claims that it is the first biotechnology company to receive this FEMA GRAS determination. The company's savory enhancers activate taste receptors by augmenting the flavor of naturally occurring glutamate found in many food and beverage products and therefore reduce - or even eliminate - the amount of MSG necessary to achieve a "savory" taste in foods.
In laboratory tests, Senomyx's prototype boosted flavor by 40 percent, according to the company, which is also working on salt, sugar and bitter enhancers. The aim is that consumers will be able to choose foods that contain half the additives presently included in them, but that taste the same.The GRAS determination will enable incorporation of Senomyx's savory enhancers into a variety of food products including sauces, frozen foods, processed cheese and snack foods. Senomyx is currently working in collaboration with Nestle, Kraft, Campbell Soup and Coca Cola. The GRAS determination will allow these companies to begin test marketing the enhancers in some well-known foods. Senomyx expects the first commercial sales of foods containing these enhancers to be made in early 2006. "Receiving GRAS determination for our savory enhancers represents a very important milestone for Senomyx as we move towards the commercialization phase of our company," said Kent Snyder, Chief Executive Officer of Senomyx. "Now that we have received the GRAS determination, consumer acceptance testing of our savory enhancers can begin. We anticipate that the first commercial sale of products that include our savory enhancers will occur during the first half of 2006, which would result in royalty payments to Senomyx." |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 7:58 am: | |
So does this mean that these products will boost the enhancing properties of glutamate rich, but more accepted as natural, additives like autolyzed yeast, hydrolyzed protein, whey and milk proteins? If they intensify glutamate that is in so called natural foods like that, then all they are doing is creating something that will work on the same receptors as glutamate in the brain....???? dangerous, if this is true! I'm just thinking out loud...no science here, just digging for answers...we need more info as to how they work. Interesting that such effort has been put into coming up with something that allows food companies to pack their items with half the MSG if MSG is supposed to be so safe as they keep claiming. How contradictory and how like them. I read that top food companies have paid for this research. They've been trying to keep the truth about MSG covered for years while they attempt to come up with better alternatives to cover their back sides. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 8:21 am: | |
READ THIS:
We have an important survey for you to fill out at our site at www.msgmyth.com. We are doing this in conjunction with other ant-MSG support groups or sites.
Look for it on the cover page in the left hand menu.
THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!!! Please take a minute and make a difference! |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 2:38 pm: | |
Read and respond, please.
Just received this e mail and am posting it here so that anyone may respond to Bruce. Seems he needs to learn more about MSG than he already knows. Please give him some insights, if you will.
I suspect all he has learned is from the glutes.
From: "Bruce Nathan" <bruce@foryourkids.org>
To: <avenger@msgmyth.com>
Subject:
"As I have a Radio program I have done research on the MSG problem. I agree with you about the MSG problem and discussed this with many people,but please do not tarnish yourself by putting whey protein and toothpaste on your list.
No one really needs a special book on the right foods to eat... just go ORGANIC! And your list of medical problems sounds like warning from any drug precautions or interactions.
Bruce" |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 2:41 pm: | |
My response to him was:
"Hi Bruce,
Naturally occurring glutamate is present in a lot of foods, including fruits and vegetables, milk, beans,corn, wheat, mushrooms, meat, etc. In this natural bound form, it is not harmful. Our digestive system slowly breaks it down and it enters the bloodstream slowly as well. However, when foods high in natural glutamate are hydrolyzed, autolyzed, fermented, or modified, then the peptide linkages are broken down, and a different form of glutamate is created....free glutamate, the form found in MSG. In this form, it can bypass digestion, and can enter our bloodstream 8 to 10 times faster than normal.The main protein in milk and whey is glutamic acid. When it is exposed to high temperatures in the drying process, concentrated free glutamate is created, thus making it a product the MSG sensitive individuals must avoid. We react to processed foods that contain free glutamate-rich ingredients like calcium caseinate (free glutamate isolated from milk), modified corn starch, soy protein, hydrolyzed protein and the list goes on.
And as for organic foods, do some research on AuxiGro, which is comprised of 30% free glutamic acid...no, it does not wash off. It's a metabolic primer and was developed to make larger, tastier produce, but they learned that the bugs wont touch produce sprayed with it...smart bugs. Since it is made from "natural" ingredients (fermented proteins), many organic growers use it. I appreciate organic growers and especially those who grow with old fashioned manure. Have no problem there.
Please don't try and tell me the reactions of people are not important. Every one of those reactions are commonly suffered by people Mike and I have helped. I didn't make them up. They are reported over and over again as disappearing with MSG elimination and have been for 10 years. The most commonly reported ones are migraine headaches, ADD in children and adults, hyperactivity, stomach disorders, heart fibrillation, depression, hives, asthma, eye problems, sleep disorders, anxiety. Why take a pill that can give such side effects, when one can avoid MSG and aspartame, and get well?
I get several calls a day, and these are from people who received no help from several doctors or the drugs they prescribed. One body builder was so ill he was relegated to a wheel chair. I asked if he was using protein drinks and he had been for years. He emails every year to thank me and says he keeps warning people about whey and soy protein drinks. He's helped several fellow body builders who began to suffer mysterious symptoms. Tell the mother of a child who could not longer function due to glutamate toxicity, and who now has her child back, that the hidden free glutamate found in children's toothpaste is safe. (carrageenan is hydrolyzed seaweed, and contains free glutamate). There are several sources of free glutamate in toothpaste, not to mention, artificial flavorings and colors.
Why don't you post your comments on our discussion board at www.msgmyth.com? You might learn more than you think you know about MSG and its hidden sources. I for one am thrilled that my small contribution, the book that I wrote to help fellow sufferers, has helped so many people.
Most sincerely,
Deb" |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 9:09 pm: | |
I'm reposting this from Monday. Felt it would be helpful to newcomers. I wanted to let you all know that Jack Samuels and I have been working with Lynn Stratton, the reporter of this article, for several months. She submitted 2 other articles that her editor would not accept. We were thrilled that this one was finally published.
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 5:32 am:
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/09/25/Perspective/Want_full_disclosure_.shtml
Want full disclosure with that meal? Article By LYNN STRATTON, Published September 25, 2005 --- Saint Petersburg Times ---
When the Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act, also known as the "Cheeseburger Bill," cleared the U.S. House last year, the food and restaurant industries cheered. Now, the legislation awaits passage in the Senate. The bill would ban lawsuits against the food industry if consumers gain weight or experience obesity-related health problems from consuming its products. By calling it the Cheeseburger Bill, however, the sponsors are implying it's about fast food - and it isn't. It's about all prepared foods, whether we get them in a restaurant, a school cafeteria, a hospital or a supermarket. And prepared foods are increasingly loaded with a flavor enhancer called glutamate, or MSG. (According to an FDA fact sheet, glutamic acid, L-glutamic acid, monosodium glutamate and glutamate are all commonly known as MSG.) For centuries, cooks in Asia used seaweed to flavor foods. But in 1908, Japanese scientists isolated the active component, and the Ajinomoto Company, currently the world's leading producer of MSG, was born.Then, MSG came from seaweed; now, it's more often produced by genetically modified bacteria. MSG is available in most supermarkets, and in its various forms it's added to nearly all processed foods, including bouillon, salad dressings, yeast extracts, powdered milk, soy sauce, even canned tuna.You can even find it in infant formula, pet foods and produce. In its promotional literature, Emerald BioAgriculture Corp., makers of the popular plant growth enhancer called AuxiGro, notes that its product will produce higher yields, bigger fruit and vegetables, and "a noticeable swelling in your bank account."That swelling bank account is the reason MSG is added to so many products. A few cents' worth allows food producers to use less costly, and fewer, ingredients and more filler. But flavor is less a matter of ingredients than of body chemistry. Flavor enhancers such as MSG stimulate our taste buds and then our brains; what we're eating simply tastes better. And when we like a product, we buy more of it. That's all good for the food industry, but for consumers it's a different story. The first published report of a physical reaction to MSG appeared in 1968, in a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine that labeled the cluster of symptoms Chinese Restaurant Syndrome.But it soon became clear that the syndrome went well beyond the instances of numbness, tingling and chest tightness reported in that initial letter. Researchers found that MSG could actually stimulate our neurons to death, particularly in infant animals. In fact, they routinely used MSG to induce brain damage in newborn rats and mice; the MSG appeared to damage the hypothalamus, the part of our brain that controls our weight. Since then, the MSG-obesity link has turned up in research done around the world. The MSG industry counters such findings by saying that MSG occurs naturally, that glutamates are found in many foods, including tomatoes, mushrooms, even some cheeses. To promote its products, Ajinomoto created the Glutamate Association and the International Glutamate Technical Committee, both of which fund and publish studies showing MSG is safe. However, the MSG industry has close ties to government agencies, including the Food and Drug Administration and the U.S. Department of Agriculture. For instance, Andrew G. Ebert, Ph.D., chair of the IGTC, was until recently a member of the FDA's Food Advisory Committee, overseeing the safety of our food supply. And FDA and USDA regulations require only that monosodium glutamate, the sodium-glutamate combination often sold as Accent, be listed on labels. Other added glutamates need not be labeled. In 1998, AuxiGro received an Environmental Protection Agency exemption from the requirement of a tolerance for residues. That means there's no limit to the amount of glutamates that can remain on or in produce treated with it, and treated produce need not be labeled in stores that sell it. So MSG is in our foods, but we don't always know which ones, or in what quantities. And it's been implicated in a host of physical ailments, including neurological diseases and obesity, but the food producers are free to add as much as they want to their products. Russell Blaylock, a board-certified neurosurgeon and author of Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills, notes that our current childhood obesity epidemic mirrors exactly the MSG-induced obesity in experimental animals. Worse, he says that consuming MSG is addictive: "People will not experience withdrawal symptoms as seen with heroin, but they will crave glutamate-enhanced foods over unenhanced foods." Other researchers agree. Michael Hermanussen, M.D., a pediatrician in Germany, says the amounts of glutamate found in nature aren't the problem; it's the glutamates we add to much of what we eat and drink that cause overeating. Hermanussen has been conducting a study using Memantine, a drug usually used to treat Alzheimer's disease, for weight control, and all of his subjects, he says, have lost weight easily. Memantine is a member of the class of drugs called glutamate blockers, which keep MSG from reaching glutamate receptors in the brain. Ajinomoto's pharmaceutical arm, Ajinomoto Pharma, partners with a company called Daiichi Pharmaceuticals. Daiichi partners with Merz Pharmaceuticals. And Merz produces Memantine. The same company that produces a food additive linked to neurological damage and obesity is also involved in producing a drug that can block the effects of that additive after we consume it. And now, our elected officials may well compound the problem by passing legislation that will remove the only recourse we have if we become obese or ill from consuming that additive. Granted, if someone eats nothing but quintuple cheeseburgers and super-humongous fries every day of his life and then becomes obese and sick, he's pretty much given up any right to sue the providers of those products. He knew what they were when he ordered them. His was an informed choice. This is different. The information we need is being kept from us, deliberately, in the name of profits. If we're going to be held personally responsible for our food consumption and its effects on our health, we need to be told exactly what's in that food. All products containing added MSG, in any form, should be labeled as such. |
Lisa Marie
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 2:32 pm: | |
I sent the times a letter thanking them for publishing that article and urging them to do follow ups in the future. Won't they be surprised to get letters from around the country by concerned readers. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 8:22 am: | |
I so glad you did that, too, Lisa Marie. So many times people ask us what they can do to help in this cause. This is one of the best tools we have. There most likely will be letters to the editor that will condemn Lynn amd her anti-MSG article, and they will be most likely be tied to the food industry in some way. So we all need to add our two cents and support what took a lot of guts and hard work to get published. Lynn told me that she had hopes for 3 consecutive articles to be published, but her editor wouldn't run 2 of them. When you write to the editor, please mention ours and Carol's sites (www.msgmyth.com and www.msgtruth.org). Hopefully, if they won't mention the sites, that people will do a search on MSG and find them anyway. Thanks. It only takes a minute to go to the St. Petersburg Times site and click on "contact us" to be able to send in your letter to the editor. It's so great when such articles get published! |
Lisa Marie
| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 9:07 am: | |
Hi Deb and all,
I just want to tell you that I got a personal response from Lynn Stratton thanking me for writing to the SP Times and supporting her article. Here is a part of what she said, "You
might want to take a look at www.truthinlabeling.org and www.msgtruth.org
for more information, as well. I was pretty much limited in what I could
say in that small space, but people like those who run these two Web sites
have been trying to get information out for years."
The more people who write to the SP Times with positive comments about her column the better! |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 8:47 pm: | |
Hi Lisa Marie. Received a very nice email from Lynn, too. Her article is going to help a lot of people. I hope there are more such journalists willing to take on these industry giants. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 1:43 pm: | |
Dr. Blaylock interview tonight!
This will be the same station I was interviewed on last month.
On the air
Sunday 10PM- 12Midnight EST
WMHB, Waterville
(you can listen to it over the internet)
89.7FM in Central Maine
Live from the campus of Colby College
Live webcast: www.colby.edu/wmhb
Tonight's Program Schedule- 10/30/05:
1) TESTIMONIES: CANCER GONE!..thanks to a
live food diet! Hear the great reports!
2) AUDIO LECTURE: "Cancer Prevention"-
Dr. Russell Blaylock, MD, gets down to the
nitty-gritty of the cancer equation: how does
it start, how does it grow, and how is it
stopped? Board certified neurosurgeon, author,
lecturer, and nutritionist, Dr. Blaylock tells it like it is.
A great listen, if you dare!
3) CANCER FACTS: An overview of this
dreaded disease and what you can do
to avoid it. Get smart now!
4) RECIPE: Waldorf Wonder |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 2:59 pm: | |
AuxiGro facts from Jack Samuels:
I needed to get more information concerning AuxiGro due to questions from people via email and because of the discussions we have had here about it. Here is the information sent to me by Jack Samuels and I thought it would be beneficial to share:
"Deb:
Although things change rapidly, to my knowledge, AuxiGro is not approved for use on organic crops. Several years ago, the Organic Standards Board was about two weeks from approving the product. At the time, I flew to Washington to meet with Board members, and was able to defeat the efforts to approve the product for use on organic crops.
Yes, drift from other farms and irrigation water may contaminate organic crops. Worse yet, before I met with the Organic Standards Board, a hydrolyzed fish protein fertilizer and a hydrolyzed chicken feather fertilizer had been approved for organic crops. That likely explains why people like me with little tolerance for MSG have experienced reactions from some organic produce.
Jack" |
Hoodia
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:05 am: | |
There is a lot of talk out there about a brand of Hoodia called "Pure Hoodia" and I would like to let everyone know that their product is for real and I have used it and lost over 40lbs in less than 4 months. I have spoken to one of the owners and their comment on all of the bad press was that their competition will do anything to keep this great diet product off the market. I suggest that you check this awesome product out for yourself at http://www.Hoodia.tk |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 8:13 am: | |
I've heard that the hoodia tea works well and one does not have to worry about fillers, which many of us react to, including gelatin from gelcaps, which is high in glutamic acid. |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 2:44 pm: | |
Wow. You can automatically get your own updates on any topic without charge by placing a request at google at: http://www.google.com/alerts?hl=en
However, please: “Share your knowledge. It’s a way to achieve immortality.” (From the Dalai Lama) |
Lucie
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 2:49 am: | |
Found this at http://www.sngreen.com/eclecticdent.htm#SERVICES
Chronic pain may be an expression of biochemical uniqueness. Many chronic pain patients respond negatively to a common food additive, an amino acid called monosodium glutamate (MSG). MSG is also known as hydrolyzed vegetable protein. MSG is used as a flavor enhancer (Accent tm) in America. Up to 30% of Caucasians have difficulty metabolizing MSG. In Asia, pungent MSG has the status of a primary flavor, along with sweet, sour, bitter, and salty. The essence of this flavor is hydrolyzed vegetable protein (MSG). Only one percent of Asians have trouble metabolizing MSG.
MSG sensitivity defines a biochemical weakness in phosphorylating dietary vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) into its active coenzyme form P-5-P (pyridoxal-5-phosphate). Many chronic pain patients have adequate amounts of pyridoxine in the diet, normal levels in the serum, but may have a deficit in vitamin B6 function. Phosphorylated B6 is necessary to transport magnesium and zinc into the cell. The underlying cause of irritability and inflammatory symptoms of zinc or magnesium deficiency may be poor B6 function. Activated B6 is necessary to produce serotonin, the brain chemical of sleep and optimism. Depression and sleep disorders are common in chronic pain patients. In basic energy production, phosphorylated B6 is necessary, along with vitamin C and lysine, to produce CoQ10 (Coenzyme Q10). Along with copper and iron, CoQ10 is critically necessary to channel energy production in the cristae of our mitochondria
Does Vitamin B6 help? Any thoughts? |
Colette
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 3:49 am: | |
Lucie,
I am not a pro but there are many on this site that are! Have you done a search for B6. there is tons of info posted in the past. Based on my search, it seems many people take it with other supplements.
Thanks for the link. |
Crazy Counter
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 8:34 pm: | |
Check out this free crazy counter
http://www.crazycounter.us
.................................. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 12:45 pm: | |
People sometimes wonder why I spend so much time on this "MSG Thing". I decided to post this email I received today. The answer is there, as it always is when I hear from people kind enough to send feedback....and many are. It sure makes my day and gives me enough reason to ignore the opposition and keep going... and it's you wonderul people here that help make my days a lot more enjoyable. Hope you know how much I learn from you and appreciate your support. Here's the email:
"Dear Debbie -
I am one of your son, Michael's, chiropractic patients. He told me about your book because of some of the symptoms I was having. I ordered your book and started watching what I ate, trying to avoid as much MSG as possible. I was doing pretty well, because the symptoms were abating and I was feeling quite well. The dizzyness and balance problems were almost gone. Then, my son, Scott, who did not know about what I was doing, put some meat seasoning on our steaks one night. I got very dizzy, lost my balance and had to go to bed. The next day, I tried to think what I had eaten different and went to look at the seasoning he had used. The ingredients were salt and MSG. Needless to say, I believe I proved that the MSG is at least a large part of my problem, if not all of it.
I told my son what is going on so now he knows not to use the seasoning on my meat and to cook my meat in a different pan. I am just writing to tell you how much I appreciate your book and you for the work you are doing to educate us all.
I too am a believer and believe that God led me to Michael and you. I had been praying for healing for this and I believe God has given me this information/tools to make me well. I believe that sometimes God does a spontaneous instant miracle and sometimes we are expected to obey and walk through circumstances to receive our miracle.
Anyway, I want to say thank you for obeying God and sharing the results with us.
June C." |
david l smith
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 6:15 pm: | |
Dear Debbie, This is the first time i have visited this sight,and have already found out some good information.I have had some health problems for quite some time now and have always went to a doctor and had test after test done and when the test results come back it always negative.I went to the doctor about two weeks ago with problems diffculty swallowing{even liquids}. The doctor checked me out told me to come back in two weeks after i have finished the antibotics he had giving me.He looked down my throat and said it was a little red but Know major problem.He told me it could be acid reflux and ordered a barium swallow test.{did that yesterday no results yet}. My wife pointed out to me that i need to stop useing that {accent} on my food.At that point i looked up the ingredients and now you Know why i am at this sight.I have been putting that stuff on my food for years and did not Know what it would do.I am seeing a ent doctor right now and are waiting for the results from yesterday but should i be seeing a different type doctor. Any help yall could give me would be helpful.Thanks David |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 5:45 pm: | |
David, just be aware that most doctors and specialists know very little about the effects of MSG. The best thing that you can do is clean out your cupboards using the list on our site at www.msgmyth.com. I would hope that you consider getting our book to educate and help you shop and eat right. It makes the transition a lot easier. There are a lot of people who are being tested for their acid reflux and many other MSG related symptoms. You are not alone and are taking the right steps by checking out everything first with the doctor. But once they have you, you can bet they will either send you to another specialist or prescribe drug after drug. The answer is MSG elimination, along with aspartame, too. The people here are wonderful...a great support for any newcomer. And there are archives of information available at the left menu. Just type in the word/subject you want to learn about, and all the discussions on it will come up. |
Pure Hoodia
| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 5:42 pm: | |
Info about the Hoodia Diet Pill AKA Pure Hoodia AKA Hoodia Gordonii - http://www.PureHoodia.com |
Carol H
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 8:29 am: | |
Wonder why the FDA hasn't been doing the people's business? Check out where this former FDA guy wound up:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/07/AR2006020701693.html |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 7:33 am: | |
The buddy system....you be nice to us (the food and drug industry), and we'll be very nice to you.
That's the sort of ethics and greed we are up against. |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 4:39 am: | |
NY Times, 2/12/06, "The Lowdown on Sweet - 1st page of Sunday Business section. By Melanie Walker -- A study conducted at an Italian cancer research center has rekindled the debate on aspartame. Its a very interesting article that you can read at http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/12/business/yourmoney/12sweet.html?th&emc=th
To see actual study go to http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/docs/2005/8711/abstract.html --- it is scheduled to be published next month. The study is at odds with the FDA's view of aspartame as safe. By May, the European Food Safety Authority should be finsihed reviewing the 900 pages of data from Dr. Soffritti of Italy. Sorry, much to long to post here! |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 3:14 pm: | |
NY Times, 2/14/06, Biotech's Sparse Harvest
By Andrew Pollack, The next generation of genetically engineered crops is finally on the horizon. But the list does not include many of the products once envisioned. (My comment: Fortunately!) http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/14/business/14gene.html?_r=1&oref=slogin |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 3:57 am: | |
The article linked above mentions plans to put algae genes into soybeans. I'm concerned that some of the genetic tampering could put high levels of free glutamate in foods that don't traditionally have them. |
Judy Schubert
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 6:40 am: | |
Does anyone know anything about Zsweet as a sugar substitute?
Judy |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 7:49 pm: | |
Judy,
"Zsweet" is erythritol, a low calorie sweetener produced by fermentation. See:
http://www.foodnavigator.com/news/ng.asp?id=48918-erythritol-goes-east |
Judy Schubert
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 6:27 am: | |
Thanks Roy, Sounds like a no-no.
Judy Schubert |
patrick
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 1:16 pm: | |
Back To Nature- now owned by Kraft.
This is a response I got when questioned on MSG.
"You recently asked what the definition of a natural flavor is in BACK TO NATURE Cereals.
A natural flavor is defined as an essential oil, essence or extract of a spice, fruit, meat, dairy or of a plant. A natural flavor must come from a natural source and cannot be synthetically manufactured.
Also, we use small amounts of MSG in a variety of products.
The exact amount of MSG used in our products is considered proprietary information.
MSG may also be present in small, varying amounts as a natural component of hydrolyzed vegetable protein (HVP) or autolyzed yeast extract. When these are added directly to our products, they will be listed in the ingredient statement.
It is possible for a product to contain more than one of either MSG, HVP, hydrolyzed plant protein and autolyzed yeast extract.
Please add our site to your favorites and contact us again soon.
Kim McMiller
Associate Director, Consumer Relations"
---------------
Not so natural huh? I hate these people.
Any good responses I can give back?? Anyone? |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 4:43 pm: | |
Only that they should change their name. |
Jerry Story
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 3:21 pm: | |
quote:Please add our site to your favorites and contact us again soon.
Kim McMiller
Associate Director, Consumer Relations"
I gotta better idea. Back to Nature wants publicity. How about a website gives them publicity.
List them as an evil company. The evidence that they are evil can come from their own statements.
Let people post messages about their experiences with the company under the name of the company. Something like throwing rotten tomatoes at them. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 9:34 am: | |
On a positive note, I wanted to share with you that Carol H. and I were interviewed on the Christine Sommers radio talk show last Tuesday. It was an Ontario, Canada broadcast and it went very well. The opposition who were invited to rebuttal us were a "no show". If we can get permission, we will have it available to access on our web site. |
patrick
| | Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 7:11 am: | |
THE UPCHUCK REBELLION..great article!
http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/33950/ |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 8:24 am: | |
Great us right, Patrick! I made a copy. It has inspired me to enlarge my vegetable garden this year . I can't wait for those fresh carrots, tomatoes and peppers! Wouldn't it be wonderful if an army of parents descended on the school lunch program people and do what some have done...demanded real food for their kids and even started a garden for the schools in their community? |
patrick
| | Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 10:10 am: | |
Hopefully now that my son in the school system now, my wife and I can change some things too!!!
Story: Yesterday my twins are in preschool and the teachers had prepared a lunch for the kids "hot dogs and fake mac-n-cheese. (I stopped in from my luch)Well, my kids had brought thier own lunch of organic breads, fruits and snacks. The comment I got from one of the teachers was "Oh, so sad that your kids can't eat what the other children are eating. My quick response "NO, IT'S SAD THAT THESE KIDS DON"T EAT MORE LIKE MY KIDS(I said with a smile). |
Sarah Stripling
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 5:59 am: | |
Please Help!!!! I'm a 40 year old woman in south georgia. My husband and I started noticeing links to the foods I was eating and the reactions I was having. Through the years the reactions have gotten worse. We have realized that anything related to MSG is the culprit. When I was younger I never had a problem with food, this has happened since my late 20's. I've never had a doctor that could diagnose me. My husband and I just used me as a guinea pig at home. Can anyone please give me a list a Doctors with phone numbers that has dealt with this kind of problem. I'm worried that one day it will kill me. Sarah Stripling |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 11:52 am: | |
I have yet to find a doctor who understands the issue of excitoxins as much as the regulars who post at this site do --- and I've seen a heck of alot of doctors! You can take control and prevent further damage to your health. |
patrick
| | Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 4:27 am: | |
They are tinkering with the food again!
http://www.janethull.com/newsletter/0606/us_senomyxs_fake_flavors.php |
Melissa H.
| | Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 12:47 pm: | |
I'm not sure a doctor can really help? There is not really any medicine that can be prescribed - My allergist told me this once, years ago, he understood about glutamate and the problems, maybe not the full extent, but he said I should avoid the culprit, and he gave me some info about it. It's not like there are allergy pills or shots you can take for it, and that is really all most doctors know how to handle illness.
and to PATRICK!! WAY TO GO!!! AWESOME!! we all need to get the message out anyway we can! People eat like crap, and that it's NOT OK - and that we are not the BAD ones for caring about what we eat! I once had a friend who didn't want me to tell her what was bad about the pizza I couldn't eat, because she wanted to be able to continue to order it on Friday nights for her childrn when she didn't feel like cooking!
sorry, I used to visit the board alot, but was timid about posting, I'm back with a vengance and kind of my own mission - mainly out of frustration with the world and attitudes etc, as well as more roducts getting msg instead of FEWER! So thought I'd get my 2 cents in! I have a whole lot more confidence than I used to about this, and I don't want to offend anyone. |
Lisa Marie
| | Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 1:31 pm: | |
Found this at truthinlabeling.com. I urge you to write to your legislators. Thank you! Go to link and scroll down just a little:
http://truthinlabeling.com/ |
Deb A.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 7:59 am: | |
URGENT...from Jack Samuels. Go to his site at www.truthinlabeling.org to participate:
Stop the National Uniformity for Food Act: Senate Bill S 3128.
