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Judy T
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 9:28 am: |    |
Interesting site: doctoryourself.com/caffeine_allergy.html A discussion about caffeine relating to those who take epinephrine (which is good and necessary for some) clear to ADD and rosacea. Just interesting. |
Suzanne
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 10:20 am: | |
What do you all know about fluoride for kids...I took my five year old in for his physical and the doctor said he should be taking it. I haven't been giving it to my kids (In Colorado, it was in the water but here in Washington, where i've lived for 2 and a half years, it has to be taken), the dentists say to take it. I've heard it's bad. What is the truth? |
Carol H
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 2:27 pm: | |
Suzanne, fluoride can interfere with the thyroid. Go with your instincts. Your dentist can provide a flouride rinse when you get a checkup, and there are flouride toothpastes. That should be all you need to do. The dentists don't care and don't have to know what it does to the rest of the body. I wouldn't take it. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 2:33 pm: | |
Check out this page as well: http://www.mercola.com/2000/sept/10/green_tea_fluoride_thyroid.htm
Deb A, just a thought.... but when you were having troubles with regulating your thyroid meds, were you also drinking a lot of green tea? |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 3:36 am: | |
The article link here suggests stevia (related to chrysanthemums) as a substitute for aspartame:
http://www.laleva.cc/food/stevia_aspartame.html |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 6:03 am: | |
No, Carol, no green tea. But I am from the "goiter belt" in the Great Lakes region, where there is no iodine in the produce or fish...my mother had to have a goiter removed and my sister and I take thyroid. However, I know that my need for thyroid goes up and down, and I feel it is related to the effects of glutamate in my diet.
Interestingly, when I was eating MSG all the time, I had a cavity every time I went to see my doctor. When I made the MSG connection and decided to avoid toothpaste, since all or most of them have sources of glutamate and/or aspartate, I asked my doctor if I could just use baking soda. He told me it was better than toothpaste. So that's what I did. I couldn't believe the difference...my teeth no longer had "fuzzy coats" in the morning, and in 7 years since using soda, I have had no cavitites, my gumline stopped receding, and my teeth feel clean all day. And I don't avoid sugar. From what I have read about fluoride, I would not want it in my kid's toothpaste or in the water. Just my personal opinion. For variety once in a while, and a nice flavor in my mouth, I sometimes use anise flavored Homeodent (from France) or Weleda salt toothpaste with baking soda(mint). Both are at our health food store. |
Suzanne
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 7:34 pm: | |
Interesting about the baking soda, Deb...After reading the site above about fluoride, I don't think I want to give it to my kids either....and the ironic thing is, that after all this in here yesterday, I saw in the paper (here in Tri-cities, WA) THIS MORNING about starting to talk about putting fluoride in Richland's water. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 2:48 pm: | |
I bet the pharmaceutical companies that make drugs to treat hypothyroid disorder are just all for mandatory flouridation  |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 3:45 pm: | |
The article linked below links aspartame (nutrasweet) use with breast and other cancers:
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4578/page8.html |
Lisa Marie
| | Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 11:43 am: | |
Hi guys,
I need to ask a question for my daughter. (please forgive me that I don't know the answer to it myself exactly)
Is aspartic acid the same thing as aspartame? She just got some vitamins which contain aspartic acid.
Has anyone heard of or tried "Kyo-Green" made by Wakunaga? She thinks it has wheat grasses etc. that will help her feel better.
Thanks for your help in answering these! |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 3:52 pm: | |
Lisa Marie,
Aspartic acid is not the same thing as aspartame, which is used in some Children's vitamins and requires a warning label. I won't buy anything with just aspartic acid on the label because I suspect the processing required to refine it for use in vitamins would result in a free form similar to that used in aspartame, and free aspartic acid is a neurotoxin like unbound glutamate.
Aspartame has additional bad ingredients in it besides aspartic acid, as discussed in the link below:
http://www.greenwitch.co.uk/soapbox01.htm
"Kyo-Green" by Wakunaga, a product of Japan that they boast is "tasty", contains green algae and kelp, both potential sources of unbound glutamate. I'd avoid it.
http://www.kyolic.com/html/products/greens/kyogreen.htm |
Lisa Marie
| | Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 6:14 pm: | |
Hi Roy,
Thank you so much. I knew you would be able to help me. I told my daughter not to open that stuff until I found out some information from you. She is not (yet) sensitive to MSG, however she suffers from severe heartburn on a daily basis. I am trying to convince her that perhaps she really may have a gluten or dairy allergy which is contributing to the problem. I am so thankful that you also can supply these factual links. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 3:16 am: | |
Lisa Marie,
I just wanted to add that aspartic acid occurs naturally in many foods and should not be harmful in its bound form.
Regarding the heartburn, although your daughter is not in the main risk group for Barrett's Esophagus, a precancerous condition, she should still see a doctor about her problem.
http://www.barrettsinfo.com/content/2_could_i_have_barretts.htm |
Lisa Marie
| | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 10:07 am: | |
Roy,
Thank you again for the link. She finally listened to me and went to the doctor this morning. She has been on Prilosec and now Prevacid for at least 7 years. She never remembers being able to drink orange juice-for years she thought it was normal to have the burning in her chest.
The doctor is taking her seriously, and wants to scope her. He also told her to up her Prevaced to twice a day.
She is so upset over all this, and wants to figure out what she is "allergic" to. For instance, she can't tolerate Rasin Bran, ever, and now she wonders if she has a wheat problem. She also says sometimes milk calms her stomach, othertimes not. But there are many many other foods which give her problems-those are just examples.
Also, last summer her singing group did a mission trip to Guatemala, and she got H-Pylori--however, that supposedly was treated and cured. Now they are going to Nicaragua in January.
I would appreciate any comments about this-knowing it may not necessarily be MSG, but what are other's experiences? I did to a word search for acid reflux and got so many returns that I haven't been able to read them all yet.
