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Carol H
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 9:41 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Today there are articles about a gene related to risk of stroke. The link here is this. The gene elevates levels of leukotriene which is involved in inflammatory response. Well, glutamate induces leukotriene to increase - it's part of that whole inflammatory problem we have with MSG (the rashes, rosacea, increase in histamine - etc.) This may be exactly why young Asian adults are suffering stoke in record numbers. Who needs a gene to increase leukotriene when MSG does it for you.
Carol H
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 9:44 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It would also explain why birth control pills raise risk of stroke. Estradiol reduces taurine, the body is less protected from glutamate - leukotriene and histamine increase - stroke risk rises.
Carol H
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 3:39 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There's now even data linking depression and heart disease in women. This all points to the same conclusion. They keep asking how depression leads to heart disease instead of asking - what causes BOTH? They'll never get it.....
Deb A.
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 8:06 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We need to get this information to researchers.
But how?????? And to which ones? Certainly not some that are subsidized or hired by the food industry.
Carol H
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 1:11 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have been having some luck meeting new people who may be able to help us. I also was able to call a radio talk show in NYC this past weekend and was able to tell them why obesity rates and carb intake in the US have shot up since the early 70's - MSG. I was on long enough to bring up aspartame too.
If people ask about why the early 70's - it is because, even though MSG was added to the food supply since after WWII, it wasn't until 1956 that the Japanese actually found a better, cheaper process to make it in large amounts. And then - it wasn't till the late 1960's that MSG production really got going because of this. (By the way, the trade secret process for making MSG made its way into the plot of a James Bond movie about that time). Once it was readily available, and cheaper, the food companies started to formulate with MSG more. This would bring the start of any MSG-induced obesity epidemic up to the beginning of the 1970's. That was when it would have been in enough processed American foods to actually have an impact on our waistlines.
Deb A.
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 2:17 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We are so lucky to have you in this cause, Carol!
You are doing some great things!
Great job!
Lisa Marie
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 4:20 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Carol,
Your comments and explanations are always so informative, and I really appreciate them. I just typed in "diabetes" and found this statement from you in July 2001:

"Anonymous, the order of events is key to understanding this: Sugar causes a blood sugar surge first. Within fifteen minutes of eating sugar, one becomes sleepy and content because the blood sugar is temporarily high. The insulin comes next. It is quickly released in a flood to mop up the blood sugar surge, but it does its job too well. The blood sugar becomes lower than it was before you ate at all - in only an hour and a half. That's when you crash. That's when the hunger returns. With the hunger comes the edginess. It seems counterintuitive, but I assure you, it is not contradictory. When I was diagnosed hypoglycemic years ago, my doctor gave me a diet to follow. I was to avoid sugar like a diabetic would. Sugar is not the hypoglycemic person's friend, it is the enemy in the fight against being hungry all the time. Insulin, Type II diabetes and overeating are all related. You may know someone who is thin with these troubles, I was very thin years ago too, but my blood sugar was not in control, and neither was my adrenaline. My body was on full alert all the time. When the body becomes resistant to insulin because the body is just too generous with it, that is when the obesity and diabetes troubles begin to kick in. MSG makes a bad situation worse because, it doesn't wait for blood sugar to prompt an insulin response, it comes knocking on the pancreas' front door demanding an insulin release directly. The insulin release then prompts the hunger and edginess by dropping the blood sugar levels. What is really bad is that if sugar is not prompting the insulin release then you are GUARANTEED to be short in the blood sugar area after a good dose of MSG. There is not enough sugar around for the insulin to pack away. You not only become hungry - you are famished. You hit the absolute bottom, and you feel cranky to boot."
I am wondering if you have ever considered writing to the American Diabetes Association to see if they would let you submit a piece about MSG and blood sugar. I receive "Diabetes Forecast," their official magazine monthly. No article is as infomative as what you say here. I will post the link to the magazine online in hopes that you will contact them. Even a letter to the editor might be helpful.
Thank you for considering this. Lisa Marie
P.S. I just did a search of their site for their advertisers. Here is that link-most are for health care products:
Roy Piwovar
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 5:37 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Thanks for the history about MSG use. Now I know why I didn't start having obvious MSG reactions until the summer of 1964, when I was 11 years old. At the time I quickly identified the culprit by reading labels and comparing ingredients to see what the offending foods had in common. I have been avoiding MSG ever since.
Deb A.
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 10:49 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In addition to the insulin response, seratonin is released automatically to calm us down due to the surge of adrenaline release that always accompanies the insulin release. MSG is causing us to use up our supplies of seratonin, our "feel good" hormone, and when there is not enough seratonin to cover the domino effect of the endocrine system, we develop insomnia, headaches, depression, mood swings, rage patterns, anxiety, and the list goes on.
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