|Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 4:09 am: || |
Now's our chance. CNN just ran a story two minutes ago about how a dentist came up with an anti-inflammatory medicine patients rub on the upper gum above the rear molars that gets rid of migraines. He beleives that conventional wisdom about blood vessel dialation causing migraines is incorrect. He thinks it is inflammation causing a major nerve above the rear molars to become pressed against - causing the migraine. Inflammation again - the usual suspect. The report then mentioned that some report relief by avoiding "certain foods" They stopped the report there, depriving their viewers of knowing which foods. Email CNN and tell them you want them to report the whole story and mention WHICH foods - MSG and aspartame. Mention that MSG would excacerbate inflammation by its affect on histamine levels. This dentist's theory explains why MSG causes headaches and why things like aspirin and ibuprofin work on headaches. This wonderful dentist thought outside the box and is providing his patients real relief. We should make sure CNN reports "The Rest of The Story".
|Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 8:23 am: || |
Anyone have CNN's e amil address?
This is very interesting, and as Carol says, it's important that many of us get behind this.
One thing I have been doing lately when I eat out...which is rare these days...is take 2 Ibuprofen before I eat, and 1 a half hour after eating. I think it may help, or it's just that I am getting better with what to order. I do it in an attempt to inhibit inflammation, since I get terrible headaches if I get too much of you know what.
|Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 10:37 am: || |
Hey, I am with you on the ibuprofen thing - whenever I feel I may have gotten a small amount of msg, which I don't notice until night when I try to sleep is when I really notice it - (pounding heart or tossing/turning) - I will get up and take ibuprofen and then a little while later I am able to sleep and feel quite a bit better. - maybe it's mental, but hey, whatever works. No, I honestly think there is something to this. Did you ever hear of the nun who lived to be very old and didn't get Alzheimer's in spite of her brain having all the ravaging signs of damage? - well, she took ibuprofen regularly for her arthritus - that was what the report said anyway. Since I heard this a couple years ago, my husband and I switched to Ibuprofen as our household pain reliever - and since Alzheimer's seems to be linked to the msg thing, it couldn't hurt, and we don't take it unless we need it. Anyway, I'm going to CNN's website now, I'm pretty sure there is a way to email them on their site. it's www.cnn.com
|Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 3:47 pm: || |
Roy! Can you help? The site is indeed www.cnn.com but I don't have Netscape so can't figure out how to e-mail them. It's actually cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/conditions/02-11-migraine.treatment .... anyway, how do I email them?
|Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 6:30 pm: || |
You could always e-mail them at:
|Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 6:37 pm: || |
Here's a link on ibuprofen (scroll down to 9th heading):
|Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 9:16 am: || |
Roy, Oh, yeah. Duh. Thank you. Don't know what I was thinking!
|Posted on Monday, February 18, 2002 - 3:28 am: || |
I find ibuprofen to be the only thing that will reverse an MSG reaction for me. If one doesn't work, I take two.
|Posted on Monday, February 18, 2002 - 5:54 pm: || |
For a medium reaction, I take a minimum of 7 over-the-counter Motrin (ibuprofen) tablets (not gelcaps). No negligible relief from 6 or fewer for me. For a bad reaction, I take 8 every 4 hours, and it barely takes the edge off. If I couldn't tell when they wear off I would bet they aren't doing a thing. Aspirin, excedrin, tylenol and aleve do absolutely nothing, and never have worked for me.
FYI, OTC ibuprofen tablets are 200 mg.
Prescription are usually 800 mg.
Doctors have told me it's okay to take 2 prescription ibuprofen tablets, which is equivalent to 8 OTC tablets. With the OTC tablets, you get a lot more fillers and binders, and a pharmacist said they don't work as well.
|Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 6:16 pm: || |
If I'm suffering an intensifying "brain fog" reaction to MSG, ibuprofen will actually clear it up like turning a defroster on a windshield. Nothing else does this at all, in any quantity.
|Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 6:45 am: || |
I just wanted to note - be careful taking so many pain relievers - they are all very hard on your LIVER. Taking 6 or more is very risky. You can have liver failure. I'm not kidding. My nurse friend told me that.
(I also forgot to include about the story about the nun, was that there was a high instance of Alzheimers disease in the convent among the other nuns - many of the other nuns came down with Alzheimers, and many died, yet this nun, who they studied, had the brain damage which should have caused her to come down with Alzheimers, but she never did. The main difference between her and the others was that she had taken ibuprofen regularly for her arthritis.) That was in important point of the story that I had left out before!
|Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 8:51 am: || |
Isn't Tylenol (acetominophen) the one that causes liver damage, and in not that huge of quantities? It is not in the same category as ibuprofen, which is an NSAID (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug).
Some people get stomach problems from NSAIDs, or taking a lot of them can cause stomach problems. The last time I tried taking Excedrin (aspirin, tylenol & caffeine), I got a burning stomach and ringing ears, and still had a headache.
