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EmilyS
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 1:24 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has anyone found if JennyO ground turkey to be safe? They say it is all natural but I've never tried it.
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 9:04 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

EmilyS, it's hard to say as they don't list the ingredients of their turkey products on their website. You'll have to check the labels against the list of free glutamate containing additives.

http://www.jennieo.com/contactus/
EmilyS
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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2012 - 2:26 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Roy. Their ingredients simply list "extra lean ground turkey." They claim it's all natural with nothing else added.

I'm still leery to try anything new . . . but I would like to find a few options to use while on vacation and this seems like it may be.
Deb A.
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Posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 - 12:23 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I do fine with the Foster Farms ground turkey at Costco. The "natural flavor" is rosemary oil.
sara
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Posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 - 1:35 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I got a really bad headache last summer from FF ground turkey - been leery of it since. The ground turkey breast from TJs this summer (which also had rosemary in canola oil) wasn't a problem.

I can get jennie - o locally - even our IGA has it I think but I have stayed clear of it. I think the patties (frozen) have natural flavoring on the label. I have been tempted to try them again but haven't yet.

If I buy FF turkey I tend to get the breast tenderloins - same price per pound as the ground breast (got 2 packages today at Safeway - buy 1 get one free) and I can split one tender (10 oz) for the two of us scrimping a little on the amount of "meat" that day.
EmilyS
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Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2012 - 8:01 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thank you! Deb, I didn't know Foster Farms sells a ground turkey at Costco- that's great!
Deb A.
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Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 11:07 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Please let me know if you react to it, Emily, okay?
Deb A.
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Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 11:10 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When I make patties out of the ground turkey, I add chopped mushrooms, onions, grated carrots, cumin, coriander, an egg, garlic and cayenne, salt, pepper..very tasty.
EmilyS
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Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 7:32 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Will do. Right now we have 20 LB of ground beef that is grown local, grass fed and all organic. Once that's gone I'll try the turkey and see how we do. I'm excited!

We've had several bad batches of the Foster Farm's boneless skinless chicken breasts at Costco that last few months. Their quality control doesn't know of a change in their processing but are looking into it. It we get another bad bag, we'll need to switch to something else.

Has anyone else seen a huge drop in quality?
Deb A.
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Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 2:10 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was this the bag of frozen breasts or the fresh?
EmilyS
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 - 5:52 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's the bag of frozen boneless skinless chicken breasts (Foster Farms Kirkland Signature). We have had 3 bad bags from two different Costco's in the past 2 months.

The chicken looks stringy and once fully thawed a ton of liquid comes out. Instead of 1/4 cup for 2-3 breasts, it's 2-3 cups of liquid.

After they are cooked, they taste tough, tasteless and overcooked.

They have been my staple for chicken these past few years. I'm hoping it's a fluke and not an intentional drop in quality.
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 1:19 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sounds to me like either that bag thawed and refroze at one point, or they have started injecting the chicken with a kind of solution like they do with ham. I'd check the label for the latter. The bag also may have been sitting around for way too long before you bought it. With a problem involving only one bag and no change in the label I'd try a second bag before looking for an alternative.
EmilyS
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Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 8:14 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We've tried 3 bags- all with the same problems- from two different Costco locations.

The label still shows it's clean (chicken, water, salt). I contacted customer care to see if they have changed their processing methods and they weren't aware of any changes but forwarded my concerns to quality control. My concern is they are injecting it with something else as well.

I'll wait a month, then try another bag to see if this trend continues or if it was just a bad batch.

Thank you for your thoughts.
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 12:33 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry. I re-read your post. Three strikes and they'd be out with me. I wouldn't try another bag unless the company paid for it.
Deb A.
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 - 6:08 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Doesn't it say to cook them without defrosting them? I usually buy the fresh ones, but my daughter uses the frozen ones.
LisaS
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Posted on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 10:15 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is a little off topic, but I recently learned out to cut breasts from whole chickens and it was much easier than I thought! I got organic chickens from Whole Foods on sale, skinned them and made "chips" from the skin, froze the breasts and some of the legs for individual dinners (even stuffed some of them), and gently cooked the rest in a crockpot and got lots of meat from it. It was a project but now I have a whole freezer full.