The pro-big-business House of Representatives has already passed HR 4167, the National Uniformity for Food Act. If S 3128 is passed by the Senate, legislation will wipe out hundreds of State food safety labeling laws.
Passage of S 3128 will guarantee uniformly greater profits for the food industry and uniformly lower food standards and less meaningful food labeling information for us all.
Industry has launched a vicious attack on food labeling. A bill to decimate labeling was passed by the House of Representatives in March, 2006. The Senate is now considering passing the same bill.
The Grocery Manufacturers Association has orchestrated House Bill H.R.4167 and Senate Bill S 3128 which together will wipe out State food labeling laws that exceed Federal standards, and prohibit any new State or Municipal legislation that exceeds Federal standards. If S 3128 is passed, we will have less regulation and less labeling; eliminating critical State and Municipal laws that protect consumer health, and reducing all standards to the minimal standards promulgated by the Federal government.
We can stop this legislation in the Senate. To do so, contact both of your Senators NOW and ask them to oppose S 3128.
It's easy. Click here for a list of Web pages, addresses, and phone numbers of all U.S. Senators. You can also call your Senators' local offices or call the Senate switchboard at 202-224-3121 and ask for the offices of your Senators.
The message is simple: Any legislator who votes for S 3128 is putting special interests before the interests of his or her constituents.
Click here to read more about the National Uniformity for Food Act of 2005 and more about what you can do to keep it from becoming law.
For up-to-date Senate action, or inaction, go to http://www.help.senate.gov/Bills.html and click on S 3128. On July 7, 2006 we found the following:
S 3128
Title: A bill to amend the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act to provide for uniform food safety warning notification requirements, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Burr, Richard [R-NC] (introduced 5/25/2006)
Cosponsors (7): Sen Chambliss, Saxby [R-GA]; Sen DeMint, Jim [R-SC];
Sen Gregg, Judd [R-NH]; Sen Isakson, Johnny [R-GA];
Sen Lugar, Richard G. [R-IN]; Sen Nelson, E. Benjamin [D-NE];
Sen Roberts, Pat [R-KS]
Latest Major Action: 5/25/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.
Any legislator who votes for S 3128 will be putting special interests before public interest. |
MEMorrisNJ
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| | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 11:07 am: | |
Its really easy to write to the legislators re S-3128 if you go to www.truthinlabeling.org ! With a couple of clicks, you have it done! I hope everyone here will follow Deb A.'s and Jack Samuel's request. To quote from the site: "Passage of S 3128 will guarantee uniformly greater profits for the food industry and uniformly lower food standards and less meaningful food labeling information for us all." |
anon
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| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 6:32 am: | |
I wrote to my senater, Lugar, one of the co-sponsors of the bill. Here is his response. Any suggestions for a reply?
Thank you for taking the time to share with me your concerns about S. 3128, the “National Uniformity for Food Act.” I appreciate this opportunity to respond to you.
The House of Representatives passed this bill on March 2, 2006. It would require nationally uniform food safety standards and warning labels. The bill would also preempt states from requiring differing labeling requirements, which arguably complicate production and sales of national brands. The bill does allow states to petition the Food and Drug Administration in order to maintain their own requirements, or have those requirements adopted as the national standard. The law was introduced to ease complications created by a patchwork of state laws.
Again, thank you for taking the time to contact me. I am hopeful that you will continue to share your thoughts with me on matters of importance to you.
Sincerely,
A
Richard G. Lugar
United States Senator |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:51 am: | |
I would call Senator Lugar's attention to the fact that the FDA, who would have the last word on any warning labels has been lax in listening to its scientists rather than corporate leaning political operatives. We can't at this moment in time trust the FDA to do this. They are severely compromised. Ask the Senator for specific examples where NOT having such a law created a severe hardship on a food company. Or is this just again about corporate profits over public health? Different countries have different labeling laws, and food companies have no trouble complying with that. I worked at M&M/Mars where we had to comply with completely different ingredients for different countries as certain ingredients were banned in certain countries. Why do we have to give up protections in the states? These companies have to deal with items like this all the time. How many different state laws apply here, or is this all a red herring to save Donald Rumsfeld some face for getting aspartame approved over the objections of FDA scientists and the fact that New Mexico activists are trying to get aspartame banned one state at a time since the Bush Admin will always "stand by their man?" and crush any ban on aspartame. Call me cynical, but I find it extremely suspicious that this law was written around the same time as the move to ban aspartame in New Mexico. |
anon
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| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:35 pm: | |
Thanks Carol. I'll draft something from your comments! |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 2:48 pm: | |
Great story to share with you here (email sent yesterday). This is the difference we are making for so many people. It's so gratifying! So when we get frustrated at times like we all do about the MSG issue, remember that we ARE reaching a lot of people. And the circle is ever widening.
"I just wanted to take the time to thank you for maintaining such a wonderful web site and for writing your book. My husband, who is very fit and successful, has been secretly miserable for the last 20 years. Since age 20, he has dealt with 'IBS', irregular heart beat, high blood pressure, insomnia, asthmatic reactions, itchy skin and eyes. Doctors blamed the IBS on stress, as well as the blood pressure. It was all too easy for the doctors to tell him that his body just didn't handle the stress of work and fatherhood. Last year his doctor put him on blood pressure medicine. Being very active people, this was not ok with us. He works out every day, he has no family history of HBP, he is not overweight, etc. The lower dose medicine did nothing for him, so the doctor kept trying stronger and stronger combined therapy. The side affects of this, along with his typical 'IBS symptoms', were horrible for such an active individual. According to the doctor, he had a 'disease', needed to accept that and treat it.
This summer I happened to use an entire fajita spice on mix on beef while on vacation. I was reluctant to use it since I had heard that MSG wasn't good, but I didn't pack my spices from home. Oh well I thought, it'll work in a pinch. Well, my wonderful dinner made my husband sick as a dog. Not only did it kick in the IBS, but his heart was racing so hard that I though it was going to jump out of his chest. He spent the next couple hours going between the couch and the bathroom. Since I had also eaten the same dinner and had no reaction, I knew right away that it had to be the 'MSG'. Knowing that he's had IBS issues for years and actively avoids certain foods, I started questioning him on what he avoided eating. As it turned out, everything that he avoids eating contained MSG. I immediately logged into the internet and googled MSG reaction. MSGmyth and MSGtruth helped me put the pieces of the puzzle together and confirmed that all of his symptoms were a result of MSG/free glutamates. I was amazed to read the long long list of things that contain MSG and free glutamates.
We came home from vacation and rid our house of anything containing MSG or free glutamates. I've been cooking everything from scratch since our experimentation has proven him to be highly sensitive to everything on the MSG/Free Glutamate list. It has been 4 weeks and the change has been amazing. ALL of the symptoms listed above went away. He is no longer on blood pressure medicine because his blood pressure has dropped over 20 points each on both the diastolic and systolic. His heart no longer races, his eyes are no longer bothering him and he has been sleeping like a baby at night. It is unbelievable!!!!! He can actually gets right up after dinner and helps clean the kitchen (he used to have to 'digest' laying down flat for at least a half hour). I thank God that we live in the Northwest, can grow our own organic fruit and vegies (and buy at our neighborhood farmers market), and have access to Trader Joes, Whole Foods and New Seasons.
We have never been junk food eaters, but didn't realize HOW tainted the food supply is with this stuff. It is amazing how far out of our way we have to go to avoid this stuff. I can't thank you enough for all of the information you have shared through your web site and book. It has made the biggest difference in our lives. I thank you, my husband thanks you, and our small children thank you. I hope that more people find your web site before they have to go through as many miserable years as my husband did.
Sincerely,
Sharon" |
MEMorrisNJ
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| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 3:23 am: | |
Even in Nigeria --- MSG propaganda!http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=59125
Enhancing Delicacies...the Monosodium Glutamate Alternative
By Godwin Haruna, 09.24.2006
The question is, will it be possible to savour your popular delicacy without food enhancers, be it local or foreign? Most respondents, if not all, will probably say it is near impossible to enjoy any meal without enhancers with the exception of fruits. This is why even before the foreign enhancers were introduced into the country, all the cultures in the Nigerian society have their own food enhancers indigenous to them.
At a media parley last week, Mrs. Margaret Olele, secretary of the Monosodium Glutamate Association of Nigeria, explained that MSG is widely used as a flavour for cooking as a taste stimulant and flavour enhancer. Olele explained that Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) is a sodium salt of glutamic acid, a form of glutamate.
She stated that it was discovered in 1908 by Prof. Kikunae Ikeda from Japan. "Glutamate is an amino acid, which are proteins, the building blocks of life and is naturally found in almost all foods like vegetables, meats and cheese", she stated.
Olele stressed that the human body contains about 1.4 kilogrammes of glutamate found in muscles, brain, kidneys, other organs and tissues. She said the amount of glutamate added to food as seasoning is in the range of 0.1 to 0.8 per cent of food consumed. According to her, hundreds of scientific studies have been conducted on glutamate with a focus on its characteristics and use as a food ingredient. The characteristics of MSG, she noted, are white crystalline powder having a characteristic taste, readily soluble in water, highly stable with shelf life of over five years and absorbs no humidity.
Others include absence of effects on aroma of foods, it enhances flavour characteristics of food via continuity, mouthfulness, impact, mildness and thickness, among others.
She said no scientific study any where in the world has proved that MSG has any side effects whatsoever. "Monosodium Glutamate have been used through the centuries in Europe, China, Japan and South East Asia as a taste stimulant and a flavour enhancer. In the 1980s, MSG entered into the Nigerian market and served as a springboard for the consumption of MSG products in other West African countries", Olele stated.
She stressed that in 2001, the MSG association had 18 registered brands and over 15 unregistered smuggled brands. However, she added that the situation has changed for the better as they are about 23 registered brands and less than five unregistered brands existing epileptically.
She said the group achieved that feat by using a number of strategies including, publishing the names of unregistered fake and adulterated products in the national dailies, collecting samples of both registered and unregistered brands in markets and subjecting them to laboratory analysis to ascertain they meet appropriate standards and generally, providing enlightenment.
"Before the 1980s, MSG was basically in bullion cubes as an integral component. As it emerged as seasoning in the 80s and Nigerians began to savour the unique taste of Umami (taste) through MSG products. Outdoor foods like 'suya' now enjoys large patronage as they utilised the unique taste of Umami. As we moved into the 1990s, with the increase in fast food and eateries, the evolution of the eating out culture brought about significant increase in the growth and usage of MSG in snacks like sausages", Olele stated.
She added that the introduction and gradual acceptance of noodles also in the 1990s saw the increase in the usage of MSG as an integral ingredient in the seasoning noodles. "Thus, the usage of MSG in bullion cubes directly as seasoning in large eateries like Chinese restaurants and big noodles industry show the increasing importance of MSG as flavour enahncer in the food industry. They also account for economic growth of the country as well as recruitment of many to the labour force", the secretary stated.
According to Olele, monosodium glutamate packaging and importing companies are largely regulated by agencies such as National Agency for Food Drug Administration and Control (NAFDAC), Standard Organisation of Nigeria (SON), Federal Environmental Protection Agency (FEPA) and other agencies of government. She added that there also exists the self-regulatory non-governmental MSG Association, which was founded in 2000 in Lagos. This comprises of 10 NAFDAC-registered MSG companies.
"Glutamate is an important element in natural and traditional ripening processes that achieve fullness of taste. Monosodium Glutamate has increasing importance to the food flavour industry, with increased usage", she stated.
She added that the World Health Organisation (WHO) and Food and Agricultural Organisation (FAO) are among world bodies that have okayed MSG products for human consumption.
Dr. Patrick Okwuraiwe, a consultant to the association, who also spoke at the occasion, vouched for the genuineness of the MSG products in enhancing delicacies. Okwuraiwe stated that various researches carried out in various parts of the world have not vitiated the usefulness of the enhancers in meals.
He debunked the campaigns of calumny against the products as unfounded and attributed them to the handiwork of competitors. According to him, if those insinuations were true, large eateries and corporate companies patronising the MSG products would have a second thought. He said the reality on the ground is that these firms with large clientele, patronise MSG products without recording any adverse effects |
Gary Benton
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 7:09 am: | |
I just read this at http://www.newstarget.com/021053.html
"...when they grew three varieties of winter wheat and found that sulfur-deprived grain had up to 30 times more amino acids."
If this wheat is highly processed or brought to high temperatures before it is eaten, I wonder if it would have more free glutamic acid in it? |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 8:25 am: | |
Radio interview...
Just wanted to let you know that yesterday I was interviewed by one of the largest English speaking stations in Europe (will give a link to the site as soon as I find it and also when it will be broadcast....covers Spain, Portugal, England, parts of France...). I wanted to include Carol H., but one of the secretaries I was communicating with said that it would only be a short 15 discussion. Well, it turned into 40 minutes! But that's good. The commentator, Mary, is MSG reactive and let me know that I needn't try convincing her of the dangers of MSG. She said that it is a growing concern in Europe and knew that many of her friends were reacting, also. The majority of Spanish dishes do not contain MSG, especially homemade meals, but as more people come to depend on restaurant and processed foods there, they are reacting more. Interestingly, the week before the interview, I received an email out of the blue from someone who sent me the European number for MSG (E621) and several other numbers for glutamate containing additives used there. Uncanny. So before the interview, Mike was able to post these numbers on our site and add them to our book. More uncanny, I received 2 email from strangers who had just recently returned from Spain, who informed me about the food there. This was all within the week of the interview. It gave me a heads up. Someone is on our side! |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 6:26 pm: | |
Deb A.,
If you haven't already, you can also add the number for aspartame(E951).
http://home.tiscali.be/nomoreillusions/aspartame.html |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 8:19 pm: | |
Thanks a million, Roy! Will do. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 4:43 am: | |
Deb, I think this is so exciting....you spreading your wealth of information abroad. Thank you, thank you.
Just curious, was the radio station in Spain and what countries received the broadcast? |
Lisa Marie
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 12:29 pm: | |
Hey Deb,
In your book you have that page with the other names MSG goes by. Have you thought of updating a page, maybe on this website, to add all the numbers of the 'toxic' names? One we could download and print? Thanks. |
Deb A.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, January 19, 2007 - 3:31 pm: | |
Thanks, Dianne. It was out of Spain and the countries that are reached by the station besides Spain, were Portugal, England, parts of France and some other countries I am not sure of.
Lisa Marie, my husband Mike, added the numbers to our web site and book the weekend before the interview. You can hear the interview here:
http://www.rem.fm/clients/debbyangsley
We knew that would be important to the European listeners. You can download anything from our site if you like. Thanks for the suggestion, though. You guys all keep us going. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Friday, January 19, 2007 - 3:32 pm: | |
BTW, yes, they did spell our name wrong in their address, just in case some were wondering. |
Deb A.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, January 19, 2007 - 10:15 pm: | |
The link should be:
http://www.rem.fm/clients/debbyangsley.mp3 |
Roy Piwovar
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 8:24 pm: | |
Thanks, Deb. Wonderful show. |
Deb A.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 10:18 pm: | |
Thanks, Roy. Mike was just saying how terrific you have been all these years...so committed and always there, ready to support all of us here. THANK YOU, friend! |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 9:21 am: | |
I am reposting this information for anyone who would like to listen to the interview:
Jan 17th
Just wanted to let you know that yesterday I was interviewed by one of the largest English speaking stations in Europe (will give a link to the site as soon as I find it and also when it will be broadcast....covers Spain, Portugal, England, parts of France...). I wanted to include Carol H., but one of the secretaries I was communicating with said that it would only be a short 15 discussion. Well, it turned into 40 minutes! But that's good. The commentator, Mary, is MSG reactive and let me know that I needn't try convincing her of the dangers of MSG. She said that it is a growing concern in Europe and knew that many of her friends were reacting, also. The majority of Spanish dishes do not contain MSG, especially homemade meals, but as more people come to depend on restaurant and processed foods there, they are reacting more. Interestingly, the week before the interview, I received an email out of the blue from someone who sent me the European number for MSG (E621) and several other numbers for glutamate containing additives used there. Uncanny. So before the interview, Mike was able to post these numbers on our site and add them to our book. More uncanny, I received 2 email from strangers who had just recently returned from Spain, who informed me about the food there. This was all within the week of the interview. It gave me a heads up. Someone is on our side!Here is the link:http://www.rem.fm/clients/debbyangsley.mp3 |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 12:51 pm: | |
Had to post this news:
Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:14 PM PST
Reports highlight Chinese MSG interest
Food Navigator Thu, 25 Jan 2007 4:20 AM PST
25/01/2007 - Honk Kong based funds management firm, Value Partners, could be set to invest in the growing Chinese monosodium glutamate (MSG) and fermentation market, according to local news reports.
And we wonder why there are growing health epidemics in China....diabetes, obesity, glaucoma...there will be much more..imagine the problems that will arise with such a large country/population, which doesn't have the kind of health and welfare system that we have. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 4:44 pm: | |
Poison is big business:
http://smartkids.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?we_cat=2&art_id=36839&sid=11882699&con_type=1&d_str=20070125
MSG and glaucoma:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2352709.stm |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 6:32 am: | |
I am reposting this information for anyone who would like to listen to the interview. It will soon be available on our site. Please forward the link on to friends and family and maybe we can start some kind of blitz of our own!
Jan 17th
Just wanted to let you know that yesterday I was interviewed by one of the largest English speaking stations in Europe (will give a link to the site as soon as I find it and also when it will be broadcast....covers Spain, Portugal, England, parts of France...). The commentator, Mary, is MSG reactive and let me know that I needn't try convincing her of the dangers of MSG. She said that it is a growing concern in Europe and knew that many of her friends were reacting,also. Here is the link: http://www.rem.fm/clients/debbyangsley.mp3 |
MEMorrisNJ
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 4:21 am: | |
From the Pakistan Daily Times at:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C02%5C08%5Cstory_8-2-2007_pg1_7
.....The entire glutamate industry is opposed to letting consumers know the details about MSG. Why? Because it knows that MSG is a toxic substance. It can cause adverse reactions, brain lesions, endocrine disorders, learning disorders, strokes, epilepsy, anxiety, depression, Parkinson’s disease and Alzheimer’s disease.
There was controversy in Indonesia in January 2001, when some Islamic clerics found that the MSG supplied to Indonesian supermarkets by Ajinomto contained pork extracts. The Japanese company withdrew the entire stock of MSG, 10 tonnes, and now other Islamic countries including Pakistan should be concerned at the possibility that the removed stock was redirected here. After all, a manufacturer seldom destroys its products if there is an alternate market available. mehreen f ishaque |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 10:57 am: | |
ATTENTION!TV interview with Dr. Blaylock and Jack Samuels coming soon.
Add to your calendars and be sure to record a 4 part report on MSG and its aliases that will run on Pat Robertson's "700 Club" planned for Feb. 21, 22, 28, and March 1. The Family network among others, runs this program. Becasue the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) accepts no advertising from food companies, they can run these reports with less blowback. Interviewed were Jack Samuels(www.truthinlabeling.org) and Dr. Russell Blaylock (www.russellblaylockmd.com). It will contain a great deal of data for four six minute segments. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 2:31 pm: | |
ATTENTION!TV interview with Dr. Blaylock and Jack Samuels coming soon.
Add to your calendars and be sure to record a 4 part report on MSG and its aliases that will run on Pat Robertson's "700 Club" planned for Feb. 21, 22, 28, and March 1. The Family network among others, runs this program. Because the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) accepts no advertising from food companies, they can run these reports with less blowback. Interviewed were Jack Samuels(www.truthinlabeling.org) and Dr. Russell Blaylock (www.russellblaylockmd.com). It will contain a great deal of data for four six minute segments. |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 7:21 pm: | |
There is an Op-Ed piece in the New York Times about MSG called China's Dash of Flavor. Please check it out and send letters to the Times. The author basically called those who avoid MSG hypochondriacs. Needless to say, it really ticked me off. I sent in a letter already. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:04 am: | |
I think they are getting nervous...the food industry and the glutes they hire. They know exactly that MSG is a growing menace and is becoming more of a buzz word. They keep on top of any headline that condemns MSG, and whenever there is one, you can bet that their PR people will make sure such articles appear to appease the natives. They own the newspapers and they know it. Universities suppress their own people's negative research about MSG since they know it would not make their benefactors happy (Monsanto, food companies, etc.).I'd like to learn more details about the author of the article. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:37 am: | |
Carol,
I sent off a letter to the editor, too. Ms. Dunlop lauds "intellectual curiosity", but cites not the slightest research before declaring an "absence of medical evidence of any harmful physiological effects of MSG". I wish they would run an article about "China's True Dash of Poison", as obesity and other effects of MSG are hitting them, also. http://www.newstarget.com/020729.html |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 3:20 am: | |
Deb A.,
Thanks so much for the heads-up on Dr. Blaylock being on The 700 Club in a 4-part series. I was able to stay up late last night and wanted to call all my friends to watch it, but thought they'd be in bed. Although the time was not the best, I am so thrilled to see this on TV and believe it's just a matter of time before other networks will cover this subject (at a more opportune time). |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 12:07 pm: | |
I recorded the episode, since we were away from the house, and will continue to record the rest. I haven't viewed it yet. How did they do? I have to tell you that I think a lot of people did see it, judging from the email and book orders we have been receiving since the broadcast. Fortunately, we just finished the 2007 updated version of the book...just in time. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 12:42 pm: | |
I think they did great - coming across as very credible. I am on vacation so I didn't have access to any recording device or I would have done so also. Glad to hear it is probably the cause for an increase of email and book orders. |
Susan
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 1:26 pm: | |
If you miss the show, you can go online to www.cbn.com . Click on "The 700 Club" tab, then click on "Previous Shows". Choose Wed., Thur., etc. Wed's. and Thur's. MSG special reports are about one-third of the way through the program if you want to fast-forward. This is wonderful information-- wish everyone could see it (especially those who are ignorant of the dangers of MSG). |
Deb A.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 5:07 pm: | |
For those who may be interested, the interview that I was asked to participate in out of Spain...Large English speaking station reaching several western European countries....can now be heard at www.msgmyth.com.
Loved her accent! |
Carol H
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 6:47 pm: | |
Deb, I still can't get the link to work. |
Roy Piwovar
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 4:05 am: | |
Carol,
The link to the interview worked for me. I just had to wait several minutes for it to load before it automatically started playing.
http://www.msgmyth.com/debbyanglesey.mp3 |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 4:03 pm: | |
I cannot believe all the book orders we have received this last week due to the 700 Club interviews and the one I did via Spain...lots of orders from western Europe and many from the Southeast, particularly. On top of that, our phone has been ringing continually. I am getting hoarse! But what a thrill to reach more people...the media can be a great tool for us. So write those letters to the editor of magazines, health sites, newspapers, whatever...and please don't be afraid to speak up when you know that someone needs the information we have. PLEASE!! We cannot do this alone. Speaking of which, we need to get some of the people involved in the Canadian study, perhaps even the person who wrote the article about autism , to see the connection to our processed foods and MSG. Any ideas??? |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 4:05 pm: | |
BTW, forgot to remind everyone that the next MSG segment on the 700 Club will be tomorrow and the last one on I believe is on the 1st of March. |
Lisa Marie
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| | Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 7:12 pm: | |
They are talking about it on the 700 Club board:
http://www.cbn.com/board/eboard.aspx?bKey=MSG |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 6:15 am: | |
We need to post and let them know about this discussion board, our site (www.msgmyth.com), Carol's site (www.msgtruth.org), and Jack's at www.truthinlabeling.org. I would, but I must rush to work right now... |
Phyl M
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 12:19 pm: | |
Saw 700 club, and was going to write about it here, but see everyone already knows about it. Isn't it just great? |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 5:22 am: | |
I posted yesterday on the cbn board and mentioned that I've googled msg and found 3 incredibly helpful sites. I just checked and it got posted.
I watched the program last night and something I'd never heard before really frightened me. Dr. Blaylock said something about the negative affect of MSG on a woman's eggs. Did anyone hear this? I have a 36 year old single daughter, who at some point will probably get married and get pregnant and although she's somewhat diet conscious (she watches fat content), she consumes MSG saying it doesn't bother her. Yikes. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 1:29 pm: | |
MSG effects the endocrine system, and that includes the hormones effecting fertility. The sperm count in young men has decreased dramatically in the last few years. My daughters have a lot of married friends who are having a very difficult time getting pregnant. |
LisaMarie
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| | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 6:27 pm: | |
PLEASE POST over at CBN's board. There is a person there who is trying to discredit Dr. Blaylock by saying he is a conspiracy theorist. DEB, CAROL, ROY, we need your input over there!!!
ex. posts from there:
able806
3/1/2007 2:53:10 PM I am sorry that I ready the health information today. Avoiding the MSG Threat. I was surprised when I read that Russell Blaylock was a major technical contributor to the article. This physician is known in the scientific community as conspiracy theorist and a propagator of false conclusions from scientific analysis. He makes claims while doing minimal research on his topics, by research I mean press releases, nothing published in the scientific community. Perhaps CBN should get a second opinion from someone who is conducting actual scientific research on the topics instead of someone looking to make a buck by selling “Cure all answers”.
bschneider5@verizon.net
3/1/2007 4:51:21 PM Would like the report on MSG to download.
LisaMarieSS
3/1/2007 6:37:35 PM I have been sensitive to MSG (that I know of) for the last 3 years. I do not eat out at all. I do not eat processed foods. It is very difficult because the food industry does not care that we are being made ill by food. Most people do not even realize what is happening to them. I got lucky by looking up MSG poisoning on google. There is a great site about MSG if you search for myths about MSG. I am VERY THANKFUL to CBN for taking a real investigative journalistic approach to the truth about MSG, and not letting the food industry get away with covering up the truth! Thank you CBN.
able806
2/28/2007 2:24:36 PM LOJ, I agree with you that the American life style is very stressful and does little to promote good health practices. There is a small area in Italy where the average life span is 10 years more than Japan's. These people eat horribly high levels of fats and red meats. Their life style though is that of rural farmers and they have a good sense of community where stress is at a minim. |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 1:58 pm: | |
LisaMarie,
I tried but I think they stopped taking comments after that troll Able806 put in 4 comments in a row. He had to be paid by the "Glutes" - no other explanation for his ridiculous posts. |
Lisa Marie
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 5:37 pm: | |
Okay Carol, thanks. I thought they just didn't put in the comments over this weekend, because they did add mine on 3/1. I wrote two more today, so if they add them I will let you know. Thanks! And I agree, he is a GLUTE proponet, no doubt! |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 9:15 am: | |
You can view the segments that Dr. Blaylock and Jack Samuels did on the 700 Club last month and a few days ago from links at our site at www.msgmyth.com.