I am a worried worried mother. Thank you. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 1:22 pm: | |
Lisa Marie, I'm wondering why you and your daughter are dismissing MSG as a possible cause for her stomach problems. Many people I hear from, including myself, suffered acid reflux, stomach distress, diahrea, colitis, and IBS for years as a direct result of MSG, aspartame and sulfites. |
Lisa Marie
| | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 2:04 pm: | |
Hi Deb,
Oh, believe me, I am not dismissing MSG as the cause of this. I think she believes me, but of course, she is not assertive enough to bring this to a doctor's attention, especially at the first visit. I have already sent her the post from Carol about how MSG could be the underlying problem with acid reflux. She has been complaining about heartburn practically since she could talk. She travels on a bus with her singing group, and they never get to eat on a schedule, or descently, for that matter. I really wonder if there is a way she could do an elimination diet to figure out some relief for herself. It concerns me greatly that the doctor already mentioned that she might be an ideal candidate for surgery the very first time she saw him. Thanks Deb. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 4:12 pm: | |
Deb A.,
It's not all in your head:
http://www.aikidoaus.com.au/dojo/docs/2nd_braina.htm |
Carol H
| | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:35 pm: | |
Lisa Marie - be aware that recent studies show that antacids could make food allergies worse. There are things your daughter can do to decrease her heart burn troubles. My doctor told me to not eat close to bedtime, to sleep with my head elevated and also to avoid raw fruit juices, foods high in fat, and not to overeat at any meal. Foods like chocolate and caffeine cause the valve keeping the contents in the stomach to open and let stomach acid up into the throat. This is an especially noticable problem for me, I have found. When I have reflux now, I drink plenty of water and follow all of these precautions. I try to avoid the need for antacids which may make my allergies worse. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 3:27 am: | |
Antacids and Food Allergy Connection:
http://allergies.about.com/b/a/025728.htm |
Lisa Marie
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 3:37 am: | |
Roy and Carol,
Thank you for these posts and links. I know that my daughter has followed those instructions as her doctor (and I) have told her those same things. She lives in Nashville. I am wondering if anyone on the board could recommend a Wholistic physician in that area? Roy, the article you posted about "It's Not All in Your Head" is particularly on target for her as a performer. She definately has a "nervous stomach." Of course I am forwarding everything I learn from you all on to her. Thank you. |
Valerie
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 9:31 am: | |
Roy,
Very interesting article "It's not all in your head". Made me feel better since I still cannot find the reason for my worsening IBS. I am consulting with an Ayurvedic Dr. this friday and will keep you posted with those results. Anyone ever try Ayurveda? |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 10:10 am: | |
Excellent article, Roy. Thanks for shedding some light on the stomach reactions I suffered for years...wow...it's obvious to me the effect that glutamate played on my "second brain"...it probably caused the inflammation and associated chronic diarrhea and constipation mentioned. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 3:24 pm: | |
www.mercola.com has excellent article on splenda in today's newsletter of Jan. 10 |
Carol H
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 12:11 pm: | |
Valerie, have you been checked for celiac disease? Celiac patients often are also sensitive to MSG. |
Lisa Marie
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 3:20 am: | |
Saw Dr. Weil on Larry King last night. I will post a link to what he said about eating salmon. I searched his site under MSG and found only 2 meager references. Yet on the show he said that he is convinced that the increases in the rates of obesity and diabetes are because of consuming refined foods. I wonder why he hasn't linked MSG to any of the problems he addresses?
Link:
http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html-command=TodayQA-pt=Question |
Jackye
| | Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 9:42 pm: | |
I agree with Dr. Weil's words on salmon. I had a huge reaction to farmed salmon, and was non-reactive to the wild salmon. Salmon is naturally rich in histamine. |
jolts
| | Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 8:51 pm: | |
Ok...now this is getting rediculous! Lately I've been drinking Evian water because it tastes good & is ph balanced. I have a few 1.5L bottles here. I looked more closely at the label & it contains sulfites. Now what the heck is sulfite doing in water? Any comments?
Thanks...Pat Sr |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 4:58 pm: | |
Most bottled water has sulfites added as a preservative....kills those pesky molds and bacteria...or at least prevents them from growing...of course they don't think about what that poison is doing to humans, too. In fact, in super markets where people can pay to refill their gallon water bottles with water, the tubes are cleaned with a sulfite solution. |
jolts
| | Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 9:10 am: | |
Deb A...thanks for your reply. I still say though that's it's rediculous to being careful which water we take. Would you know if tap water has sulfites?
Thanks in advance...Pat Sr |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 3:26 pm: | |
It will vary from area to area as to the source and treatment of tap water. I'm sure you could get a read out of the additive and microbe readings for the water in your area if you call the water treatment department. |
jolts
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 8:39 am: | |
My sea salt contains calcium silicate & I'm not sure if I should be avoiding this. I did a search on this site but nothing came up. Then I did a google search & this is what I came up with so far.Skin, eye and respiratory irritant. Calcium silicate is a white, odorless, tasteless, anti-caking agent with no nutritional characteristics. Anti-caking agents basically serve to absorb moisture inside the package that would otherwise be absorbed by the salt. In this manner, it permits salt to keep its freeflowing characteristics. It is added at less than one half-percent. I also believe I saw that it is a neurotoxin. Any comments?
