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Deb A.
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 9:46 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A tidbit to share:
Mike and I were unsure of where to park when we were staying at Circus Circus in Reno. At one parking lot, we saw a huge casino/hotel van and stopped along side to ask the driver for help. He didn't respond right away and said, "Sorry, I have a migraine and held up a pen and pad". You see, just before we left for the trip, we had 12" by 14" magnetic signs made for our car that read, "Migraine, Arrhythmia,FMS, ADD, IBS???
For answers:"
It cost us $35.00 to have 2 made up, and the looks, inquiries, and double takes we get are great. On the way home, we stopped at an old country store and one of the clerks spotted the sign and asked us what it was about. We had a chat and she proceeded to share the info with the owner. A couple minutes later, the clerk yelled out to us, "I just sold a book for you!" Both the owner and her daughter-in-law are MSG sensitive and get terrible headaches all the time. We also got personal license plates that say, "MSGMYTH". We considered several messages, such as, "Ban MSG", "MSGKILZ" and the not so delicate, "MSGSUKS". Anyone can do this and ones car can spread a message, too.
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2001 - 1:27 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Great idea! When my family and I were following the Feingold Diet, I had their bumper sticker on my car, which spelled out food ADDitives can cause ADD in some clever way (can't quite remember anymore) and had an 800 number. I used to get honks from people following me, and when I'd pull over to the side of the road, they would ask me about the diet and take down the number. Also talked to a lot of people while waiting in car pool line who would ask me about it. Maybe you could include a bumper sticker with the MSGmyth web address with your books and a message to the effect that if the people are helped and want to help others, they can display the bumper sticker. Then maybe the rest of us, who already have the book, can order a bumper sticker to display on our cars. I'll be the first.
Deb A.
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2001 - 3:34 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for that great suggestion, Ruth. I'll have to do a little research on bumper stickers. Years ago, I suggested, while on the board of NoMSG, that we do the same, but no one seemed interested. One person said she was afraid of the controversy a bumper sticker could create. But that's how we reach people. Kaye Wanke, at our Reno meeting sported two different t-shirts about MSG. They were great.
Roy Piwovar
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2001 - 6:10 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


That's a terrific suggestion. I'd be proud to display one on my car.

some other promotional items (but I like the bumper sticker idea the best!):
Deb A.
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2001 - 12:29 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mike has posted some info and photos from the Reno meeting and trip. He still has to tweak some things and get the spelling of development corrected...also has to post a photo of Tom and and his wife. Anyone who wants to send a photo of themselves is welcome to. We should create a spot for discussion board visitor photos. Go to to see them. Like Carol H.'s new hat???

Roy, thanks for the bumper sticker info. Any ideas for what we'd want them to say, besides have our website address? The minimum is 125 to order to get a good price break. I don't want to make any money off them, but I would have to charge shipping/handling costs. There are several sizes and prices to choose from. It's got me thinking, at least. Thanks again. I will run it by Mike.
Deb A.
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2001 - 10:23 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just to let the regulars know, Carol H. is in the middle of moving and will be tied up for a week or so. We miss her here, but we wish her luck and certainly understand how busy she has been.
Roy Piwovar
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2001 - 4:53 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb A.,

Along with the web address, you can put on bumper stickers what you would put on magnetic signs or personal license plates. You just want to get people talking and logging on. It has to be quick to read and invite participation. "MSG KILLS" would be fine.

If you put "Ban MSG" on it, people will expect some kind of legal or political action to be an option, such as forwarding of e-mails to politicians or signing on to letters requesting a ban. This could be added to the site.
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2001 - 2:31 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I would pay any price for a bumpter sticker to support you and get the message out to people. I think migraine headaches get a lot of attention from people. That was how I spotted my first book about MSG, looking to help my young son.
John Brodar
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2001 - 4:23 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am reluctant to commercialize this site, but my son is the manager at a sign shop. They have just purchased equipment to do custom bumper stickers and magnetic signs.

I gave him a quick phone call to confirm they will accept e-mail orders. Not sure how they require payment. Their intent is to provide same day service on small orders and mail them out promptly via US mail. Larger orders may take a little longer.

He promises great variety and custom art work as well as outstanding service.