I'll repeat them here, too:
CBN website has videos for the 4 segments of their MSG reports that ran these past two weeks:
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/107774.aspx
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/107253.aspx
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/110755.aspx
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/111557.aspx |
Lisa Marie
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| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:56 pm: | |
THANK YOU CAROL, etc, they posted our comments on the CBN board!!!!!! Nothing lately from troll Able806. Go here to read latest. Carol, Tom, way to go! So they were probably just off for the weekend. Thanks for the links, Deb! Now, if we could only get you and Carol on their show for follow up!! How to go about that?? |
Lisa Marie
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| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:58 pm: | |
Sorry, go here to read latest:
http://www.cbn.com/board/eboard.aspx?bkey=MSG&p=9 |
Lisa Marie
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| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 1:00 pm: | |
I think we all need to write here:
http://www.cbn.com/contact/feedback-cbnnewswatch.aspx
to try and get Deb and Carol on the show! |
Lisa Marie
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| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 4:40 pm: | |
CAROL,DEB-HELP-Able086 is posting crazy stuff in reply to your posts over on the CBN board. Please look quickly and reply!
able806
3/5/2007 2:19:45 PM LisaMarieSS, MSG is metabolized before 4 hours after ingestion is complete. Meaning that it would not be the cause of a migraine 8-36 hours later. You might be suffering from something else this would be something to mention to your Dr. at your next physical. Yes reactions are dose related but those with hypersensitivity (meaning those who get headaches from MSG) metabolize MSG just as fast as someone with out the sensitivity. I am sensitive to phenylalanine, I do not have Pku, no matter the dose I have a slight response to it.
able806
3/5/2007 2:23:22 PM LisaMarieSS, you have to understand the difference between MSG and the different forms of glutamic acid. All of those foods have glutamic acid or some form of glutamine, it is naturally occurring. MSG is a concentrated form that is made from purified hydrolyzed proteins. You have to know the difference. I listed some natural foods previously and the amount of free glutamine that is found in them. No mater what you will come in contact with glutamine it is just a matter of what form it is in.
able806
3/5/2007 2:37:37 PM carolh26, aspartame is not a source of glutamate. Aspartame does not metabolize into glutamate, in fact you have to have some glutamate in order to metabolize aspartame. Perhaps you should study up on your Biochemistry. Please provide your source for this claim. You can look up Aspartame metabolism on line if you wish to verify what I just posted. Plus you are being very misleading about phenylalanine raising your blood pressure. The amount of 3, 4 Hydroxypnenylacetate is very small compared to the amount of phenyl acetyl-CoA that is produced. You would have to ingest several grams of phenylalanine to get a response.
able806
3/5/2007 2:46:00 PM Cont, carolh26, I have not posted to belittle anyone on this board, most of my posts have been to clear up some of the misinformation that has been spread. I am a contractor for the NIH doing R&D and clinical trial work. The majority of my focus is based on verifying these so called "natural cures", to see if there is any truth to what people are claiming. My PhD is in molecular biology with a background in pharmacology. Many of the things that people have posted are not supported with empirical data to support the claims. That is why I keep posting about people getting the facts before they panic.
able806
3/5/2007 2:56:04 PM Munchkinkitty, The FDA does let big food companies do their own testing. However keep in mind that new product releases to determine if something is safe goes through 3rd party labs and testing with the FDA investigating the testing methods and protocols. You have to understand the process before making the claim that it does not work. I really hate to say it but there is a market out there for promoting information contrary to the facts. The "Natural cures" book is an example of this. This guy has made millions off a book that gives no hard research that the claims are true. For example is there any scientific evidence that Pat’s shake works?
able806
3/5/2007 3:13:10 PM Sunburst, Joseph Mercola (Mercola.com) is known to promote false information on his website. He has had several reprimands from the FDA on making claims that have not been proven true while also promoting items as pharmaceutical quality when they were not. I would not advise using the advice on his website. Quackwatch.org is a site that debunks claims made by people looking to make a buck by offering quick remedies without any scientific testing of the validity of their claims. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 9:15 am: | |
Lisa Marie, I must go to work again...and get more books ready for shipping, since the orders keep pouring in....in addition, I must baby sit tonight. I wish I could spend more time at their board, but I'm going crazy today. I would suggest that you post the link to the Canadian study connecting autism to glutamate on the CBN board. Perhaps Carol can set it up by writing a bit about it, too. The link is:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleid=D7C80F75-E7F2-99DF-3F71D9FC07888C4F&chanId=sa017
In addition, there is a misunderstanding going on at the board about aspartame being converted in the body into MSG. I think that needs to be addressed, but I don't have the answer. I'll do a little digging. Lisa Marie, this publicity is not a bad thing....it is wonderful...even when the glutes or some doctor paid by them get on the war path. People are intelligent and most were able to see the sincerity and brilliance of Dr. Blaylock and Jack. Good things always come out of truth, which many people could see in the interviews. Those seeking real help will not be turned away by a few skeptics or glutes...ir FDA claims for MSG's safety. In the latest AARP magazine, an article about the FDA, it stated," Drug manufacturer's failed to conduct 71% pf the latest safety tests they promised (the FDA)to perform on approved prescription drugs now on the U.S. market....one study in 2000 by a consumer health group found that "new" drugs had been sold for 5 and even 10 years before the promised test were done."
The FDA has no power to force companies to do these "promised" follow up tests and give approval of some drugs even though questions linger about their efficacy and safety. Think about how ineffectual this agency about our food's safety. You can quote this information. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 9:21 am: | |
This is from Jack Samuels:
"Amino acids transaminate (change) back and forth in the body, as they are needed. In my opinion, it would be inappropriate to claim that aspartame breaks down into glutamate or MSG. Incidentally, glutamic acid and aspartic acid are non-essential amino acids. If one were never to ingest these two amino acids, the body would have all that is needed to remain healthy."
What we do know is that aspartic acid acts on the same brain receptors as glutamic acid, thus causing the same neural stimulation and ultimately some of the same types of reactions in the brain and body. |
Anonymous
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 12:30 pm: | |
New product to avoid, although it claims not to contain glutamic acid. Wonder which amino acid they have isolated this time...l-cysteine?
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3/6/2007 - A new taste modification platform from Wild Flavors claims to allow manufacturers of savory goods to add the distinct umami flavor - and mouthfeel - to their products. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 4:02 am: | |
Yes, and SavorCrave will be on labels as "natural flavor". The ingredients are claimed to be "proprietary" and don't seem to be posted anywhere. Wild Flavors, owned by a Mr. Wild, has other flavorings such as SaltTrim. I would advise everyone to avoid foods listing "natural flavor" as an ingredient.
http://www.wildflavors.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.viewPage&page_id=126815FE-9845-C72A-C22E1FF48060F5FA |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 9:03 am: | |
LisaMarie,
Sorry I missed your past few messages. I gotta check every day. I tried to post some more on that board, so we'll see. I found a few scientific articles to make my point. Boy, what an ignorant pompous guy that Able806 is. So sure of himself, and so completely wrong. |
MSGkills
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 4:02 am: | |
Deb A. I don't know if the CBN board is closed yet but a nice post on the fact that the FDA, NIH and the glutamate people are basically the same people might be helpful. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 7:48 am: | |
To post that the FDA, NIH and glut people are the same is one thing, to come up with facts to substantiate that are another. |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 11:53 am: | |
The latest news about cocoa and why we seem to tolerate it better than one would think is due to a chemical present called epicatechin
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2007/03/12/nteens112.xml
And why would I be posting this? Because it seems every new miracle drug to treat the latest horrors is a - you guessed it - glutamate blocker or has protective properties against glutamate neurotoxicity. This is one. It is found in green tea - along with theonine and it is in a supplement very popular in China and Japan called Choto-san or Diao-Teng-San (made from Uncaria sinensis) given to elderly patients suffering from "headache, dizziness, vertigo, tinnitus, shoulder stiffness" etc. In other words, MSG symptoms. Now if Asians are not hurt at all by MSG, why is this glutamate-blocking treatment even used? Answer- MSG hurts everyone. But the Asian community has already found their glutamate blocking drugs even though they may not yet realize why they work. Gee, taurine, CoQ10, green tea, ginger and now Uncaria sinensis if those don't work. Asian medicine has been with us for a long time. It may take Western medicine a while to catch up. |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 12:06 pm: | |
Check this out too. http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion=ShowPDF&ProduktNr=224154&Ausgabe=228987&ArtikelNr=68913
Traditional Chinese medicine for stroke uses the same kind of plant that contains these glutamate blockers. It has to do with those same NMDA receptors which are hit by both aspartic acid and glutamate. Traditional Chinese medicine is full of these natural cures. The thing is, though, now young Asian children are eating more junk food than ever - like Westerners - and that means more MSG than ever but maybe not the antidotes that might protect them. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 3:22 am: | |
Here's another link to the asian medicinal herb uncaria rhynchophylla, used for such conditions as epilepsy and being investigated for use in Alzheimers:
http://www.raysahelian.com/uncaria.html |
Tom Fernstrom
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 3:50 am: | |
Hi All,
Lots of buzz going on about recalled pet food. Saw an article yesterday where the company involved said that they were checking with an new flavor ingrdient supplier but had nothing conclusive yet. Seems I read somewhere years ago that MSG was lethal to cats and dogs in much smaller quantities that humans can tolerate. I'm out of the country with a slow connection so can't check my recall to easily on the internet. Do any of you recall hearing this and if so, I wonder how the food industry will try to hide that the ingredient killing our pets is something being added to our food supply every day. |
MEMorrisNJ
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 5:16 am: | |
Tom - Your comment is right on. The pet poisonings are big news now -- hope it will be explained more soon. For info from the originating supplier's perspective, go to: http://www.menufoods.com/recall/ -- Appears that it is problem in around 40+ brands. |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 6:47 am: | |
I agree, Tom. In countries where they eat dogs, they kill them by giving them MSG first. We should check in with http://www.dogtorj.com to see what he has posted there. I bet the pets he takes care of are fine - because he advocates a wheat-free diet for pets. |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 6:50 am: | |
Sorry, the link is http://www.dogtorj.net |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 7:04 am: | |
I love to just check out that site every once in a while. He really explains thinsg so well. He is quite brilliant and entertaining at the same time. AND he is a trained and practicing veterinarian that really has the credentials to back up everything he says. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 8:10 am: | |
I was just going to post about the pet food and see there is a discussion going already. I would be surprised if they divulge the real culprit if it turns out to be glutamic acid or other excitotoxins found in some "new flavor enhancer". |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 1:18 pm: | |
The FDA said it couldn't be the wheat gluten. Right.......... I have an email to DogtorJ to see what he thinks of this. He is probably so relieved his animal patients eat diets devoid of wheat products. I hope someone interviews him about this. |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 4:39 am: | |
Reponse from DogtorJ:
Pet Food Recall- The Tip of the Iceberg
Hi Everyone,
I have very mixed feelings here. Of course, I am saddened by the death of the affected pets and the trauma this has caused the owners. BUT, this is the absolute best thing that could happen TO the pet food companies. I could not be more excited about the potential for seeing the much-needed changes in pet food manufacturing that may finally come about as a result of this "scandal". This recall should serve as a HUGE warning shot being fired across all of our bows.
The latest is that 14 pet deaths have been linked directly to the recalled foods, with 6 of them being cats that died in the studies conducted by Menu Foods themselves to confirm that the food was the culprit. The mortality and morbidity rates have shown that cats are more susceptible the effects of this food, which makes sense from a gluten standpoint since cats are a more strict carnivores and would be less adapted to dealing with eating grains.
The FDA, as of this date, still holds that they do not know what the exact culprit is while the company itself has been quoted as saying that they believe it is the wheat gluten acquired from a new supplier. They have replaced the gluten and gone back to manufacturing the recalled foods according to one report that I read. So, if that's true, they must be pretty convinced that it's the wheat gluten.
And wheat gluten CAN do this. Gluten, in sensitized individuals, can induce both chronic and acute kidney failure. The form of kidney failure is typically what we call an IgA nephropathy, in which antibodies and immune complexes formed against the gluten are deposited in the kidneys, which leads to damage and ultimately failure. Again, this can be chronic leading to persistent blood (microscopic) and protein in the urine or it can be very acute.
In most of the cases of the "tainted" food deaths, the pets had been eating these foods for months before succumbing to its effects. Many of you saw the emotion-charged interviews on national news that dealt with owners who thought they were doing the right thing by feeding their pets these foods but have now learned that "all of these months" they were poisoning their dogs.
First of all, is it a "tainted food"...one that contains a poison or a toxin in the usual sense...OR is it one that simply has a gluten in it that is too powerful for pet's (or human) consumption? I could easily believe that it is the latter and that they will find that this new source of gluten came from some a GMO or hybrid wheat that IS too powerful for human consumption and that is why it was cheaper and chosen to rpelace the company's old gluten.
It could be the old Starlink (CRY9C) corn story all over again. You remember that one, right? This occurred in 2000 and Taco Bell became the poster child, as they had to recall taco shells suspected of having this GMO corn that was intended only for animal feed. Of course, that story died quickly (like I am trying to keep this one from doing) and the public never heard about the millions of dollars spent to rid our food supply of this transgenic maize (GMO corn). They ended recalling over 350 brands of corn products in their attempt to clean this situation up. Who knows whether they were really effective, as corn allergies in humans have risen as I certainly believe they have in pets.
Their concern was it may cause "allergic reactions". Well, if you call immune-mediated reactions like rheumatoid, lupus, and asthma "allergic reactions" then that might be accurate.
This story should be sending shock waves through the public and veterinary communities but the response thus far has been one that seems limited to being concerned in a way similar to an E. coli outbreak. But if we KNEW beyond a reasonable doubt that it was the wheat gluten and if we KNEW what wheat gluten was capable of (like we who study celiac disease know), then we should be seeing the bigger picture here: That is this just the tip of the iceberg and that dogs and cats have been dying from this stuff all along and we have not known it. Then all it takes is for us to wake up to the fact that dogs and cats should not be eating these grains to begin with, whether man has genetically modified these foods to death or not (which they have).
The startling fact is that it is well-established that the lectins of gluten (wheat, barley, rye), dairy products (e.g. casein, lactalbumin), soy and corn are ALL capable of inducing serious health issues in those (sensitized) individuals consuming them. I am of the firm belief that these "big 4" are not healthy for anyone. They are simply more harmful to some than others. As I have written many times, it is a matter of [I]when [/I]they will cause a problem much more than IF they will. That's why I lovingly call them the "four horsemen of the apocalypse". You are starting to see why, right?
But why do these proteins wait to cause problems? That is a great question and one that keeps people from seeing the truth about these harmful glycoproteins/lectins. The fact is that the onset of the lectin-related
disorder- whether it be rheumatoid arthritis, type-one diabetes, lupus, etc- is usually preceded by a secondary event, such as viral or bacterial infection. Other things such as vaccines can act as triggers as well. As a result, there is a rather sudden influx and attachment of these inflammatory proteins to various cells in the body ushering in what we often refer to as "autoimmune" disorders. Of course, I hate that term because it implies an immune system that has gone haywire, attacking the body for no reason. No!
Our body and immune systems [I]never[/I] makes that kind of mistake. These things happen for a reason and these food proteins are ofetn the culprit.
Viruses also play a role (described on my Website).
All one needs to do is study celiac disease (gluten intolerance) to see how all of this works and appreciate the health implications that accompany this extremely common condition. And it does occur in dogs and cats. That has become painfully obvious over the past 7 years I have been studying this.
The Irish setter is the only known breed to suffer from gluten intolerance but it is clear that gluten is affecting many, many or our breeds or dogs and cats. And why wouldn't it? It is affecting us and we have had millennia to adapt to eating wheat. The pets have only been eating wheat-based pet foods for about 20 years now.
This leads to the final point (other than the fact that many of you are up in arms about so many of your "quality pet foods" being made by one big company in Canada): Are your pet foods "scientifically" made like you think?
I used to think so. Hey, I used to parrot back what I was taught that the pet food companies spend millions of dollars and years of intense research coming up with balanced and nutritious foods. I used to warn people not to add any table food so that they did not upset this "balance". I was one of their biggest fans...patsies.
But then I woke up and wrote "Gluten Intolerance and Your Pet". Why are we feeding dogs and cats wheat, barley, soy, and corn (and now dairy products...again...after removing them all 20 years ago). I'll tell you why.
It is because of one of two things: The manufacturers of pet food either don't have a clue as to what they are doing OR they know better and are doing the wrong thing anyway. I'll let the reader decide but if I were in the pet food industry, I'd rather claim ignorance.
If the research and development departments of these companies that are starting to use dairy products again in their foods TRULY think that lactose is the culprit (rather than the lectins of casein, lactalbumin, etc), then the executives in charge need to fire the entire lot of them and start afresh. If they really don't know what gluten can do to the kidneys, joints, intestinal tracts, brains and other organs of our beloved pets, then they all need to go back to school or find another line of work.
DO NOT let this story die. It does not matter whether they ever tell us that wheat gluten caused these problems. The fact is that it [I]CAN[/I]...and does...and that it has no place in pet food. The gluten found in the non-recalled dry food versions of these foods is only incrementally better, causing subclinical issues that shorten our pet's lives.
Do you really want to know why the average dog's life is 12 years and that of the cat is 13 years (in the USA) when the former can live to be nearly thirty and the latter to 40? Look no further than what's in their bowl. In a study that was done in Europe, those pets that were fed table scraps lived an average of 3 years longer than those fed commercial diets alone. Why?
Highly processed foods cannot possible contain all of the essential nutrients found in fresh meats, fruits and vegetables. And if our veterinarians can't understand [I]that[/I], then they too need a refresher course.
The combination of these foods being woefully deficient in nutrients and the fact that they are downright HARMFUL is an abomination. It is time to change this. Let this recall story be a warning sign but [I]please[/I] do not let it die.
I hope this helps,
John
John B. Symes, D.V.M. ("Dogtor J") |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 8:11 am: | |
Carol, these pet foods are also loaded with MSG and hydrolyzed proteins. Did you ask him about these facts? I would be curious about his position on these additives. Since the main culprits cited so far were the wet foods in gravy, I have wondered. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 10:53 am: | |
Carol, what can you tell us about glutamine? Wheat gluten is 40% glutamine, an amino acid. I am wondering does it break down or transaminate into glutamic acid? We all know what glutamic acid does to animals. |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:47 pm: | |
Deb, glutamine and glutamate transaminate into each other. Usually in a chemical reaction, things can go both directions depending on the conditions.
Usually glutamate is used to make glutamine.
DogtorJ has a problem with free glutamic acid as well as free aspartic acid. That is the basis of his GARD diet. However, in this particular case, the gluten as a protein is a problem too, since there may be an actual immune response too - which is where the kidneys become harmed. So I think there are two problems here, compounding each other. This Celiac reaction theory is very interesting. |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:48 pm: | |
Deb, glutamine and glutamate transaminate into each other. Usually in a chemical reaction, things can go both directions depending on the conditions.
Usually glutamate is used to make glutamine.
DogtorJ has a problem with free glutamic acid as well as free aspartic acid. That is the basis of his GARD diet. However, in this particular case, the gluten as a protein is a problem too, since there may be an actual immune response too - which is where the kidneys become harmed. So I think there are two problems here, compounding each other. This Celiac reaction theory is very interesting. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 3:38 pm: | |
Thanks Carol! I can better understand the wheat connection. I know that new flavor enhancers are being made from wheat and the manufacturers are boasting that they have more glutamic acid than MSG....which is already 78% free glutamic acid. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 7:38 am: | |
Deb A., What are the new flavor enhancers being labeled (called)? |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 10:34 am: | |
Natural Flavors...fun, huh? |
MEMorrisNJ
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 5:21 am: | |
Fast Food Nation is now out in DVD. Its worth seeing even just for the short segment in the beginning where one of the lead characters meets with a specialist in flavorings. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 10:51 am: | |
Thanks for the tip! |
Debbey
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| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 12:55 pm: | |
Monsanto....a veterinarian has a column in the Sunday paper
"A major concern is that the herbicide resistant, genetically engineered crops developed by companies like Monsanto actually absorb herbicides sprayed to control weeds. This means that animals fed genetically engineered corn and soya beans are also being fed highly toxic weed killers like glufosinate and glyphosate." |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 3:18 pm: | |
I wanted to repost this. Thought it was important to revisit in light of the recent Canadian study/report.
"Excerp from a posting by Debby Anglesey April 2001:
"Did anyone see the Montel Williams show on April 12, 2001? It's time to act again. Parents and specialists were on. Cluster areas where autism is 3 times the national average and growing,(Brick Township, N.J. and Staten Island, N.Y.) were discussed. Everyone wanted to know what was going on, and the following possibilities were mentioned: environment, food, vaccines (especially measles, mumps, and rubella----Jack Samuels says that this vaccine is especially high in glutamic acid and aspartic acid, as I recall), genetics. 1 in 10 of these children have a fragile X chromosome, 75% have some mental retardation, and 30% have seizures. A doctor who has a son who was diagnosed at 1 1/2 years is fine now at 4 1/2 years since his father did some researching and removed gluten and milk from his diet. He also gives him cod liver oil every day (vitamin A). His theories were barely discussed. The work of therapists took center stage, but the show did give viewers a lot to think about. I keep thinking about the results of the hundreds of lab tests done on animals over the years that demonstrated beyond a doubt what excess glutamate did to the neurological development (prenatally, eventually, in successive generations) of the lab animals and their offspring. I'm fearful that what is going on with our children is what was seen in the 2nd and 3rd generation of animals tested. They manifested an inability to learn (couldn't go through mazes), had mental retardation, and endocrine problems, birth defects, etc.. Most died obese and early. The doctor also made the observation that the autistic children of today are not the same as those of 30 years ago. Today, they are showing other puzzling physical symptoms: acrid diarrhea, seizures, and compromised immune systems. The doctor called these children "neurologically wounded children". A parent said each child is a "biological train wreck". These clusters are not just in N.J. or N.Y.. They are here in our town and around the world. I just received an e-mail from an alarmed man in Australia who said autism and ADD are epidemic there, too. I could cry. But as I always believed and still do, it will take the tragedy of our children to get people to demand some answers. It's going to happen....but oh, the cost." . |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 3:25 pm: | |
And here is a quote from our 2007 revision of the book in regards to the last quote above...
"Autism/Glutamate
A February 2007 news release has validated what we have been suggesting for years. A Canadian team has lead research that has involved 120 scientists from 19 countries and 50 institutions. Studied were the genetic codes of 1168 families, each of which had at least two autistic sufferers. In the analysis, researchers implicated the gene neurexin 1 on chromosome 2, and a sequence on chromosome 11. They code for glutamate synapses and receptors and transport proteins that deal directly with glutamate's use as a neurotransmitter. The study mentions glutamate's role in wiring the brain during early fetal development and its ability to elevate neuronal activity. Neurexin 1 is specifically believed to be involved in glutamate synapses, and the section of chromosome 11 has been linked to proteins that ferry glutamate across synapses. A combination of mutations in any of these genes could contribute to the likelihood of being born with autism. Competing theories linking autism to environmental factors persist. One such theory that the report mentioned, linked mercury in childhood vaccines. In a recent e-mail from Jack Samuels discussing these new findings with me, he said, "While everyone is looking for a connection of mercury to autism, the following referenced article should have encouraged scientists to look for a possible connection of the ever increasing use of free glutamic acid (MSG) in our food supply.": Paschner et al. ("Methylmercury alters glutamate transport in astrocytes." Neurochem Int. Aug-Sep, 200; 37 (23): 199-206). It states, "In the absence of glutamate, neurons are unaffected by acute exposure to mercury... Co-application of nontoxic concentrations of methylmercury and glutamate leads to typical appearance of neuronal lesions associated with excitotoxic stimulation (Matyja and Albrecht 1993.)" Although ethylmercury was used in some vaccines, it is Jack's understanding that it would have the same effect as methylmercury. Glutamate was present in many childhood vaccines where mercury was also present. I agree with Jack Samuels when he says, "One must ask if autism is directly related to a genetic defect (above) or if a predisposition for autism is inherited, a predisposition that is activated due to the ever increasing amount of processed free glutamic acid and aspartame that pregnant women are exposed to." Keep in mind, in the last 10 years, the number of diagnosed cases of autism has increased ten-fold. And as Carol Hoernlein posted on our board at www.msgmyth.com, many autistic children share many of the symptoms we (MSG reactive individuals) suffer. "20% have epilepsy. Many have food sensitivities, hyperactivity, sensitivity to light, sound, pain. They throw tantrums, have digestive distress." This comes as vindication after decades of being told that MSG (glutamate) sensitivity was "all in our heads." We look forward to more research and answers with excitement and hope." |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 3:46 am: | |
MSG kills:
"A provincial jail detainee died Tuesday after reportedly drinking an undetermined amount of monosodium glutamate, locally known as "vetsin", a day before his scheduled transfer to the national penitentiary."
http://www.visayandailystar.com/2006/March/16/topstory7.htm |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 3:23 pm: | |
Just read that again about the convict in the Phillipines....MSG can mean a quick death or slow one, like many today are experiencing...sure feels like it when you don't know what is making you so chronically ill and the doctors say you are fine, or it' all in your head. I wanted to let you all know that since the blurb about our site at Dr. Mercola's site, we are getting so many calls and book orders, we can barely keep up. We went camping for 2 nights last weekend and when we got back, we had orders for 82 books waiting for us. Most were from Amazon orders. We make a couple dollars a book through their sales, but we don't care...it's getting the message out there! It is amazing! We have had orders from two libraries. Please request your library to order one. We give discounts to them, too. Mike and I are hoping that we can send free books to many of the large city libraries....need to compile a list soon. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 6:09 pm: | |
Deb, That is wonderful. Every library, or at least every library community (that interloans books) should have a copy of your book. I will ask at my library and request that they get one. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 11:19 am: | |
Negative email I received....I think since 2000, we have received about 6 negative email...here's a typical one...you are welcome to respond to this person. I will post my response.
"From: j j <huntersthomptson420@yahoo.com>
Subject: ???
To: avenger@msgmyth.com
I am sorry to burst your bubble, but you are wrong
about msg. Yes, it is in lots of things that people
dont realize, but thats not causing the headaches. I
would explain it, but this article does it better.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14119082.400.html
Yes there is an MSG myth, but it is that it is any
worse for you than salt. If you ate just as much salt
you would also get diarrhea and a headache. I
understand that the site has many anecdotale stories,
but there are many explanations for each one
independently.
I would love to hear what you habe to say about this
link.