Pat Sr |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 2:41 pm: | |
I thought it was basically sand. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 2:42 pm: | |
I opt for canning salt or kosher salt.....no additives. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 11:57 am: | |
Beware of the new Florida Naturals drinks. I used to do fine with Florida Natural brand orange juice...plain, no calcium added. It also said "no preservatives" on the package. Then I noticed that they changed the package and it no longer says that. But I noticed they had a new product that said "all natural" (yeah, I fall for that sometimes, too). One of the blended fruit drinks was orange juice and pineapple and that's all that was on the label..not from concentrate. I usually react to sulfites in fruit beverages. Then I noticed they had another flavor in the same brand of blended juices, and it was mango and orange. This time I didn't read the label, assuming it was the same as their pineapple version. However, when I drank it, I felt nauseated and had sharp stomach pains within 20 minutes. I read the label, and it said, orange juice, mango juice, and "Natural Flavor"...that elusive phrase. I called and got a letter assuring me that it contained no glutamate (they spelled that wrong so I doubt they even know what it is), MSG, phosphates, or sulfites. I would have dismissed it, but my pregnant daughter in law sneaked a drink and told me that she felt awful and had stomach pains soon after drinking a glass. I am now wondering, since the drink was very sweet, if aspartame or some chemical similar to it is now being added and labeled as "natural flavor". I am suspicious that fruit juice makers would prefer to avoid adding sugar and having to label that since it has a bad name in "natural foods". They would rather add a chemical that sweetens but can be called "Natural Flavors". I intend to call and ask again. Any ideas about this? |
Sharon S.
| | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 3:43 pm: | |
Neotame is a cousin to aspartame and it doesn't have to be labeled if it is less than one percent of the product in the food it is added to. I got this info in my Pure Facts newsletter from The Feingold Association. It is 30 times sweeter than aspartame so only a tiny amount is needed. It isn't being sold to the consumer but it is being put into food products and more than likely will be a mixture of artificial sweeteners but may also just be in the 'natural flavors' description. Some manufacturers hide aspartame in foods, supplements and medicines, by simply saying "contains phenylalanine". UGH!! all this just makes me SICK!! and I don't have to ingest or touch it! |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 7:18 am: | |
Severe msg reaction to sweet potatoes. Has anyone had this? Chill feeling, flashing lights, overall not good, the whole thing. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 10:00 am: | |
Anonymous,
Do you react to organic sweet potatoes, also? If not, you may be sensitive to some of the herbicides, such as roundup, used to control weeds when growing sweet potatoes.
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/WG/WG03900.pdf |
Hoteru
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 10:58 am: | |
Dear All,
Thank you so many times for all the information you post. Without this site I would be sick all the time.
In a recent professional journal I saw a full page ad for a seminar for sports medicine in which the big sell was a glutathione product to be used to increase sports endurance, big push, big dollars, learn all this trash and push it in your office and make LOTS of money! Of course gluatathione breaks down into glutamic acid if I remember correctly. This is what is being pushed to doctors, no wonder we don't get any help when we go to a doctor. No wonder we get ridicule in
many cases. I can just hear it now, "MSG can't hurt you sweetie, " (talking down to the poor stupid little woman) "why we use it with the finest atheletes to increase their endurance"!
I have also seen recently in professional journals straight glutamate pills to be used for pain relief, got a miagraine or a muscle strain, pop the glutaminate. Great advice!
Lastly my mother called to tell me about this wonderful television show she saw on PBS in which a doctor recommended taking seaweed for chronic fatigue, which is his specialty. Since seaweed is the orginal Japanese source of glutamate which became refined into MSG he was, knowingly or unknowingly, (And why didn't he know if he was such a grand specialist?) recommending everyone take glutamate for chronice fatigue, I am sure it would make me feel so much better if I were down and out.
I know, I know, it is time to go over and sit in the carrot juice corner and cool off with Jerry before I get too wild. Can't help it, I am fighting for my life here, just want to be healthy and happy the way nature intended! Move over Jerry, God bless you and your wild ways, you bring a lot of energy to the board even when we see things differently I am glad you are here.
Don't say much but read the board every day, you are my lifeline. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 2:32 pm: | |
'Thank you ,Roy, I should have known better. IF, that is IF, I ever eat them again. It is a really scary feeling. Haven't had this reaction in a long time and now I know what it is. |
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Deb A.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 10:50 am: | |
This story about genetically modified corn that contains a substance that makes men sterile, was sent to me recently:
http://www.matchdoctor.com/blog_85536/Covert_Sterilization.html |
Dianne
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 7:09 am: | |
Not that any of us will be ingesting this junk but here's one more thing to warn people about.
From: Dr. Mercola:
"....Now, a quarter of the 45,000 items in the average supermarket contain processed corn, often in the form of high-fructose corn syrup.
The result? Rates of chronic diseases like cancer and Type 2 diabetes are much higher today than they were in 1900. Type 2 diabetes is a $100 billion a year consequence of, among other things, obesity related to a corn-based diet. Four of the top 10 causes of American deaths -- coronary heart disease, diabetes, stroke and cancer – have well-established links to diet as well.
Making matters worse, by now you may have seen “crystalline fructose” as an ingredient in beverages.
If you’ve been wondering what it was, it turns out that crystalline fructose “is produced by allowing the fructose to crystallize from a fructose-enriched corn syrup.” This information is from the sugar producers themselves. So, it is made from corn syrup, and not only corn syrup, but “fructose enriched” corn syrup. Sounds like another name for high fructose corn syrup.
Fructose and glucose are metabolized differently in the body. Glucose is metabolized in every cell in the body, but all fructose must be metabolized in the liver. When a diet includes a large amount of fructose, then it creates a fatty liver, and even cirrhosis. Crystalline Fructose contains a 99.5 percent minimum of fructose assay, which is an even higher percentage of fructose than regular HFCS!
Another ingredient of crystalline fructose is arsenic. Additional chemical compounds that make up crystalline fructose are heavy metals, lead, and chloride." |
Deb A.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 2:10 pm: | |
Someone is knowingly destroying our nation's health. "Let the buyer beware" sure takes on new meaning today...and the food and pharma companies are so greedy, they are running our and our children's health into the ground. |
Deb A.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 8:17 am: | |
I just received my e-newsletter from Dr. Mercola. He talks about the dangers of agave...has a higher fructose number than high fructose corn syrup, contaminants and chemicals like sulfur used in the process to make it. Time to do some more research. |
kristy
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 1:18 am: | |
I looked up at that post about HFCS from Dr. Mercola last April and I have to laugh.
