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Hatabax
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2002 - 9:43 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Of all the MSG websites I've seen, none got me more worked up than the FDA website. I've send along some quotes of some interesting segments, which are surrounded by asterisks

http://www.fda.gov/opacom/backgrounders/msg.html

Quote: Monosodium glutamate (MSG) is *used as a flavor enhancer* in a variety of foods prepared at home, in restaurants, and by food processors. Its use has become controversial in the past 30 years because of reports of adverse reactions in people who've eaten foods that contain MSG. Research on the role of glutamate--a group of chemicals that includes MSG--in the nervous system also has raised questions about the chemical's safety.


Doesn't it go without saying that the consumer would like to know if an additive in a food they were about to buy has caused damage to nerve cells in the brain when injected into animals?

Quote: Studies have shown that the body uses glutamate, an amino acid, as a nerve impulse transmitter in the brain and that there are glutamate-responsive tissues in other parts of the body, as well. Abnormal function of glutamate receptors has been linked with certain neurological diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease and Huntington's chorea. *Injections of glutamate in laboratory animals have resulted in damage to nerve cells in the brain.* Consumption of glutamate in food, however, does not cause this effect. While people normally consume dietary glutamate in large amounts and the body can make and metabolize glutamate efficiently, the results of animal studies conducted in the 1980s raised a significant question: Can MSG and possibly some other glutamates harm the nervous system? A 1995 report from the Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB), an independent body of scientists, helps put these safety concerns into perspective and reaffirms the Food and Drug Administration's belief that MSG and related substances are safe food ingredients for most people when eaten at customary levels.

Quote: MSG is the sodium salt of the amino acid glutamic acid and a form of glutamate. It is sold as a fine white crystal substance, similar in appearance to salt or sugar. It *does not have a distinct taste of its own, and how it adds flavor to other foods is not fully understood.* Many scientists believe that MSG stimulates glutamate receptors in the tongue to augment meat-like flavors.


So, they use a toxic chemical as a flavor enhancer.. yet they say it has no distinct flavor, and they don't understand how it can be used as a flavor enhancer.. YET they allow it in over 90% of processed foods without regard to some 500,000+ people saying they are having adverse effects from it. I smell a bribe.

Quote: Some glutamate is in foods in a "free" form. It is only in this free form that glutamate can enhance a food's flavor

Yet processors are allowed to bind it to hydrolized proteins and such, without the need to label it. Funny how the most angering evidence comes from the people who try to obscure it, rather than those who oppose it The words 'scientists believe' occur frequently here, unless there was some other party looking to keep this quiet (*COUGH*PROCESSEDFOODINDUSTRY*COUGH*) the FDA should not (I hope, would not) allow this to be so widely used when so little is known about it, ESPECIALLY when what IS known is for it to damage nerve cells in the brain when injected into animals.

Theres alot more on the page, which I will not comment on here, post is long enough.
Judy T
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2002 - 3:51 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hatabax: I really appreciate the excerpts you've given us. I've spent so much time being angry and feeling deceived, I can't count anymore. In the eventual future, all will be exposed, I am certain. By the by...the 'taste' they refer to is the umami; see a previous post. Interesting.
Roy Piwovar
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2002 - 4:50 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hatabax,

I find it disingenuous that the Food Doctoring Advocates admit consumption of glutamate causes adverse reactions indicative of harm to the nervous system, while denying that it causes any such harm. It seems that greed has triumphed over honesty. I hope that they change their minds and move over to the side of consumers, who they are supposed to be protecting.
Tom Fernstrom
Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 4:54 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear NOMSGers,

I heard on the news tonight that in recent days, both the heads of the CDC and the FDA have resigned. Maybe they know something is going to break in the media about Excitotoxin poisoning.

Keep your fingers crossed.

PS Carol H. -- Job opportunities!!! :)
Susan
Posted on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 8:20 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was watching the sad coverage of the mother who drowned her children. It was mentioned that she said she did it because she felt like a failure because her children had learning, developmental and behavioral problems. Of course, she herself was known to suffer from severe depression. HELLO! If the FDA doesn't start to look at the possibilty that they are aiding and abetting more such desperate acts of illnes that may possibly be a direct result of excitotoxins, they can all resign, as far as I am concerned. Sure there are other causes for depression, but there is obviously a growing trend. I raised my children in a time when MSG was not so prevalent. Very few of my friends were having problems. Now my children and their friends are having all kinds of problems. The schools and doctors want to blame it on bad parenting. But there is much more going on here. Luckily, I have been able to help some of my chilren and their friends by sharing what I have recently learned about MSG. It is truly making positive life changes for the ones who change their diets. I commend you for this site, and want to thank Deb A. andher husband for all they have done. I sure hope this country wakes up soon.
Deb A.
Posted on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 11:52 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I thought about that mother, too, Susan. I didn't know what depression was for so many years until I started developing my own little black cloud in my 40's before I knew about MSG and aspartame. If I had had that depression while I was trying to raise my own 4 children, I don't know how I would have coped...and if my children were all having problems on top of that...well,I would have been pretty miserable. People will always blame other things... poor parenting, religion, the husband,stress,.. and not even consider that food could be making us so ill. It's a miracle I was able to do all that I had to with my migraine headaches and fatigue in my 20's and 30's. When I look back, it was a nightmare! Then you have to show this happy face to the world, while your own world is confusing and painful. I've heard from young mothers whose depression caused by MSG had put them in bed many a day. They had dreaded when the kids got home from school and they just existed...until they learned the facts about excitotoxins. Sure hope you are right, Tom. There have been several FDA heads who have resigned...big turnover...wonder why????
Roy Piwovar
Posted on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 2:45 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tom,

