| Author | Message | ||
| Jerry Story
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What they are doing to milk: http://webnests.com/rbgh.htm | ||
| Jerry Story
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Connection between Monsanto and FDA: http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/monfdausgovc.html | ||
| Jerry Story
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And of course we need this one: http://www.laleva.cc/pharma/monsantofiles.html | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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On one of the above sites is a link to a scathing poem about "Monsatan": http://www.seizetheday.org/monsanto/monsantoII.htm | ||
| Deb A. |
DDT, Agent Orange, aspartame, bovine growth hormone, genetically modified seeds...what a legacy! | ||
| Carol H |
Don't forget the PCBs they invented that destroyed the fishing industry in the Hudson River. And Roundup, which interferes in amino acid metabolism. | ||
| Deb A. |
How frightening.  | ||
| Anonymous |
If you believe in reincarnation could Donald Rumsfeld have been Hitler? | ||
| Carol H |
Hitler had a terrifying agenda, Rumsfeld is just an ex-corporate CEO with a huge ego, in over his head who doesn't understand the damage he is causing. If he did, he would be taking excitotoxins out of the rations the troops are eating. Hitler was truly evil - Rumsfeld is just the wrong guy for the job. | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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Actually, Hitler's blood relatives are alive and well and living on Long Island. http://www.wtps.co.uk/news.asp?dnid=3983 As to Donald Rumsfeld being the reincarnation of Hitler, there are others much more closely associated. http://www.rense.com/general40/bushfamilyfundedhitler.htm | ||
| Anonymous |
In the 1920's many people liked the early Hitler because they saw he was able to turn around a dying economy in post war Germany. At that time there was no evidence yet of his demonic nature. Many bankers got involved in what they thought was promising future for Germany. | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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Anonymous, If the Bush family was unaware of Hitler's intentions in the 1920's, they must have known by the 1930's and 1940's. http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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Back to George W. and Monsanto. http://www.sustdev.org/agriculture/news/01/05/02.01.shtml | ||
| A. T. |
This article would have us believe that the Bush family knowingly supported Hitler's plans for world dominance and the extermination of Jews from day one and that somehow, all the Bushes up to our president are tainted by the folly of an ancestor. I'm not a Republican, but let's be fair. I hate the arrogance and ignorance of people in power like Rumfield and the people behind Monsanto and Searl Nutrasweet and MSG. I also get very ticked with people I try to talk to who think I'm crazy when I tell them about MSG. It's people's prejudice, ambition, greed, laziness, and stupidity that are the enemies here. | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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A. T., I agree it would be unfair to blame subsequent generations for the misdeeds of their forebears, who at the very least held their nose and looked the other way rather than sacrifice profits. Still, I would hope that subsequent generations would learn from the past and help those in need, not those with greed. | ||
| A.T. |
True. | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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More on Monsanto, and so that no one party takes all the blame, per the site below "Gore voted with Senate conservatives in 1985 against aspartame labelling." http://www.sumeria.net/health/npoi1.html | ||
| Jerry Story
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On this link, http://organicconsumers.org/monlink.html you can find this: [BEGIN QUOTE] In case you were in doubt about Monsanto's motives for producing GE crops: A Monsanto official told the New York Times, October 25, 1998, that the corporation should not have to take responsibility for the safety of its food products. "Monsanto should not have to vouchsafe the safety of biotech food," said Phil Angell, Monsanto's director of corporate communications. "Our interest is in selling as much of it as possible. Assuring its safety is the FDA's job." [END QUOTE] Hmmm. Let's think about that a bit. They don't want responsibility for the consequences of their biotech food. No conscience. Don't give a rat's a.. about your health. All they are interested in is making money. Not in improving the world. Not in creating a product that they can be proud of. Just money. Safety?? That's FDA's job. But wait a minute! Monsanto is one of several companies controlling FDA. FDA doesn't give a rat's a.. about your health either. The -real- function of FDA is to approve Monsanto's products. | ||
| Jerry Story
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Monsanto invented a new kind of rat poison. It seems to work very well. http://www.rense.com/general68/rats.htm But they are going to market it as food for humans. They don't give a rat's @$$. Is there any way to get those dirty rats at Monsanto to eat their own GM soy rat poison? | ||
| Lisa Marie |
Thanks for that article Jerry. That is beyond sickening. I have been avoiding soy since on the MSG free diet. | ||
| Debbey |
cyanocobalamin....anyone have info on it??? Found ACT enery drink "safe for diabetics" Ha top list of ingredients look great till you get to the bottom section...maltodextrin and this stuff...was going to E-mail company since they responded so quickly but not sure what this is??? Looking it up but you guys know more | ||
| Carol H |
Debbey, it's just a really scary name for Vitamin B12. | ||
| Jerry Story