"A quarter of the 45,000 items in the average supermarket contain processed corn"
That is such a monstrous underestimation. If only that were true, my life would sure be a lot easier.  I would estimate the percentage to be around 85% or 90% since it is in most meat and dairy and produce. I think they are only counting the food in packages and the hidden corn is actually hidden even from Dr. Mercola. |
Debbey
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 10:46 am: | |
I just saw another commercial about how wonderful it is that the soda companies are putting diet soda in schools so the children get fewer calories and less sugar. Can you imagine the amount of nutrasweet and splenda children will be drinking/i remember reading a report about baseball the sun and nutrasweet-how bad it was for children will have to see if I can find it again so sad |
Mariann
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 1:04 pm: | |
debbey, you know when I heard that the big companies were complying with getting less fattening choices in the schools, I thought 'Oh, how, by giving them sugar free poison instead" Now here it is. The blind get blinder, but there are many people out there that are realizing, even some Doctors. I had a friend visit me yesterday and she wanted to pick my brain about Msg and its cousins. Her husbands internist gave him a list of things to stay away from to help his IBS and fibromyalgia. Can you imagine a Dr. seeing this, yippee I say. I sat with her for about an hour and a half. Gave her a list of foods to start with, the names of the web sites to go to and offered to give her lessens on how to make her own bread. I am so happy. I just signed a petition regarding not being able to label foods "not GMO". She was the first person I asked to sign it. I am going to try to post it here so you all can do it as well. Mariann |
Mariann
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 4:42 am: | |
Kristy, I have been seeing a lot in the news about your area, I am hoping all is well with you. Mariann |
Mariann
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 1:37 pm: | |
Hey guys, I just heard what I thought was going to be information about organic gardening on the radio. It turned out to be an info-mercial about a "NEW Inovative" product. It is an organic fertilizer. Converted Organics of Maine to be sold at Whole Foods and Home Depot. They say it is naturally occuring, a Fungi, they used the words Phytosome and Micro user to describe it. They said that the Fungi will be self perpetuating because when it interacts with the roots, it becomes self perpetuating. It promotes root growth and plant production. I am not loving this. I am going to check it out at their web site, but I wanted to alert you all to this. Does anyone know about this. How about you Roy o pedia. You always have good info. Mariann |
Roy Piwovar
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 2:21 pm: | |
Roy o pedia link to Converted Organics "for a safer world":
http://www.convertedorganics.com/products/agriculture/agricultural-products |
Mariann
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 4:08 pm: | |
Thanks Roy, I knew I could count on you. I will be doing some studying now. Weigh in whoever would like. I want to know if we have another Auxigro on our hands. Mariann |
Deb A.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 12:29 pm: | |
Debbey and Mariann, I just saw that commercial about lowering the sugar consumption in schools and it made me sick. It's almost like someone wants our children to suffer. The FDA HAS to know how dangerous aspartame is. I just saw a new product for the garden. It was a pesticide/nutrient, I think. I noticed that Disney characters were on the front of the bag and in big letters, "made from corn gluten". Can't remember the name, but it looks like we are doomed to see more of these products. Give me old fashioned chicken or steer manure, please. |
Mariann
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 1:56 pm: | |
Deb yes I agree about the manure. They in fact singled out how ridiculous it is to use manure from horses, cows or chickens when you can get a multi faceted fertilizer from their product. I am getting heirloom seeds this year and will continue to collect them, so I can replicate my own garden. I am worried that organic farmers may start using this stuff. I hate it when they make me crazy. (big laugh). Ugh corn gluten, that has to have Kristy rolling her eyes. My nephew joined the Army Medical Corp soon. I grabbed him at our annual Easter family gathering and begged him not to drink the readily available diet soda over seas. Mariann |
kristy
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 1:17 am: | |
Hey Guys,
Mississippi was hit by a record tornado but nothing in my area, luckily. It hardly even rained here so we were quite relieved.
I was diagnosed with IBS and fibromyalgia before I removed food additives from my diet. I think it is really smart for anyone with those diagnoses to avoid all food additives and packaged foods. That was what cured me of both "diseases".
This is one of my favorite sites about food secrets: http://www.fooducate.com/blog/
I think the word is getting out slowly but surely. I just stopped a lady in Walmart garden center the other day because she was letting her 4yo (estimate) drink a diet Dr. Pepper. I told her that aspartame was a deadly neurotoxin and that no one should be ingesting it, but it is especially harmful for young children. I told her she should read up on it a little bit and she would be appalled at the information about it that isn't common knowledge. I know she was probably embarrassed but I hope she will at least start wondering about it and do some reading. At the very least, it made me feel better because I tried to help. I sometimes can't help but open my mouth to strangers, but I try to limit it to instances of especially heinous deeds.
Mariann, I am so glad to see you back on the board. I am glad you are doing so well and had such an agreeable doctor. Yeah, I was rolling my eyes over the corn gluten Disney crap. I hate it that everyone thinks that corn is an ecologically sound alternative for chemical plastics and petroleum products. Growing huge monoculture GMO crops is one of the worst things for our environment and the future of this country. It makes me think of biofuels and how asinine that is....we are supposed to believe that we are doing a good thing by using foreign oil to cultivate, protect from pests, fertilize and harvest GMO corn and then transport it (using foreign oil) to be processed into ethanol (processing uses quite a bit of electricity - mostly generated by burning the tops of our former mountain ranges "clean coal" HA). This sounds more like musical chairs instead of an actual logical step toward being less dependant on foreign oil. It's really ridiculous when you look at the whole process. And because it was shoved down our throats as a "green" alternative, I now get a reaction every time I fill up my car.
