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Lisa Marie
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Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 8:33 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did anyone see the story on 60 minutes last night about the honey bees disappearing? This is major-we will not have fruit and vegetables. They attributed it to the nicotine based pesticides.....altho' they say it will take months or years of study? The beekeepers believe it is the pesticides. HELLO? We are destroying ourselves. Carol, I hope your book comes out soon.
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 12:43 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

More on the honey bee mystery:

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_4557.cfm
Carol H
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 8:04 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Roy,

I hope to finish the book this summer. I just finished my run for County Freeholder, and lost - which means I can spend my summer writing and not campaigning :-)

Anyway, I just figured this out this morning and posted this on MSGTruth.org

UPDATE: Apparently, Auxigro use was quietly stopped recently.
We believe that the reason is: it may have been responsible for Colony Collapse Disorder that has resulted been devastating bee hives in the US. Our theory is simply this: Bees use pheromones - chemical signals affect nearly all of their most important behaviors. The one we suspect that is involved here is o-aminoacetophenone. This particular pheromone is NATURALLY released by the Queen and repels the workers when she feels threatened. Unfortunately, this compound is found in fermented dairy products as well. Unfortunately, because dairy is high in MSG - casein was chosen as the food item used to MAKE Auxigro. Auxigro contains hydrolysed casein. We suspect since this is agricultural use - that there are probably traces of o-aminoacetophenone still present in Auxigro. Basically spraying this stuff from airplanes has blanketed the country with the very pheromone that tells bees to abandon the queen. Not very bright if you ask us.
Shortly after the use of Auxigro was stopped, there have been new reports that bee hives are starting to increase again. Coincidence? We think not.

Pretty amazing, huh? I'll try to get more links about this pheromone. Unfortunately, chemical companies make this garbage ON PURPOSE and ship it all over the world. They should probably ban the sale of the stuff worldwide.
Nana
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 9:34 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Very interesting! Do yogurt, kefir, buttermilk, etc. have pheromones in them? Are they O.K. to eat?
Carol H
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 9:46 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They are OK for humans to eat, but indiscriminantly spraying dairy products on produce that needs to be pollinated by bees is a very bad idea. One creature's snack ingredient is another's fear pheromone.
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 9:06 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carol,

Looking forward to reading your book, although your county is missing out.

Your theory on Auxigro and colony collapse disorder makes sense, although they'll probably never admit anything publicly.

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/webprojects2001/loveridge/index-page5.html
Dianne
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Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 3:57 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Carol, Roy and Lisa Marie

Hopefully, the plight of the bees will be reversed now that Auxigro is no longer used. Oh, the havok that man wreaks on this earth.
Deb A.
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Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 12:14 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As soon as I heard about the bee controversy, Mike and I discussed the possibility of AuxiGro being the culprit. I emailed Jack Samuels, and he agreed...he had even talked it over with some bee keepers and emailed the Institiute of Health. It makes sense, and your explanation of why is excellent. Look how MSG disrupts our endocrine system...it is destroying our people and our planet, if we aren't vigilant. Keep spreading the word, everyone! Carol, sorry about the defeat, but now I am pumped for your book...hope you are, too!!! Haven't heard from you in ages, but I suspected campaigning. Great to hear from you again. Have missed you. :-) What's happened with the movie/documentary, The Beautiful Truth????
Dianne
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Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 6:04 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just found this:

The Beautiful Truth
Beth appears in The Beautiful Truth, a film documentary by award-winning producer Steve Kroschel with Kroschel Films. Scheduled to be released in September 2008, it will be distributed by California-based Cinema Libre. This film highlights the link between health, diet, and environment, and features interviews with the top researchers and physicians in the fields of food additives, genetically engineered food, mercury and fluoride toxicity, and also the Gerson Therapy, which focuses on a highly successful alternative, non-toxic treatment of cancer and other diseases.
Carol H
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Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 8:36 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I had heard that Jack suspected Auxigro, and when I did some digging, I found the pheromone link, so pass that along to Jack, if you speak to him. He came up with the original theory - I just figured out the how.

Check out the links I added to the movie trailer that just came out today.

I will be spending a lot more time trying to finish the book this summer. The Colony Collapse Disorder link is the perfect end to my research for the book. It is the absolute perfect morality tale about why we should not play with our food and if we do, why we shouldn'y spray it indescriminately from airplanes onto unsuspecting creatures.
Deb A.
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Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 3:36 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've been watching the Veria network. "Under The Sun" is great. It features a young man who travels the lesser known roads seeking out organic farms all over the world. It's amazing what can be grown without pesticides and dangerous chemicals.
Carol, I'll send the info on to Jack. ;)
Carol H
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Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 9:38 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, Jack doesn't buy my theory. But I still believe it. Residual o-aminoacetophenone possibly present in the casein used in Auxigro made the workers bees leave the queen. He thinks it is just MSG. But I think in this case it is a compound that does double duty as a pheromone.

Jack and I agree that MSG is bad for you, but we do disagree on why. I just wish I could get him off that "natural" is ALWAYS good thing. Too much sugar no matter where it comes from is bad for a diabetic. Too much natural glutamate in someone who has genetic flaws in dealing with it will be a bad thing, just like in a child with PKU - too much phelylalanine is bad.

Jack's been telling folks that I am a glute. He doesn't trust me. If he'd done his homework, he would know that isn't true. I can't convince him the sky is blue right now. What do you guys think of my theory?
Dianne
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 9:44 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carol, I'm not versed enough in the bee/pheromone theory to have an opinion other than thinking it's possible. As for Jack thinking you are a glute and not trusting you - I can't by any stretch of the imagination understand why he'd feel that!!!
LaurenC
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Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 8:58 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I like your theory Carol. Also, since milk is high in glutamate and I assume it has to be processed (heated) to be included in Auxigro, doesn't it then create free glutamate/MSG? How could you be a glute with the website you put out???
vicki s
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Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:28 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carol, I think your theory makes a lot of sense too. We know you're not one of the glutes and we are all looking forward to your book!
Carol H
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Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:21 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, guys. It is depressing when Jack writes me off so easily. I really appreciate the feedback we all give each other here. It is what has helped us get so far in our understanding and in finding the remedies we have. I honestly don't know where I'd be without you all. One thought or idea leads to so many others....for example - I actually still am looking into the arginine info Lisa Marie brought up......
Tom Fernstrom
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 11:50 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carol H,

I'm on your side with regard to the Auxigro theory and the bee controversy. Why don't we find out what is in Auxigro that is supposed to protect produce from bug infestation and how it works. This can't be proprietary information if it has been approved for application to produce meant for human consumption.

In fact, I thought I had brought up this connection to the bee controversy a long time ago, but I can't find the posting. May have thought I posted it. (Dang MSG) :-(
Deb A.
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Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 11:07 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You and your work and theories are invaluable to the MSG/aspartame cause, Carol. Jack can think what he wants to, but we are grateful that you are on our side!
Dianne
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 10:18 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Re: bees "colony collapse disorder," or CCD - I don't know what is causing it but here's another article about it.

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14192.cfm

In part:..."In 2003, EPA granted a registration to a new pesticide manufactured by Bayer CropScience under the condition that Bayer submit studies about its product's impact on bees. EPA has refused to disclose the results of these studies, or if the studies have even been submitted. The pesticide in question, clothianidin, recently was banned in Germany due to concerns about its impact on bees. A similar insecticide was banned in France for the same reason a couple of years before. In the United States, these chemicals still are in use despite a growing consensus among bee specialists that pesticides, including clothianidin and its chemical cousins, may contribute to CCD."

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