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cyanocobalamin: Avoid this. In the worst case scenario, it acts as an anti-vitamin and can cause a deficiancy of B12. In the best case scenario, it is not used very well and is of little or no therapeutic value. Better is methylcobalamin. Recommended by Blaylock in "Health and Nutrition Secrets". | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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More from Jerry about methylcobalamin: http://www.talkaboutcooking.com/group/alt.food.vegan.science/messages/5917.html | ||
| Deb A. |
Jerry, thanks for posting that link to the soy story. It's fascinating. At the end of the article, you can click and send it on to others. I sent to everyone I know...so many friends of mine swear by soy products for hot flashes or for low fat items...I keep trying to warn them...hope this helps. | ||
| Deb A. |
Hurray for Monsanto....for giving us all these wonderful soy products....and DDT, agent orange, genentically engineered seeds, bovine growth hormone and so much more. | ||
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| Jerry Story Unregistered guest |
Here is a short movie about Monsanto. Fox News Kills Monsanto Milk Story http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7716141285497881772&q=milk&total=27454&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=40 (tinyurl is not working) | ||
| Lisa Marie Unregistered guest |
Jerry, Thank you for that link. This story is unbelivable, yet of course, we know it to be true. This just happened, some success in banning milk labeled as organic: OCA ALERT UPDATE: SUCCESS! FACTORY FARM DAIRY SUPPLYING HORIZON LOSES ORGANIC CERTIFICATION After more than a year of efforts to raise public awareness, the OCA and the Cornucopia Institute celebrated a major victory last week when, for the first time, a massive 10,000 head intensive confinement California feedlot dairy had its organic certification suspended. Prior to OCA's boycott, this factory farm supplied Horizon Organic. "This is a big victory for the farm families around the country who work so hard to create milk and dairy products that meet a high ethical standard," said Mark Kastel, Cornucopia's senior farm policy analyst. The Cornucopia Institute says that the good news about organic dairy products is that the vast majority are produced with high integrity and meet the spirit and letter of the organic law. Learn more: http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_5565.cfm PRODUCT PLUNDER OF THE WEEK: HORIZON ANNOUNCES FURTHER LOSSES AS OCA BOYCOTT CONTINUES This week, Horizon, the largest organic dairy company in the U.S., announced, for the second time this year that its profits are decreasing. Horizon dairy is one of several brands being boycotted by the OCA and thousands of organic consumers due to the company's practice of sourcing milk from giant dairy feedlots where the animals have little or no access to pasture. Gregg Engles, the CEO of Dean Foods (Horizon's parent company) blamed recent profit losses on "considerable disruption" in the organic dairy marketplace. When OCA launched its boycott in 2006, Engles claimed factory farmed organics were necessary in order to produce enough organic milk to meet growing consumer demands. Ironically, this week Engles said part of the blame for the company's profit losses is due to an oversupply of organic dairy in the marketplace. Learn more: http://www.organicconsumers.org/rd/boycott.cfm TARGETS OF OCA'S ONGOING "ORGANIC" FACTORY FARM DAIRY BOYCOTT Horizon, Costco's "Kirkland Signature," Safeway's "O" organics brand, Publix's "High Meadows, "Giant's "Natures Promise," "Woodstock Farms" and Wild Oats' organic milk. | ||
| Deb A. Unregistered guest |
Jerry and Lisa Marie, thanks for the links and milk info. I sent them on to everyone one I know. You can surely see what we are up against with MSG when you watch that video clip. I hope the milk we drink is still safe. I only use Organic Valley whole milk, and I dilute it half and half with filtered water. | ||
| Deb A. Unregistered guest |
Think I will begin to make my own almond milk again...got away from it for awhile. It's so easy the way I make it. I put 1 cup of slivered almonds in the blender with 4 cups of water and blend 4 minutes. You can strain it through a cloth or fine mesh strainer if you prefer. It's great real cold and can be used just like milk in cooking or baking. I add a pinch of sugar sometimes. | ||
| Jerry Story Unregistered guest |
According to Dr. McDougall there ain't no such thing as safe milk. Go to Google Video and search McDougall + milk You will find a 43 minute movie of Dr. McDougall kicking the s**t out of milk and the dairy industry and Monsanto. | ||
| Jerry Story Unregistered guest |
Animals refuse to eat GM foods. When they are forced to eat it, bad things happen to them. Monsanto doesn't give a rat's "Everything you HAVE TO KNOW about Dangerous Genetically Modified Foods" - long video http://www.seedsofdeception.com/GMFree/MediaCenter/VideoAudio-Interviews/EverythingAboutGMOsVideo/index.cfm This video explains why I quit corn. Did Monsanto ever do anything that is not bad? Monsanto wants to patent everything we eat. | ||
| kristy Unregistered guest |
Jerry, I agree with you. Since my corn and soy allergy I have learned a lot about the horrors of GMOs and how prevalent they are in our society. I know people think I am a conspiracy theorist, but I truly believe that Monsanto is in the process of "owning" the world's food supply. I think that takes the word monopoly to a whole new level. What scares me is that the truth sounds so over-the-top that people don't believe it. I hear pompous asses spouting that "feed the world" propaganda all the time and they truly believe the PR crap that Monsanto is talking. They think it makes them an intellectual and they try to make people like me sound irrational and extremist. There is just no way a rational and logical person would not be scared of GMOs once they find out all the facts. Thanks for posting the link. | ||
| bo'nana Unregistered guest |
