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Gerry Bush
Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 8:23 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here is a copy of an email I received from Dr. Jack Samuels, ecitotoxin expert. Though many of us are aware of the hidden dangers of MSG, many others are not. This is for those who are unaware. Corn syrup is now the sweetener of choice in most soda pops and candies, so we must take care to avoid it.

"Gerry:

We believe that most, if not all corn syrup contains some processed free
glutamic acid (MSG). In producing corn syrup, a carbohydrate, from corn,
producers do not take the time nor undertake the expense to remove all
protein. The remaining protein is broken down during production, resulting
in some processed free glutamic acid (MSG). The final product would also
contain free aspartic acid, free phenylalanine, and the free form of the
other amino acids found in corn protein.

We believe that high fructose corn syrup may be worse for an MSG-sensitive
person than is plain corn syrup because an enzyme is added to high fructose
corn syrup, further breaking down any protein that may be present.

We do not list corn syrup on our Web site, but it is listed on our addendum
of hidden sources of processed free glutamic acid (MSG) for people with
little or no tolerance for MSG. That list is available to readers of our Web
site by request.

Incidentally, corn syrup is not considered to be heart healthy.

Jack Samuels"
Deb A.
Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 9:04 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for posting that important information, Gerry! Corn syrup is a cheap alternative to sugar and permeates the processed food industry.
Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 5:57 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Having a bit of a challenge.....my children don't like honey.
What sweetners are left, Please?!!!?
Carol H
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 8:52 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Date sugar, maple syrup, fruit juice
Deb A.
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 9:32 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

White cane sugar, like C & H brand is better than corn syrup. There are organic cane sugars available, too.
Jerry Story
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 10:09 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

About sweeteners:
According to Mercola, sugar is deadly stuff. Even sweet fruit is bad.

If you want something sweet, maybe carrot juice. I put carrot juice on almost everything: taters, salads, cereals. But even carrot juice is probably a bad deal because it has too much sugar. But it has stuff in it besides sugar.
Carol H
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 6:15 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't agree that fruit is bad. It is a great way to sweeten foods. I have a hard time taking diets seriously that eliminate fruits. The carb avoidance craze will go the way of the fat avoidance craze and the grapefruit diet, and all of the other fads. If people stick to what we know here - that real food - food that is not processed - food that is fresh and does not need "enhancing" is eaten, good health just naturally follows. Fruit is a part of many of our diets here, and it is nutritious if we choose the whole fruit more frequently than just the juice. Fruit often contains Vitamin C, which helps mitigate MSG toxicity, and it supplies sugar in the form of fructose, which does not raise blood sugar levels as quickly as refined sugar does, and it does supply energy, which is needed if we do have MSG reactions, where insulin is released and lowers our blood sugar levels. Fruit is a good thing.
Deb A.
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 12:04 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here's to fresh fruits and vegetables! Most of us don't eat enough of either. I have a sweet tooth, but have been curbing it in an attempt to lose some winter weight. Instead of pastries, I enjoy apples and celery, pineapple, carrots, and mangoes,etc. Sugar is sugar, but I sure have more energy and feel better when I eat fruits and vegetables as opposed to sweets. Fructose from fruits (not the sugar that is made from corn and called fructose these days) is always better than refined sugars.
Deb A.
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 12:11 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here's to fresh fruits and vegetables! Most of us don't eat enough of either. I have a sweet tooth, but have been curbing it in an attempt to lose some winter weight. Instead of pastries, I enjoy apples and celery, pineapple, carrots, and mangoes,etc. Sugar is sugar, but I sure have more energy and feel better when I eat fruits and vegetables as opposed to sweets. Fructose from fruits (not the sugar that is made from corn and called fructose these days) is always better than refined sugars. I have a little advise to mothers of children who insist on eating too much of their favorite "bad" foods, whether they are sweets or chips or junk cereals. Children don't need to be catered to. I know that is the approach most of us have resorted to from time to time in an attempt to keep the peace. But as parents, we have a responsibility to take charge when what we know will protect them from harm. Kids will complain several times when they don't want to change what they eat...but let them get hungry once in awhile and let them complain. They will come around and try new snacks and meals and desserts when they are ready to. Go ahead and keep offering better choices and they will be fine.
Deb A.
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 12:15 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't know how I did that...last posting was supposed to start with: "I have a little advice (not advise) to mothers...." It's been one of those Mondays for me!
annon.
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 10:10 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jerry,
Where do you get, and what brand do you buy of carrots for your carrot juice. The carrots that I have found are mostly from grimmway farms and bother me. We do have our own garden in the summer, and we are building a green house so that we can grow all year round. At least that is the plan. I really do miss carrots and carrot juice. Thanks for your reply.
Jerry Story
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 1:31 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

About carrots:
I buy carrots from anywhere I can buy them. Don't know nuthin about brands.