Bottom line: YMMV (your mileage may vary) and everyone is different.
|Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 1:16 pm: || |
Yes, Tylenol can injure the liver.
Excedrin does the same to me, Deb.
|Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 8:20 am: || |
Here is an interesting reference re NSAIDs and leaky gut from the book entitled, "Depression - Cured At Last", by Dr. Sherry Rogers (who suffered from chemical sensitivities herself).
Quote: .... one of the main causes of leaky gut syndrome is a classification of medications called NON-STERIODAL,ANTIINFLAMMATORY DRUGS (NSAIDS).... There are many over-the-counter, non-prescription durgs in the NSAID calssification. These include aspirin, ibuprofen (Motrin, Advil) and naproxen sodium (Aleve, formerly prescription Naprosyn). NSAIDs are a direct major cause of the leaky gut syndrome, because they inflame the intestinal lining and cause widening of the spaces between cells. ... Consequences are serious . . . . When the gut is inflamed, it does NOT ABSORB NUTRIENTS and foods properly, so fatigue and bloating can occur. When large food particles are absorbed, FOOD ALLERGIES and new symptoms are created (e.g, ... fibromyaglia)....Whe the detoxification pathways that line the gut are compromised, chemical sensitivity can arise. Furthermore, the leakage of toxins overburdens the liver so that the body is less able to handle everday chemicals."
This section of her book goes on to explain other consequences (e.g., high cholesterol, magnesium deficiency, infections, autoimmune diseases) and how to test and treat.
Have any of you had any experiences with testing and treating leaky gut?
|Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 9:12 am: || |
I am being treated for leaky gut now and I wouldn't be surprised if it has something to do with over the counter pain killers. I used to take them but they never relieved my headache pain. My doctor says leaky gut is due to yeast, caused by too many antibiotics over the years. I've never had a yeast infection and have not taken all that much antibiotics over the years. I just assume that it was too many antibiotics for me. I had a couple of strep throats as a child and a few other infections, not all that many. So the Motrin and Asprin sound plausable. I'm not sure there is a test for leaky gut. Doctors (and very few have ever heard of it) just look at the symptoms, the main one being escalating food allergies-that's me! The treatment is to kill the yeast and heal the lining of the intestine. It takes some time, but I am noticing a difference. I have far fewer headaches in in last couple of months. Still, MSG makes me react every time, but now so do many other foods. I really think that the foods high in natural glutamates get through my leaky gut easier than other foods. Thanks for the information on the NSAID connection.
|Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 11:34 am: || |
There are tests for leaky gut. See http://www.gsdl.com. This is NOT a recommendation to use this lab but I have learned from getting their free email newsletter.
|Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 2:50 pm: || |
I don't think I have been paying attention lately. This leaky gut sounds just like what I have. Escalating food allergies for sure. As I think on it I have taken tons of antibiotics especially in Colorado where the dry air used to give me strep throat several times a year. Please tell me what should I be eating or not be eating with leaky gut. Ruth do you have email?
|Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 9:05 pm: || |
Many of our e-mail addresses are on the Tree View. Mine has changed: firstname.lastname@example.org.
If it's leaky gut, I'm pretty sure yeast overgrowth is present, which needs a prescription drug (Nystatin powder) to kill it. Next you would have to follow a strict diet, avoiding anything sweet, including sweet fruits, and basically anything else that tastes sweet or turns to sugar in the body, which is almost everything. My diet was already so limited that this new one was no big deal. The diet lasts from a couple of weeks to a month or two. I took multi-probiotics from the beginning of the treatment and continue to take them a year later. My doctor lets me know which brands of supplements to take (none of them are a multi-vitamin). They are all for a specific purpose, mostly to boost the immune system. My doctor did a blood test for food allergies, and that helped determine what I could and could not eat. I was extremely limited food wise- (organic brown rice), Bell and Evans brand chicken (Whole Foods Market), organic lettuce, and a few fruits and vegetables were all I could eat without getting a migraine. I'm sure the foods are different for everybody, and even with a blood test, I could eat some things that I tested allergic to and not others that were supposedly safe. It's a big experiment. Try to eat one new food at a time so you can see the reaction. I can eat everything now-food allergy or no. It was the leaky gut that was causing the problem.
|Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 6:00 am: || |
New article on tyramine sensitivity as a migraine trigger..mentions MSG as a possible factor, but the neurologist being interviewed says new research shows MSG may not be as big a factor as thought. Someone needs to set this guy straight. Here's the link to the story:
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Very good antiinflammatory is fresh ginger tea. I keep in my frig all the time. I grate about a half a cup of fresh ginger, squeeze in one lemon add a little raw sugar not much then water about a pitcher full. Put on stove for a while then frig when cool. It can take most pain away and settle your stomach.
|Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 10:39 am: || |
Thanks for that. The timing is perfect, I am going to try some. Sounds like a nice ginger lemonade.