Roy, Converted Organics sure sounds like corn to me. Won't that be fantastic if they can manage to get corn into my produce before it even gets grown. |
Mariann
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 6:05 am: | |
Kristy good for you. Even if it fell on deaf ears then, it will sink in later. What Mom wants to hurt her child? If you don't know you can't make a change. You did your part. As I said on an earlier post, I am collecting heirloom seeds and working on re-building my compost, after the high water. So glad you are OK. Stay well. Mariann |
Debbey
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 1:49 pm: | |
article on Supreme Court and GM seed
GMO scares me
we call soy "round up ready" corn too and NOW alfalfa
so if you eat a hamburger are you eating mass amounts of GMO stuff even if "green"
unfortunately those who control the seed
will controll the food and
will controll the world
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/201004250405/BUSINESS01/4250320 |
kristy
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 11:50 pm: | |
Debbey, As for your question about eating hamburger....I am allergic to corn and I can't tolerate cornfed beef. This indicates to me that the GMO corn is being passed along to the consumer of the beef that it is fed to. The same goes for milk and eggs. I really worry about alfalfa because GMO alfalfa is a way to make sure that everyone gets hefty doses of GMO with their food, even those of us that choose pasture raised animal products.
Here is a list of GMO crops for human consumption evaluated by the FDA in 2002:
Corn
Squash
Soybean
Cantaloupe
Tomato
Papaya
Rice
Canola
Potato
Radish
Cotton
Sugar Beet
Flax
Note that many of these have more than one genetic modification. |
Di
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| | Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 3:04 am: | |
kristy, What about organic beef, milk and eggs? Do they contain corn or other GMOs too? I changed to the expensive organic varities of these but now I wonder if I should be eating any of it. |
Mariann
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| | Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 5:58 am: | |
This just makes the cost of collecting heirloom seeds diminish. It is like a runaway freight train. So I am getting off and growing more of my own stuff. Mariann |
kristy
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| | Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 9:00 pm: | |
Di, I can't say whether your organic meats contain GMOs, but I do know that GMO corn-derived lactic acid and citric acid is allowed by the USDA for processing organic meats. It seems unlikely that the processors would choose something much more expensive when the cheap GMO sprays are legal, so I just assume the organic meat in my store is corntaminated and at $12 a whole chicken, I have no desire to test my assumption.
I bought my beef (half a cow) from a farmer in my area that I trust. I had it processed in a place that did it to my specifications so no corn ever touched it. I am hoping he will do pastured chickens for me next year. He already does them for his family, but if I commit to buying a certain number, he said he could probably do it for me, too.
Organic eggs usually contain corn or soy but I can't tell whether it is GMO or not from my reactions. I just know that I do react to organic eggs. I found one brand that I can tolerate, but there is still corn or soy in small amounts present.
Milk should be bought raw. All vitamin D milk is fortified using corn oil as a carrier for the (almost certainly corny) synthetic vitamin D. This includes organic milk. Even if they were to claim to use organic corn oil (mythical creature that it is - and none do as far as I know), the vitamins are made with GMO corn. If you can find an organic milk that isn't fortified, I think it will be ultra-pasteurized. At least, the only ones I could find in my research were and I avoid ultrapasteurized. Most people on this board should, too, for glutamate reasons if not for any of the other reasons.
I just found raw goat milk at the farmers market. I can't wait to try making my own dairy kefir and start making yogurt again. The goats are fed a grain mix when milking and it does contain corn, but I am hoping that it won't matter for us. They are on pasture and eat grass all the time except for when they are being milked. I think this is as good as it is going to get for us without getting our own cow or goats so I am going to try it.
Mariann, It was so hard for me to get started this year that I used some seedlings from local nurseries, but next year I will start my own seedlings with heirloom seeds. Even buying hybrids seems to nettle me these days. I wish everyone would buy heirloom seeds so that the seed savers will be able to afford to stay in business. I bought some last year - I don't ever want to buy conventional seeds again. I don't even know if they have to label GMO seeds as GMO?
By the way, all cheese made in the US commercially is made using GMO enzymes (chymosin) that are grown on a GMO corn medium. GMO chymosin was one of the first GMOs foisted onto the unsuspecting American consumer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rennet |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 9:27 am: | |
We keep learning so many things from each other...it's so great! |
Di
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| | Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 10:13 am: | |
kristy, Wish I could find raw milk but for now organic will have to do. Glad you have found beef and raw goat milk near by and a brand of eggs you can eat. With all the care you are taking you are probably the healthiest person in your state! |
Mariann
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| | Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 12:21 pm: | |
Kristy I think when they hybridize plants they mess with the make-up, if you try to save those seeds until the next year you are not sure what you will get, so heirloom is the definite way to go. Mariann |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 4:51 pm: | |
roy, i have a question for you... i originally posted it in response to one of your older comments under "natures gate sunscreen", but the search page randomly redirects to a thread about "naturipe strawberries" (huh?!?)
i wonder if this board might have gotten sabotaged, this is sure happening a lot! wow, i hope not, this board is a Survival Tool for so many of us canaries!!!
anyway, my question is about dimethicone & other common chems in personal products- you sound like you might react in the same ways that i am suspecting i do... i would love to hear your perspective!
(here is the text of the original post- (the only way i found it was to go back and repeat my original search that led to your comment in the first place)...
"Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 4:18 pm:
hi roy, i have a question for you about the dimethicone... how do you react? and also, do you find you are reactive to other common ingredients in skin or haircare products?
i have a connective tissue disorder and a suspicion that i too am reacting to the -cones & -canes as they are all related to silicone, which is a no-no for Sclerodermics.
i got rid of all my hair products last year becoz my hair was falling out like crazy, that seemed to help for awhile but now its coming out again and my skin problems just wont quit!
i have only used herb-infused olive oil and stevia on my face for the past couple months but now i think i need to stop using bottled hand lotions or creams too...
anyway, i am having a hard time pinning any specific reaction to anything except the sulfates (which i KNOW make my hair fall out) but the 'really good' organic brands dont seem to bring any relief either. so now i am thinking there must be some very common processed ingredient that they all use, regular and fancy shmancy organic alike.
can you shed any light based on your own experiences? thank yu sooo much!" |
kristy
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 5:35 pm: | |
bo'nana, I just have to say that your problem sounds related to collagen. Lyme disease and its coinfections destroy collagen and attack connective tissue. Does your skin feel very dry and papery in places? Do you have chronically dry skin that no amount of lotion or oils will fix? What about healing? Do you take longer to heal every little scratch or tend to scar over the least little bump or scrape? Do you have floaters in your vision or excessive matter in your eyes? What about dry, itchy scalp?
