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Jennifer
Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 9:50 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This might sound weird, but I picked up a potato. The regular kind and my hand started burning. After a couple of minutes I had joint pain in that hand and my veins were popping up. My guess is that the potato was spayed with AuxiGro. Can anyone else not touch glutamate or MSG?

Our local health food store doesn't have little red potatoes anymore. The only place I can get little red potatoes is at the grocery store. I hate going to it, because I can't really eat anything in the store.
Roy Piwovar
Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 12:18 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The link below lists a professor's publications, one of which is about "glutamate receptors in peripheral axons of human skin".

Perhaps the skin can detect glutamate.

http://www.utmb.edu/mbi/members/carlton.html
(& look under "Kinkelin")
MEMorrisNJ
Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:21 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

1. My allergist says that some people who have skin reactions to food or food additives may react if the suspect food is placed directly on a "scratch" when she is doing a scratch test. (She hasn't had anyone show more internal reactions such as digestive problems or migraines.) For folks with skin sensitivities, she encourages them to to bring in food samples to test this out.
2. Besides auxi-gro, I am positive the non-organic potatoes that I buy are sprayed or dipped with something to stop them from growing eyes and shoots quickly.
Judy T
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 2:03 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Roy, You are a never ending source of information. My heavens! Boy, am I glad you're going to New Jersey in October. I can hardly wait to pick your brain. What I'm wondering (and maybe this was answered before); are the points of glutamate receptors mapped? are there a finite number? what do they 'look' like? are they the same physical composition?
Deb A.
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 3:06 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Glutamate receptors have been found in the breast, lungs, pancreas, eyes, skin, and of course the brain. Scientists were surprised to find them in the first two places in recent years. They are probably in many other areas we don't know about yet.
Roy Piwovar
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 3:23 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Judy T,

Deb A. is the real brain here. She wrote the book. I only link to them.
Carol H
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 3:48 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Roy, I have to say, I was really psyched to hear you might come to New Jersey. It will be quite an honor to meet you in person. It isn't easy to find really good links, but you consistently find them - every time. You have been so invaluable to everyone here - and especially in creating the MSGTruth site. Often I have put links on there that you have found. Thanks for continuing to inspire us with your wonderful detective work. It really is appreciated.
Jennifer
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 4:17 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Roy is the Link King! :)

Wow Deb, I had know idea about all the Glutamate receptors.

On the good news atleast I'm warned before I eat glueamate sometimes. Just a burning hand & pain isn't that bad compared to if I would of ate it. I guess I really have to be careful of what I touch. Thanks for the information!!!
Deb A.
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 4:34 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Roy, you are such a super sleuth, and so is Tom...all our hats off to you! MEMorris comes through for us a lot, too. I brag about all of you all the time....just emailed Jack Samuels with a question...the REAL brain, and I told him how great all of you were here. I made Mike promise that if something should happen to me, he would keep the site and this board going!! :)
Yes, you sound very chemically sensitive, Jenn, and I believe that someone once said that they could react to the smell of MSG cooking in a pot of soup...was it Tom? I remember handling some oranges once, and my hands began to burn. I called one of my mentors back then, and she said there are many powerful preservatives that are often added to the waxy coating on some produce.
Tom Fernstrom
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 7:59 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb A,

Yes, in one of my postings I coined the phrase "second hand MSG" when discussing reactions to the steam from cooking foods with MSG or the reactions I used to encounter at the grocery store (especially when shopping in the early mornings shortly after nightly shelf restocking).

