| Author | Message | ||
| dave1973
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Last Night I ordered two sub. I arrived home, I and my friend ate Subs, half hours later, we pooped. In the morning we got pain head. That is MSG in Meat. | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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Dave, Subway uses many forms of MSG in their food. http://subway.com/subwayroot/MenuNutrition/Nutrition/frmUSIngredients.aspx | ||
| Jerry Story
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About subway: They invite comments and questions. What comments and questions should we send them? They have no interest in health of customers. There is no such thing as a safe restaurant. | ||
| Carol H |
Maybe they shouldn't be the fast food company advocating weight loss, since MSG can cause obesity. | ||
| Marian C Brown |
Just recently I had Subway's breakfast sandwich which is supposed to be made fresh. To me that implies that they take the eggs and crack them open in front of you and then cook them. Not so. They use liquid eggs that contain citric acid. I didn't have my usual reaction to citric acid which is just nasal stuffiness but instead ended up having many, many sleep distrubances that night, perhaps even several apnea episodes. So much for their pledge of freshness! | ||
| LaVonda Rogers
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I can eat a roast beef or veggie sub at Subway, on white or wheat bread, mayo and all veggies, with no problem. MSG causes an anaphylactic reaction to me, but so far this hasn't been a problem as long as I stick to these two sandwiches. | ||
| Deb A. |
As I said before, what one person can tolerate can send another to the hospital. I have eaten a veggie sub at Subway, but I use my own vinaigrette that I bring along while traveling instead of their dressing or sauce. | ||
| Patty |
Has anyone successfully used any of the other meats at Subway? The bread doesn't bother you? Deb, what do you carry your dressing in when you travel? We would like to take a trip to NYC this year. I am nervous about how to eat. Any suggestions for traveling? If we take a plane, it would be difficult to take much of my own food. Does anyone know any good places to eat in NYC, or know of any health food stores? Thanks. | ||
| Deb A. |
Patty, I mix organic apple cider vinegar with olive oil, salt and pepper, sugar and touch of sugar to taste. That's the salad dressing I carry in my purse when I go out..which isn't often. It needs no refrigeration. I have 3 restaurants in town that I go to which have a few entrees each that I can eat. Since we travel mostly by car, for the reasons you have mentioned, I pack a cooler with staples. Sometimes we take a small gas grill for longer trips or stay in hotels with a kitchen. We also have an old tent trailer with a tiny kitchen which is also nice for traveling. It's so nice to have that to escape with instead of worrying about restaurants when traveling. For car trips, I pack the cooler with chicken breasts that I have previously seasoned and barbecued or sauteed and frozen (stay fresher longer), mild cheeses, hard boiled eggs (some peeled and some not), fruit, cut up vegetables, sour cream or yogurt dip that I make by adding salt, pepper, marjoram, parsely, garlic and onion powder, cayenne. I have made meatloaf and sliced it for sandwiches. I bring organic mustard and Muir Glen or may own ketchup. I bring real butter, homemade bread, matzo and Akmak crackers, which we like with cheese and mustard or butter. I make cookies to bring. My husband likes the snack I make with Rice Crunch'ums. It's like Chex Mix. I mix 1/3 cup sunflower oil with 3 T. of organic apple cider vinegar, and season to taste with salt, pepper, cayenne, a pinch of celery seeds, a pinch of dry mustard, a touch of paprika, garlic and onion powder. You can use some melted butter with it, too. Mix and toss with about 6 to 7 cups of the cereal...I don't use a recipe, so it may take more cereal...at least have enough to coat with the seasoning mix. Taste and adjust the seasonings, trying new ones or ones that you like. You can add herbs, if you like. Spread out on a cookie sheet and roast at 350 about 15 to 20 minutes, stirring and watching closely...until lightly toasted and crisp when cool. I make a sweet version by mixing 1/3 to 1/3 cup hot honey with melted butter (1/3 cup). In another small bowl, mix 2t. cinnamon with 1/3 cup cane sugar and 1/2 t. salt. Mix 7 cups cereal (it may be more, I think...you can tell...it should not be