You really need to read this book: http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Lyme-Prevention-Borreliosis-Coinfections/dp/0970869630 In it, he explains his herbal protocol and the function of the herbs and how they help heal the many different manifestations of Lyme. Even if you don't think you have Lyme disease, it is very helpful to see the different herbs that he suggests for collagen support and healing. I have also read many good things about using EFAs (essential fatty acids) to help heal the damage to skin and hair.
I also wanted to say that I have a lot of skin and hair problems, but I now use nothing but organic virgin coconut oil on my face and wash hair and body with pure extra virgin olive oil soap. This has helped me tremendously. I also use the unscented lotion from tropicaltraditions.com and have found it very pure and effective. The gold label coconut oil and unscented lip balm that I use are also from TT. |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 9:18 pm: | |
kristy, an emphatic YES to your thoughts, its definitely an autoimmune Collagen-Vascular problem... but naturally, it doesnt fit neatly into anyone's box, so it remains mostly undiagnosed. i have had sporadic episodes of both morphea and the 'plastic' skin of more traditional scleroderma. i think of it as a sort of 'relapsing-remitting' scleroderma... unfortunately, it doesnt seem to be remitting very often anymore. instead, over the past 3 or 4 years it tends to episodically morph into new, odd, uncategorizable (is that a word) symptoms... like these wierd stubborn little blisters on my face over the past couple years
just add chronic low key pain & constant fatigue to the mix, and your post pretty well describes me :P
i grew up in 'tick heaven' too... so... i have wondered about borrelia for some time. tho not nearly as ill as the gal i knew who had Lyme - thankfully! poor thing had it soooo bad
i didnt know about that book, it sounds like a Must Read! thank you for the good advice, and yes i have also found oil to be very soothing. for some reason my skin reddens & thins out from both coconut and emu oils ... but i do really like cold-pressed olive oil. it brings relief from tight itchy discomfort and softens the scabs all those little blemishes inevitably form (ugh, no ali, i didnt win... but stevia did take care of the burning which must have been secondary bacteria- hooray for all small victories)
ive just started using "Gaia Goo" Healing Salve by Wild Carrot, and so far really like it- still getting teeny tiny new blisters here & there but since i switched over to this, some of the older blemishes seem to be forming new skin under the scabs- yay!
(ingredients: "organic olive oil infused with St Johns Wort, Calendula, Chickweed & Plantain , beeswax, & pure essential oils of wild rosemary & oregon lavender")
...gosh, i just read this whole post over and it sounds so yucky! its not as bad as it sounds really. i just look like a middle aged lady with a bad case of teenage acne. ha.
btw, kristy- i have been wondering how you are doing these days? i saw where you said you had to stop the GAPS diet for now, and i recently came across a post you made only a year ago when you were first starting on that program and you were still struggling with so many symptoms... i hope its not all sneeking back up on you all over again! that would be so frustrating! i do hope you have arrived at a place of relative stability, and able to keep holding your own |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 1:50 am: | |
bo'nana, I have the same problems with the message board directing to pages ending in the right month, but prior year.
Dimethicone in shampoo makes my hair fall out big time. It is present in many skin care products as well. The only shampoo I find helpful to relieve itching to any degree is Nizoral, an antifungal that used to be available only by prescription, but it has ingredients that some may react to. Coconut oil skin creams make my skin turn red. Others do not.
a link regarding lyme disease:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borreliosis |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 7:20 am: | |
thanx roy, it sure sounds like we react to at least a couple things in the same way.... hmmmm... still trying to make sense of all this, and figure out why things keep getting worse when i am doing so many things to make it better?
roy, do you know whether SLS/SLES or derivatives like Sodium Olefin Sulfonate, Disodium Laureth Sulfosuccinate & Cocamidopropyl Betaine cause any problems for you? none of them used to bother me when i was younger... but about 10 years ago SLS/SLES became a problem... easy enough to avoid... until the last 2 or 3 years and then one by one each of the others began to cause problems too. Olefin Sulfonate and there is an ammonium one too- those are the worst- i just made the mistake of trying a spendy organic Shikai 'colour saving' shampoo that was made with Olefin and for the next week my hair was dropping like crazy! boo... back to Dr Bronners... i have misgivings about it being coconut based but at least it doesnt cause the dramatic hair loss.
what about you kristy? you said you have lots of skin & hair problems, what are they like? what triggers have you found?
so glad you found that coconut helps you so much, especially when there are so many things you are forced to avoid!
also, kristy & roy, do either of you know if you are dealing with lyme or anything like it? if so, i would love to be able to pick your brains for more info.... |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 12:19 pm: | |
bo'nana,
I've never been tested for lyme disease.
I've used Dr. Bronners, but the condition it leaves my hair in is unacceptable. Unlike the skin cream, coconut oil doesn't seem to bother me in forms that wash off.
I don't have any clear reaction to SLS/SLES or Disodium Laureth Sulfosuccinate. The shampoo that made my hair fall out like crazy contained both Dimethicone and Ammonium Xylene Sulfonate. I didn't suspect the Ammonium Xylene Sulfonate because I've used shampoos with numerous, although different, sulfonate compounds, and only the one shampoo with Dimethicone caused the hair loss. The hair loss was profuse and began with the second day I used it.
http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient/700386/AMMONIUM_XYLENE-SULFONATE/
http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient/702011/DIMETHICONE/ |
kristy
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| | Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 3:33 pm: | |
bo'nana, me and both my teenagers tested positive for Lyme using the western blot test, but that isn't enough to definitively state we have Lyme. The doctor we went to did prescribe antibiotics but they didn't help any of us - in fact made us much sicker because we were already suffering digestion problems and had an undiagnosed corn allergy (antibiotics contain corn).