I wouldn't be surprised if Monsanto was somehow involved. They make Enron look good:

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lsweetdebate7.htm
Carol H
Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2002 - 8:37 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yup.
Deb A.
Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2002 - 10:45 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Every time Monsanto or Anjinomoto gets into legal trouble, they pay their huge fines gladly, and then go on their merry way making us sick, as they reap billions.
Jerry Story
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 2:16 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

About FDA:

FDA is strictly politics, in the worst sense of that word. Nothing to do with science. And nothing to do with health.

Several powerful industries have the FDA by the nuts.
Jerry Story
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 6:39 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abolish the FDA!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/grichar/grichar17.html
They are worse than useless.
Forget reform. They are beyond reform.
Deb A.
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 8:48 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When I was in high school, I chose to do my final term paper on the FDA, naively belieiving it would be full of wonderful, glowing comments about an esteemed gov't agency. Wow! As I did my research, I was shocked. I reported all the garbage, past and present, that I uncovered... got an A.
Several of its highest leaders have stepped down over the years...wonder why...men of conscience???One can only hope.
Jerry Story
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 3:31 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One little point to avoid a misunderstanding.
The author of this article
http://www.lewrockwell.com/grichar/grichar17.html
thinks drugs are good and criticises FDA for prohibiting drugs. I think drugs are bad.

I agree with the author's conclusion, but for different reasons.
Jerry Story
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 8:21 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The "I have a question" topic is getting too many messages, so I'm moving this here.

----[begin quote]----

Here's the FDA complaint page:

http://www.fda.gov/opacom/backgrounders/problem.html#food

---[end quote]-----
Roy Piwovar
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 2:33 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Or try:
http://www.fda.gov/opacom/backgrounders/problem.html#food
Jerry Story
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 6:12 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

About FDA:
http://www.newstarget.com/002439.html

Faster Death to Americans
Failure to Defend Americans
Fact Distortion Agency
Fund Dubya's Administration
Forever Drug Americans
Fraudulent Drug Approvals
Furtherment of Disease Alliance
Farcical Drug Authority
Federal Disinformation Association
Favoring Draconian Actions
Federal Drug Advocates
Facilitating the Drugging of America
Falsify and Distort Agency
Fatal Death Agency
Deb A.
Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 2:57 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Let's hope we see some reforms in the FDA as more legislators become involved as the article states.

Foul food Defenders of America....guess that's FFDA..oh well, I tried. :-)
Jerry Story
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 10:10 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

List of names for FDA:
http://www.newstarget.com/002439.html

Here is another one (not original with me):
F... Dumb Americans
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MEMorrisNJ
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Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 5:31 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/24/2/169.pdf
Editorial from the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
Title: The Many Faceted Mystique of Monosodium Glutamate
MEMorrisNJ
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Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 5:34 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PS The AJCN article was published way back in 1971!
Carol H
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Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 5:52 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Great find.
Now, if in 1971, it was well known that MSG was harmful when injected, WHY is it in children's vaccines now?
MEMorrisNJ
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 5:12 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And WHY is it still used in parenteral nutrition on poor children and adults who are terribly sick already? I've reread the above article several times and each time, I get so mad that all this was known a very long time ago.

Quote from 2005 study at http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1651-2227.2005.tb01780.x?cookieSet=1&journalCode=apa: "We are concerned that GLU-containing parenteral nutrition may not only increase the risk of hypothalamic damage in neurosurgical patients with an impaired blood–brain barrier, and in patients with periventricular leukomalacia, but may also permanently damage the arcuate nucleus neurones in the very immature infant. This may result in later impairment of feeding regulation, obesity, hyperleptinaemia, and other symptoms that characterize the "thrifty phenotype" and the dysmetabolic syndrome. We strongly suggest reconsidering the recommended daily allowances of amino acids, particularly the use of GLU, in current paediatric parenteral nutrition."
MEMorrisNJ
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 5:17 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This site is from Continex, a supplier of monosodium glutamate of how glutamic acid AND its derivatives are used. http://www.continex.com/ga99.htm
I need to get some air! This is all too much! I am taking a computer break for a while.
Deb A.
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 2:54 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They even mention its use in specialized baby formula.. among many things. It must be pretty current, since it mentions its ability for making produce and even piglets larger! No surprise we're bigger and fatter than our grandparents.
Carol H
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 7:21 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Awesome link, MEMorris. You and Roy are amazing.

But, NOW I won't be able to sleep tonite.......
Di
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Posted on Friday, October 28, 2011 - 6:17 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://justlabelit.org/takeaction

Let’s flood the FDA with comments so they know that the public wants labeling of GE foods!

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