Sincerely,
An avid MSG fan (no affiliation to any company, just a
westerner who used to believe the anti MSG BS, but
then I looked into it. There is an exact history of
why people blame it for headaches and since many
double blind tests have been done refuting the MSG
related sicknesses.)" |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 11:28 am: | |
My response:
"
Hi,
I truly wish someone would burst my bubble so that I would not have to deal with the reactions I have with MSG and that of thousands of others we have helped over the years. It would put me out of business, and that would please me greatly. Unfortunately, I deal in reality...the reality of real tests that are not bogus or influenced by the industry, which all the major ones have been. As for the first test, I had to laugh. The placebo or control substance was gelatin powder...that's hydrolyzed animal protein, which contains a large amount of free glutamate, the form found in MSG....the gelatin capsules only add to the brew. ...and the test was done in 1994...a lot of information about MSG or glutamate has come to light since then....are you aware that the newest drugs to treat depression, obesity, sleep disorders and neurological disorders like Fibromyalgia, Alzheimers, and Parkinson's are glutamate blockers? In a test done in 1995, the control substance was aspartame...aspartame is another excitatory neurotransmitter which loads on the same brain receptors and causes the same reactions. As for the Harvard test...you have got to be kidding.....130 people??? The article was weak, and I suspect so was the test...how it was done. If a person is given pure glutamate, it will immediately enter the bloodstream and cause a fast occurring reaction. But when it is ingested with food, the digestive process tends to slow down the reaction....typically, most people react 24 hours after ingesting a meal containing MSG. That is what makes most of these "tests" uneventful and moot. Most of the testing and various systems measured are done before a full blown reaction occurs. Are you suggesting we believe that all headaches are caused by MSG?....not true...there are many causes. We deal with people who have tried everything else by the time they find us. Have you read the study done at the University of Liverpool?....it concluded that MSG, aspartame and 3 dyes played key roles in ADD in children. Another recent study in Canada discusses the role of glutamate in autism...the tests were conducted over years by many scientists from several countries. Are you aware that there have been graduate students in many universities whose lab tests proved the harmful effects of glutamate on brain cells. But when they wanted to have their findings published, they could not. Of course the reason, they learned, was that the school would stand to lose a lot of grant money from certain multi billion dollar food companies.....and scholarships. You can go to www.truthinlabeling.org and www.msgtruth.org if you ever want to learn the truth about MSG. Apparently, you are not sensitive to MSG...yet....At our site, we invite people to take a diet test to prove to themselves if they are sensitive or not. Just because you found that your problems were perhaps not MSG related does not mean that other people don't have problems with it.
Take care and I only wish you very good health.
Deb |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 9:17 am: | |
Deb, Great response, but unfortunately, there are always going to be people out there that no matter what kind of information is presented to them, they will continue to consume MSG/Aspartame and never believe the consequences. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 1:16 pm: | |
Whenever I'm in a bookstore or library and come across a book that might mention MSG I always take a look and 99.9% of the time there is no mention. But today I was mildly pleased when I came across a blurp in a book entitled "You On A Diet" (2006) page 117.
"Factoid: Monosodium glutamate (MSG), the additive found in many Chinese foods, may play a role in messing up the body's metabolic systems. A taste enhancer, MSG is used to overstimulate (some say poison) the glutamine receptors of the brain, so we sense salt and sweets more (but not bitter and sour tastes, interestingly). The downside? That may cause us to eat more and to have higher insulin levels."
I know it's not much, but more than I usually find - thought I'd share. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 11:24 am: | |
Thanks for sharing that, Dianne. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 10:22 am: | |
Did anyone watch the 'Today Show' this morning. They were discussing causes/triggers for migraines. They went down the display table talking about and showing the different foods and beverages that can be triggers. I kept waiting for her to mention MSG.....that never happened. Truly unbelievable! |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 11:46 am: | |
Fortunately MSNBC did list MSG in an article on migraines. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21596506/
Another article out today shows where MSG is hidden in fast foods.
http://www.newstarget.com/022194.html
I also just this week really started to list the ACTUAL fast food menu items contain MSG. I think folks will really be very surprised. I should actually link to the Fast Food websites themselves so they can see what other JUNK - literally is in their food. So check out MSGTruth website - foods to avoid list - send me more. I am listing only items that contain msg listed as an ingredient. It would be too much to add the ones that have HVP or natural flavors. The list is upsetting enough. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 3:32 pm: | |
Foods to avoid list:
http://www.msgtruth.org/avoid.htm |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 7:58 am: | |
Thanks, Roy.
This just in - new treatment for migraines http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21585306/
Note they now advocate memantine for migraines. Recognize it? Its the glutamate blocker used for treating Alzheimer's.
The researchers always make a definite point to say they don't know what causes it but they sure know what drug treats it. I don't believe they are ignorant of the causes of these things anymore, especially when they constantly come up with glutamate blockers to treat all these new "epidemics".
"Methinks they doth protest too much." |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 9:38 am: | |
Carol and Roy - all your links were great, but I especially liked the 'newstarget.com'. I had not been there before (or at least don't recall being there) and literally spent a couple of hours going from one link to another. I hope it is all credible info and will treat it as such unless I hear differently. Anyway, thanks to you both. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 8:37 am: | |
On Good Morning America today, I saw a segment on autism. An autistic boy had been given glutathione by injections, and he has improved, as had 2 other children given the antioxidant. His young sister was raising money needed to do more studies on the connection, and a philanthropist just donated $100,000 to help. The study is now scheduled to begin soon. I've read a little about glutathione this morning on the internet. It is produced by glutamate and cysteine and interferes with cell damage...we need to understand the connection. |
Bill S
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| | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 5:11 pm: | |
The latest Dees image
http://www.infowars.com/cartoons_10.htm#msg |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 5:37 am: | |
Who did that??? If it wasn't true, it would be even funnier! I would love to know who put that one together. Wouldn't a headline like that be wonderful?! |
Bill S
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| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 7:03 pm: | |
http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/dees1.htm
http://www.pollyticks.com/item/2728 |
Tom Fernstrom
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| | Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 6:30 am: | |
Dear NOMSGers,
Here an excerpt from a health columnist, Dr. Peter Gott, in our local paper. Many people take heed of the reader suggestions he passes along and thus if he were convinced of the dangers of MSG and Aspartame by members here, he might become a good avenue to bring awareness to the issue.
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Dear Dr. Gott:
For over 10 years I suffered with a cyclical skin problem on my left breast – intense itching, followed by a few bleeding sores that took a very long time to heal. It would stop for a short while, and then the cycle would begin again. After a few years of worrying about these sores, which did not want to heal, I visited my dermatologist, who could not really tell me what they were or how I could prevent them and the itching.
The sores were nasty, but the itching was so bad it was quite difficult to live with. I requested a biopsy, fearing that it might be some form of cancer. The results were negative, but the problem persisted until three months ago.
That’s when I read your article about a reader who suffered from severe itching on the feet as a side effect of using aspartame sweetener. I used aspartame daily to sweeten my tea and other beverages. I thought perhaps it was this product that might be causing the severe itching and sores on my breast. I stopped using aspartame immediately and switched to Stevia.
Three months after removing aspartame from my diet, no more itching, no more sores and the skin on my breast is beginning to look normal again. I am thrilled to be able to fulfill my promise and tell you that I give you complete credit for resolving my frightening medical issue. I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Dear Reader:
I’m glad I could help, and I wish you continuing good health. More and more people are sending me letters regarding aspartame and their stories of how it has adversely affected their lives. It is for that reason that I often recommend Splenda as an alternative sweetener because it is made from sugar and so far does not seem to carry all the negative side effects of aspartame.
I do not know much about Stevia because it is not Food and Drug Administration-approved as a sweetener. It is classified as a dietary supplement. It is, however, approved for use as a sweetener in many other areas of the world. Until more studies are done and its safety is verified scientifically, I do not wish to endorse it. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 8:20 pm: | |
Please read! This advice to MSG patients is appalling. We know people who are in complete remission because they avoid excitotoxins.
"Library
Brochures
Food for Thought: MS and Nutrition
by Denise M. Nowack, RD, with Jane Sarnoff
page 1 | 2
Managing fatigue
Everyone gets tired. However, certain types of fatigue, such as neuromuscular fatigue, depression-related fatigue, and MS lassitude can be particular to people with MS. These types of fatigue can be treated with medications, management strategies, and therapy. People with MS also get fatigued from everyday life—like everyone else. Fatigue may result in a decrease in appetite, activity, and less interest in food preparation. If fatigue is interfering with your activities, discuss the problem with your doctor.
Here are some tips to ensure that you get the nutrition your body needs when fatigue becomes a challenge:
· If the thought of three large meals is too much, try eating more frequently—five to six smaller meals if your appetite is small. Resist the urge for low-nutrient convenience foods. Keep your refrigerator and cupboards stocked with healthful items like string cheese, low-fat crackers, peanut butter, dried fruit or raisins, small cartons of fruit juice, individual cartons of low-fat or non-fat yogurt or cottage cheese, or bagged salads and pre-cut raw vegetables.
· Keep a stack of menus from places that deliver healthy meals!
· Make the most of your freezer. Stock up on flavorful, low-fat dinners that can be quickly microwaved or heated.
When you do shop and cook … save energy:
· Make a shopping list before you head out to the store.
· Stock up on basics. Fill your pantry with chopped tomatoes, prepared sauces, mustards, canned beans, tuna, and other items that you use regularly.
· If you have difficulty carrying food home, find delivery services, shopping services or friends and relatives who will shop from your list.
· When you cook, try to make more than you will eat in one meal so you can store or freeze the rest for another meal.
· Don’t want to chop? Packaged pre-chopped vegetables can cut down your preparation time. There are also shredded cheese, jars of minced garlic, ginger root, sliced olives, and diced peppers.
· Streamline cleanup! Paper plates can be a lifesaver when energy is low. Enlist family and friends as extra hands—and save your energy for socializing after the meal.
· How user-friendly is your kitchen? An occupational therapist can suggest ways to rearrange your kitchen to make meal preparation easier. There are utensils, storage systems, reaching aids, and adapted stovetops that increase efficiency. Ask your doctor for a referral to an occupational therapist who can help you adapt your kitchen to best meet your needs.
· Removing doors underneath cabinet countertops allows you to sit while fixing food. Just make sure any hot pipes are wrapped with insulation.
The Traditional Healthy Mediterranean Diet PyramidEating and emotions
Many people with MS struggle with depression at one time or another. When depression hits, it can have an adverse effect on motivation, sleeping patterns, eating habits, and energy. Each of these can, in turn, affect nutritional well-being.
Some people turn to food for solace when they are depressed. Certain foods create a sense of comfort. These may be old familiar favorites from childhood—a scoop of mashed potatoes, macaroni and cheese, a cup of steaming soup, a bowl of rice pudding. The danger is going overboard with these favorites. The extra fat, sugar, and calories can add up.
Other people experience a loss of appetite when they are depressed. It is important to recognize these feelings and understand how they might be affecting your health. Eating with others can help keep you connected. But if self-help strategies don’t work, seek professional help. Serious depression is a treatable medical condition."..... and may I add, often caused by MSG added to many of the foods these people have been advised to stock up on... ): |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 4:36 am: | |
This is disgusting and irresponsible! Ignorant people should not be giving out advice. They should be sent a letter. |
Deb A.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 3:08 pm: | |
Yup! |
Courtney
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 4:30 pm: | |
No, they should be taken out back and shot! Why not? They're trying to kill us, we can just beat 'em to the punch.
Kidding. I'm not really advocating killing anyone... an irate letter just doesn't seem like enough. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 5:05 am: | |
I hope this doesn't offend anyone but my take on the brochure is that the author was truly trying to be helpful. Take note that some of the advice was good: "try eating more frequently—five to six smaller meals if your appetite is small. Resist the urge for low-nutrient convenience foods. Stock up on....low-fat crackers, peanut butter, precut raw vegetables. When you do shop and cook … save energy: Make a shopping list before you head out to the store. Stock up on basics. Fill your pantry with chopped tomatoes, canned beans, tuna, and other items that you use regularly. If you have difficulty carrying food home, find delivery services, shopping services or friends and relatives who will shop from your list. When you cook, try to make more than you will eat in one meal so you can store or freeze the rest for another meal. · Streamline cleanup! Paper plates can be a lifesaver when energy is low. Enlist family and friends as extra hands—and save your energy for socializing after the meal. How user-friendly is your kitchen? An occupational therapist can suggest ways to rearrange your kitchen to make meal preparation easier. There are utensils, storage systems, reaching aids, and adapted stovetops that increase efficiency. Ask your doctor for a referral to an occupational therapist who can help you adapt your kitchen to best meet your needs. Removing doors underneath cabinet countertops allows you to sit while fixing food. Just make sure any hot pipes are wrapped with insulation."
Maybe instead of getting irate about ignorance, an informational, educational approach would be more in-line with what we are all trying to do. |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 7:23 am: | |
No offense taken. While they did have some good advice, it was also partial truths, which can be just as damaging. I think it was more about venting our frustration than it was about being irate about ignorance (though, you wouldn't know that to read it :0). I do agree that they should be informed, hence the comment about sending them a letter. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 9:29 am: | |
The national organization of nutritionists concede that MSG is a safe substance...these are trained people who have at their disposal the same tools to do some of their own independent research. They can read the same lab test results that have been available since the 1970's that prove that MSG is a dangerous toxin/food additive. But they, like most medical/nutrition professionals, decide to accept what the FDA says about MSG...that it is a SAFE substance. They gave it the GRAS (generally regarded as safe) label many years ago without much testing, as they did for aspartame, years later. Many nutritionists are sincere and are very helpful, but when it comes to what they know about MSG, it's sadly, and sometimes, tragically lacking...and I say that about most doctors and naturpaths. They want to be helpful, but they are just ignorant of the facts, or too sure of what they think they know, to listen and learn with a more open mind. Yes, you're right, Dianne, most of us would agree with some of their suggestions...it's the ignorance between the lines that glares out. When people are very ill due to MSG toxicity, paper plates are a godsend. Sure is nice when you get your energy back to be able to cook your own healthy meals and use real dishes, too! It's great to be able to vent here, isn't it.We sure need to reach more health professionals...and scientists not supported by the industry or FDA. |
Courtney
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 5:28 pm: | |
Dianne - no offense taken at all. I do believe education is the answer, but I'm new and still learning the absurdity of it all and it's making me very angry to say the least. Besides, you know what they say about good intentions. ;-)
Deb, my best friend is a nutritionist and I e-mailed her to tell her what I discovered and she didn't even write back. I think she thinks this is just some 'fad diet' I've found or something. It's something about which I'm going to have to edcate her slowly. I'm just grateful my psychiatrist is embracing all of this information with open eyes and arms. Definitely a good source of support. I have a friend whose a doctor in NY. General medicine, I believe. I'm going to write him tonight and see what he knows... he's a pretty open-minded guy, so I am hoping to open his eyes if they're not already! |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 9:18 am: | |
On one end of the issue there are those who blatantly mislead the public and advocate that MSG/Aspartame is wonderful and push it upon us, and on the other end there are those who are genuinely trying to help those in need but are ignorant, then there are those who are kind of in the gray area - they have no ill intentions but really should know better because they have the same information available to them that scientists have.
Deb, I didn't realize the brochure was written or published by the national organization of nutritionists - I absolutely didn't mean to undermine you. It has been drilled (gently) into me to always try to see each side of an issue. I'm sorry and will try to opine quietly to myself. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 3:34 am: | |
Just saw a report this morning that "According to a news study released Sunday, the scientists from Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana, found that food containing calorie-free artificial sweeteners may be fattening instead of sliming, the Los Angeles Times reports."
http://www.enews20.com/news_Artificial_Sweeteners_Cause_Weight_Gain_Researchers_Say_05727.html
Although it is not referencing Aspartame or MSG, perhaps more reports will follow and will include them. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 5:05 am: | |
Actually I should have mentioned I saw the report on CNN TV cable news, which reaches quite a few people, so it's a little more exciting than just being a published study. |
Jerry Story
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 6:08 am: | |
Another story in the news.
http://www.rense.com/general80/pers.htm |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 2:14 pm: | |
Diane, you have absolutely no need to apologize! We all understood what you said to be very true. I have always been more like you..looking for the good/truth in what has been said or written. I have become a little less patient with some people over the years mainly because of all the time I spend trying to reach and teach them...and some of them do frustrate me! ...and that includes some health professionals. I get people who call and want me to tell them that they really don't have to cook from scratch most of the time, and then there are the people who call every few months who have "gone off the wagon" for a few weeks and are very ill again and just need me to tell them to get back on board again. I hear from people who got better by avoiding excitotoxins for a few months and then they don't understand why they are sick again. Of course they either 1. haven't really read the first 80 pages of the book 2. have listened to a friend or nutritionist, or naturopath, and are taking lots of new supplements (including protein powders or bars, "green" powders, herbs...many in gel caps) 3. have decided that their doctor has a magic pill to make it all go away. Then like clockwork, they ALWAYS call after a few more months to say that they thought the drugs were making them worse, asking me to help them get off them. Don't get me wrong. I am so glad they call. I have felt all the same emotions that most of us do when we are overwhelmed at first...denial, anger, frustration, fear. Thank goodness there is a growing number of us who are spreading the word. We are starting to be taken a lot more seriously now than we were just 5 years ago. I am so proud to rub e-shoulders with you wonderful people who are so willing to check in here to support others. THANK YOU!!! |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 2:27 pm: | |
Jerry, that is a good link...very well written.
Dianne, I heard that on ABC Good Morning America today and I was so excited! I have been telling everyone in the office and emailing family who are still addicted to diet soda. This is huge. They mentioned aspartame, I believe, and said when Dianne Sawyer asked if the spokesperson really meant that people should give up their diet drinks, she was told, "YES!". |
Bill S
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| | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 7:54 am: | |
Here is an interview I uploaded last week.
Gets into how kids get "all jacked up" then they get all drugged up. And the relationship between the food and drug industry. Too bad this documentary wasn't made sooner.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2068519456033470812 |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 7:17 am: | |
Jerry, Thanks for the link above to the TV news reporter, Dick Allgire's, story. It was a good read and I emailed him to thank him and plugged this and Carol's websites.
He also included a good recipe for vegetable broth: "I now make my own vegetable broth. It's easy. Two onions, chopped, three carrots, chopped. One stalk of celery, chopped. Six cloves of garlic. Drizzle some olive oil and toss on some sea salt. Roast in the oven until everything begins to darken and caramelize. Toss the veggies in a pot with about 8 cups of water and simmer for an hour. Strain and you have a great broth for soups...." |
Judith
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 12:27 pm: | |
Deb, it looks like some new people to the list see you as their MSG-Free Momma. They come to you when they've misbehaved and need shaping up! You have an amazing amount of patience. I'm glad to hear you're human though! Your comment about people not wanting to cook from scratch is interesting. It really is just a new system of doing things, and now I prefer this method for cooking. In the past, I simmered sauces for hours because I thought that made them taste better. Now with getting extravagent with herbs and spices, I've learned that something made in 20 minutes tastes just as good. Surely people can spare 20 minutes in their kitchen? It just takes some organization. And for those that can only eat certain foods once in a while, make it, then freeze in individual serving sizes and pull one out when you want a treat. Some of us can tolerate borderline foods as long as we don't eat them more than one day in a row. I freeze just about everything leftover and put it into other dishes I throw together on busy nights. If there is an entire serving, I freeze it for me when I don't feel like cooking and feed my family frozen pizza. They can eat it but I can't and as long as it's just once in a while, the world does not end. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 2:26 pm: | |
Great advice, Judith. I get very concerned for our young people who have been raised on store bought rotisserie chicken, pizza, big macs, top ramen and boxed macaroni and cheese. They are afraid to boil eggs! We as a nation are getting fatter, depressed, tired and unable to concentrate, and those conditions are just the tip of the iceberg. It's really time to teach our kids how to eat and how to cook real food. Someone sent an article that I thought was good. It said that back in the forties when processed foods were really beginning to be introduced, the housewives and their families were not very impressed: the bread was mostly air, the canned soups, veggies, and fruits tasted tinney and rubbery, and baked goods lacked that homey-fresh from the oven goodness. Then the new food industry lauched a campaign with ads that told women they were slaves to their kitchens and families. It took a few years, but their efforts paid off eventually. I actually have a couple very old magazines that have such ads. I was surprised to find them. Of course, now so many women work outside the home, and the food industry goes overboard to make our lives "easier", but at quite a cost to our health, I'm afraid. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 5:34 am: | |
Just saw another medical report on the "Today Show" this morning about panic attacks (which can make you feel like you are having an out-of-body experience, like you are out of control and maybe feel chest pains) and how to deal with them.
Along with a few other things:
1.) Tell yourself they are all in your head
2.) Take an antianxiety medicine
I kept thinking maybe this is the report that will mention MSG. I guess I will always remain hopeful. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 10:51 am: | |
And the drug companies get bigger and richer... |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 9:38 am: | |
Thought you might appreciate this email from Jack Samuels. He is on the forefront of the AuxiGro issue. My husband and I were just speculating about a possible connection between AuxiGro and the bee problem. Glutamate is an endocrine disrupter and is related to infertility in lab animals. It's not such a stretch to make such a theory about bees, as some might suggest:
"Deb:
We just learned that the producer of AuxiGro has not registered the product in the US for 2008. AuxiGro is no longer being distributed in our country, but, of course, farmers may still have an inventory of the product and residual amounts of AuxiGro may be in the soil of farms where AuxiGro was used.
One has to wonder if, as I theorized, the glutamic acid in AuxiGro contributed to the disappearance of bees. If I am correct, the bee disappearance problem will begin to subside in 2009, if not in 2008.
One has to wonder if the makers of AuxiGro ended distribution of AuxiGro to keep from being sued by bee keepers.
One has to wonder if they are continuing to use AuxiGro in Europe. We will attempt to find the answer to this question.
Jack"
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Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 12:00 pm: | |
And I should add, that glutamate, in excess, is dangerous and will kill most living creatures. Didn't the article about bees posted here recently say something about a protein found in the dead bees that they could not digest? I wonder if it was glutamate. AuxiGro is 29% glutamate..in free form. |
RachelleW
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 12:34 pm: | |
Very interesting in deed... |
LisaMarie
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 1:26 pm: | |
Wow Deb, I just read this. I really wish you would compose a letter to 20/20 (or if Jack would) summerizing his thoughts. They did broadcast it, so they might just be interested. Thanks for posting that! |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 12:47 pm: | |
Here's an article that was on Yahoo! today:
Food Safety: What You Need to Know
Posted Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 10:09 pm PST
Wouldn't it be great if the foods we eat were safe, healthy, and free from pesticides?
There is a lot of confusion about what is safe to eat for our own health and longevity, as well as for our planet. There are no easy answers, but here are some basic guidelines for finding foods that will nurture you and the planet.
Say No to GMOs
Genetically Modified Foods (GMO) foods - including plants and animals - have been genetically manipulated to make the plant more productive, more resistant to pests, or contain higher amounts of a certain nutrient. When these foods are made to be more productive, it is no different than using growth hormones to make a chicken lay more eggs or a cow fatten up more rapidly.
In fact, it is similar to an athlete taking steroids. They promote extremely rapid growth but have side effects down the road. It is still too early to know what the effects of GMOs; it will take several generations to see if they have harmful effects on the human body. In the meantime, request your local supermarket carry natural and organic foods. Demand that their growers and distributors label foods that have been genetically modified.
Subtract Packaged Food's Additives
Avoid highly processed and refined foods - they're stripped of critical nutrients and then the nutrients are added back into the food after processing. Sulfites, nitrates, and MSG (monosodium glutamate) are the three most common additives used in packaged foods to preserve color, prevent spoilage, and enhance flavor.
Sulfites can give rise to severe allergic reactions like asthma. Nitrates combine with amines in foods to form nitrosamines, which can lead to neurological damage or cancer. Headaches are often associated with MSG.
Other additives, including artificial colors and flavors, have been found to cause cancer in animals and cause hyperactivity in children. Shopping the perimeters of your local supermarket is your best bet to avoid packaged foods and ensure a selection of healthy, simple whole foods.
Produce Pointers
Years of shopping in over-stocked supermarkets has disconnected us from our food and its origins. Much of the produce at your supermarket has been picked weeks - or even months - before it makes its way onto the shelf.
These items are preserved by nitrogen or other artificial means that make them appear fresh; however, these foods have a low nutritional value. Farm-fresh produce comes directly from the source to your table, leaving little time in between for nutrients to be lost.
So shop at local farms stands, buying fresh, in-season organic produce. By eating locally produced foods you are lessening global warming by not buying foods that have been transported hundreds or thousands of miles to get to your dinner table.
When produce isn't organic, soak it in a large pot of cold water for five minutes, add a tablespoon of sea salt and one tablespoon of vinegar, then rinse thoroughly. You can also peel the pesticides off the outer layer of fruits and vegetables; however, keep in mind that you will lose some of the valuable nutrients in the skin.
Produce with the highest amounts of pesticide residue levels include cucumbers, peaches, and zucchini - all of which can be peeled. Some produce is best eaten only when it is organic, such as celery, cherries, grapes, strawberries, and tomatoes.
Meat Management
Conventional meat, poultry, and dairy products contain sizable amounts of pesticides, hormones, and antibiotic drugs that are harmful to your health.
In addition, commercial feed for animals is full of growth-stimulating hormones, drugs, coloring agents, and pesticides. And consider this: nearly 140,000 tons of poultry are condemned annually as unfit to eat, usually due to cancer, and yet a substantial amount is processed into animal feed.
More than 40 percent of antibiotics produced in the United States are used as animal-feed additives. The ecological result, after the animals and humans urinate and defecate the antibiotics, is the emergence of antibiotic-resistant bacteria strains that are very dangerous to our health. For your health and well-being, only buy organic and free-range animals whenever possible.
I hope you find safe, healthy foods that will nurture you in the many years to come. I invite you to visit often and share your own personal health and longevity tips with me.
May you stay healthy, live long, and live happy!
-Dr. Mao |
Becky
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| | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 10:37 pm: | |
Deb, that is good to hear about Auxigro!
Lauren, that's a good article! I can't believe they pick produce weeks or MONTHS before we buy it! I've really got to get some locally grown produce! |
Tom Fernstrom
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| | Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 7:30 pm: | |
Dear NoMSGers,
Does anyone know how the website "diggs.com" works? I heard recently that it is a good way to get information out to millions of web users and then be able to see not only the responses to the information posted, but also how many hits the information got.
May be a good way to help get the Excitotoxin message out.
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Bill S
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| | Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 6:52 am: | |
That's a great idea. I don't go there much.
Digg is well controlled by our domestic army. So don't expect any articles/videos to hit the main page though. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 3:14 pm: | |
I went to diggs.com and began searching and clicking on everything. It seemed like just another search engine, but I kept clicking and then I got to a page that made my computer freeze.....now that it is working good again, I am hesitant to go back.
But I am curious if anyone else figures it out. |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 4:43 am: | |
The Today Show is supposed to have a segment today (3/25/08)about MSG. Unfortunately, I just found out about it and I'm not at home to set it to record. If anyone catches it, I'd love to hear what they said. |
Bill S
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| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 6:45 am: | |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23791767#23791767
They did the classic "some people have sensitivity to it" angle. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 7:19 am: | |
Bill, For some reason I cannot get the link to open. How did you find it on msnbc? |
Bill S
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| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 7:46 am: | |
You probably just need to go to adobe.com and update your flash player. And the name of the clip is 5 food additives to watch. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 8:25 pm: | |
Thanks Bill. I was able to view it and, not surprisingly, was disappointed. I keep hoping someone will tell the truth. |
Tom Fernstrom
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 1:22 pm: | |
Dianne,
It all boils down to attention span.
