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Carol H
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 8:13 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Another article on MMR vaccine and autism. They are still NOT looking at the glutamate content of the vaccine. They'll never get it......
http://www.forbes.com/health/feeds/hscout/2004/05/20/hscout519065.html
Deb A.
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 3:16 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not to mention the unbelievable amount of glutamate kids ingest today and the amount they received in utero. It's a crime, isn't it!!!!
Anonymous
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 3:11 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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carolh
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Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 11:20 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tylenol is finally linked to autism. http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Non-food/Drug/tylenol_linked_to_autism_0805100913.html

We suspected it was because, like MSG, it reduces glutathione levels. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/10/021014072451.htm

and one of the genes for autism affects the making of glutathione from cysteine. See my chart: http://www.msgtruth.org/images/Theory%20of%20Autism-Simplified.pdf

Tylenol is given to kids when they get vaccinated. Children were 6 times more likely to get autism than those given the glutamate-blocking ibuprofen instead.
Having a glutamate containing vaccine like the MMR followed by a Tylenol chaser is a sure-fire recipe for autism in kids with the faulty gene.
kristy
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Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 9:28 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How horrifying. The fact that people are forced into vaccinating children when there are no safe vaccines available is so unfair. I'm sure if drug companies would just realize that making an additive free vaccine would make them even more money (what parent wouldn't pay extra to avoid ingredients that are linked to vaccine damaged children?), they would come around. It should be treated like organic food: if you want to pay extra for less additives, you can. If you don't think the risk warrants the extra cash, you could go with the conventional. The only thing stopping this from happening is the implication that current vaccines aren't safe. They just won't admit that.
bo'nana
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Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 9:07 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

what you say is basically true, kristy...
but equally true on the other hand, there are fundamental socio-economic injustices associated with placing a currency value onto the idea of good health, and your comment regarding organic food actually highlights just that.
not everyone can afford to 'choose to pay extra', for many of us the choice ultimately falls more along the lines of : 'do i choose to skip this meal altogether, or to accept food that i understand will make me and my children ill?'

in a runaway Free Market Economy, 'choice' is accessible to those with the financial ability to pay for it, & real freedom ultimately belongs only to the corrupt entities holding the powerful twin reins of Supply and Demand.
in other words, when price gouging becomes the accepted norm, the first to suffer are alway those on the lowest rungs. while one is obviously relieved if that doesnt personally apply yet, history assures that the inexorable march of progress ascends every financial ladder.

the american fda certainly knows this as fact... everyone, please look at Jerry Story's post and links regarding the current legal battle over raw milk. what is really at stake is Food Freedom of Choice, and if (when) raw milk finally falls to a big industry-financed federal ban... it sets the precedent many of us have been fearing for years.
bo'nana
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Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 10:00 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

btw, thank you for the vaccine info, carolh!
my older son is one of those children, and your very informative links helped me set another piece of the puzzle into place...
i feel like i finally know what happened to him when he was two, after the good doctors at kaiser did their jobs entirely too well and inadvertently doubled up on several of his vaccines. i think one of them was the MMR, too... he hasnt had any since.
even tho american scientific consensus stubbornly insists there is no link between immunizations & autism, we saw our son dramatically change before our eyes, and it has taken years of therapy and hard work (on his part as well as ours) to overcome many of his challenges. however, setbacks and struggles continue. probably, for life.

here in the states at least, there is still a legal opt-out from the vaccines for public school enrollment: there is a box at the bottom of the forms to check no immunizations, "for religious reasons". i always sign the opt-out because i figure i believe immunizations were responsible for my son entering the Spectrum, as strongly as i believe in GOD Himself.

>>As far as i know, there is NO legal requirement to be a member of, or to specify, any specific faith or organization when utilizing this option<<

altho this is another health freedom that has been undermined lately in several well-known court cases around america, for now we do still have some limited ability to make this personal ethical choice, at least.
carolh
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Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 10:25 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I guess the fact that there may be $$$$ in making a safer vaccine hasn't occurred to their greedy little minds yet, but when it does, even Paul Offit will be falling all over himself to come up with one. The opportunity to make more $$$ by making a better vaccine may be unfair at first to those of us who can't afford it, but it will drive research and commerce in the right direction. After all, Walmart is now offering organic foods.....

I am hoping that the fact that a glutathione-lowering drug like Tylenol affects autism will make the researchers look more closely at the OTHER ingredients in vaccines - like hydrolyzed gelatin that do the same thing.
ali
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Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 12:08 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bonana thats terrible. Did you not at least get an apology for the double up of vaccinations?? Not that that would help your son but.....