Somewhat off topic, but the bigger project I was doing was a "once a month" cooking day from onceamonthmom.com . Usually freezer cooking plans have all kinds of additives (canned soups, mixes, etc). This site has a free menu based entirely on whole foods, and I was able to modify just a little and make everything on it. Totally worth checking out if you are looking for recipes or freezing ahead.
Di
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Posted on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 12:42 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LisaS, How do you make chips from the chicken skin?
ali
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Posted on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 1:24 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was just going to ask the same thing Di.
I do lots of freezer cooking here. Its a life save on busy days. I havent seen the website you mention. I could sure use some new recipes. Thanks for the info.
LisaS
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2012 - 6:02 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chicken skin chips...I suggest only doing this from organic chickens as conventional chickens have arsenic and it's stored in the fat/bones, and arsenic makes glutamate sensitivity worse (http://encinitas.patch.com/articles/organic-turkeys-are-they-really-worth-the-cost, http://www.springerlink.com/content/yxw6243h27221335/).

Ok, obligitory public health warning completed, here are the instructions:

Remove skin from chicken -- cut around drumsticks, slice down one side of drumsticks, then work skin off of chicken.

Chips can be broken up later or cut up now, it doesn't matter.

Put a stainless steel cookie cooling rack onto a cookie sheet. Lay the chicken skin over the cooling rack to keep it up out of the grease.

Mix up a mixture of salt and seasonings that you like, such as poultry seasoning or Herbes de Provence. Sprinkle this *lightly* (I went way too heavy, the volume will shrink) over the skins.

Bake at 375 until fat is rendered (can pour off and use for cooking later if kept in fridge) and chips are brown and crispy.

Let cool on the racks and transfer to an airtight bag or container and store in fridge.
Di
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Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2012 - 4:31 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LisaS, Thanks for the directions, sounds good. Aproximately how long do you bake them?
LisaS
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Posted on Monday, March 05, 2012 - 9:31 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think it was something like 20 minutes, but check after 10. They get noticeably browner at some point. You want even the thicker ones to have time to crisp. One batch went too long and the spices got dark but they tasted fine, so they are pretty forgiving.
sara
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 2:51 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I would say Jennie O ground turkey is not safe for us. I know the list of ingredients includes natural flavoring. I suspect it is MSG or free glutamate. I had some both yesterday and the day before and today the heart is skipping beats like I got hit by a big dose of free glutamate in the last 2 days. I know I had a good dose with bread on Tuesday but this reaction is currently too strong to have been from Tuesday and it is much worse than I was on Wednesday or Thursday which is when the Tuesday reaction would have peaked. (today is Saturday)

BTW for any out here in WA - the Bakery Essentials bread out of Seattle is good tasting but watch how much you eat at once. I can handle more of it than other breads but this is the best bread I have eaten in a long long time. It is sold out of the bakery area in our local store (all our bakery items are brought in and this is by the La Brea stuff not by the regular loaves of bread).
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 5:28 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sara, the "natural flavor" that Jennie O uses in their turkey may be maltodextrin.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Jennie-O-Turkey-Store-All-Natural-Lean-White-Turkey-Burgers-With-Seasonings-6ct/15556142#Ingredients
sara
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Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 6:24 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did you notice they have a second natural flavorings on that list of ingredients?

White Turkey, Less Than 2% Of Salt, Natural Flavor (Salt, Potato Maltodextrin), Natural Flavorings. No Gluten.


this was el cheapo non white meat ground turkey - I told husband not eating it again for a while - won't buy it again -

and of course nothing at the Jennie O site - Foster Farms claims their natural flavoring is rosemary oil - this reaction isn't to that


btw - the old cat loved this stuff - easy for her to chew too
Deb A.
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Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 12:37 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I bought the same frozen chicken breasts as you, Emily. I decided to try them by frying them in a pan with seasonings. They were semi frozen, and as they cooked, a pinkish white opaque slime began oozing out of them. There was a lot of it around each breast and I tried to remove as much of it as I could. The meat was rubbery and bland, even with seasonings and I couldn't finish. My daughter-in-law had the same experience and we both decided to bring them back...got a full return. I buy the organic whole chickens at Costco and cut them up. Still do fine with the Foster Farms legs, thighs, and breasts that are fresh...and their ground turkey.
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 6:22 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, I noticed the second natural flavorings on that list, and the second could be worse. I wouldn't have trusted either, and like Deb A's suggestions.
bo'nana
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 10:42 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

pretty sure the pink slime really is... "Pink Slime" *gag*
read on...