If you watch any news program or listen to any interview, you will note that the discussion leader is always attempting to get ideas across in “bites” of information. It’s as though they have been taught that if the discussion goes on too long or with too many details, the audience will dose off and become disinterested (not to mention that air time costs money).
If you take it another step further, they might just being dealing with the fact that most of their audience already has attention deficit disorder (from the foods they are eating) and can’t understand anything if too much information is provided. Perhaps this is why we can’t get people to pay attention to the MSG message. They can’t concentrate long enough to understand.
I don’t mean this to be a joke. It’s actually a sad fact that in order for one to truly understand the damage being done by Excitotoxins, one must delve down to the molecular level as Dr. Blaylock has done in his book: “Excitotoxins: The Taste that Kills”.
I remember that when I first read his book, I was on a vacation that lasted ten days and we were traveling by houseboat on a combination of two inland rivers for more that 400 miles. Every few pages, I found myself making notations in the borders of the book and “dog earring” the pages so I wouldn’t lose track of the message being conveyed when my head would hit the table top as I dosed off. But I persisted and was able to share my gained knowledge with those other participants on this discussion board that have made such great inroads.
But I digress.
In order to get a message across, it takes perseverance and money. Those of us on this discussion board can provide the perseverance by being continuously aware of opportunities to share our knowledge and experience. One of these days, the money will come when lawyers pick up the scent of the kinds of money that can be made from suing the food industry, drug industry, insurance industry and Government over the health issues associated with these Excitotoxins.
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Dianne
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| | Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 6:58 am: | |
Tom,
I guess I never thought about it boiling down to attention span. I know your second paragraph wasn't meant to be funny, but it did strike me that way at first.
I, too, have read Dr. Blaylock's book - it was fascinating. When there are more books like this written and more professionals backing this information I believe our cause will progress. And yes, major exposure will come when the lawyers pick up the scent of money.
I have often thought how helpful it would be to have a celebrity on our side. After I saw Trace Adkins on 'celebrity apprentice' last night I read that that his 6-year-old daughter suffers from severe food allergies, and on the show he was competing to raise money for his charity, "The Food Allergy & Anaphylaxis Network" (FAAN). I wonder if he (or the charity) might be a good person to send a letter to, being that MSG can effect allergies. |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 7:07 am: | |
Hey Dianne, great minds think alike. I had heard that about Trace's daughter on the radio last week, so I sent an email to the fan club address (only one they had) and gave him the run down :0). They sent an email back saying thanks and that they would pass it on. Whether or not they do, or if he listens, is yet to be seen. |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 7:27 am: | |
On another note, I'm in the process of doing a website where I'll post my story about recovering my health, thanks to Deb. Mostly it'll be about links and information I found helpful, featuring of course Deb's and Carol's sites (no need to reinvent the wheel when more informed people have already done it).
A couple of things I'd like to do with this:
I'd like to have an "Events" page and organize things like bike rides to raise awareness about MSG. Also, I'd like to have a team and go to different biking events, such as one coming up that is a fundraiser for Autism. At both types of events, I'd have materials to hand out that provide the basic information and direct people here. This will be on the East Coast, but I thought I'd throw it out there in case anyone was interested in doing something like it in their area. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 11:14 am: | |
LaurenC,
You are on the ball! Both ideas are great.
The more websites we can have the better. How do you go about creating a website?
I don't currently participate in any sports, but will definitely mull the idea over. Grassroots is where it's at (sorry - bad grammar). I think if we all had a model to use it would become easier and easier for everyone to organize something. Like what materials to hand out, etc. |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 12:15 pm: | |
Dianne, I like your idea of having a model. A standard packet of materials to hand out(and even sell Debs books(?)) and ideas of types of events to participate in or organize. I keep a couple of copies of documents with me that lists all the symptoms and aliases, along with Deb's website. That could be a start.
And it doesn't have to be sports. It can be walking, hiking, booths at fairs, picnics, etc. Or infiltrate other fundraisers like the Autism ride I mentioned. Especially anything involving kids. If the parents are as deceived by this as I was, the kids don't stand a chance.
Setting up a website is pretty easy. I'm using Yahoo! as the web host and have my domaine name through them as well. It's about $12/month and includes the name, web hosting, and email address. If you go to http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting/ it'll walk you through it. You can download the software and it gives you templates that make it super easy. I'm not real savvy when it comes to this, but if you have any questions about it, I'll give it a shot. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 5:12 pm: | |
I'd also like to come up with a ONE page sheet with the most important facts so as to catch attention - most people will give one page a glance but if it looks like too much trouble they'll "eighty-six" it. I could hand it out when I'm at a meeting/gathering and no one would feel threatened by it - no pressure.
What do you think should be on this one-pager? Any ideas? Anyone, Deb, any ideas? |
LisaMarie
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| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 2:28 pm: | |
Dianne,
I would put, from Deb, if a food has more than 4 ingredients listed, do not buy it." Maybe tell them to pay attention to how awful they feel after eating at a restaurant--they will want to lie down, drink lots of water, and just generally feel worse than when they went to the restaurant--because of the additives in the food, not from over eating. Some of my friends have listened to me say that I can't sleep after eating out, and many have started to notice that in themselves (they still eat out---I don't get it)
When you get an outline of your page, please ask again. Thanks for what you are doing. LM |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 5:19 am: | |
I'd list at a minimum: all symptoms, examples of hidden names, and Deb's website. The back of Deb's book has a list of "Did You Know...," but lets be careful to get permission and not violate any copywrite laws. Maybe start out with a short personal story about how eliminating MSG help you. |
LisaMarie
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| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 11:03 am: | |
That is a good outline, and not too different from what Deb has on her front page. Carol also has lists on her site. There are so many hidden names that it may be hard to get all that info on one page. I wish we could think of a catch phrase to make them want to read your whole page. I love personal stories. For myself, I used to be leary of those personal stories. Second hand not as persuasive as actual facts---until you delve into it, or until it hits you personally and you are relating---or searching for what is wrong with you, then the personal stories are even more gripping. Anyone else? |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 11:59 am: | |
Does anyone know what websites state that scientists use MSG when they require fat rats? I thought a while back I saw a '.gov' site to this affect. Not that WE ALL believe our government is particularly credible but I think the general public might. If I'm going to make statements, I will need to be able to back them up. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 2:09 pm: | |
Great suggestions! The more we get the information out there, the more lives and childhoods will be reclaimed. You all are welcome to make a handout using the lists in our book or on the site and from the back of the book...just be sure to list our web site! Keep up the great work! |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 2:24 pm: | |
Thanks everyone, Maybe we can all collaborate and come up with a great one-pager that will grab attention, be easy to read, and educate.
I'll be a little busy the rest of this week, but could began working on it next week. In the meantime any suggestions or paragraphs from anyone would be great.
And Deb, absolutely I will (and always do) direct everyone to this wonderful website. |
Becky
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| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 7:50 pm: | |
Dianne,
Yes, I've seen an article - even an email that was forwarded to me about how research scientists feed msg to rats to make them fat for their obesity studies, etc. It says you can go to www.pubmed.gov and do a search for msg obese rats and all the research studies will come up... |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 4:44 am: | |
Deb, thanks for letting us use stuff from your book and we will definitely reference you and this website. Diane, I can probably start working on a draft this week and then maybe we can combine ideas. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 7:33 am: | |
LaurenC, Great!
Becky, thanks I found it. |
Karen
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 2:21 pm: | |
Holy Cow!!
Dianne, Lauren, Lisa Marie!! What a fantabulous idea!! I have been basically doing exactly what you guys are talking about, and just like Dianne said, if it's too much info, people won't pay attention. My own sister, and the rest of my family for that matter, refuses to read my emails becuase they are "so involved!".
As for the "catch phrase", I have been using: "MSG, the flavor that kills". As you all have mentioned, there is so much information, it's difficult to get it on one page.
How about just highlighting the top 2 most dangerous aspects of MSG per catagory? i.e., cardiac, retinal, autism, MS,etc etc. List the most dangerous 1 or two aspects of each catagory, then list all the pertinent websites, or any newly created website strictly related to this information, or other places people can go to find more information, including Deb's life saving book.
My biggest concern has been not only copyright laws, but at what point does giving information cross over to liabel? If we dare name names, the facts need to be backed up with solid evidence, not hear-say. If this should actually go somewhere, the bigger it gets, and the more attention it receives, the bigger target it and we become.
This is a great idea. I wonder if there's a way we could all meet to exchange ideas and go over some outlines. I'm in Las Vegas, and Los Angeles isn't far. The impact here could be monstrous. There has been an organic food convention here in the "Convention Capitol of the World", imagine a food additive or MSG convention.
I also have ideas for a chain of fresh whole food farms, and farmers markets.
I look forward to your ideas.
Karen |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 5:46 am: | |
Here's what I put for the opening paragraph of my website and maybe we could use it for this purpose. I was thinking this could go on the front of a 1/2 sheet of paper:
Do you know what's in your food?
Do you care?
What if it's making you or your children sick?
Would you want to know then?
What if it's the cause of your migraines, irregular heart beats, high blood
pressure, diabetes, chronic fatigue and more?
Now would you want to know?
If the reason was purposely hidden from you, how would you feel?
What you don't know can hurt you.
Find out more at www.msgmyth.com
On the back, I was thinking it would be good to list Deb's symptoms of MSG toxicity (courtesy of www.msgmyth.com) and a few of the common aliases. |
Karen
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| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 1:05 pm: | |
Lauren;
Those are great attention-grabbing questions. Do you have a "title" or a one or two word large print "grabber" for a heading above that paragraph?
I know this may be more expensive, but I was thinking of a tri-fold pamphlet. They are smaller, always look more "important" and professional so people are more likely to grab one. The size of each fold is smaller than a sheet or 1/2 sheet of paper, and makes the information appear to be easier to absorb so most people are more likely to read it. However, more information will actually fit on it.
I think the back is the best place to list all the symptoms of MSG toxicity, and the aliases, along with other sources of information. That way people are not immediately overwhelmed by the fact that they will have to learn something. I know I'm sounding cynical of peoples' readiness to learn something new, but having been a volunteer in many political situations, I am familiar with how apathetic and lazy people are. They mostly don't want to be bothered with anything more complicated than shopping, and are too willing to be told how to live and what to do.
Do you have your website up and running yet? I was wondering if maybe you shouldn't incorporate yourself, or a non-profit org. status, so you can attach a name or logo to your message, one that people can identify with, kind of like "Q-Tips". This might sound far-reaching, but if in the future this really turns into something big, name recognition goes very far.
I have some fairly decent graphics programs, I'll work on something, give you my email address or post it to your website, and see what you think. If you like it, I will have it printed and start passing them out where I live when the time is right.
I love this idea, I hope we can really make it a go, I think people need to know how they are killing themselves and turning their children into "Ritlin Robots" because of the trash in their food. I have been saying this for years, but never knew how right I was. |
LisaMarie
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| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:14 pm: | |
Karen and all-I have a list of foods from the boards I put together over 3 years ago, so it is not updated, but would be happy to send it to you Karen. It says you are unregistered-do you have an email?
I have a problem with the MSG, taste that kills, as so many people don't know the real name from the abbreviation. More seem to recognize monosodium glutamate-in my experience--but I know the whole word is longer. We understand MSG, the taste that kills, but I don't think people unfamiliar with all this get it. How can we say that Monosodium glutamate is killing them, without getting us into trouble, but yet make them want to read and understand and know that it is killing us? They still think the FDA is protecting us, and most don't even know MSG is a flavor enhancer, they think it is a preservative.
I love all your skilled ideas, and those questions are great!
We need a way to let them know that the food we eat on a daily basis is put out by experts in chemical companies who want to addict us, kill us and harm us-that we are all suceptable--this is just so hard to do without seeming fanatical.
"Everyday foods that kill you"
"You are not safe in any restaurant or grocery store"
"Unknown danger in our food"
"Monosodium glutamate kills rats and people-it is in most of your food!"
"Food Additive MSG causes Obesity and Illness"
It is real work to get one person to listen and want to know.
Have you seen Bill's site with the Food is Horrible and the picture. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. There is a site called a picture is worth 1,000 words. Maybe we need a picture.
Here is one for you:
http://www.worth1000.com/emailthis.asp?entry=447081
That is an excellent site---how could we get someone to do a picture for us?
Or a phrase, "Mrs. Scarlette was killed in the Dining Room by Doritos(MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE"
Okay, it's late and I am getting silly.
April is autism awareness month. So I really like your lising of the dangerous aspects in catagories. |
Karen
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| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 12:59 am: | |
LOL LisaMarie, I Love that picture! And you are correct, here I was so worried about being sued for liabel from the wording inside the pamphlet, and didn't even think about the title I had chosen. And I work for the State, do legal reports and everything, I should know better. You are absolutely correct, we have to avoid difinitive words like; danger, hazard, safe or unsafe, causes, or phrases like is caused by, etc. Unless these kinds of phrases or words are backed up by irrefutible evidence, they should be avoided. Instead, things like "can be attributed to" or "seems to" or "may be linked to". Then again, all we really need to be concerned with is getting attention and initial interest, then direct them to further information.
Hee hee, though I love the Miss Scarlett in the dining room with Doritos. Maybe we can call it "Do you have a CLUE?" LOL!! I'm gettig overhead images of a nicely dressed woman lying disheveled on the floor, surrounded by a mess of MSG junk food, clutching her chest and looking terrified. With the right font, colors, and picture (something very informitive adn suggestive, like the pic you linked to) it could be very eye-catching, and interesting enough to be compelling. And, I just happen to have experience in photography. So, we can work on that too.
You are so right, it's so difficult to spread the word without being seen as fanatical or preachy. Nobody wants to take you seriously. This is going to be a fine line, but with all our brilliance working together, I'm sure we can come up with a home run.
Great ideas, thanks!! I'll work on getting my email address where it's supposed to be!! |
LisaMarie
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| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 4:41 am: | |
Please everyone, take a look at this picture!
http://www.worth1000.com/emailthis.asp?entry=447081
Karen, I love your picture idea. Maybe add some fat little rats in there also.
"Save your money and your life, avoid processed foods."
"Processed foods exposed."
I will email my safe list to you that I got from the boards. |
Lisa Marie
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| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 5:10 am: | |
Karen,
I've been trying ot email you this link, and it shuts down my aol:
Hi Karen,
I think it is so great that you want to do this stuff. I only hope it does not fall on deaf ears.
I usually start by telling people about aspartame and splenda--that it is made by Monsanto chemical corp, and that it is really just a pile of white, absolutely tasteless powder. I say, it is not plain sugar or the equivalent--you put it in your mouth and your taste buds, which are hooked to your brain, are immediately FOOLED into thinking you are tasting something sweet. Your brain registers sweet-you may as well add flour to your food. Then I start about MSG--that they use it to kill dogs in underdeveloped countries--so they can eat those dogs. Think it takes about 2 tablespoons to kill a dog.
http://www.greenermagazine.com/articlesMSG.html
Also, go to google and type in Ronnie Cummins and Organic Consumers--last week they sent out a note which said that Walmart is supposedly putting the pressure on Monsanto (makers of aspartame and splenda) by saying they will not carry milk with Bovine Growth Hormone (also made by Monsanto)
For some reason I can't paste the link to that page. |
Ted
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| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 8:46 am: | |
Hi Deb,
Whatever happened to your msg pamphlet which used to be on the main msgmyth page? Just curious. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 3:58 pm: | |
How about "Monosodium Glutamate, Hidden But Not Forgotten" for a title. I'm using this for a new web page I'm creating. |
LisaMarie
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 4:05 am: | |
Most people just think MSG is in Chinese food, and they may have heard that it doesn't agree with some people. How can we make them associate the vague problems with themselves?
"Monosodium Glutamate Affects YOU" or "Monosodium Glutamate Affecting US ALL"
"Monosodium Glutamate Affects YOUR CHILDREN"
People usually listen more when it involves their children. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 5:33 am: | |
You're right, people usually listen more when it involves their children.
How about "Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) Is Affecting YOUR CHILDREN"
That way the people that have heard of MSG but not monosodium glutamate will know what the pamphlet is about and "Is Affecting" may conote a more immediate occurrence.
Or maybe ask A question:
"How Is Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) Affecting YOUR CHILDREN?"
"How Is Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) Affecting You and YOUR CHILDREN?" |
LisaMarie
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 12:22 pm: | |
I like that last one Dianne. |
Jerry Story
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 7:15 pm: | |
Picture of a Ferengi representing the MSG industry and some foods with MSG deceptively labeled. Caption: "Rule of Acquisition 239: Never be afraid to mislabel a product." |
Karen
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 8:49 pm: | |
You ladies are right, about the "children" card. I hate using a cheap shot though. These days, when someone wants to make a point of any kind, they always play the "kid card". I'd rather not, if at all possible. I think we can come up with something just as catchy without using that. I think it should definitely be mentioned in the body how MSG affects kids, like ADD, but not a catch line.
Hee hee, Jerry, the woman I am picturing, laying on the floor, reading a booklet with that title...
I had a bad reaction today, my brain is fried, I can't think much past all this.
More later
Karen |
LisaMarie
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| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 3:19 am: | |
Karen be sure to look at Bill's site: Thefoodishorrible.com
and his myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/thefoodishorrible
Mislabeling is so correct. Can't tell you how many times I have reacted to a product which lists 4 'safe' things.
When I tell people I have not eaten in a restaurant in almost 4 years, they look at me like I am an alien. |
Karen
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| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 3:37 am: | |
Great site, Lisa Marie, thanks. This will keep my brain busy for hours, but I'm sure will make this pamphlet thing easier. Yay!!
Karen |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 3:47 pm: | |
Someone asked about the free pamphlet that we used to have on our site...one could just download and print as many copies as they liked. We found that the man who sent me a lot of the information didn't back some of his statistics and so we decided to take it off after a few people asked for more resources. Maybe we need to just compile a new one. We would be happy to post it on the site again. That way, anyone could make as many copies as they wanted to. My husband can make it so that it can be folded in thirds, I think. If anyone wants to work together making one, please go ahead. Send it to me, and I can put in my 2 cents worth, too. I think it should be a simple explanation of what MSG is, what is does to the body and brain, and where people can find more information....it should peak their interest....and it would be good to reference any statistics or printed news reports to the publication it is from. |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 8:34 am: | |
A friend told me about this segment that was on CNN last night. It was about a polygemy (sp?) cult in Texas. It is sad about the abuse of the children, however, the social worker made the comment that the kids were all healthy, had glowing skin, no disease, no acne, and none were obese. She said they all ate raw milk, and ate fresh fruit and veggies, meats, and no unprocessed foods. The kids were placed in homes and they were requesting raw milk, fruits, nuts, veggies, etc. How great is that? Hopefully people watching will come up with 4 when they add 2 and 2. Unfortunatly, the article I found on line did not mention these comments. |
MEMorrisNJ
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 9:58 am: | |
Gourmet magazine’s Ruth Reichl and Jonah Lehrer, author of Proust Was a Neuroscientist, are on public radio (NYC) now (93.9 FM in the NY area) and are talking about umami.
Sounds like Ruth understands what it can do to us and has reactions herself but Jonah is definitely pro-MSG saying it has all been "debunked". I think you can listen to it on-line. They talk about how umami, is now at the forefront of modern cuisine. The Umami Festival runs from April 8th through April 18th at Roulette, 20 Green St. b/w Canal and Grand. For more information, go to umamifestival.com --- you are right, I will NOT attend! www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/episodes/2008/04/08 |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 10:15 am: | |
Wow, a Umami festival? They must be feeling desperate... I hope. Sounds like a good place to have an anti-MSG campaign. |
Rose
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| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 3:20 am: | |
Since you're playing Russian Roulette with your health in order to partake these foods? I'm watching commercials and readings ads, and thinking "oh my gosh", I used to believe all these things were healthy for me and my family. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 8:58 am: | |
Apparently, Dr. Mercola has made a link again to our site. I knew something was going on when I was awakened in the early morning with phone calls. Then a woman asked if this was the place she could order the MSG book. I turned on the computer and saw that we had received 19 book orders as of midnight until 8 this morning! Wow, and the day is just beginning.I just checked his site and he has posted an article about Whole Foods Market and how they are merging with Wild Oats. It's very critical of their buying practices and the ingredients, including MSG, in their products. MSG is even on their own bad additives list. Then Dr. Mercola adds his take on the article, mentioning that MSG is added under hidden names, and then links our site as a good place to find them. This is wonderful...so many people are fans of his...one of our orders was from Australia...we ship there pretty regularly. The Aussies must be very health conscious. |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 9:54 am: | |
That's great Deb! I know his site reaches a lot of people, so the word is definitely getting out. |
Karen
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 6:54 pm: | |
Deb;
I got that same article in my email yesterday, and saw that he had linked to your site. I thought, WOW!! How great is that? BTW, I add your link and book info to the signature of all my outgoing emails. Everyone needs to know. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 2:08 pm: | |
What a great idea....I don't even do that...now I will! Thanks, Karen! |
Bill S
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 7:55 am: | |
some more signature ideas.
This one works well on myspace. The large one gets distorted.
The codes for these are at
www.comments.talkspot.com |
Lisa Marie
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 3:56 pm: | |
LOVE it Bill. Wish we could really put that on all the McDonalds. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 8:28 pm: | |
Sure enjoyed that, Bill. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 8:35 am: | |
Just received this email about B2. This woman in the UK says it has really helped her autistic daughter. Wanted to see what you thought about it.
We use Ultra K2 by Vitamin Research Products. (some k2 is made from fermented soy, natto, i'm not sure i'd go for this sort). This particular brand isn't made from soy.
I get it in the UK from Nutricentre, it's quite expensive. But it has been the final missing link in the Cure (dare i say that word) of my daughter's autism. She is now far less sensitive to what she eats. Obviously i'm not going to do anything totally stupid like try a big mac, but within reason, her intolerance of glutamates has vanished.
I had many pieces of the puzzle but it's taken me ages to work out the answer.
1. she gets petechial / bleeding rashes when she eats the salicylates from many fruits (i,e implying a clotting problem when she eats even natural aspirins)
2. She goes dopey if she takes a glutamine supplement, and she goes dopey on a calcium supplement - as recommened by my doctors because she is dairy free.
3. She has no bifido bacteria in her gut - just heaps of pseudomonas and citrobacter (bad) Bifido make K2 for you, K2 is not the same as K1 (from green veg) and is not as useful in this particular regard i.e glutamate regulation.
So anyway, K2 is needed as you may have found on google or whatever search engine you have, for the glutamate/calcium clotting mechanism (i think the fancy term is carboxylation of glutamate to form another form of glutamate (carboxy-glutam???) which then forms a skeleton/matrix/scaffolding to hold calcium in place ie in a clot or in bone or wherever needed, and keep it out of soft tissue !!
If you can't use your glutamate or your calcium for clotting then they just swim around in your blood stream. the calcium gets deposited around your blood vessels and chokes them up leading to heart disease and the high glutamate - well we know what that does - it means you just can't tolerate any more in your diet.
Bingo - it all ties together, and the results have been remarkable.
K2 does not stay in your system very long, so take either half a capsule twice daily or one cap twice daily - My daughter (she's 13) only needs 1/2 a cap twice daily.
She can even eat corn products, baked beans, sausages and heaps of other things that sent her silly before - and she doesn't get any salicylate induced petecial/bleeding rashes anymore - so she can eat much more of the lovely brightly coloured fruits and berries.. And her heart rhythym seems a lot more settled.
I do believe your K2 levels can be checked by a doctor, but i'm in the UK and of course doctors over here are crap and don't do any tests until you're on your death bed.
Helen
Dip Nut Med |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:35 am: | |
Carol, what do you make of the K2 connection? |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 10:18 am: | |
Dr. Mercola's article "What's in that, how food affects your behavior" dated July 29, 2008 has a plug for MSGmyth.com and in the same sentence there is a link to a July 12, 2007 article "How to find hidden MSG on food labels" with a link directly to MSGmyth.com. We may soon have a flood of new visitors to help. Terrific don't you think? |
Anonymous
Posted From: 67.168.243.159
| | Posted on Monday, December 29, 2008 - 3:26 am: | |
Hello,
I've never posted here, but perhaps you folks can give me a hand. I rarely post anything on the internet. About two weeks ago I was checking Wikipedia for what some weird food additive was (can't remember the name, now) since I am highly allergic to MSG and ever since have been really concerned about other weird food additives. So I decided to check what they had to say about MSG as a comparison to see if they had their facts straight at least on that. I know for a fact MSG causes migraines in myself and many other people I know. The word "migraine" wasn't in the article anywhere. Instead, there was a limited "health controversy" section that got into some health concerns that I know little about. What bothered me tremendously is that the word "migraine" could not be found on the page. So I braved adding a sentence about this (as I said, I rarely post to the internet). I went back to check the article a few times over recent days to make sure I had done it right (no one had written me a note to change some detail or something like that).
Well, yesterday some editor removed my statement without any explanation. In asking what was going on and for constructive advise on the editing process, I somehow ended up in a debate with him and with another editor as well, who seemed absolutely determined to keep the single, very simple, very verifiable, very factual sentence off of the article. I'm currently still in the middle of a debate with them both. I have willingly compromised my "Some individuals experience migraine headaches after consuming MSG" with "Some individuals claim to experience migraine headaches after consuming MSG" (frankly, compromising on saying "claim to" really irks me but it is a much more secure position to argue). So now I'm in the middle of this debate I never wanted but I don't want to back down because frankly this could make a difference in someone's life; I know folks who suffered migraines, sometimes for many years, without considering MSG and later found it to be the culprit. Wikipedia is one of the most important sources of information on the internet (their MSG article comes up second in a google search on "MSG"), so I was rather horrified that migraines were not mentioned.
I haven't spent much time on this site and don't know much about MSG health issues other than "MSG = migraine = don't eat " (from personal experience). But I was hoping someone could help me with this Wikipedia problem. I never intended to get into a big debate with those wikipedia folks, but I seem to have landed in one. That said, it angers me to no end that I'm being asked to provide some strange scientific proof that some people claim to get migraines from MSG. We're not even debating whether people DO get migraines from MSG, we're debating whether people CLAIM to get migraines from MSG and I'm still getting statements along the lines of "you should walk away from this" and how "adults" listen to real proof or some such nonsense. How can you prove that people claim something that I hear claimed all the time? And further is listed all over the internet. And that I am claiming myself. More importantly, why should I have to? I would think that some facts don't need references if they are "duh" things. But if I need a reference to people claiming migraines can result from MSG, would there be a particular page somewhere on this site I could post to or something?
How do you think I should proceed here?
Thanks |
guruofmsg
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| | Posted on Monday, December 29, 2008 - 11:02 am: | |
Read the article below about the cover-up of hidden MSG and its health hazards. Please feel free to send it to Wikipedia if it helps: http://www.naturalnews.com/025066.html |
guruofmsg
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| | Posted on Monday, December 29, 2008 - 11:03 am: | |
Read the article below about the cover-up of hidden MSG and its health hazards. Please feel free to send it to Wikipedia if it helps:
http://www.naturalnews.com/025066.html |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Monday, December 29, 2008 - 5:13 pm: | |
Anon, Not exactly what you are looking for, but it's from the National Institutes of Health at -
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000709.htm
A lot of people get migraines -- about 11 out of 100. The headaches tend to start between the ages of 10 and 46 and may run in families. Migraines occur more often in women than men. Pregnancy may reduce the number of migraines attacks. At least 60 percent of women with a history of migraines have fewer such headaches during the last two trimesters of pregnancy.