soggy, so add enough) of the cereal and 1 cup toasted whole almonds (0pt.) with the honey mixture to coat. Then sprinkle the sugar mixture on that and lightly stir to coat. Roast as for the other mixture. Taste and see if it needs more salt. You can take a small cooler on a plane with snacks. I bring bottles of water everywhere I go. If traveling far, ice is best to keep things cool, since it is easy to find for replenishing the cooler. There are new coolers that keep food cold for days without adding more ice. I like to pack the maple flavored whole milk Brown Cow yogurt, sometimes. I think it has some pectin, but no gelatin...and it doesn't seem to bother me. I have had luck while traveling finding foods at Wild Oats (but be careful of the deli foods and soups). I don't eat at Subway regularly, Patty. In fact, I do better with the bread at Guizno's subs. But I have done okay at Subway...may get a bit itchy with the bread, but it's bearable in a pinch. All I can say is ask the cook about the simplest, least seasoned item he can make without seasoning salts, broth, or sauces. Ask that your meat not be seasoned, and add your own salt and pepper. I do well at most Mexican restaurants if I order a simple cheese quesadilla or salad without their dressing. At Chinese restaurants, I ask for a stir fry of FRESH veggies (strips of beef, if I feel brave), and tell them not to add anything else but fresh ginger, red pepper flakes, and garlic...saying no salt, pepper, soy sauces or seasonings of any kind, especially MSG. Then at the table, I add my own salt and pepper and a sprinkle of sugar and fresh lemon juice (I bring a lemon slice and some sugar in my purse..you can bring your own salt, if you like, or use theirs. Pack a lemon and a knife or a small bottle of apple cider vinegar (restaurants usually have olive oil) to use a salad dressing. Or ask for a lemon or orange slice or two and squeeze on your salad with a little oil, salt, pepper, sugar (if you like). Hope this helps. I'm sure others have some ideas for you. | ||
| Deb A. |
Also, if I know I am going to someones' house to stay a few days or am going to be a place with a kitchen, I put a couple 1 lb. packages of frozen ground beef, (wrapped in freezer wrap from our butcher and placed in a plastic ziplock freezer bag so it doesn't leak if it melts).right on top of the ice at the bottom of the cooler. I also add some fozen uncooked chicken breasts like that, too. They usually stay solid for a day that way and when I get there, I freeze if still frozen, or refrigerate. I cook them up the next day if they have defrosted (hamburger patties). Then I freeze to have on hand or to pack for the trip home. | ||
| Patty |
Deb - thanks for all the great information. It sounds like traveling by car is a necessity! | ||
| AnitaT. |
Deb, who makes the Rice Crunch'ums? I looked them up on the internet and couldn't find them. Your recipes sound delicious! Thanks. Anita | ||
| Deb A. |
The Rice Crunch-Ems (sorry I spelled it wrong before) are made by Health Valley. They contain milled rice, corn bran, evaporated cane juice, salt, and natural vitamin E for a preservative. I have had no problem with them so far. They can be found at our Fred Meyer and most health food stores. | ||
| Rebecca Fetters |
At 11:30 I had a Italian BMT Wrap with vegetables, Mayo, oil/vinegar/mayo. Classic Chips(only one w/o MSG), and a sprite. It is 2:00PM, I have pain in my left eye. It is bloody red beneath my lower eyelid. As far as I am concerned, MSG is poison to me. I researched this out for myself and discovered that my Mom used MSG in her cooking during my growing up years and I have frequented fast food restaurants for 30 years which all use MSG. EX: KFC, MacDonalds, Taco Bell, Subway... Lord help us that we won't all become blind. | ||
| Rebecca Fetters |
LaVonda, Thank you for your posting about the Roast Beef Sandwich. I'm OK with the Tuna, also. | ||
| Anonymous |
Rebecca and Lavonda - Re:Subway - do you get their cheese on the sandwiches? Thanks. | ||
| Debbey |
you guys are so lucky-I even react to the enzymes in cheese/unless it is imported with rennet and cannot eat sugar or honey-when my team qualified for National Championships-I ate 22 peanut butter sandwiches and veggies (small amt of fruit)from the amish country in the three day period we competed-it worked by any chance does your book show grams of sugar in the recipes??? | ||
| Debbey |
