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Mary Aldrich
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2000 - 3:24 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I discovered several years ago that I had allergy-like symptoms about 30 minutes after eating at a Chinese restaurant. I would get very stopped up in my nose and even turn red & have difficulty breathing. At first I thought it was the shrimp, but someone mentioned MSG to me & I realized that rest. used it in their food. I began to watch for that & have eliminated a lot of that problem.
In 1988 I started on the WEight Watchers program and in conjunction with that, started only using sugar-free products--not naturally sweetened. I began having urinary tract infections--evey month to six weeks. I tried everything, was treated by a specialist for 1 1/2 yrs. but could not find the cause. Finally a friend asked if I used artificial sweetners and I told her that I did. She said that seemed to trigger UTIs for her. I eliminated that from my diet and stopped having the problem. I had made an appt. w/a new specialist and that was on the top of his Don't Do/Use list. Not SweetnLow, Not Equal--none of it. It was also on the list of "Don't Use" for my daughter who was having very bad dizzy spells, even a seizure, at age 22, a healthy, very active young lady. She has eliminated that from her diet and is not bothered any longer with the dizzy spells. She also was advised to use a little more sodium. As she was very weight-conscious, she tried not to take in much sodium and overdid that a little.
Doctors that I tell about my experience with the artificial sweeteners think I'm nuts--but I've proven it for myself. Even while on medication to prevent UTI's I had problems. The 2nd specialist told me what I had was "irritations" not infections. I was doing all the right things to prevent problems, but only when I cut that out, did I improve.
Carol H
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 6:03 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have been posting lately on a cardiology discussion board. Someone just posted a question on that site asking if MSG or Nutrasweet affect blood pressure. Dr. Rich who normally has good advice, stated that he wasn't aware of any link. I set the record straight, but if those of you who have found that avoiding these additives had a positive effect on your cardiovascular health and specifically lowered your blood pressure, we may be able to change some minds and inform some more doctors of information they should have learned in Med school, but unfortunately were not trained to know. The site is
Gerry Bush
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 9:10 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good site! Sweeper!!!:) Especially from one who is medicated for hypertension.
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2001 - 8:52 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My main symptoms are extreme dizziness, vertigo, asthma-like episodes, and paranoia and panic. It all first started at the height of my diet-coke drinking days-no physical symptoms, mainly paranoia, depression and panic attacks. When I stopped drinking it, the symptoms stopped. Little did I know I was still poisoning myself by indiscriminantly eating and then I couldn't understand why the symptoms returned but this time with ferocity. As it turns out I had been eating out alot at the time-especially Asian restaurants-as well as using non-dairy creamer daily. And it was only a few days ago I found out that the sodium caseinate in it is basically MSG. I was raised on Korean food and American junk food--no problems. I spent four years living in Korea eating out at restaurants every day--no problem, at least not like the ones I have now. Back then it just made me sleepy and a little moody maybe. When I returned to the states I went crazy at the supermarket buying up diet everything that was not available in Asia. Ever since then, I can't even drink coffee without getting severe dizziness. However, it's been only a few days since I found out how MSG is hidden in so many foods and so I have yet to discover what's safe or not. What scares me the most is how sudden and severe my reaction to excitotoxins were and are, when for three decades I had had no serious reactions at all. In fact, before I experienced for myself this hell, I would have scoffed at the idea that MSG and aspartame could be as dangerous as I now know they are. Why? I didn't want to believe that the FDA would allow this level of harm and danger to the public.

Can anyone tell me if these foods and their ingredients are safe:

soy bean paste with soy bean, selected wheat flour, salt and glutinous rice
soy sauce with defatted soy bean, wheat, salt water, and sodium benzoate
Starbucks, Coffee Bean or most restaurant house coffees
soy milk powder

I really appreiciate the input and am grateful for this site. It's been a life saver because these past few months I've absolutely been wanting to die.

Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2001 - 9:34 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Avoid the soy sauce. Good luck!
Deb A.
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2001 - 10:42 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I avoid all soy products. Soy beans are very high in natural glutamate. Sodium benzoate is a very unhealthy preservative, and a good one to avoid.I do not know what selected wheat flour means, or glutinous rice....they tend to sound ultra processed, which always sends up a red flag for me. The more a product in processed, the less I trust it. I don't drink coffee, so I can't help there. Caffeine can have a negative effect on us, due to it's stimulating and addictive effects. Dr. Carol Foster tells us it is good to avoid if we have bad headaches and are sensitive to excitotoxins.
Laurie M
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2001 - 9:49 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi kelly,
I know how you feel with the dizziness. If eat a few doritos I get so dizzy that i cannot walk staight or sleep for that matter. I cannot handle anything soy except for expeller pressed soybean oil. I encourage you to get Deb's book. It really helped me to eliminate bad foods amd learn how to make what i cannot buy. We have better meals now than I did before I discovered my allergies.
Good Luck,
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2001 - 12:52 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

thank you guys for the input. reading some books sounds like a good start, and avoiding soy everything for now. i never knew how allergic soy products are to so many people--i always thought it was healthy stuff. hmm...
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2001 - 12:03 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Watch the flavored coffees. Anything may be used in them regardless of whether you buy them in the supermarket or get it already brewed at Starbucks or wherever. For example, there is a flavored coffee in a tin that was all the rage and it is loaded with hidden MSG. Sorry, I can't remember name of brand but always check out the ingredient list.
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2001 - 12:39 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How about decaf coffee? I dont always drink it anyways.
Gerry Bush
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2001 - 10:26 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Buy only the Swiss water process decaffeinated coffee! All other decafs are treated with chemicals similar to those used in dry cleaning.
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 9:23 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thank you!

Do you know if starbuck has swiss water process?
Gerry Bush
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 10:55 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No they do not! In fact you need to absolutely stay away from all of their frappes and flavor syrups.
Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2001 - 11:13 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

what about their regular coffees and expresso?
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 12:15 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just wanted to say that I didn't believe all the fuss about aspartame until I bought some Crystal Light this summer to have something other that water for my visitors to drink. (I usually just drink bottled water.) I occasionally would drink Diet Coke, have on and off for years. I liked the taste better- regular Coke was too sweet. Well, I made several pitchers of CL, 3 different flavors, and drank several glasses each day. I ended up with an upset stomach each day, and didn't relate it to the CL until after the 3rd day! Others in my house also had stomach problems, and I was thinking it was from the food I was serving or what we were eating out! After I stopped the CL, the stomach problems went away. Now I have stopped all diet drinks, including Diet Coke, and I am going to avoid other artificial sweeteners. Why is all this poison being approved for human consumption?

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