Until the 1980s, scientists believed that migraines were due to changes in blood vessels within the brain. Today, most believe the attack actually begins in the brain itself, and involves various nerve pathways and chemicals in the brain.
A migraine attack can be triggered by stress, food, environmental changes, or some other factor. However, the exact chain of events remains unclear.
Migraine attacks may be triggered by:
Allergic reactions
Bright lights, loud noises, and certain odors or perfumes
Physical or emotional stress
Changes in sleep patterns
Smoking or exposure to smoke
Skipping meals
Alcohol
Menstrual cycle fluctuations, birth control pills
Tension headaches
Foods containing tyramine (red wine, aged cheese, smoked fish, chicken livers, figs, and some beans), monosodium glutamate (MSG), or nitrates (like bacon, hot dogs, and salami)
Other foods such as chocolate, nuts, peanut butter, avocado, banana, citrus, onions, dairy products, and fermented or pickled foods |
Patti B
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 7:56 pm: | |
I claim to have 'cured' my migraines after 10 years of suffering after discovering this website in November 2006. I read about the numerous disguised names of MSG and totally changed my eating habits and now only get occasional, less severe migraines after ingesting home made, overcooked foods which created its own glutamate. Won't be scientific enough for the Wiki-heads, but it's my story and I'm sticking to it...and sharing it with everybody within eatshot. |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Friday, January 02, 2009 - 6:49 am: | |
I don't trust the Wikipedia folks. Sometimes the "powers that be" use Wikipedia to change history on folks. I am dealing with that on another issue. Wikipedia is where revisionist history is made (up). For example - the oldest indigenous tribe (according to all the historical experts) in my state is being ignored by the Indian commission here. Look on Wikipedia, and they aren't even mentioned, but the two tribes trying to get a casino here - that aren't even indigenous and have no claim, are. Wikipedia is the favorite choice of propagandists. They can get away with quite a bit.
I would post that NIH info. That is a credible source (most of the time). I'll try to find others. The thing about Wikipedia is - everyone can contribute, and that unfortunately includes "the Glutes" (the bad guys). |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Friday, January 02, 2009 - 1:57 pm: | |
Carol,
I concur. Sometimes I find useful information on Wikipedia and return shortly thereafter only to find it's gone. When I post links to Wikipedia they should be taken with a grain of salt, as they may change from what I initially read. |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 1:24 pm: | |
Not sure if anyone saw this yet, but our good friend, John Erb has just posted a great front page article on Age of Autism about MSG and autism. You can post comments. It might be good for any folks on this board with autistic family members who have done well avoiding MSG, to add their voices to the discussion:
http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/01/his-name-was-bruce-he-was-always-ready-to-greet-me-with-a-smile-whenever-i-came-in-to-work-with-him-at-the-residential-facil.html |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 12:09 pm: | |
John is one of the most caring people I have met (phone, email). What a privilege it is for Mike and I to "rub shoulders" with people like him and Carol and others who give so much of their time and energy to sound the alarm. I know that the subject in John's article would be proud of him, too.
Thanks for posting the link, Carol. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 8:32 am: | |
Carol, Taken from the article (from your link) this statement could perhaps apply to the reason Alzheimer's patients have been found with high levels of aluminum in their brain....right?
"High levels of MSG reduces the liver’s production of Cysteine. This leads to a reduction in Glutathione which aids in the removal of heavy metals in the body. With less Glutathione, the metals collect in the body. High Mercury would then be a symptom of Autism, and not the cause." |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 4:11 pm: | |
Found it! This is what I wanted for a friend. She is having a glutathione drip every week at her doctor's office..to remove the heavy metal build up in her body. She is also taking acetyl l-cysteine as a supplement. This may be all good, but if she continues to eat foods high in glutamate, what good will it do her in the long run? I printed this information up for her. Hope it helps her take a second look at MSG. |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 4:15 am: | |
Deb A., I thought I remembered reading to stay away from cysteine, does that apply to acetyl l-cysteine? |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 8:43 am: | |
I can't answer that, as I am not aware of the chemical differences of the two. I am assuming that they are different, but research is required. The l-cysteine added to crackers, tortillas, and other items I have seen it in, may be more dangerous than the acetyl form, but we need more information. |
Jennifer
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| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 12:18 pm: | |
In Dr. Blaylock's book, The Taste That Kills, there is an explanation in the back of some items that help reduce glutamate toxicity, and N-acetyl-cysteine was listed, or one of the variants. L-cysteine was bad in his book. I don't have it here with me, so I can't look it up.
Jennifer |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 4:33 pm: | |
Thanks, Jennifer! Good to have Dr. Blaylock's reference. |
Tom Fernstrom
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 11:18 am: | |
Dear NoMSGers,
Just a couple of thoughts and a question.
1) Where do you think we could take our combined knowledge with regard to Excitotoxin health related issues given a potentially more responsive government under Obama? In my opinion, many of the health related issues that require treatment could be eliminated (reducing health care costs substantially) if the government approached nutrition and Excitotoxin elimination as a resolve. Is it possible to get some of our more reknown members to join the ranks of the new President's health care reform team?
2) There is a local Autism home care organization in my area. Since I am not that familiar with Autism but am aware that some here have seen major improvement in autistic children through MSG abstention, is there some documentation I could share with this group to support a suggestion that they consider alternative nutritional considerations at their facility?
Thanks.
Tom |
Jennifer
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 12:01 pm: | |
Just a thought, not even good enough to be a suggestion -
It's pretty obvious to everyone health care needs reform. Once the insurance companies are bankrupt, then there will suddenly be a lot more interest in preventing illness rather than treating.
Once that happens, I bet there will be a lot of grant money.
Perhaps a group of Autistic patients and their caregivers would be interested in a test diet under the pretext of a scientific study (with grant money available)?
Jennifer |
Anonymous
Posted From: 199.209.241.14
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 9:11 am: | |
I'm not terribly optimistic about the new regime being more responsive on any issues I'm concerned about.
As for insurance companies going bankrupt? I doubt it. They're pretty good at making absolutely sure their income is going to be greater than what they pay out. |
Anonymous
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| | Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 9:25 am: | |
Put your two cents in on artificial sweeteners at http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkup/2009/02/whats_your_favorite_artificial.html You may have to register. The headline was Artificial Sweeteners: They're enough to give some people a headache. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 2:42 pm: | |
This was sent to me by a doctor. Hope it will add to our growing knowledge about food additives: Earlier in his e mail, he criticized that we do not differentiate the difference between natural glutamate vs. factory created glutamate or MSG. I believe we do, but his information is good. I had a hard time understanding his reference to "emotional pleas", but he's entitled to his opinion. We sure need less people who prefer to rant and more who are willing to do something for the cause, but I appreciate his concern. Here goes:
"The truth of the matter is that the glutamic acid found in unprocessed, unadulterated, and/or unfermented food and in the human body is composed of one form of a single amino acid, L-glutamic acid, and nothing else. In contrast, the glutamic acid that is freed from protein through a manufacturing process or through fermentation (processed free glutamic acid) which is used in processed food is always composed of L-glutamic acid and contaminants that inevitably appear during fermentation or other modes of glutamic acid manufacture or processing.. In addition to the D-glutamic acid, contaminants may include, but are not limited to, pyroglutamic acid, mono and dichloro propanols, heterocyclic amines, and peptides. Mono and dichloro propanols and heterocyclic amines are carcinogenic. The consequences of the interactions of these various chemicals are unknown. ” http://www.truthinlabeling.org/manufac.html
It is my belief that we need to replace the term MSG with Synthetic MSG and clearly identify the additives that are comprised within since this more clearly focuses on the blatant poisoning of America and the careless disregard for our safety by the FDA. It is too easy for the food industry to hide behind the findings that natural MSG is not proven to be dangerous. The chemicals listed above ARE dangerous and are the culprits causing our health issues, both for those sensitive to the chemicals and those without obvious sensations.
If you are looking for the source for our rise in diabetes look no further than any food made from our food chain where beans and corn are produced. Monsanto is using the same Dixon that they incorporated in Agent Orange in Vietnam, the same chemical that has left so many veterans with life-long illnesses including diabetes. The Dixon has an eleven year half-life and only requires microscopic amounts in your body (stored in fat cells) to modify your DNA/RNA permanently. It makes cell walls thicker or the receptors weaker. In plants that causes the plant to drop its leaves due to a lack of nutrients passing through the cell walls. For humans it is reflected in elevated blood sugar, excessive insulin and the resulting poor health. Monsanto had to pay out $800 million dollars as the result of damages caused to veterans by Agent Orange.
With MSG driving the craving to satiate or false desires for more food and the likely-hood that those foods are high in corn or soybean by products rich in deadly Dixons we have a national crisis that may be far larger that the economic slump. The Roman empire died of due to the lead linings placed inside of the aqueducts which supplied water to their major cities. Lead poisonings modified behaviors and created untold illness and is considered the major contributor to its down fall. The Black plague may have been introduced to Europe through a ship carrying infected rats, but its spread was due to deplorable water supplies that were stagnate allowing the bacteria to grow and survive. Sewage in cities was comprised of throwing all waste including human waste out the window into the street often flowing into the water supply.
Where we can reflect on the Roman’s ignorance of the chemical properties of lead and might understand the inept dealings of waste and water supplies in the 14th and 15th centuries, but we cannot accept the intentional poisoning of our populace where we are treated as nothing more than a source of revenue at whatever cost. Our health is not a concern since our lack of health will be a boost to the burgeoning health care industry; why else would they not be reporting and acting on these dangers. Instead the same chemical manufactures that create the problem are offering diabetics satins (now removed from the market) that do not cure, but simply mask the problem.
Where I applaud your efforts emotional pleas do not win battles, hard logic and numbers that are difficult to refute are what can turn things around. This is not an issue of people sensitive to these chemicals, years down the road those that were unaware will have brain cells in the thousands if not hundreds of thousands that are lost creating even more problems for our society to care for and these are the lucky majority that did not feel enough pain to stop eating the poisons.
Respectfully,
Dr. John H. Glasgow"
I'm grateful to hear from any member of the medical professions. We need more of them them to take a stand and report their suspicions about MSG to government and medical institutions, and to take on independent tests. |
Lisa Marie
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 3:12 pm: | |
I personally love his stance. I think calling the processed MSG by it's realy name, Synthetic MSG, is brilliant. It is a lot like Suzanne Summers, who specifies Bio-Identical Hormones versus Synthetic Hormones. People will realte to this, I think. He is correct, the food industry could not hide behind that as well. Oh, they would put their talking heads out trying to explain why the two things are the 'same,' but I believe Dr. Glasgow is onto something.
BTW, what about what is happening on Tuesday with the Organic Labeling, and the two bills? |
Jennifer
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 7:07 pm: | |
I agree with most of what Dr. Glasgow has to say, but big advertising and propaganda is mostly based on emotional pleas. If you can convince the herd that big numbers are just too hard and should be ignored, data doesn't matter. How ironic that MSG can make you stupid too. Actually, I think it's lawyers that win battles.
Also, since I react to tomatoes, mushrooms and other natural products, I think Deb's explanation of the difference between natural vs. processed MSG is spot on.
I would like to have studies (or see the results if they've been done) that actually quantifies how much of the undesirable glutamate derivatives are in, say, the 30 most common processed food items. But I'd have to say pushing the stance that everything is SO full of the derivatives, could be misleading (an emotional plea?) since I'm not aware of actual data as such. How much is bad? 1% of the total glutamate? 10%? What's actually in processed food?
As of right now, nothing in Deb's book can be proven false. And as far as I'm concerned, ALL MSG could be troublesome for some people. I'm one of them.
Jennifer |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 9:53 pm: | |
I hope Carol H. won't mind my sharing some of her responses concerning this doctor's comments:
"Until someone does a scientific study to determine whether it is “natural” glutamate or “processed” and they can also correct for the sheer amount differences between the two, (since processed has many times more free glutamate than “natural” sources), then we HAVE to be vague. That is especially true because every human being is different. Some folks have an illness where they cannot do what someone else does normally – process phenylalanine, for example. Even NATURAL phenylalanine is a problem for someone with PKU just as NATURAL honey is a problem for a person with diabetes. The genes involved in autism, for example, indicate problems dealing with free glutamate. Not glutamate impurities, not wacky amines. Glutamate. Why do they always assume the answer is some obscure unseen possibility of a cause rather than the obvious one?
This guy may be a doctor, but he's not being being scientific here.
Most of the neuro-scientific studies we know of were done with nearly pure laboratory glutamate and they showed that it would harm animals and humans. Where are the studies done where the same AMOUNTS of “natural” glutamate show NO EFFECT?
I haven’t seen those studies yet."
Carol, you'll notice I tweaked a couple words for the sake of privacy. Had to share your input here. Thank you! |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 9:56 am: | |
Urgent!!!!!
Please take a minute and sign the petition at www.sherrybeall.com.
This is the woman who interviewed Carol, John Erb and me last Friday. She wants to be involved in this cause and it lining up more guests for her radio program, "Healthy Me"
URGENT ACTION NEEDED
This urgent message is from our correspondent, Linn Cohen-Cole on February 17, 2009:
We have less than two weeks to stop the take over the farms
and ranches., H.R. 875 and S. 425
We need to rally people immediately!
http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/t/1128/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=26714&t=
This is a petition from Health Freedom to sign to stop forced industrialization of organic farms
Now you can SEE our show on You Tube!
by visiting: http://www.youtube.com/healthyplanethme
___________________ |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 12:50 pm: | |
Interview with Sherry Beall of kpfk.org/kpfk1.m3u or www.sherrybeall.com will begin in a few minutes...Carol, John and I will be interviewed again. There will be live stream. |
Carol H
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| | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 3:25 pm: | |
I just spoke with John a short while ago and he is still in dire straights. He can no longer even access his bank accounts - the PIN has been changed. If anyone would like to learn more about how to help John in his current situation, email me at carol@msgtruth.org
The ACLU has been contacted and is currently working on his case. He is keeping a low profile and staying safely with friends. We will forward well wishes to John. He needs encouragement and support during this difficult time. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 6:28 pm: | |
Decided to repost this information:
Deb A: Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 1:50 pm: Delete PostPrint Post Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)
Interview with Sherry Beall of kpfk.org/kpfk1.m3u or www.sherrybeall.com will begin in a few minutes...Carol, John and I will be interviewed again. There will be live stream.
Carol H:
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 4:25 pm: Delete PostPrint Post Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)
I just spoke with John a short while ago and he is still in dire straights. He can no longer even access his bank accounts - the PIN has been changed. If anyone would like to learn more about how to help John in his current situation, email me at carol@msgtruth.org
The ACLU has been contacted and is currently working on his case. He is keeping a low profile and staying safely with friends. We will forward well wishes to John. He needs encouragement and support during this difficult tim |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 11:10 am: | |
Urgent! Action needed. Jack Samuels has started a great campaign. It can be found at www.truthinlabeling.org/action.html
PLEASE make your concerns known NOW! It takes just a few important minutes of your time. Please send to all your friends and family. We'll post it on our homepage and Carol, will you please do the same? |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 11:40 am: | |
Some of you have tried sending money to John Erb. For some reason, the transactions are not going through. Until we find out more, the main things he needs are more minutes on his phone card and people to buy his book, The Slow Poisoning of America via Amazon or Ebay, I believe. To add to his phone minutes, here's the info he has given us: his IMEI number is 010972072002622072 and his 2nd SIM code is 890 141 030 606 893 035 48. I really don't know if that is enough information. I am worried that John is trying to take on too many causes at this time. I tried to tell him to focus on one thing at a time. So use your own judgment when considering helping him more. We know that he is homeless and that he is trying to bring the media to his cause this way. Tonight, he is planning a press conference to outline his agenda. Since I am not sure of all that might entail, I think we need to wait and see what transpires before we ask people to send him more money. We'll post more when we learn more. He sounds safe for now and I spoke with him an hour ago. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 11:58 am: | |
Virginia Beach, VA. If anyone lives near there, you can support John and possibly find him at 400 Resort Ct. ...off of Newtown to Baker and right at NewPoint Park Condominiums...at The Pines. He said he will be near there by a tree. Some of you have mentioned surprise at John being willing to disclose so much information after his terrible experience with the police and hospital. I fear for him, but those who know him say this is the way he works to bring attention to his cause. I told him that we have worked to make The MSG Myth site and book a grassroots effort. I am concerned that he might be bringing too much of the wrong kind of attention to himself. He insists his is a grassroots level effort...I guess we all have our own definition. All of us want to save people from MSG poisoning, but we try to do it through education and I can tell you the word is snowballing, big time. Carol agrees. But we need to be careful and patient. We wish John success. We all want MSG exposed for what it is. If his plans work, that is wonderful. But none of us want him to end up in jail or a hospital again..that won't serve to help the cause and all we have tried to do. He sure needs our prayers. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 7:25 pm: | |
This sounds like a scary movie except that it's all too real.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha_6yXS2SKI |
Merlin
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 4:35 pm: | |
hey, i never posted here, but i'm furious about the show that aired today of 'food detectives' with ted allen in conjunction with popular science. we are all full of ..., it's in our heads, there is no such thing as a msg allergy. i'm really mad because i had it for about 20 years and i'm sick and tired of getting sick of food (unless i cook it myself from scratch). i urge everyone here to send them an email as in asktedallen@foodnetwork.com |
Melinda
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 4:51 pm: | |
They actually said that on the show? That msg sensitivities basically don't exist and are all in our head? Would love to see that show and more so would be interesting to know how many angry letters they get about that one. Alot of those shows have message boards - I haven't done a search yet to see if that show or Ted Allen has a message board but if he does, that'd be another place to state your opinions. |
Jennifer
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 7:58 pm: | |
I didn't watch the show, and now I'm pretty sure I don't want to. How long did they measure for symptoms? If it's around an hour or two, then they are simply copying an experiment done by the food industry a while ago. They didn't watch the subjects for two whole days, did they?
As for allergies, I suppose it all depends on your definition of "allergy".
If it's the immune system overreacting and causing a bit of havoc in your body, including the release of histamine, then no, there aren't any MSG allergies.
But if "allergy" means the symptoms caused directly by an increase of histamine, then you betcha MSG is an allergen. Glutamate can stimulate mast cells directly to release histamine.
Jennifer |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 1:24 pm: | |
Nice article on MSG by OCA, Organic Consumer Org. We can always use more exposure, especially from a trusted group like OCA.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_17608.cfm |
Dianne
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| | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 3:51 am: | |
From Dr. Mercola website http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/06/23/Big-Pharma-and-the-FDA-Suppress-the-Science-and-Ban-the-Natural.aspx
I found this FDA petition link. It probably won't do much good, but it made me feel better (like I was trying to do something).
https://secure3.convio.net/aahf/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=263
"Dear FDA Petitions 2 Petitions,
In November 2007, a 60-page report entitled FDA Science and Mission at Risk was released by the FDA. In this report, the agency admitted that it lacks the competency and capacity to keep up with scientific advances.
The FDA now admits that Americans are suffering and dying because the FDA does not have the scientific ability to ascertain if new drugs are safe or effective or to evaluate scientific claims.
Meanwhile the FDA censors the communication of scientific information and opposes or bans cheaper and often more effective natural remedies in a misguided effort to maintain an FDA-approved drug monopoly.
Some members of Congress think that giving the FDA more money will solve these problems. But the FDA report itself admits that the agency's scientific ineptitude is not solely due to a lack of money. We should not give the admittedly incompetent FDA any more tax dollars. And we should not finance it with drug company money either because then the agency no longer works solely for the public. Rather than give the failed FDA more money, give it instead a total reform and restructuring.
A reformed FDA should liberate consumers from the chains of archaic medical restrictions that cause millions of Americans to needlessly suffer and die each year. It should support, not censor and hold back, science and innovation.
This should not be viewed as a political issue. Think of what will happen when your next family member (or you) suffers a health catastrophe that cannot be cured because the admittedly incompetent FDA failed to allow or approve a safe and effective therapy.
We, the citizens whose signatures appear below, respectfully request immediate action to reform the FDA. A total overhaul is urgently needed. Everything about the FDA must be taken apart, reviewed, redefined, and recreated so that it supports, not obstructs, the mission of advancing medical science and vibrant good health for all.
Sincerely," |
Zoomer
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| | Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 12:51 am: | |
URGENT: respond to MSG-lobby in Am. Jnl. Cl. Nutrition
A new article with "cigarette science" (Jul 1st 2009):
"Can dietary supplementation of monosodium glutamate improve the health of the elderly?"
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/ajcn.2009.27462Xv1
Look at the author list and you will find Ajinomoto.
Someone with a science PhD should respond to this article with a letter to the editor ASAP. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 10:57 am: | |
Genocide! |
Tom Fernstrom
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| | Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 7:03 pm: | |
All,
Seems as though the FDA has to do some more thinkng about how they warn people about the effects of using multiple products that contain the same ingredients.
Per the below news article:
http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/healthday/2009/06/30/fda-advisers-urge-smaller-doses-of-acetaminophen.html
the FDA warns users to be aware that acetaminophen may be in so many products that overdoses of it that the FDA never considered to be safe may be causing liver disease and deaths.
Good God! Isn't that what we've been trying to tell them about MSG and Aspartame? The dosages that the FDA deem "Generally acceptable as safe" are being exceeded not only by food processors but also by individuals who consume multiple products without the knowledge of the damage they may be causing themselves. |
Di
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| | Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 12:00 pm: | |
Tom, excellent point! |
LaurenC
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2009 - 2:50 pm: | |
Did ya'll see this?!?!
http://health.yahoo.com/experts/weightloss/2200/the-surprising-ingredient-causing-weight-gain/ |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2009 - 3:40 pm: | |
Yes! I was just going to post it here. My son called me from work and so did my husband. The study has been cited in other newspapers (last year, I think), but never on Yahoo. This is great!!! |
Di
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| | Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 11:33 am: | |
LaurenC, thanks for the link. I went there and added a comment, although there were already some 3800 posts - all favorable that I saw. |
Tom Fernstrom
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| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 10:18 am: | |
Dear NoMSGers,
I ran across a Dear Abby column today that made me sit up and take notice. The text of the column was as pasted below:
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DEAR ABBY: God bless you! You've done it again. In 2001, American Ex-Prisoners of War got 600-plus responses to your printing our POW VA benefit alert in your column. You helped many former POWs and their widows get the VA benefits due them.
As of today, your July 18, 2009, column about benefits available to widows of veterans who died of ALS has generated more than 2,000 e-mails and many letters and phone calls! I will be plowing through all these e-mails for weeks to come, but I'm afraid people will be waiting too long for my responses.
That's why I'm asking you to please help me again by letting your readers know that if their veteran husband died of ALS, they should call the Department of Veterans Affairs at (800) 827-1000. This will get them to their nearest VA regional office. They should ask to speak with a service officer about their ALS claim for COMPENSATION, not pension. This will expedite the claim process.
Abby, thank you for reaching out to veterans with their service-connected health issues. God is blessing many through your unique column. -- FRED CAMPBELL, AMERICAN EX-PRISONERS OF WAR
DEAR FRED: I'm delighted that my July 18 column will help so many -- and I hope today's column will, too. Readers, please pay attention to this "heads up" because Fred is swamped!
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I was wondering what the government was doing paying "special" Veteran benefits to those veterans who had been diagnosed with ALS, so I went farther back in the Dear Abby archives to find the referred to letter of July 18, 2009 and have pasted that below:
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Dear Abby: In May 2001, you printed my letter alerting former prisoners of war and their widows to the special veterans’ benefits available to them from the Department of Veterans Affairs. The response was great; many former POWs and their dependents now have their VA benefits because of that column.
Now, as chairman of VA outreach for American Ex- Prisoners of War, I write to alert all veterans (not just former POWs) of a recent VA ruling.
On Sept. 23, 2008, Lou Gehrig’s disease, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, was made a presumptive condition for all veterans who served in our armed forces for at least 90 days.
This means that the widows of those veterans who died of Lou Gehrig’s disease in years past are eligible for the VA widows’ monthly benefit, which is very substantial. Many people are not aware that a veteran’s death due to this disease is now considered service-connected. One claim I handled recently involved an ALS death 46 years ago, in 1963.
Thank you for your help in getting the word out, Abby.
— Fred Campbell, American Ex-Prisoners
Of War
Dear Fred: I’m pleased to help you and America’s veterans once again. Readers, Fred welcomes inquiries at 3312 Chatterton Drive, San Angelo, TX 76904. He can also be e-mailed at fredrev@webtv.net.
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Do you NoMSGers think that this might be a government acknowlegement that adding MSG to military rations may be linked to ALS? |
Di
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| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 2:57 pm: | |
I doubt it. They would attribute it to something else.
In an article:
".....Doreen Lupo finds the research "frightening" that veterans are 60 percent more likely than the general population to acquire the disease.
Veterans of the 1991 Persian Gulf War are twice as likely.
Scientists however do not know what causes amyotrophic lateral sclerosis or ALS. Theories include exposure to electromagnetic fields or to toxic agents used in the Persian Gulf War, vaccinations or psychological or physical stress."
But thanks for sharing the Dear Abby articles. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, August 24, 2009 - 3:27 pm: | |
Can't tell you how "lucky" we feel that my husband was wounded and sent home from Viet Nam within 1 1/2 months of arriving...a so-called million dollar wound for more reasons that we realized at the time. The gov't would never take blame for excitotoxins in rations or beverages made with aspartame. |
Di
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| | Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 4:34 am: | |
Just saw Cindy McCain (John's wife) on the Today show being interviewed for her migraines of 15 years. She says 36% of the population have them at one time or another and that congress needs to get involved in research for a cure. Her attacks are precipated by barimetric pressure and smells. I was hoping she would say food, but....maybe she doesn't know. I am hoping that any attention to migraines will be good. |
Di
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 2:45 pm: | |
From OCA "98 Organizations Oppose Obama's Monsanto Man, Islam Siddiqui, for US Agricultural Trade Representative."
Siddiqui’s record at the U.S. Department of Agriculture and his role as a former registered lobbyist for CropLife America (whose members include Monsanto, Syngenta, DuPont and Dow), has revealed him to consistently favor agribusinesses’ interests over the interests of consumers, the environment and public health.
go to: http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_20276.cfm to take action |
Mariann
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 4:34 pm: | |
Di I sent an email against Siddiqui's being confirmed, I hope many of you here do as well. We need to keep up the pressure for clean food. Mariann |
kristy
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| | Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 3:49 pm: | |
Di, I am going there to send an email right now. Thanks for the heads up! |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 2:24 pm: | |
FDA orders widespread food recall
Salmonella found in flavor enhancer used in thousands of processed foods
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35713702/ns/health-food_safety |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 1:51 pm: | |
Hi Roy! Haven't heard from you in a bit. Thanks for posting this. Now if they would just recall all glutamate rich flavor enhancers! |
Jerry Story
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| | Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 7:32 pm: | |
"Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein (HVP) recall leaves food consumers wondering: What is this stuff?