We have suffered so many different strange symptoms and each have different symptoms even now. My skin is in a terrible state and I am always searching for safe soaps, lip balms and lotions. Luckily, I have a new friend who sells soap at the farmers market and she is making special stuff for me. The other soap vendor makes a custom soap for me, too. I wanted to mention that I have used some coconut oils that caused me problems (I think it was because of sulfate contamination) but the gold label stuff from tropicaltraditions.com is very pure and very safe even for me. Have you checked your water supply? Try washing your face and hair with distilled water for a few days and see if there is any improvement. The chlorinated water at my house still causes my face to get red when I shower. Some water is even treated with citric acid so you may want to call your water company to find out.
One thing I have learned is that the better we are eating the better we feel. I don't mean just clean and corn-free, either. When we ate the GAPS diet, we felt better than we have in years. Even now that we aren't on the diet we do better if I make sure to include a wide variety of veggies every day (fermented, cooked and raw). If we slack off veggies and start mostly living off something like mac-n-cheese or pasta salad or potatoes (or something else starchy), we all feel much worse. I don't know why that is, but it is definitely consistent with all of us.
I do believe we are dealing with Lyme and we are going to start the Buhner protocol outlined in his book as soon as we can get the herbs. I am ordering cut and sift herbs and will be making decoctions (like tea) to make sure we avoid any corn additives and capsules (we don't do well with gelatin or veggie caps). I am excited to get started even though there seems to be some pretty miserable days ahead while we are getting used to the herbs. We all suffer from fatigue (our most aggravating symptom) so are very anxious to get some relief. |
Roy Piwovar
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| | Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 8:44 pm: | |
The Buhner protocol for Lyme disease:
Andrographis paniculata, standardized to 10% andrographolides. 400mg, 1-4 capsules or tablets 3-4x daily for 8-12 months.
Japanese Knotweed (Resveratrol): 1-4 tablets 3-4x daily for 8-12 months. The standardized tablets (e.g. those manufactured by Source Naturals, which he recommends) contain 1/2 gram (500mg) of standardized Polygonum cuspidatum whole herb (Hu Zhang) and 10mg of resveratrol.
Cat's claw (Uncaria tomentosa): 500mg, 3-4 capsules 3-4x daily for 8-12 months.
Herbs that can be added to the core protocol
Astragalus, Dosage and use varies depending on stage of infection, after cat's claw
Smilax (sarsaparilla): 425-500 mg, 1-4 capsules 3-4x daily for 8-12 months.
source:
http://www.prohealth.com/lyme/blog/boardDetail.cfm?id=871 |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 6:28 pm: | |
hey kristy... i put that book you mentioned on hold at my library yesterday- cant wait for it to come in! i am intrigued by the idea of using the herbals to help combat my illness, even tho i cant know for certain that i have a tickborne disease.
i know ive been bitten at least once, with no 'bullseye'... but my wierd autoimmune symptoms and chronic fatigue did seem to gradually worsen after that point. i guess my theory is that i dont have Lyme or i would be a lot more ill than i am... BUT maybe that tick did pass on some little goody that a healthy body would fight off but i couldnt as my system was allready primed with an autoimmune condition. if that makes any sense.
anyway, i was wondering if you would like to start following Dr Buhners protocol together? maybe we could help keep each other on task ... when we start feeling too tired to follow through... & i agree with you: the constant fatigue really is the worst part.
especially the Brain Drain! |
kristy
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| | Posted on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 11:19 am: | |
That sounds good bo'nana, I am hoping to get my herbs next week. I ordered most of them from Mountain Rose Herbs and the others from 1st Chinese.
I've been reading the lyme questions that Buhner answers online: http://planetthrive.com/category/experts/buhner/ and am also reading all the messages on the Buhner Lyme group on yahoo: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_Aid_Buhner/ I am really looking forward to some relief. |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 4:23 pm: | |
well, ive broken down & started using the bar of homemade milk soap i received from our hosts at the homesteader b&b we stayed with in june...
i'd wanted to keep it for a souvenir but my skin problems have flared up worse again and i cant find any cleanser on the shelves which isnt made with some form of coconut (or palm- which is related, right?)... these blemishes are driving me nuts! and SOMETHING has to be causing them... it just doesnt seem to make any sense to think, o well, thats just how my body is....
i'd allready given up cosmetics (except when going out- becoz it is truly the pits feeling you look like a MethMama) and creams... now using olive oil only. the only other things going on my skin for the past few months have been Thayer's witch hazel toner, and clear liquid stevia drops. olive oil & witch hazel have at least been soothing, and so far stevia is the ONLY thing i have found which actually encourages fresh skin to form... otherwise, all those little scabs just stay there for weeks and weeks before any sort of healing occurs.
so i confess ive been worrying about developing yet another autoimmune thing... finally thought, well i cant know if i dont eliminate EVERYTHING else first... i allready know a bunch of cosmetics chemicals that bother me & it seems like they are mostly coconut derivatives, plus having had that red skin reaction to coconut oil...or sulphites in it?... altho the label was organic & clean...
anyway. the skin cleanser ive been using for awhile now is Desert Essence Thoroughly Clean Face Wash and it is just:
Castille Soap- Coconut Oil- Olive Oil- Tea Tree Oil- Chamomile- Goldenseal- Awapuhi- Bladderwrack- Palmarosa- Petitgrain- Lavender- & Peppermint. Seems clean, no chems, but still...
i have been using the Tallow soap for the past 3 days instead, and have had zero new spots and very little itching for 2 days. first time that has happened in 2 years! stevia stopped the burning, becoz i think that was secondary bacteria setting in. the combination of Olive Oil, Witch Hazel & Stevia seems to be definitely headng the right direction... but nothing worked to stop new spots from constantly popping up. tiny, yes. but still daily.