Here in Europe, we are continually told that there is no link between autism and vaccinations. "They" claim to know this because the mercury content was removed some years ago and autism still continues to effect more and more children. I had never personally heard about the glutamate connection until seeing the information on msgtruth.org.

After reading this thread, a thought struck me. Here they have begun innoculating children earlier and earlier. The mmr that was once given at 18months is now given at 12months. So i wondered, if the innoculations are given earlier is autism showing up earlier than the usual 18 months or older. The doctors here have always claimed that the vaccination link was nothing more than coincidence because signs of autism begin around the same time as the vaccination for mmr.

Well after a little googling and reading, i came across an article that was talking about earlier diagnosis. Doctors are now asking for childhood homevideos of autistic children to ascertain wether they can see autistic tendancies in children as babies. And it would appear they can, thus proving that mmr does not cause autism.

I was a little amazed at this, as i have a friend that is 100% sure in her mind that her autustic son is vaccine damaged. Having known her son his whole life i would agree. When he was 18 months he had his injections and suffered a horrific reaction to one. His arm opened up into a weeping ulcer at the site of the injection and within weeks he had lost his speech and his behaviour had altered dramatically. But the injection that caused the ulcer was the BCG not mmr. Though it was a matter of weeks between the two vaccinations.

Here in Europe they have now begun giving babies the BCG jab in the first week of life. I looked up the ingredients list of the BCG and it reads as follows.....
1ml of vaccine between 2-8 million units of live BCG.
Other ingredients:
Sodium glutamate
magnesium sulphate
hetahydrate
dipotassium phosphate
L-asparagine monohydrate
ferric ammonium citrate
glycerol
citric acid monohydrate
water

I think the ingredients speak for themselves and would blow out of the water the evidence of babies showing signs of autism being proof that there is no vaccine link. When are they going to start looking at glutamate in vaccines?? Surely they must be aware of this. Its wonderful they took out mercury but its not enough to make them safe. My children are all vaccinated. Thankfully they got through them relatively unscathed, though Isla had problems after the mmr,that mirrored her glutamate reactions.
Its just infuriating to realise parents are faced with the choice of taking a chance on injections not effecting their child or risking preventable disease....
ali
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Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 12:14 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bonana thats terrible. Did you not at least get an apology for the double up of vaccinations?? Not that that would help your son but.....

Here in Europe, we are continually told that there is no link between autism and vaccinations. "They" claim to know this because the mercury content was removed some years ago and autism still continues to effect more and more children. I had never personally heard about the glutamate connection until seeing the information on msgtruth.org.

After reading this thread, a thought struck me. Here they have begun innoculating children earlier and earlier. The mmr that was once given at 18months is now given at 12months. So i wondered, if the innoculations are given earlier is autism showing up earlier than the usual 18 months or older. The doctors here have always claimed that the vaccination link was nothing more than coincidence because signs of autism begin around the same time as the vaccination for mmr.

Well after a little googling and reading, i came across an article that was talking about earlier diagnosis. Doctors are now asking for childhood homevideos of autistic children to ascertain wether they can see autistic tendancies in children as babies. And it would appear they can, thus proving that mmr does not cause autism.

I was a little amazed at this, as i have a friend that is 100% sure in her mind that her autustic son is vaccine damaged. Having known her son his whole life i would agree. When he was 18 months he had his injections and suffered a horrific reaction to one. His arm opened up into a weeping ulcer at the site of the injection and within weeks he had lost his speech and his behaviour had altered dramatically. But the injection that caused the ulcer was the BCG not mmr. Though it was a matter of weeks between the two vaccinations.

Here in Europe they have now begun giving babies the BCG jab in the first week of life. I looked up the ingredients list of the BCG and it reads as follows.....
1ml of vaccine between 2-8 million units of live BCG.
Other ingredients:
Sodium glutamate
magnesium sulphate
hetahydrate
dipotassium phosphate
L-asparagine monohydrate
ferric ammonium citrate
glycerol
citric acid monohydrate
water

I think the ingredients speak for themselves and would blow out of the water the evidence of babies showing signs of autism being proof that there is no vaccine link. When are they going to start looking at glutamate in vaccines?? Surely they must be aware of this. Its wonderful they took out mercury but its not enough to make them safe. My children are all vaccinated. Thankfully they got through them relatively unscathed, though Isla had problems after the mmr,that mirrored her glutamate reactions.
Its just infuriating to realise parents are faced with the choice of taking a chance on injections not effecting their child or risking preventable disease....
ali
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Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 1:29 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

sorry for the double post, but it was showing up in another topic heading...not sure what happened there. oops!!

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