Maybe I am the lucky one if anything with glutamates touches my mouth, my cheeks get numb immediately so I know right away if it is a MSG poison (and can spit it out before I get really sick sorry if it sounds gross) I did not have to go through everything you all went through. I was very lucky to know for sure it was a reaction to MSG (Day 1 was won ton soup/day two salad dressing and diet sprite/day 3 string cheese. used your website and truth in labeling as a guide p.s typing this by generator power-hurricane wiped most of the lines out  | ||
| Deb A. |
Rebecca, even mayo contains MSG along with soft drinks. So sorry you had such a bad reaction. MSG sure effects my eye sight. It's blurry for days if I get it by mistake. When I was younger, it would clear more quickly than it does now...thankfully, it happens rarely. Debbey, I do not have the ingredients in the recipes broken down nutritionally. I always suggest to people that they can reduce sugar amounts or use stevia in many of the recipes calling for sugar. | ||
| Rebecca Fetters |
Deb A. Thanks so much about info on the Mayo and drinks. You all might think I had it good. I battled red painful eyes for 3 years. Drs could not figure it out. Said it may be "dry eyes". They gave me drops for dry eyes. The drops sent me through the ceiling with burning. I have been online and to Borders for reference books. I've slept with a humidifier...I finally diagnosed myself. My eyes were clear and without pain. The last test was making a broth soup with chicken boullion which of course has MSG. I woke up with a bloody place on my eye under neath my eye lids. MSG was the cause. The truth for me is I'm over 50 and I have an overexposure to MSG. The younger ones may not feel it now. But just wait. I am also dealing with a glaucoma issue,they say. Who knows if MSG is not the cause of that. Thank you all for your input. | ||
| Anonymous |
Rebecca and Lavonda - Re:Subway - do you get their cheese on the sandwiches? Thanks. | ||
| Lisa Marie |
Rebecca, After over a year off of MSG/Aspartame, my eye pressures came down. I am still on one drop of timoptic a day for Glaucoma, but my pressures are lower in both eyes by 8 points at least. Interesting to say the least. | ||
| Carol H |
Deb A, didn't you also have trouble with your eyes? I have a neighbor who insists MSG is not her trouble. She has frequent migraines, glaucoma, joint pain, reproductive issues, bouts of bad temper, out of control hunger all day, is always trying to lose weight, and now she was finally diagnosed with asthma. She knows about MSG because of me and she still refuses to acknowledge that that MSG could be HER trouble. She prides herself on cooking - yet relies heavily on buillion cubes, prepackaged mixes, and such - she does not avoid MSG at all and in fact eats many foods that have MSG in them. My boyfriend and I have taken to always being "busy" when she invites us to dinner, because Eric used to always get an MSG asthma attack after eating there. It drives me absolutely crazy. It is so worrisome that there are still people out there like my neighbor - suffering (and poisoning others) - when they may be able to get better. I am glad that those of you who found us here are getting better. Every single one of you that makes the effort and feels better is a huge win for us - so keep the good stories coming. They really do make my day! | ||
| Rebecca Fetters |
Lisa Marie, I have been rejoicing. Thank you for the info/encouragement about eye pressures. I could write pages and pages of my experiences, but I have refused!!! the diagnose of glaucoma because I know that it was a life style issue. I have proven it with diet/excerise,but thought MSG was just the cause of my dry painful red areas in my eyes. I have been off of Aspartame for years. I remember that it caused great anger. Got rid of it and the anger stopped. Carol H. I know how you feel. My Mom and Aunts still cook the southern way with grease, MSG, shortening... I have spoken to my Mom about it and she is not using buillon anymore, but other than that, I PRAY over my food, especially when I have no control. Carol H. they have made my day too. | ||
| Deb A. |
Yes, Carol, I had my eyes checked at a time when I was coming down from a bad MSG poisoning a few years ago. The pressure was so high that the doctor wanted to have me checked for glaucoma. I explained to him that I was reacting to MSG and that I always got blurry vision after eating it by mistake. He told me to come back in a week and be retested. The results had gone down into the normal pressure range. He had heard about the effects of MSG on the eyes at a conference that year, so he was easy to convince. |