aargh. yes. i am right there with both of you - even tho it does sound so extreme & conspiricist nevertheless i still believe its true. its just sooooo hard getting anyone else to listen, if they have not allready been doing some research of their own. monsanto has a lot of dirty dirty secrets and a great deal of power, and they are very strategically rising to prominence in a very quiet way. by the time most of the world is aware of what is going on, it will be too late (personally, i fear it allready is). the truth is that no one has any idea of what impact GMOs will have on all earthbound life. there are signs allready tho... ugly ones. for anyone who is looking... ive been worrying about all this since i first heard about monsanto and their starlink corn, about 10 years ago... back when my older son was first starting to manifest so many issues. honestly, those guys scare me to death. all those big chem companies do... but something about monsanto... i dont know... anyway, i noticed they are on the Forbes list of Global High Performers this year (Forbes 2010 Special Issue, on newstands thru July 26). they may not be in The Forbes Top 100 yet... but it definitely shows that chemically-sensitive people like ourselves are not the only ones who are believing monsanto should be closely watched. | ||
| kristy Unregistered guest |
Most people believe that it isn't an issue that effects them so they're not interested. I wish it was just a matter of choice. If I could just choose to avoid them and let everyone else eat them up, I would never mention it. But, the more they are planted, the more it effects the foods that are available to me and the biodiversity of food crops. I wish everyone would just wake up and see that there will soon be no corn that isn't GMO. That is huge! We have systematically wiped out an incredible amount of varieties of a major food crop in less than a generation and replaced it with something humans can't eat. They want to do it with alfalfa (control of the grassfed meat and dairy), wheat, rice and sugar, too. (I don't count soy or cotton because I don't think they should be ingested by humans anyway) These are my favorite sites about GMOs: http://www.foodpolitics.com/tag/gm-genetically-modified/ http://www.responsibletechnology.org/GMFree/GMODangers/GMOsinFood/index.cfm | ||
| ali Unregistered guest |
Im right there with you guys on this one. I recently found out that while Ireland has a "sort of" gmo free policy we are in fact the biggest importers of gmo animal feed in Europe...thats scary!!! People look at me like im mad if i raise the topic. I expect you all know that feeling. I recently was sent a petition to sign (electronically via email) to oppose the planned introduction of more GMO crops to in Europe. I posted on my facebook page, and out of 100 on my friends list NOT ONE person signed it!!! No interest whatsoever. I regularly post articles on GMO and other food related horrors that dont get read or generate any interest. Its is infuriating to think that people will only sit up and take and notice of what is on their plate and the damage it is doing us when it is too late, if it isnt too late already. Rant over!!! | ||
| Di Unregistered guest |
ali, I've had similar experiences with trying to educate my friends and family - no one seems interested. It's all very frustrating. Everyone seem interested in how their food looks, how it tastes, how fast they can get a meal and how cheaply they can buy it - not what's in it. I think if they bought into the "poison" facts, they fear they would have to change their lifestyles, and that isn't something most people want to do. | ||
| ali Unregistered guest |
I think you have hit the nail on the head Di, fear of the unknown, fear of having to learn to cook, fear of all the time it will take, fear of the cost etc. But im living testiment that ANYONE can learn to cook. Believe me , its been a steep learning curve, but i wouldnt trade my new skills for all the packet mixes in the world. And all the energy i now have from my improved diet, means i have the get up and go, to crack on in the kitchen and enjoy the challenges of shopping on a budget and eating well. All positive when the efforts made. I wish others would believe me. | ||
| Jerry Story Unregistered guest |
"Food Biggest Secret Alex Jones PT1" http://www.youtube.com/user/InfowarsCanada#p/u/0/22t9PoXjR3g | ||
| Jerry Story Unregistered guest |
part 2 http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel#p/u/0/-B9MeO3SRxU I think Monsanto is in the business of ruining food. On purpose. | ||
| Jerry Story Unregistered guest |
"John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet Book he authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures to control the population" http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/ I think Monsanto is in on this. | ||
| Evelyn Unregistered guest |
It may not be mainstream at this point, but the growth of local farmers markets and CSAs points to some success in grassroots efforts aimed at the food industry, as well as documentaries, like Food, Inc. showing on television. Those who care will get the message. We are a small voice, growing louder each day. Gotta go water my garden  | ||
| DebA. Unregistered guest |
Jerry, it truly frightens me to know what is being done to this country, our food, and our health. | ||
| bo'nana Unregistered guest |
Likewise... likewise...likewise. aaarggh. thank you Jerry, for the link. ugh. much there to consider. thank you again DebA, for this forum which allows us to openly share our concerns from so many different angles. im with you too Evelyn- think i will also go out & water my garden now... keep fighting for the truth to be freely known. i'm praying HIS Mercies to us all | ||
| Pat Unregistered guest |
Jerry, thanks for posting the links. I didn't realize that every nook & cranny of our food supply is putrefied. Pathetic how our food chain has been Frankenstein'd. I wonder what those "visions of the anointed" are eating! It's up to us to forward those links to enlighten others so we can forge change by speaking with our feet. When we don't buy, the mfgr's must change. Pat |