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor"
http://www.naturalnews.com/z028323_Hydrolyzed_Vegetable_Protein_HVP.html
Read lists of ingredients. If it has anything in it that is not food, don't eat it.
The FDA (Fraud and Deception Administration) is not your friend. |
Di
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| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 3:37 am: | |
Does anyone have a more current update on Islam Siddiqui confirmation?
http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/03/04/ky-senator-jim-bunning-blocks-pesticide-lobbyist-confirmation/
KY Senator Jim Bunning Blocks Pesticide Lobbyist Confirmation
Over 100 groups are now urging the Senate to reject the nomination of top pesticide/biotech lobbyist Islam A. Siddiqui as Chief Agricultural Negotiator in the office of the U.S. Trade Representative. The Senate could, in all likelihood, gather the votes to confirm him and yet – they haven’t. One thing is holding him back, and that one thing is Kentucky Senator Jim Bunning. Bunning, who is famous for erratic and seemingly irrational behavior (like his one man stand against extending unemployment benefits this past week), is blocking Siddiqui’s confirmation. My hunch is that it’s a matter of time before he gives in and Siddiqui gets confirmed, but in the meantime, groups opposed to Siddiqui are using the extra time to express their utter horror at the thought of a CropLife lobbyist as a top U.S. official in an open letter to the Senate. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 12:44 pm: | |
Someone just called and told me that they saw an ad saying that Finland has banned MSG in their country.I need to check this out. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 12:46 pm: | |
Jerry, I'm glad you posted that link to NaturalNews. I was just going to do the same thing. It was sent to me today. Great reading. |
Di
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| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 2:05 pm: | |
Here's a sentence from the naturalnews link above.
"The FDA is so ignorant about the safety of food additive chemicals that it actually believes aspartame and MSG are safe for human consumption."
I don't believe for one minute they are ignorant. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 1:50 pm: | |
I agree, Di. They are just worried what the exposure of MSG would lead to...can you imagine what it would do to the economy as it's related to all the jobs connected with the food and drug industry?...let alone the law suits?....and the FDA's already terrible credibility? Why have so many presidents of the FDA stepped down, I wonder.
Men of conscience? |
Di
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| | Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 12:18 pm: | |
Or gone back to their high-paying, top positions in the corporate world. |
Di
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 3:46 am: | |
Here's a nice plug....look what is on Dr. Mercola's article:
"And many of Whole Foods’ canned or boxed items contain ingredients most health conscious shoppers would not expect to see, like high fructose corn syrup (which is a major source of genetically modified corn, and the number one source of calories in the US diet) and MSG (a neurotoxin. For a great resource on how to find hidden MSG, please see the website www.MSGMYTH.com for detailed listings.)" |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 3:52 pm: | |
Di, was this a recent article? It may explain for the rise in book orders recently. |
Di
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| | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 6:52 am: | |
Deb, Just to let you know there is a little kink in a board link (at least on my end) this shows up under "New way to get the word out" when you search by "last # days" but when you click on our posts, they are not there they are under "Sharing media reports..."
Anyway, yes, the article was dated March 13. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/03/13/buying-organic-how-to-tell-your-store-is-not-cheating-you.aspx |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 9:57 am: | |
Thanks Di. That's great when we get the thumbs up from Dr. Mercola. |
Di
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 12:24 pm: | |
I know we've discussed many times about the revolving door policy of the FDA and its member's past involvement with companies such as Monsanto, but I didn't know that Clarence Thomas was General Counsel for Monsanto. It goes on and on.
From OCA entitled: "Tell Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to Remove Himself from Supreme Court GMO Sugar Beet Case
J.E.M. Ag Supply v. Pioneer Hi-Bred, 534 U.S. 124 (2001) granted large biotech corporations like Monsanto extensive patent protection over genetically modified seeds. This case was authored by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, former General Counsel for Monsanto.
In Monsanto v. Geertson Seed Farms, No. 09-475, the U.S. Supreme Court will review an appellate court decision ruling that the USDA illegally approved Monsanto's GM sugar beets without determining whether organic farmers, consumers or the environment would be adversely effected.
Justice Thomas has an obvious conflict of interest and should recuse himself, but he has decided to reserve his power to rule on the GM sugar beet case.
As one blogger put it, "Fox, meet henhouse."
You can go to the OCA page http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/642/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2694 and sign a petition to ask that he recuse himself. |
kristy
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 11:10 pm: | |
Yeah, I used to laugh at conspiracy theorists and now everyone thinks I am one. Anyone that sits down and reads up on this issue can't help but see that the American people have been sold for a price. And it is still happening.
Take a look at this article written in 1999 about Monsanto's plans for GMOs: http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/1999Q4/forcing.html and then look at where we are 10 years later. Scary stuff - particularly because there is still nobody paying attention. |
Di
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| | Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 3:32 am: | |
kristy, very interesting article, but truly sad. do you find current articles of interest on this website? |
kristy
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| | Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 8:55 am: | |
Honestly, I haven't read any other articles on the site. I found this one during a search a while back specifically about GMOs. |
patrick
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 9:42 am: | |
PBS's POV to air Food Inc. at 9:00pm April 21st!!! |
Di
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 9:59 am: | |
thanks patrick, that's great. I checked the schedule for my area (slightly different than the national one as listed) to see when it will air. looking forward to finally seeing it.
http://www.pbs.org/pov/tvschedule |
Di
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 4:47 am: | |
I don't normally send out mass emails but I took this wonderful opportunity to inform all my friends that "Food, Inc." will be airing next week. Hopefully, many of them will get the chance to see it. Thanks again Patrick. |
Di
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2010 - 2:31 am: | |
Deb., You may be getting a bunch more calls/orders - There is another link from Dr. Mercola's article to "msgmyth". Great isn't it?
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/04/20/will-whole-foods-move-back-to-its-organic-roots.aspx |
Anonymous
Posted From: 121.221.250.158
| | Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 1:22 am: | |
Does anyone know is there any stockpowders that dont use msg. i know some brands claim they dont then you find it under another name any help?i LIVE IN a
AUSTRALIA |
Di
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| | Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 1:34 pm: | |
Tell Secretary Vilsack: No Genetically Modified Alfalfa!
Although it was reported as a wholesale victory for Monsanto, the recent Supreme Court decision on "Roundup Ready" alfalfa has actually put food activists in a good position to maintain the ban on Monsanto's genetically engineered GMO seeds.
The court ruled that the planting of GMO alfalfa is still illegal, but it assigned authority to the USDA to determine whether to allow some provisional planting to go forward as soon as next spring. The responsibility for maintaining a total ban on the GMO seeds -- and protecting organic crops from likely contamination -- now falls squarely on the shoulders of USDA Secretary Tom Vilsack.
The link below will let you write Vilsack regarding this.
http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/monsanto_alfalfa_vilsack/?r_by=10008-2639081-erVTz9x&rc=confemail |
kristy
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| | Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 11:18 pm: | |
Thanks for posting, Di. We need to get over there in force to show him he can't pass this thing unnoticed. I think that was the intention of the Supreme Court - put it off until no one was looking and it could pass quietly. |
carolh
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 7:16 am: | |
Guess what. They are FINALLY treating autism with the very same glutamate blocker used to treat Alzheimer's - Memantine. Here is what I posted on MSGTruth.org:
According to the article that launched the news story, "Both Alzheimer’s disease and autism share a brain malfunction involving a chemical called glutamate, which impacts the patient’s speech and interaction. " Their words. However, nobody is even going near the fact that MSG contributes to the problem in both Alzheimer's patients and autistic children, and that processed gluten and casein are very highly concentrated sources of glutamate. It is our firm belief that DIET may very well be a part of the future successful treatment - something many parents have already known for a while most doctors summarily dismissed it. The good news is, while the pharmaceutical makers are calculating how much money can be made by the sale of prescription drugs to block glutamate, a cheap and very available glutamate blocker is already widely available over the counter and has been for years. It is called Advil. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 9:34 am: | |
Yes, it's ironic that a cheap treatment available for decades gets bypassed in the pursuit of more profitable ones, while the obvious contibuting factor of diet gets ignored.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advil
They know ibuprofen helps impaired rats find their way though mazes, yet somehow they can't make the connection to it helping people think better.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070801112143.htm |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 10:12 am: | |
This large scale study of ibuprofen and Alzheimer's produced dramatic results, yet they still didn't recommend it for those at risk.
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2008/05/06/38088.aspx |
kristy
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 10:51 am: | |
carolh, I know that diet can cure autism because I belong to a group following the GAPS diet. There are several kids there that have been cured and many more that are improving every day. It is a very slow process and is hindered by the average consumer's lack of knowledge about hidden corn derivatives in our food supply (even produce and raw meat and supplements).
The problem with Advil is that they add corn derivatives to all of the OTC versions so we have it compounded (it works great!). I suggest any OTC or Rx drugs should be compounded. I think the additives used in drugs are a lot more potent than the ones in food or maybe it is just the high concentration, but whatever the deal I know we react much more intensely to additives in drugs. Any glutamate blockers the pharmaceutical companies develop will be manufactured using corn derivatives or even have them added as filler. Pharmaceutical companies are heavily dependent on GMO corn and its derivatives to function.
Roy, I doubt they will ever recommend it or changing dietary habits to minimize risk. What would that say about nursing homes and assisted living facilities and hospitals where they pump you full of glutamates at every meal? And what about the schools, colleges and military? Aren't they producing high risk individuals with their diets? If they suggested that diet contributed to alzheimer's, it would become apparent to many people that their parents were ushered down the aisle to illness by the medical professionals who were supposed to be helping them and that the agriculture, food manufacturing and pharmaceutical industries are killing us all with our elected officials' help. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 1:57 pm: | |
Yes, Kristy, it's a sin how poorly people in captivity are fed. You'd think that would be one of our nation's top priorities. |
ali
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 2:07 pm: | |
Its no better here in Europe. If you had seen the stuff my poor grandmother was expected to eat!! She had dementia and after a while living with us, it became unsafe for her and us (one too many kitchen fires!!)Everything with oxo gravy poured over it, instant potatoes (shudder!!) and then she had a stroke and they tried to feed her up with protein shakes. Its as well she was sick when she got there, because she sure as heck would have been by the time they had finished looking after her!! I think i recently read somewhere that they wanted to add msg to elderly patients hospital food to increase their appetites......??????? |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 8:11 pm: | |
Ali,
It's so painful to put someone in one of those places because you can't manage them at home any more. And poisons like oxo makes should be banned.
http://www.theoxofactor.com/products/stock-cubes/
Unfortunately, elderly patients' food is often spiked with MSG because of studies like the one linked below. All such studies indicate to me is that MSG is a contributing factor to obesity.
http://biomedgerontology.oxfordjournals.org/content/56/4/M200.abstract |
ali
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 11:38 pm: | |
Roy,
Did you notice that nowhere on the oxo site is their a list of ingredients?? Well not that i could find.
As for the other article that is just plain scary!! Elderly people eat less, fact!! They eat less because their cells arent renewing at the same rate and they are generally less mobile and need less calories. Thats the natural way of things. Its normal.
Thanks Roy, its interesting reading. |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 9:27 am: | |
my 5'1" grandma was a lifetime member of Weight Watchers. it was always a real struggle for her to keep her weight down, but for years her efforts succeeded.
she began putting on significant weight when she became too elderly to safely use a stove and began relying on frozen entrees. a few years later she had to move to assisted living, and continued to gain until her death at age 90. there were quite a few extremely heavy people at the assisted living facility (including members of the staff). i remember thinking it strange to see so many very large people in one place, none of whom appeared to be overeating.
grandma ate like a bird, yet by her death weighed around 175lbs. when the doctors told us it was "mostly retained fluids" we accepted that explanation. she wasnt very mobile either, so of course wasnt burning many calories. but honestly i really dont think she was taking very many in, either! she liked her dessert, but the portions were kept very small, and i never thought that was the problem.
looking back now, and in light of this discussion, i have to believe it was the chems in the highly processed diet that did it to her, and to her co-residents, and also to the staff at her home. i'm sure it was completely unintentional... most people simply have no clue, and i think that it is all just too big for a lot of people to even take in... i believe the blame belongs with whomever it is that keeps making these lousy decisions to add more and more chemicals to the foods and crops in the first place! surely THEY know exactly what they are doing
oxo is truly horrible by the way... mom used to keep a jar in the cupboard for soups. years later, i was cleaning out her kitchen and found the old forgotten jar at the back of the cupboard. the nasty smell when i took the lid off gave me an instant headache! ingredients did used to be listed on the bottles, this was years before i had started learning anything about health or avoiding chemicals, but i remember gagging at the smell and looking at the side of the jar to see what was IN the stuff... that might have been my first inkling that msg and ingredients i couldnt pronounce were maybe not such a good thing to have around |
kristy
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| | Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 5:54 pm: | |
That study is infuriating and just goes to show that for people with less appetite, it is more important than ever to make sure every morsel is as pure and nutrient dense as possible, not the other way around.
As for me, I truly believe food additives are the cause of obesity and diabetes for the most part. My children lost all excess weight within two months when we removed all additives from our diet. I cannot seem to lose any more weight after the initial 40 (which I think was all inflammation) but for the first time in my adult life I am not gaining any weight either. Granted, my problems have been going on for over 20 years and we have only been on a clean diet for a little over a year, so maybe I am being impatient. By the way, my children eat just as much sugar, fat, grains and protein as they always did, the only difference is the ingredients used to cook it. They did not significantly change the portion sizes or purposely avoid sweets or fatty snacks and they still lost all excess weight. It has to be the food additives. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 8:27 pm: | |
Ali,
If you put your cursor on each listed item on the left side of the page, a nutrition box opens to the right listing oxo's ingredients. |
ali
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| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 1:17 am: | |
Wow this is all interesting stuff. My grandmother, cooked everything from scratch but the minute she went into the home, her weight shot up. For the first time in her life at the age of 76 she became overweight. She loved her cakes too. All her adult life she made sponge cake with that much butter in it, it was more honeycomb than cake..heaven!! But she was never an ounce overweight.
Kisty, ive notice too that my kids lost all excess weight. The eldest and youngest didnt really have any excess weight on them, but Rosie was overweight by a little. It fell off her with a clean diets.She still eats just as much as before but all home made. She eats grain, fats and sugar just like the next kid, only difference is the lack of chemical additives. Speaks for itself doesnt it!! For me though i have the opposite problem. Ive never been big but after Isla was born the pregnancy weight stayed. I realise now that my diet was probably the worst it had ever been after her birth. Packet mixes and the likes. Three kids, no sleep and lots of quick fix meals....ooops. The weight dropped off as soon as we changed our diet. The problem i have now is trying not to lose anymore!! Ever noticed how no one will ever tell you you are overweight, but are only to quick to tell you you are underweight!!
Thanks Roy, i thought that was odd that there were no ingredients listings. I know from experience how frightening the ingredients list on these things are. |
Di
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| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 3:13 pm: | |
6/23/10 Representative Dennis Kucinich (OH) introduced H.R. 5577, the Genetically Engineered Food Right to Know Act. If enacted, this legislation would amend the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, the Federal Meat Inspection Act, and the Poultry Products Inspection Act. Specifically, it would require food containing genetically engineered material, or produced with genetically engineered material, to be labeled accordingly.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.5577:
Will try to keep on top of this. I've already contact my representative a couple of times. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 5:17 pm: | |
try this:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:1:./temp/~c111fCjqSU:e1430: |
Di
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| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 1:28 pm: | |
Roy, I tried your link and got "your search has timed out". any idea how to get there? |
ali
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| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 2:02 pm: | |
Click on "bills and resolutions" on each page until you get the chance to select bill numbers. Then select appropriate number and on the right hand side of that list that appears you will see high lighted in blue H.R.5577. Click on that and you should get to it.
Hope that helps Di |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 6:11 pm: | |
Or you could click on these links to H.R. 5577 and 5578 (and close any pop-up boxes):
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h5577ih.txt.pdf
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h5578ih.txt.pdf |
ali
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| | Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 1:26 am: | |
That works a lot better Roy. Thanks.Ignore mine Di and use Roys. |
Di
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| | Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 4:09 pm: | |
ali and roy, thanks much. if either of you see more info on this bill in the future, please post. |
Di
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| | Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 4:12 pm: | |
Deb, help!!! my last 3 posts show up in the search (by days) in the wrong subcategory, so when you click on it it takes you somewhere else. is there something i can do to avoid this? |
Debbey
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| | Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 4:54 pm: | |
Aspartame & MSG depression/fat
http://www.rense.com/general91/aspp.htm
it amazes me that they think sugar is bad and are replacing soda machines at school with only diet sodas
feel lucky to be alive---
lucky to know what made me so sick
wish everyone knew |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 2:40 pm: | |
Amen to all you have stated, Debbey! |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 3:27 pm: | |
John Erb just emailed and thought I would share what he has been up to. He is the author of "The Slow Poisoning of America". He has been working to inform the Canadian gov't and our own about MSG..and is a real fighter.
"Hi Deb, sorry to hear about your fire, but all is better now it seems.
Things are heating up on the MSG issue, it is becoming a Hot Topic.
I just met with some amazing people who are putting me in contact with wonderful resources.
Meet with a documentary film maker this weekend, and some top reporters next week.
By bringing mainstream media attention to the MSG petition at the FDA, we will be able to strike a great blow to the industry.
We are approaching the finish line Deb, Thanks for fighting so hard for so long.
I will keep you updated of things as they develop, I hope to be launching a broadcast of my dealings with high profile politicians and such, and would love to be able to call you when I am broadcasting to include your expertise.
Take care and all the best to your wonderful family.
John"
It's always good to know we have people as optimistic and dedicated as John on our side. |
Di
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| | Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 7:14 pm: | |
Thanks for sharing that. We are lucky to have him fighting for us all.
I just hope he remains cautious considering what he went through last year. |
DebA.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 5:57 am: | |
Yes, John is sometimes a bit "too" fearless...but I understand and appreciate his passion. |
Anon
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| | Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 8:17 pm: | |
A growing epidemic of the world's most common heart rhythm disorder is resulting in an alarming number of hospital admissions in Australia, according to cardiology researchers.
A research team led by Professor Prash Sanders, from the University of Adelaide and the Cardiovascular Research Centre at the Royal Adelaide Hospital, found that hospital admissions due to atrial fibrillation had more than tripled in Australia over a 15-year period.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-08/uoa-hdh082910.php
Do you think this is related to all the MSG laden Vegemite they eat? |
anon
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| | Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 8:20 pm: | |
A growing epidemic of the world's most common heart rhythm disorder is resulting in an alarming number of hospital admissions in Australia, according to cardiology researchers.
A research team led by Professor Prash Sanders, from the University of Adelaide and the Cardiovascular Research Centre at the Royal Adelaide Hospital, found that hospital admissions due to atrial fibrillation had more than tripled in Australia over a 15-year period.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-08/uoa-hdh082910.php
Do you think it is related to all the MSG laden Vegemite they eat? |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 10:08 am: | |
...i would think an important clue might be the final comment in the article which stated that: "The researchers also discovered that Indigenous Australians had greater rates of hospitalisation for this condition, and at younger ages."
historically, any time indigenous peoples begin eating a heavily westernized diet, the rates of westernized illnesses such as cardio or digestive related cancers seem to skyrocket incrementally as well... |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 12:39 pm: | |
Wow, that is quite a report. Thanks, Anon, for sharing it with us. And great remarks, bo'nana. That's what's happening in China, now...all sorts of disorders are showing sharp increases, I'm convinced for the same reasons you gave...obesity, migraine headaches, vision problems. |
carolh
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| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 7:56 am: | |
I have just had recent reports that a product sold in Canada by Foxy's Gourmet has a different label than one sold in the US. In the US, the label doesn't show MSG, but the label in Canada DOES. Please avoid these foods right now since the manufacturer is being extremely less than forthcoming with stores buying their products. Unfortunately their products are even sold at Whole Foods markets. |
patrick
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| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 9:48 am: | |
RATS...just bought organic lettuce from them...If I had known that I would not have bought it. |
carolh
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| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 11:13 am: | |
The product in question was Foxy's Gourmet Dip Mix. The lettuce is probably safe but if you want to boycott companies that use MSG and hide it in products, Foxy's Gourmet may be a good one to avoid in the future. |
DebA.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 10:40 am: | |
Carol, I think there are many more products that are not labeled for MSG or cousin chemicals. Just trust your body if you react to something, even if labels tell you otherwise. |
DebA.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 10:42 am: | |
I was doing great with the small tuna sized cans of salmon from Costco...water and salt only. The last two times I've made sandwiches out of it, I got a bad stomach/indigestion reaction. Now I have to test the Trader Joe's organic mayo...have done great with that, too. But items change, and sometimes labels don't for awhile...no company wants to toss millions of labels! |
HowardM
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| | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 12:34 pm: | |
Check it out.
Wild Pacific Seafood out of Deming, Washington.
Ingredient: Albacore Tuna...period. (and the smaller sized tuna who haven't yet had a chance to absorb lots of Mercury yet. Oh, and did I mention that it's a family business with totally dolphin friendly fishing methods?) |
DebA.
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| | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 10:48 am: | |
Thanks, Howard. Will check it out. |
kristy
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| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 2:38 am: | |
DebA., You could try some of the salmon or tuna on the corn-free list:
http://corn-freefoods.blogspot.com/2007/12/corn-free-foods-products-list-dec-2007.html
I can't find any of them around here to try so I can't give any of them a personal recommendation, but I have had pretty good luck with Wild Planet brand. It's expensive, but I don't react to it if eaten occasionally. It sounds very similar to Wild Pacific - smaller size so less mercury and sustainable fishing methods. I've also had pretty good luck with no salt added Crown Prince tuna and salmon - it's slightly cheaper but I can't find it in any of my stores anymore, though. |
carolh
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 12:13 pm: | |
I will be on Natural News Radio show tonite at 6 Pacific - 9 Eastern
Here is the link:
http://www.naturalnews.com/030046_food_poison.html |
Di
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 3:36 pm: | |
I just went to my other forum about wellness and this was posted by the moderator.
"If you're concerned about the
quality of the food you eat...
Then this show is for YOU.
Watch our video preview of the program.
(It's educational and quick)
Carol Hoernlein will break her
silence on our show about the
dangers hidden within our food supply.
Date: Thursday - Oct. 14, 2010
Time: 6 pm (PDT) / 9 pm (EDT)
Call-In #: 760-569-7676
Access Code: 815676#
Talk soon,
Jonathan Landsman, Host
NaturalNews Talk Hour" |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 1:30 am: | |
Thanks for posting this. Fascinating show, although I did miss the beginning before I realized that you had to call in to listen, not just to talk to the guests. |
LisaMarie
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| | Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 5:08 am: | |
Me too. I never figured out how to listen. Should be explained better on the site--maybe in the future |
carolh
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 6:35 am: | |
I'm sorry about that guys. My boyfriend had the same problem. I thought it was a streaming thing. You know you can always ask me a question here though or email me.
There were a lot of callers from all over the US. It was really fun. We should be doing it again soon - I will let you know when.
Funny, though, silence is not a word I associate with myself |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 1:47 pm: | |
carolh,
I caught on because I was in a teleconference before. Your experiences as a food industry insider were enlightening. I got the impression that the host was impressed and would have kept you on longer if he could. Looking forward to your next show.
Next time I will have the number and new access code next to my cell phone ready to call in and listen on speakerphone. As the show is broadcast at 9 PM on the east coast, the minutes are free there with most plans as long as the call doesn't begin before 9. |
Di
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| | Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 4:14 am: | |
Carolh, Is there a way to listen to the broadcast now? |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 8:22 am: | |
Received this yesterday and thought you would appreciate what this MD had to say:
" I refer many if not most of my patients to your website. It is very easy to convince them of their msg related symptoms after they look at your pages. I have copied the list of hidden names and posted it into a word pad format since the list doesn't copy well off of your web page as a "take along to the store" guide.
>
> thanks so much for what you do. You have helped my wife, my family, also me and also my patients. We subscribe to Blaylock and Brownstein's newsletters and often refer to them also.
> I am a retired ER doc and volunteer at an indigent clinic for people with no insurance
> Most of the years of ER were just patching people up to go back to doing what they were doing before. But as I transitioned to primary care, I realized finally, that no where in medicine do we ever treat a problem... only symptoms and we have a pill for each one. Virtually all medical education comes from the drug companies and has for the past 15 years or so. Surprise!! They want us to push their stuff! There is incredible pressure to stay on the reservation and be good little docs and do what they tell us. All that is hidden in the "standard of care" formulated by the ivory tower docs on the payroll of the drug companies paid through conducting studies and speaking honorariums.
> Oh well that is another soap box....
>
> thanks again,
> martin dixon md |
Hoteru
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| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 4:33 pm: | |
Jack Samuels has a nice article on hydrolyzed protein in the current Epoch Times, a weekly newspaper available in some areas and on line, at www.theepochtimes.com. There are also several articles by Jack in their archives, find them by entering his name in the search box, although his current article is not in there as of this afternoon. Epoch Times is a free privately printed weekly newspaper supportive of the Fulan Gung, or Fulan Da, religious group.It also has articles of general news and health articles with both Eastern and Western medical viewpoints. Glad to see this information published in as many places as possible. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 11:00 am: | |
SEND THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!
I sent this out today, hoping it would reach many more. You can do the same..either use as is, or edit as you wish, adding your own words:
"The following message was just sent to us, most likely as a result of the recently reported serious reactions by children to the flu shot....12 hospitalized and some with seizures, a typical MSG reaction. Glutamate (as in MSG) and gelatin (high in glutamate) have been used in flu shots in recent years. Researchers have tried to show that mercury in the shots are not a problem, as many people believe. Lab tests in the past have demonstrated that when a form of mercury was added to healthy tissue, it remained healthy. But when MSG was added, the cells began to change. ( Paschner et al. ("Methylmercury alters glutamate transport in astrocytes."" Neurochem Int. Aug-Sep, 200;37 (23): 199-206). "Co-application of nontoxic concentrations of methymercury and glutamate leads to typical appearance of neuronal lesions associated with excitotoxic stimulation". (Matyja and Albbrecht 1993) Factory created glutamate ( an excitotoxin which can stimulate brain cells to death)) has been a big player in the rise of modern day epidemics for the last 15 years or more. The rise in obesity, Fibromyalgia, autism, ADD, depression, acid reflux, migraine, and many neurological disorders are now being linked to the excessive use of glutamate rich additives in most of our processed foods today. Why are big drug companies like Lily devoting so much time and money into developing glutamate blockers for these disorders, which also include Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and Schizophrenia? Protect your family and yourself. Please do some research and then read those labels on your food..here's some great links to help you get started:
www.msgmyth.com
www.truthinlabeling.org
www.msgtruth.org
P.S. PLEASE send this important message to everyone you know. Someone will benefit from this free information. Most of us are reacting to glutamate already and we don't even know it.