from TLC Cooking-
"Pink Slime & Ammonia: 2 main ingredients in Ground Beef"
http://recipes.howstuffworks.com/pinkslime-ammonia-ground-beef.htm

and from Try Living Beyond Organic-
"Pink Slime In Chicken vs. Pink Slime In Beef: Confusing Anyone?"
http://trylivingorganic.com/2012/03/23/pink-slime-in-chicken-vs-pink-slime-in-beef/

no wonder i always get a bad tum from ground meats of any kind anymore!! bleargh! :P
bo'nana
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 10:48 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

oh... deb, i hate to say but Foster Farms must be doing something different to their birds than they used to
We had to swear off their chicken- even the Costco version- about a year ago,
and tonite i tried with some FF turkey legs (coz y' know- the price was So Good) and 2 bites gave me an upset tum again so i guess they are out completely for me now.
don't know what it is thats doing it... but I've noticed after cooking there seems a lot more liquid in the pan than there used to be.
some new process i suppose?
EmilyS
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Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 12:02 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry to hear you've had the same problems Deb. I tried buying the Foster Farms ground turkey at Costco last month but ours in Utah show they have natural flavors added.

I did find another source for ground turkey and I'm experimenting with Harmon's all natural chicken now that we aren't buying chicken from Costco (ours no longer sells whole chickens without natural flavorings either).
sara
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Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 4:03 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Foster Farms claims the natural flavoring is Rosemary - I think I have a package in the freezer - will see if I react like I did to the Jennie O

I think Foster Farms sends things out of the "region" (OR, WA, CA) that are different than what they sell in the "region".

I have some FF boneless breasts in my freezer - sold in approx 1.5 lb package - nothing added to them. I buy the turkey tenderloins too as one of them makes an okay size meal for the 2 of us (10 oz raw). We get Draper Valley at the little local store and the FF at Safeway.

I haven't bought sacks of frozen chicken pieces for eons. Never found any out here that wasn't adulterated and back in the Midwest almost all the chicken locally was adulterated frozen bags or not. In the city we lived in only one store out of 5 sold meat (pork or chicken - I rarely eat beef) that was okay to buy.
Deb A.
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 9:00 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's very hard to find good healthy meats unless you know the rancher these days! My niece and her husband bought some acreage nearby and plan to build a home and raise miniature steer for beef...never heard of them before..I already put in an order! :-)
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 9:17 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good luck, Deb A. They should be easier to handle than the large ones.

http://www.dantreranch.com/beef.html
bo'nana
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 9:57 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb, don't forget you will need one of these....

www.ovguide.com/tv_episode/i-love-lucy-season-1-episode-29-the-freezer-13500#

hee hee hee hee heee :D
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Posted on Tuesday, December 31, 2013 - 7:59 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I contacted Hormel, the manufacturer for "Jennie O" Ground Turkey. I exchanged 5 emails with "Jacki" a "Consumer Response Specialist" who would not give me a straight answers to my questions.

In my first email, I explained I have numerous medical food allergies, so must be extremely careful what I eat. Below are my emailed questions, and the responses verbatim:

1) I asked "what specifically are in the "Natural Flavorings, and does it contain MSG"? Response: "the natural flavoring is rosemary".

2) I then asked "it is just Rosemary oil, or dried herbs... are there other ingredients, and does it contain MSG? I have to ask due to medical food allergies" The 4 word response: "It is rosemary extract".

3) I asked "what else is in the rosemary extract" and "does it contain MSG?" and "I will never buy a product from a company that will not honestly disclose all ingredients." The response: "I contacted our R & D department regarding the rosemary extract. There is no Monosodium Glutamate in the extract."

4) I replied: "Thank you for contacting your R&D department. I will try one more time to ask my question... I will try caps… WHAT IS IN THE ROSEMARY EXTRACT? Specifically what ingredients? Just Rosemary, or what else? Thank you."

5) The response: "I understand your question, NO CAPS NEEDED. I'm sorry, I have provided you the information that I am able to. Jacki, Consumer Response Specialist, Hormel"

So I can confirm that Hormel refuses to disclose all the ingredients in their "Natural Flavorings", which is something I've read on many other message boards, but wanted to find out for myself by giving Hormel the opportunity to be honest about their ingredients. They were not.

In the end -- I DID take a chance, and try "Jennie O 99/1 Ground Turkey". I got a migraine, tight chest, and all my sinuses swelled shut so I couldn't breathe. So there is definitely SOMETHING in there other than what Hormal refers to as "Natural".
sara
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Posted on Tuesday, December 31, 2013 - 6:06 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

jennie o ground turkey has MSG in it whether they want to admit it or not - I reacted adversely to it too

foster farms I don't have a problem with and Foster Farms uses Rosemary

I avoid Jennie O
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2014 - 4:01 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jennie O has had other problems, too.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/04/02/turkey.burgers.recalled/index.html

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