Can you imagine all the people who are now avoiding ingesting MSG laced products but are still getting accosted with second hand MSG? I think this is one of the reasons my continued supplementation of Taurine, Magnesium, B complex vitamins and CoQ10 is necessary to protect me from these unseen sources.
Anonymous
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 12:17 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I touched a plant in the garden and had a allergic reaction, this was 5 months ago and i still feel ill and feel sick everytime i eat. I also suffer from tonsilitis and usual have the normal antibiotics but last time i had another allerigic reaction 20mins after taking a tablet.I have had afew blood test but they always come back inconclusive. I dont want to feel like this any more but i dont know what to do about it.
Connie M.
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 6:11 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You could be allergic to the plant you are eating? Also you could be allergic to the antibiotic you took? Your doctor should of caught on to this.Have you told them? You should never take a medication after having an allergic reaction to it.You might just need a new med. to replace this one. And to find out what is causing the tonsillitis. There were some talks here about tonsillitis and tonsil problems.

Each time you take a medication you are allergic to, you could have a worse reaction the next time!!!!I am allergic to a few meds. and I keep a list and never take them!!!!

I don't know as much as some of the others, they might be able to help you more. But I just worry about you eating or taking something you keep having a reaction to. I would cut both of them out right now. The doctor should be able to give you a replacement for the antibiotic. Better yet mayabe find out why you keep getting tonsillitis.

I used to get strep throat a lot. I have to get surgery not long from now for another problem but if I can be of any help, please post. But I have been here a few months. Some others a few years, and they know even more then me!!!!!

Take care, hang in there. Hope you feel better. You can feel better.
Connie M.
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 6:15 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh sorry I just reread your post, you are saying since you touched the plant you feel sick when you eat anything? I am not sure what to tell you if this is the case? I am sure some others might have some answers.Hope you feel better.
Connie M.
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 11:30 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't know if any of these links may help? Some may not be related to your condition. I was on a celiac disease board and someone was talking about being sensitive, allergic? to some plants, tomatoes, potatoes, and peppers.These are the nightshade foods. They get ill when they touch the plants or the stuff too.

A lot of us here do not do well with eating tomatoes. I think potatoes are bothering me.

http://www.craigsams.com/pages/nomato.html

http://www.allergymagazine.com/features/2005/jul/nightshade.html

http://www.organicfood.co.uk/inspiration/craig_nightshadefoods.html

If you see this or anyone wants more info, please post. I will see if I can get more info. They take a lot of charcoal tablets, doctor told them to, when accidently exposed. And get other treatment for the migraine they get, etc....
MEMorrisNJ
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 11:57 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Peter - Are you out there? See Connie's find at
http://www.allergymagazine.com/features/2005/sep/headaches.html for headaches and AVOCADOS (and alot of other foods)and headaches: the food issue
According to Allergy UK, about 10 per cent of migraine sufferers find that their attacks are triggered by food. A 2004 survey by Nurofen found that 14 per cent of migraine sufferers believe that chocolate triggers their migraines, 12 per cent say that cheese is the culprit and 11 per cent claim that red wine is to blame. Over 30 per cent avoid food or drinks that they know trigger an attack.

Research has also revealed that chemicals in these foods, called amines, play an important role in migraines. These chemicals (eg, tyramine, histamine, serotonin and nitrites) constrict the arteries around the brain, which can provoke a migraine in susceptible people.

'Food intolerances (especially to foods that contain a natural histamine) are a major trigger,’ says Dr Morris. 'Fermented cheese, tuna fish, smoked ham and processed sausages, tomato, sauerkraut, AVOCADO, spinach, wine and chocolate are common culprits.’
MEMorrisNJ
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 12:02 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Connie - Are you saying you have taken charcoal tablets? How are they for you? I always wanted to use them to take just before I experiment with a new food because I understand you can see when you pass them and if so, this would help me determine if I was having a digestive reaction to the new food.
Has anyone else tried them this way?
PS Connie Thanks for those web sites!
Connie M.
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 4:11 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi, I have not tried them in a long time. I did not know about msg and everything then. Tried them for stomach problems. I tried charcoal capsules though in the past. I have been looking for the tablets to try. Will probably have to find those on line?
Roy Piwovar
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 8:30 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Connie M.,

They are sold at some drug store chains, such as Walgreen's. Here's an online seller:

http://store.darisimall.com/rech.html

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