There is evidence that the amount of some nutrients in plants depends greatly on the quality of the soil that they are grown in. See these links for evidence:

Soil and nutrients in plants:
http://www.oeffa.org/editorscorner/rutgers/rutgers.html

USDA nutrients decline:
http://tinyurl.com/38xbv

Therefore growing your own and managing the soil so that it is high quality might be a good idea. I don't have that opportunity. :-(
annon.
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 8:00 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jerry,
Are you MSG sensitive, or have you been previously and now are o.k.? Does Auxigrow bother you? Do you buy bulk or packaged carrots? Do you peel your carrots before you juice them?
Are you living the Hallelujah Diet life style (eat mostly living foods, very little cooked foods)?
I appreciate any insight you can give me on juicing. Thanks!!
Jerry Story
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 5:07 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

annon.,
To answer your questions:

I have ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), also known as Lou Gehrig's disease. I read Blaylock's book "Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills". That is a [insert cuss word] good book. Then I quit everything that has MSG or aspartame in it because those things are bad for ALS. So far as I know I don't get any obvious reaction to MSG, but I'm not gonna experiment to find out because when motor neurons die they tend to not come back.

Don't know nuthin about auxigrow.

I buy carrots any way I can. Usually packaged.

I'm not on any special diet.

I don't peel carrots, only wash them.

I'm not an expert on juicing. All I know about juicing is get a juicer and put stuff in it and out comes juice. Is there anything else to know about juicing? Learn by experience what juice mixes taste best. Dr. Mercola has some things to say about juicers. Some juicers are better than others.

Juice should be consumed before it loses too much nutrition to oxidation. I drink it immediately, never put in in the fridge.

I'm not a diet expert, apart from DMAK. But I think the Hallelujah diet is not good as a complete diet, altho it might be very good as -part- of a complete diet. There are horror stories on
http://www.beyondveg.com/index.shtml

But here is the other side of the subject:
http://www.ecologos.org/tb.htm

The Hallelujah diet almost certainly is lacking in B12, which comes reliably only from animal source foods. Also it lacks long-chain omega-3, which comes only from animal source foods. (A healthy body might convert plant-source short-chain to long-chain, but getting the long-chain from diet is a better bet.) Both B12 and long-chain omega-3 are very important for ALS.
And I ain't got no use for the Bible and I don't care what they ate in the Garden of Eatin.
Anonymous
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 11:39 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What in the heck are we suppost to eat!
Jerry Story
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 8:09 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anonymous Coward Character Whateveryouare,
The website slashdot.org renames Anonymous to "Anonymous Coward."

Yer supposed to eat stuff that ain't got no MSG.
http://msgtruth.org/eatwhat.htm

And lots of veggies for the flavonoids. See Blaylock's book "Health and Nutrition Secrets".
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 9:53 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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MEMorrisNJ
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 4:34 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/02/business/yourmoney/02syrup.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Sunday 7/2/06 Business section of the New York Times
Title: A Sweetener With a Bad Rap by Melanie Warner
Worth reading --- If you can get your hands on it, the paper edition included a great flow chart on how corn syrup is made. Cites defense of corn syrup in food --- big business $$$$ to the detriment of our health
Deb A.
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 8:04 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Think of all the corn syrup being consumed daily...and all the kids getting sicker and sicker. Then there's jello...that should be covered by some reporter...would like an expose on how that's produced. Heard from someone years ago who lived downwind from a gelatin factory. She had to move, it was so disgusting.
Anonymous
Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 9:52 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Jerry Story
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 7:49 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Headline in the news:
"CRA petitions FDA for high fructose corn syrup name change"

It's not just MSG that they are hiding under other names.

Those guys are crookeder than a dog's hind leg and lower than a snake's belly. They have no ethics. If you are not paranoid then you are crazy. They really are out to get you. Don't eat anything that has something that is not real food in it.
kristy
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 9:50 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My worst fear is that they will change the name to "corn sugar" and then quietly drop the "corn" from the name. It is hard enough to detect corn on a label when it can be listed under 100 or so names, it doesn't need to be any harder. The smarter the consumer gets, the craftier the companies need to be.
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 2:34 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A link to the story:

http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Financial-Industry/CRA-petitions-FDA-for-high-fructose-corn-syrup-name-change
DebA.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 2:40 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was given some dried cranberries one year. All it said on the label was "cranberries, sugar, sunflower oil". I ate a large handful and was sick for 3 days. I called the company and asked what kind of sugar it was, suspicious that it was beet sugar. I was told that it was corn syrup syrup. I was so mad. He even said that it was poor labeling. So beware.
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 7:20 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A corny movie:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/255609/king-corn

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