i think... no i hope... the tallow milk soap just MIGHT be the missing piece that was needed.... that getting rid of the coconut becoz for me, it seems to be yet another thing that is turning out to be very bad medicine. (boo hoo!)
ok, so now the question is... Does anyone know of a good, clean label, safe soap that is also COCONUT-FREE?? i suppose it ought to be Palm-Free also, since the 2 are related and both tend to be heavily processed into other body-product chems... (which for all i know, is why this new sensitivity has happened at all) |
kristy
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| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 9:27 am: | |
bo'nana, you could try a pure castille soap: http://www.amazon.com/Kiss-My-Face-Olive-1-Bar/dp/B0000532YN This one is supposed to be pure olive oil soap (true castille) and I think it is really corn-free and pretty widely available. You can look for others on this list: http://corn-freefoods.blogspot.com/2007/12/corn-free-foods-products-list-dec-2007.html
You can also try the oil cleansing method: http://www.theoilcleansingmethod.com/ I have heard very good things about it. I have a very simple rule for my toiletries these days: I don't put it on my skin unless I could eat it. |
kristy
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| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 9:29 am: | |
I forgot to say that you need to make sure it is a good quality olive oil that you are using. Look for brands on the list. |
ali
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| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 10:34 am: | |
i love the idea of the oil cleansing method kirsty. ill have a good read of that later. I have yet to find face products that dont aggrivate my skin. For years now i have just cleansed with an olive oil soap bar my dad sends me over from Crete. Its the only thing i ever found that didnt irritate my skin. |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 11:00 am: | |
i am going to try the oil cleanse also- thank you kristy! where DO you hear of these things??
the article would seem to make good sense, to my sense of reason and also recent experience (olive oil being so much more soothing than any lotion)
i will hunt for that olive oil bar also, for hand washing... tho something about other Kiss My Face products has left me uncomfortable in the past, i havent seen this one before!
thank you! it is good to have new options (and if all else fails, maybe i can start buying olive oil soap from crete too ... hey, ali- your dad could find his products quite in demand here in the states |
ali
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| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2010 - 11:59 am: | |
next time i speak to my dad ill ask if he can still get it. He sent me five bars last year and i havent used it all up yet. Its sold in little shop just round the corner from him and made locally. Ive no idea what else is in it because its labelled in greek of course. Ill get him to see can he find out the ingredients list. Ill let you know whats in it as soon as i find out. |
kristy
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| | Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 5:25 pm: | |
I really love my local soapmakers. They make special stuff just for me and seem to appreciate having the information that I give them about avoiding unpure basic ingredients. I participate in many different forums but most have to do with natural and wholesome solutions, avoiding corn, living with allergies, whole food diets and nutrition. I love it when I come across a real gem on one of them. |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 8:21 am: | |
i found the Kiss My Face Olive Oil bar at my local New Seasons market- and i love the ingredient list (saponified olive oil-water-sodium chloride) WOW! soap with NOTHING in it!
guess i missed it before becoz none of the other kiss my face products have a clean label. this time i read EVERY soap label in the store. sure enough, this was the only one there that seems safe for me to try. and none of the liquid soaps- yikes!
so i drove out to the big store and found they stock a much wider variety: Most still made with coconut/palm oils...some with palm only... and a few more with olive oil. i even found one more that is made with only olive oil, no colours or fragrances or preservatives, no nothing else-
"Aptera of Greece Olive Oil Soap, produced by ABEA Cooperative Hania (since 1889)" ingredients are just Saponified Olive Oil-Water-Mineral Salts. HOORAY for variety!
...ali, wouldnt it be too funny if this is the same soap your dad sends you?
for now i am still using the homemade tallow milk soap from my friend, and my skin is still holding its own...no new spots for a whole week! ahhhh... sweet relief.
except for the nite i decided to test a sample packet of some dermatologist/spa fancy schmancy cleanser "especially formulated for problem skin"- the next day i had 3 new sore, tender patches. i am certain if i kept using their fixit formula, the spots would return just like that... so in the bin with it, goodbye!
i think my vague plan now is to keep using the tallow soap until the remaining spots finish healing... then when my skin is totally clear (there's hope!) i will try out each of the olive oil bars. then after a couple months if there is no reaction, i will try one of the other Kiss My Face olive oil bars and see if any of their added fragrance or preservatives cause any issues.... if not, eventually, i will reintroduce a clean label soap with palm, then finally coconut...
now that things are finally clearing up, this could actually be fun! ... ive tried sooooo many things over the past two years, but it doesnt make any difference when everything still contains a common base that is the root of the problem in the first place... especially when it isnt supposed to be problematic at all...
all my thanks to all of you, i couldnt have made this connection without your tips and input! i know this thread was totally off the topic of msg, but it was still such a frustrating and plaguing problem and everyone here is always so helpful & willing to offer advice and suggestions from their own personal experiences... and that is really something that makes this board very very special
cheers (: |
ali
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 9:58 am: | |
It is indeed the same soap my dad sends me. Ive just got off the phone to him and he gave me the ingredients list. Its not the same make, but exactly the same ingredients. I hope your as happy with your find as i have been. Ive stuck with it now for a couple of years. Its the only thing ive found that Isla can tolerate. Doesnt cause her eczema to flare up at all. Happy days. I really hope you like it Bo'nana...Ill tell my dad he missed the boat on shipping out the states and making his fortune hehe. x |
bo'nana
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 10:51 am: | |
my brother's 2 little girls get eczema also, really badly at times... i think i will send him a couple bars of these soaps and tell him what you said- thanx ali |
ali
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 11:13 am: | |
yes thats a great idea bo'nana. ive tried every commercial eczema brand and they all contain hydrolised something or other or citric acid. Isla actually has no eczema with a clean diet. So i feel her eczema was definately a result of msg or other additive ,preservative or some "food" nasty. But if i put something on her skin it flares up. I only use soap on her once a week for the rest i just bathe her or wash her in warm water. Ive had no issues with using this soap once a week, havent been brave enough to use it daily though. |
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