Wishes for your good health,
Deb and Mike Anglesey
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:42:16 -0
Subject: Flu Shots/MSG Personal from Sally
Please wake up America!!!! This email concerns MSG/Flu Shots/Toxic reactions. PLEASE go to the internet and research the above subjects. You will be surprised when you research what MSG, items CONTAINING MSG, and other toxins are doing to our bodies. MSG is a poison, not an allergen. We are concerned about obesity, autism, and other ailments. I have been affected for 4 years, and was self diagnosed with severe MSG sensitivity via internet research. Approximately fifteen MD's (including Cleveland Clinic evaluation) COULD not diagnose an MSG severe reaction. I was hospitalized twice due to spiking blood pressure(210/120) and seizures. I then began to analyze food intake and found that by eliminating MSG/ingredients containing MSG (medications, supplements, food, drinks), that my reactions were less severe and/or eliminated. Many individuals, including physicians, have testified before congress regarding MSG as toxins, but received no support because of the food industry. Look into this also. Mrs. Obama should look at MSG AND ingredients with MSG, rather than just sodium, saturated fat, and calories. MSG, a food enhancer but unfortunately a poisonous toxin, causes one to want and eat more. How toxic are our bodies? Even some formulas and baby food contain MSG or ingredients that contain MSG. When does the toxicity begin???? Please do your homework. We repeatedly keep hearing news regarding autism, obesity, flu shots, and other diseases increasing. Could it be MSG/MSG ingredients? We think so. What say you?
Sally Rhodes" |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 6:12 pm: | |
Just received this email. This is a great link for research information. I did a search using the words: glutamate/obesity and came up with 30 studies...will put the link on our homepage:
http://www.BioMedSearch.com
"It has all NIH's PubMed documents, plus patents and thousands of other full-text journals are being added shortly, which will make it the most comprehensive FREE search around.
If you have a spot to add a link, that would be great.
Sincerely,
Jim R., PhD" |
carolh
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| | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 6:51 pm: | |
Hi guys! I know I'm like the prodigal daughter - but I've been really busy lately. I still love you guys and wanted to let you know I will be on Reality Sandwich in San Francisco with Julie Matthews on Thursday at noon Pacific - 3 pm Eastern. http://www.healthfullivingsf.com/radio/archive.php
We'll be talking about MSG and autism. |
ali
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| | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 11:36 pm: | |
i wonder if its possible to listen to that here in europe. Ill try. My own daughter has shown autistic signs early in life (no diagnosis or interventions). But for the fact my eldest had msg issues many years ago, i would have carried on feeding her as i was and i truly believe we would now be on the autistic spectrum. As its is, on a diet of whole foods, with no additives, flavourings, or synthetic food (and of course msg!!) she is aregular happy two year old. But one hiccup with her food and we see her spiralling that way again. |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 7:05 am: | |
ali! so glad to hear youve had such great success in finding your daughter's balance! believe me, through my experiences with my older son who is also on the Spectrum, i do know how amazing it feels to discover that FOOD is behind so much of the craziness going on. Amazing- and infuriating too!!
youve done so well to discover her triggers at such an early age... in time, as her digestive system and the rest of her body and brain matures, she will probly gain a little tolerance to a few things and it will become easier. besides as her new way of eating, and as a result LIVING, is all she will think she has ever known, i would think that would also make it that much easier for her to stay on board and not begin to sneak unhelpful 'treats' later on- it wont be nearly as much fun when she sees herself going bonkers afterward :D |
ali
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 1:00 pm: | |
Its still an ongoing battle Bo'nana. But the fact that we have weeks of normality show me clearly that with safe food there is nothing wrong with her. But we keep having the odd hiccup as im sure you can imagine. But they are few and far between now and quickly handled. Its always sleep disruption first so if we can figure what happened after the first night of sleep disruption thats it nipped in the bud. We had a rough couple of weeks with her and couldnt for the life of us figure what was wrong. No new foods, nothing!! Then my older daughter had a piece of chocolate and gave it straight back and said it tasted different and she didnt like it. Bingo!! The safe chocolate was the problem. The label reads the same but i suspect whatever they use as a natural flavouring has been changed!! Now but for her saying it tasted different i would never have got that one!!!Stopped the chocolate and within two days she was calm again. Its a minefield. So chocolate is now quite simply off the menu unless i get to the city to get organic chocolate.
YOur right, while its amazing to see that food is the problem and can be tackled its also ultimately infuriating that this should ever have even come to be. We were so fortunate to have had past experience of the same thing wiht our eldest child that we recognised the same pattern starting with her and were able to address the problem when she was just a baby. My eldest now tolerates more things. It tends to come out in him now as skin and scalp problems when his diet goes off kilter. He knows this and is pretty good at eating safe food, but hes fourteen and well, he has to take some responsibility and i can only keep the food safe at home and offer him food to take with him on outings.
My middle child who we thought had no food issues, was the biggest surprise. The change in her is astounding. No more naughtiness (well no more than the average four year old hehe) and a calmness we didnt know she had. She now makes the connection herself when she feels bad. She recently had sausages at a neighbours house and went off in tantrum mode at bedtime. I didnt know she had had sausages. The day after she calmly told me she wouldnt be eating their bad sausages again because they made her angry and to cry. WOW!!!So she already at the tender age of four knows how bad certain foods make her feel. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 8:52 am: | |
Children in Japan are dying after receiving vaccines...
http://www.naturalnews.com/031616_vaccines_Japan.html |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 7:04 am: | |
Why are the Amish healthier than most other people? Here are the not-so-surprising answers:
http://www.naturalnews.com/031782_Amish_health.html |
devo
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| | Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 11:17 pm: | |
Hi, This is my first time posting on this site. I had my first reaction to msg about 12 years ago. I made a dip from sour cream and onion soup mix. I had eaten this many many times before. But this time I felt as if strings were wrapped around my tonsils. The next day I was running out and hungry so I grabbed some carrot sticks, dipped it into the dip I made the day before and ran out. About 3 minutes later I felt the same feeling of strings being wrapped around my tonsils and then my throat felt more and more closed until I felt I couldn't breathe.
I am allergic to nuts and some medications so having an allergic reaction like this isn't new to me.
When I told my doctor what had happened to me he told me never to eat anything with msg again.
I know that I am allergic to it because a few years later I was eating a triscuit garlic flavored cracker and suddenly my throat felt tight. I looked at the box and one of the ingredients was msg, so that confirmed it.
I have been very careful since and haven't had another reaction like that again.
It is very important to read every label. I also do not eat out very much and when I go to peoples homes to eat I tell them what I am allergic to and then even when I arrive I look at all the jars and cans that they used to prepare the meal. This way I can enjoy myself when I go out. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 11:17 am: | |
Happy to have you posting here, devo. My father-in-law's throat closes off completely if he gets MSG and has to induce vomiting to breath again. My mother, unbeknownst to me, added onion soup mix to the Thanksgiving turkey dinner and I was sick for days. When we eat out at friends, I ask if I can bring my own food...that's how nervous I get after being "poisoned" by well meaning friends too many times! They know my problems with foods by now and know I don't mean any insult to their cooking skills. |
guruofmsg
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| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 6:31 pm: | |
Devo,
You would be allergic to MSG only if it were an allergen. It's a poison, so therefore you are sensitive to MSG and were poisoned by it. Please read my article when you get the chance: http://www.naturalnews.com/025066.html |
Di
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 4:21 am: | |
I think we are all aware of the dangers of GMOs. Here is a recent article (with links at the bottom to send a letter to the USDA regarding this).
"May 31, 2011
GE organisms actually become part of the bacteria in our digestive tracts and reproduce continuously inside us. But the USDA now wants to to remove all controls from GE corn and cotton! A new Action Alert.
There are no human clinical trials of genetically engineered foods. The only published human feeding experiment revealed that genetic material inserted into GE soy transfers into the DNA of bacteria living inside our intestines and continues to function. Even after we stop eating GE foods, we may still have the GE proteins produced continuously inside us."
Read the full article here:
http://www.anh-usa.org/genetically-engineered-food-alters-our-digestive-systems |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 9:11 am: | |
Thanks, DI. I sent a letter. Hope everyone else does, too. Hopefully it will make a difference like it did in Europe. |
Di
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 8:22 am: | |
From Organic Consumers Association.
Thought the White House garden comparison was interesting:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_23391.cfm
And scroll down a little bit to read the article "Organic Spies Find Ties: Organic Trade Association "Modified" By GMO Interests":
http://www.organicconsumers.org/bytes/ob280.htm |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 8:45 am: | |
I miss corn. It's not fair. Future generations will pay for the contamination.
http://www.inhabitots.com/genetically-modified-food-may-cause-long-term-sterility/ |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 8:56 am: | |
Seedbanks will preserve non-GMO varieties for posterity. They were created as insurance in case of natural disasters, diseases and war. Who would have thought they might be needed because of corporate greed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seedbank |
Di
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| | Posted on Friday, June 10, 2011 - 2:30 am: | |
Roy, you are so right, unfortunately future generations will pay big time. it is so sad what greed is doing. |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 5:55 pm: | |
i heard somewhere that the big "M-" is behind one of the world seed banks, i thought they were talking about the one in Iceland (?)
has anyone else heard this rumour or know if it might be true? |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 6:29 pm: | |
"Doomsday Seed Vault" in the Arctic
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23503 |
evelyn
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 3:10 pm: | |
I buy heirloom seeds from a grower in cottonwood,az. He sells them for a very reasonable price - compared to other heirloom seed companies and highly encourages seed collecting. Also has a fabulous variety - check them out at seedstrust.com We are enjoying tomatoes, bush beans, green and yellow squash - birds got most of my other seeds! That won't happen again next season. Also - I have my garden boxes covered. I took two 12' pvc pipes and put them corner to corner and covered with shade cloth. In the evening, I water (in addition to my automatic sprinklers) right through the shade cloth to create a little swamp cooling - now that it's getting too hot. Swamp cooler is evaporative cooling for you non-desert types. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 4:51 pm: | |
Seed Trust's seed catalog:
http://www.seedstrust.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=198&Itemid=2&TreeId=1 |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 6:17 pm: | |
favorite quote from globalresearch article...
"Anytime Bill Gates, the Rockefeller Foundation, Monsanto and Syngenta get together on a common project, it’s worth digging a bit deeper..."
thanx roy- that was the article i'd read and couldnt find again
so do we know that the allegations are true? if so... eeeeeeeek |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 1:51 am: | |
bo'nana, when it comes to powerful and destructive forces, history teaches us that they are often ignored until it is too late and many people have already suffered. |
Di
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 4:13 am: | |
Roy, WOW! I never heard any of that about the "Doomsday Seed Vault". Frightening, but thanks for the link. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 6:55 am: | |
Yes, Di, the term "Doomsday Seed Vault" is painfully ironic. Hitler would have been proud. |
Pat
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| | Posted on Saturday, June 18, 2011 - 11:23 pm: | |
While this article was timely when written in 1995, we still haven't made much progress to thwart the MSG culprit. Since then, there are add'l products available to help us cope. Here are 2 noteworthy excerpts:
Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) by Mark Gold (5/8/95)
1. The effect of damage to the hypothalamus
and other areas of the brain may not show up for years. The lucky
people are those who have acute reactions to MSG products and
avoid them before they silently cause other damage.
2, Fortunately, the potentially destructive
free radicals are absorbed by antioxidant vitamins such as C, E,
and beta carotene. Magnesium, chromium, zinc and selinium are
all very important protectors of neural cells.
http://www.holisticmed.com/msg/msg-mark.txt |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 11:16 am: | |
It's absolutely true: Many commercial breads contain an ingredient derived from human hair gathered from hair salons in China. It's called L-cysteine, and you'll find it in pizza dough, bagels, pastries and breads.
So why is there a human hair ingredient in your food? Read more in this astonishing short report:
http://www.naturalnews.com/032718_L-cysteine_commercial_bread.html |
Jerry Story
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| | Posted on Friday, October 14, 2011 - 8:12 pm: | |
This is posted on Rense.
"MSG - The Flavor Enhancer That Sickens"
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/msg-flavor-enhancer-sickens-two-ways |
Di
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 2:55 pm: | |
simply stated, easy to understand, thanks Jerry. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 2:45 pm: | |
Hi Debbie
First off,
you are probably already aware of this research..but i am passing the link on just in case you don't have it.
Free Glutamate "dysfunction" is now being linked to substance abuse issues...that sounds new to me.
I would hazard the guess that the surges in the population at large of panic/anxiety attacks, and record number of people with depression are free glutamate induced..
Isn't it amazing..I
http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2011/Glutamate-Related-Biomarkers-in-Drug-Development-for-Disorders-of-the-Nervous-System.aspx
Glutamate-Related Biomarkers in Drug Development for Disorders of the Nervous System – A Workshop
Released:
June 8, 2011
"Glutamate is the most pervasive neurotransmitter in the central nervous system. Problems with how glutamate functions in the brain have been linked to a wide variety of disorders, including schizophrenia, Alzheimer’s, substance abuse, and traumatic brain injury. Efforts to understand, treat, and prevent glutamate-related disorders can be aided by the identification of valid biomarkers—measures of biological processes that provide information about thhe state of a disease or a patient’s response to treatment. Scientifically-validated glutamate biomarkers can streamline research, increase researchers’ understanding of how glutamate-related disorders function, and accelerate the development of methods to treat and prevent these disorders.
The IOM’s Forum on Neuroscience and Nervous System Disorders held a workshop June 21-22, 2010, to explore ways to accelerate the development, validation, and implementation of glutamate-related biomarkers. Participants discussed the most promising current and emerging technologies for discovering glutamate-related biomarkers, and identified gaps in current research. In addition, participants considered possible approaches to validating biomarkers and the barriers to implementing these biomarkers in a way that would accelerate drug development. This document summarizes the workshop."
Erika |
Di
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| | Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 6:14 am: | |
Petition: Tell the White House to say NO to Dow's Agent Orange GMO corn
Now is the time to overwhelm the Federal Register with comments of opposition to deregulation of 2,4-D resistant GM corn
The public has 60 days from the publishing of Dow's petition in the Federal Register on December 27, 2011, to leave official comments of opposition to 2,4-D's deregulation. This means the comment period ends on February 27, 2012. It is vitally important that you leave an official comment in the Federal Register, because federal agencies must review and consider these before making a decision.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034553_GMO_corn_Agent_Orange_petition.html#ixzz1iVE811bX
Find petition at http://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2011/12/27/2011-33009/dow-agroscience-llc-availability-of-petition-plant-pest-risk-assessment-and-environmental-assessment |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 10:48 am: | |
So angry! Did anyone catch the reports about Morgellons disease? It was all over the news. People who have this, develop itchy, burning (like bugs under the skin) sores. Some report fine filaments growing from the skin. Get this, other symptoms reported are fatigue, joint, pain, brain fog...wonder where we've heard this before. I have had this before I found MSG to be the cause..and sulfites cause skin disorders, too. What is maddening, is that after a study on 110 women, the CDC thinks it may all be in the mind. Of course, just like Lupus and Fibromyalgia. Dismissed as crazies, these people are suffering so much. I'd like to challenge any of you here to go to the Morgellons discussion support groups and suggest to them it's being caused by MSG and sulfites and all the processed foods glutamate is hiding in. Please tell them to go to this site. PLEASE! This is an opportunity. I remember my mom scratching my dad's back so hard it would bleed...the itching burning sores. Awful. Normally, I wouldn't make such an easy jump from MSG to this order, but I HAD THIS...and many people who we have helped over the years have, too. When are scientists going to look into food. One researcher from the U of Oklahoma is doing research..had samples sent to the forensic lab in the Tulsa police dept. The filaments did not match any carpet, clothing samples...and chemical analysis, and nothing matched. The CDC said it could be carpet or clothes fibers today on ABC Good Morning America. Dr. Manny Alverez, a guest on a Fox news show, walked out onto the stage itching imaginary sores...what condescension! Here are the reports....please read to arm yourself. I can't make a difference alone. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 10:56 am: | |
Please read these reports as given today on ABC Good Morning America and Fox News:
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/01/26/mysterious-skin-condition-morgellons-not-contagious-study-says/
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/morgellons-disease-clues-mysterious-crawling-skin-fibers/story?id=15439374#.TyGv2YFAKjx |
LisaS
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| | Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 12:51 pm: | |
I just don't get how researchers don't even look into diet. Look at all the diseases that are clearly related to glutamate. They are developing drugs to block glutamate for all kinds of diseases, not just Alzheimer's but seizures, Huntington's, the list goes on.
Here's one link, which I really do like actually, because it's easier to understand than most. But, note they talk only about medications and supplements -- not diet. Argh. https://www.stanford.edu/group/hopes/cgi-bin/wordpress/2011/06/about-glutamate-toxicity/ |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2012 - 10:33 am: | |
Thanks for the link, Lisa. I just emailed them by clicking on contact...talked about their great site, and mentioned that they ignore the link between glutamate toxicity and food. I included the list of hidden sources of glutamate from our site. I smiled when I saw the words, "glutamate toxicity", because I coined that same phrase years ago...understanding that anyone else could have, too...but found it interesting. Now if they would only see the connection to food additives! Frustrating is right, Lisa..something we have had to deal with for many years. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2012 - 9:24 am: | |
Help needed! Just received this. If you know of anyone who might be able to help in this lawsuit, please let us know. I'm disappointed that Dr. Blaylock can't do it. This suit could possibly bring much needed publicity to the truth about MSG.
"Hi There,
Russell Blaylock gave me the url to your website ,very well done.
We are looking for an expert witness in a lawsuit against the Illinois Department of Corrections, to stop the serving of large amounts of soy to the inmates. As you know, soy is very high in MSG, and many of the inmates suffer from symptoms of MSG toxicity. . . such as passing out after eating.
We need someone with an MD or PhD degree to testify at this trial. I was wondering whether you would have any suggestions. (Dr. Blayloch has declined)
Thanks,
Sally
Sally Fallon Morell, President
The Weston A. Price Foundation" |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 - 12:30 pm: | |
Gave Sally information that should help her find Dr. John Olney...and a few other possibilities. Can anyone think of someone else to contact? |
Di
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| | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2012 - 9:33 am: | |
What about Carol H.? |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 11:19 am: | |
Yep..gave her Carol's site, too. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 11:20 am: | |
Thanks, Di! |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 2:30 pm: | |
This is interesting. Received it today:
"I have noticed that the msg industry pounces on many forums posts about msg dangers with very sophisticated denials. I have been amazed how rapdidly they do so on multiple health and food forums. Must have a cadre of folks employed to scour the internet.
Ever noticed this?"
I answered by saying that this has been going on for some time, but more so recently. Yes, they must have an army of "pouncers". This also means that they must feel threatened. After all, there are billions of dollars at stake if people were to believe that what they are feeding us is harmful. |
pat
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| | Posted on Monday, February 27, 2012 - 10:14 pm: | |
Occupy Our Food Supply!
THE Movement Has Begun!
Occupy Our Food Supply!
Educate yourself on Ag - Vote with your fork!
Here is the official web site.
http://understory.ran.org/2012/02/17/occupy-our-food-supply-2/
Read more on why here, in an article from Willie Nelson and Anna Lappe.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/willie-nelson/occupy-food_b_1299401.html?ref=canada&ir=Canada
Feb 27: Global day of “Occupy our food supply"
Posted on February 26, 2012 by Danielle Park
Tomorrow thousands of people will descend on our food system by participating in a Global Day of Action to Occupy our Food Supply.
Prominent thought leaders, authors, farmers and activists like Vandana Shiva, Michael Pollan, Annie & Willie Nelson, Woody Harrelson, Raj Patel, Gary Paul Nabhan, Anna Lappé, Marion Nestle, Food Inc.’s Robert Kenner and Michael Ableman are adding their voices in support of a wide-ranging series of actions across the US and the globe.
Over 60 Occupy Wall Street groups as well as environmental and corporate accountability organizations are joining in solidarity to create healthy food systems and resist corporate control of our food supply. Individuals from Brazil, Hungary, Ireland, Argentina, the United States, and beyond are planning actions on the ground which include reclaiming unused bank-owned lots to create community gardens; identifying GMO and destructive products in grocery stores with stickers; protesting at Cargill-owned hedge fund offices; doing seed exchanges in front of stock exchanges; supporting community alliances to drive away Wal-Mart and dangerous, unethical food distributors; and fighting back against Monsanto’s revolving door into the FDA via Obama.
The vision of this movement embodies the following ideas:
Resist GMOs and genetic engineering
Resist the privatization of seeds
Resist the corporate consolidation of our food system
Support family farmers
Support sustainable agriculture and local food systems
Fight the displacement of communities and forests for plantation crops like palm oil
Demand food safety
Get rid of Confined Animal Feeding Operations (CAFOs)
Encourage people to buy local produce, to cook, and eat meals together
Transform our relationship to food to know our farmer and where our food comes from
Stand up for fair and just jobs for farm workers and food workers
Make healthy, affordable, culturally-appropriate food accessible in low-income communities and communities of color
End the revolving door of biotech executives in the FDA
Support and stand in solidarity with local communities around the world who are reclaiming the food system in the name of justice and sustainability |
Di
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 3:44 pm: | |
Deb A., Earlier on this topic John Erb was mentioned. Do you know how things are going for him? |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 10:24 pm: | |
No, I don't. I haven't heard from him in a long time. I hope he's okay. I have no way to reach him. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 12:58 am: | |
Deb A, have you tried using the phone number and e-mail address on his book's website?
http://spofamerica.com/?q=node/9 |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 9:58 am: | |
No, because last time I spoke with him, he said he was using a different number..and phone cards. I should try again. Thanks, Roy. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 4:47 pm: | |
Have you tried messaging him on his facebook page? https://www.facebook.com/events/216714871722026/#!/profile.php?id=805203941
(you'll paste the whole link or you'll end up on someone else's page) |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 4:48 pm: | |
clarification: you'll have to copy and paste it |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 4:51 pm: | |
There are postings on John Erb's wall as recently as this Monday.
https://www.facebook.com/events/216714871722026/#!/profile.php?id=805203941&sk=wall |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2012 - 12:52 pm: | |
I just tried reaching him. Will see if he wants to get back to me. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 - 2:58 am: | |
Not sure if this Dr. Blaylock interview has been posted here before.
http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=8C501468CA914ABEE2D9395667D5F200 |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, March 12, 2012 - 12:32 pm: | |
Just watched this, Roy, and it's great! I would encourage all of us to send this to everyone we know. I will post it at our site, too. Thanks so much our super sleuth! |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 3:25 am: | |
You're welcome, Deb A., and let's congratulate the other sleuths on here!
Glad you're spreading this interview around. I think the interviewer was blown away by Dr. Blaylock's knowledge, too! |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 8:24 am: | |
Yes, we have so many amazing "sleuths" here who keep us informed all the time. Truly intelligent, caring individuals. Whenever I receive email from people new to the "MSG is dangerous" concept, I ALWAYS direct them to this discussion board, telling them how wonderful all of you are. We are making a difference for thousands and for each other. Thanks, guys! |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 8:28 am: | |
Just saw this site about ordering non GMO and heirloom seeds. They can be bought for storage or used any time. The site gives great information about how to plant and grow each type of seed.
http://www.non-hybrid-seeds.com/ |
Di
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 10:15 am: | |
Another great health website/forum is:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/nakedwellness/?
You will probably have to join, but it's free and they never bother you or sell your info.
There are many great health articles and how to order organic seeds (some free for seniors). I've been frequenting the above website for a couple of years and sometimes share info I've gotten from msgmyth discussion board and vice versa. |
Di
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 10:24 am: | |
Roy, That interview by Mike Adams with Dr. Blaylock was very good. He offered suggestions to mitigate MSG toxicity symptoms. One was, of course, magnesium but others were Vit E, Vit C and all antioxidants, pyruvate (I think), and something that sounded like coercidin (?). I'd like to know exactly what the last two were. Anyway, thanks for the link. |
Nana
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 3:46 pm: | |
Could it be quercetin? My nutritionist just recommended this for my food intolerances. Here is one product. http://thorne.com/Products/Antioxidants-flavonoids/Flavonoids/prd~SB330.jsp |
Di
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 6:37 pm: | |
Nana, Sure could have been, thanks. |
LisaS
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| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2012 - 10:31 am: | |
Or curcumin. A friend uses curcumin (turmeric) to combat glutamate exposure, but she said it lowered cortisol, I think. There was *some* reason we couldn't use it.
Ah, here are a couple of things...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18420184
http://www.vanguardneurologist.com/turmeric-and-brain-health/ |
Di
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| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2012 - 6:07 pm: | |
LisaS, I eat raw turmeric on occasion and it helps me with inflamation and pain. I don't know about taking it in supplement form, but have heard other people say it helps them in that form. |
Jerry Story
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| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2012 - 11:04 pm: | |
Interview with Dr. Russell Blaylock about turmeric and curcumin. 1 hour audio.
http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/audio-dr-russell-blaylock-with-dr-stanley-monteith-curcumin-tumeric-fights-cancer-tumors-neurodegenerative-brain-disorders-and-more/
http://tinyurl.com/7d2r3hd
According to Dr. Blaylock that is major mega powerful stuff.
I keep well stocked with turmeric powder in bags and I dump large quantities of it on my veggy mix that I make with my grinder. I also add some cold pressed extra virgin olive oil to the mix to help use the curcumin. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 3:41 am: | |
Jerry,
I add black pepper when spicing food with turmeric as there is evidence it may initially help with absorption.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curcumin |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 8:47 am: | |
I put tumeric powder, ginger powder, and cinnamon powder with psyllium husk powder in equal parts in a jar and shake. I add a teaspoon or two to my smoothies in the morning. It can be added to 1/3 cup of the smoothie to drink first, if you want the benefits, but don't want it to flavor the entire smoothie. Great for fiber and anti-inflammatory benefits. |
Di
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 11:52 am: | |
All good ideas, thanks. |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 4:02 pm: | |
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120308071052.htm Another scientific article about how excess glutamate is harmful - and no discussion about dietary sources. Carol Hoernlein posted this on facebook. Dr. Blaylock has been saying this for years. |
Di
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 5:18 am: | |
This is a detailed video from Jeffrey Smith on GMO’s (Genetically Modified Organisms) and legislation (HB 5117) aimed at labeling foods that contain GMO’s. He mentioned that other countries (i.e. Russia, New Zealand, China, Europe, Japan, Australia) require labeling.
It is an great presentation to explain the bill and why it is necessary. Smith's dialog begins about the 2:15 mark and runs about 15 minutes. If you don't have that much time, please just watch as much as you can, it is invaluable information - and something that you will probably want to spread to all your friends. I know I will.
The following are the same - one larger than the other.
http://responsibletechnology.org/ (scroll down the page just a bit)
http://player.vimeo.com/video/39305224?title=0&byline=0&portrait=0&autoplay=1" (This will fill the screen, but you'll need to copy and paste it) |
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