Deb A. If I hear from you I will forward information regarding contact.
Deb A.
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2001 - 10:03 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Everyone, I appreciate your input. John, I understand your reluctance. We are interested in people finding this site to make the MSG connection. We are selling more books each year, and do not advertise anywhere else ourselves. We probably should, considering the help the book is to people (from the positive feedback we constantly get). But the sale of the book has taken second place to the help that is given here. Aside from this discussion board, I answer at least 4 to 10 e mail inquiries daily from people seeking answers and encouragement...usually they call after finding our site. We receive at least 1 to 3 calls a day, too. Some last for an hour. But Mike and I love the one on one that this site generates. If bumper sticker bring more people to this site, great. Also, we encourage individuals to make their own bumper stickers locally at sign shops. Then they wouldn't have to place our site address on it, if they prefer. Yes, John, will you please call your son and get some info for us. Thank you very much. :)
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2001 - 6:12 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Another way to spread the message is for each of us to mention our experiences at other discussion boards. Every chance I get, I mention this site and all you great people.
Don Campbell
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2001 - 9:32 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Migraine headaches are a good catch for instant recognition. Also are Panic attacks and anxiety. Most people that are affected in any other way such as respiratory, weight disorders, hormone or thyroid imbalance, or just sleep disorders are all experiencing anxiety and panic attacks, that feeling of restlessness to the point where you either can't breath right or your pulse is affected. More people are feeling this than anything else. There are 19 thousand great new wonder drugs advertised on TV for anxiety and depression right now, and most everyone that is suffering from them is also experiencing panic attacks and anxiety. Of course this is because of excitotoxins (processed free glutamates) overstimulating the adrenaline and thyroid glands, but our (no)good doctors are telling us that it is all in our heads. I have another idea for a bumper sticker also. Why don't we challenge these bastards that are supposed to be educated about the body, their practice, our lives? They should be held accountable. How about one that says "Panic attacks, anxiety? Your doctor is wrong. Get the real truth at..." I'll think of better ones latter. I've been trying to get a T-shirt business going on the web for years but have been very diverted. I'm not looking to make any money off msg shirts though and will be occupying with some other ideas. Still working on evidence compilation to take to some people in person.
Don Campbell
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2001 - 10:11 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Panic attacks and anxiety are also experienced by people with hypertension, high blood pressure, attention deficit, stomach and gastro-intestinal problems, bulimia, anorexia, blood sugar problems, irregular heart, and multiple sclerosis, and many more.
Deb A.
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2001 - 1:47 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good suggestions, Don. Thanks and keep them coming!
Don Campbell
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2001 - 10:13 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Deb. I apologize for my abrasiveness again, but I see too much and must speak up. I had said I want nothing from anyone earlier. Meant to say don't feel obligated. And I do need you and everybody here that have come upon this delima. Seems we are few that know what this poison is doing and who is doing it to us. I saw your pictures. You all are beautiful. I couldn't attend but I want to meet you all someday. I admire your dedication Deb. Carol H, good luck with your move. Don't worry I'll be schitzso again. This is such a trip living like this. Over and out, Special Agent Campbell. Take it lite (no don't take any "lite"), or with a grain of salt (real salt that is).
Deb A.
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 11:55 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hahaha! You keep us on our toes and even make us laugh, agent Campbell. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, when all else fails, and we are having a rough day, we find that friends and family and a good sense of humor can make things much more bearable.
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 3:25 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've been away for awhile. Where can I see your
pictures from the Reno meeting?
Don Campbell
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 10:14 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb A, it has occurred to me that you and a few others here saved my life four months ago. Thank you. I am forever indebted. I just needed a purpose to pursue and I have it here. This problem is my life now and will be for the rest of it. You all are a part of my family. But enough of the mush, get back to work. I ain't sleepin till this thing is resolved. Too few people here for all that are suffering, and why do so many come and disappear? The virtual world is strange. All kinds of chat about nothing, but when there is something important to address..... where is everyone. If anyone is reading this that has posted and disappeared, will you let us know that you are out there and still OK? This poisoning is real and I believe the single greatest problem facing our children and our country. If you don't think so, read the suggested links from the discussion boards here and on and the site. Sincerely.
Deb A.
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 9:29 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the "mush", Don. We are more than glad to help out here. And glad to find another "soldier" out there. We find it interesting, too, the way people will react when they get this life saving information, get better, and then do nothing more. But most do more, because they share the info with everyone they know or suspect to be suffering...which is half the population or more! Many people who found help here continue to call or e mail often to report another success story or to just chat. I really need to work on a book that will chronicle some of their stories to help convince others that glutamate is as harmful as we know it to be. I started last spring, and my papers disappeared. Finally, I found that someone had put them in the scrap paper pile! But I am beginning again. There are many people who check in here each day, but who do not post for some reason or another. I know this, because they sometimes e mail and tell me so. At least they get the information at our site, even if they do not chat here. We can check to see how many hits we get each week...will ask Mike and see if he will run a check at the end of the week. He's busy still working to make the discussion board topics better, and faster to reach. Marcia, the Reno pics can be seen by going to our site at and clicking on the right topic at the left hand menu.
Deb A.
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 9:37 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don, I wanted to add that many people we have helped to "educate", are very actively working in their communites to make a difference. They are speaking to groups like the Lion's Club and at libraries. Some are working in their schools to improve the lunches. Others are sending e mail and complaints to government agencies and food companies continually. Some pay for booths at craft and health fairs or community events and put up posters and have pamphlets and books there for others to browse, and they personally answer inquiries. These are things anyone can do, really. It takes a little time and courage. But our hats are off to them! :)
Tom fernstrom
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 2:00 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb A.,

I noticed that Mike added the picture of my wife & I to the pictures on the Reno Pictures link.

Thanks to Mike.

As I said in my e-mail to you that had the picture attached;

"Deb & Mike,

One of your last postings mentioned placing contibutors' photos on your site. I think this would be a positive enforcement to people visiting the site and reading the information and suggestions of all the "faceless" contributors. I think it is also important that we keep in mind that we are all ordinary people with a common goal. That goal is to identify ways to improve our health and share discoveries made along the way in an effort to help our fellow mankind.

Since we could not make it to Reno, my wife and I would like to offer the attached photo of us for your use on the site if this comes to fruition."

I hope others here feel comfortable enough to put a face to their writings.
Deb A.
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2001 - 7:56 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, Tom, that is one of our projects. We will have it on the site menu, and repost yours there. Mike has been very short on extra time this month, but we are getting there. Thanks again for posting this message, and I would invite anyone of the regular posters here to send us a photo of yourself to: Debby Anglesey
P.O. Box 895
Richland, Washington 99352
Don Campbell
Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 9:25 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Also, two other catch words for advertising; food allergies- of any kind, any allergy, even to only one kind of food. The imbalance created by processed glutamates is affecting the ability of systems to deal with certain foods, if not causing the disabillity, and everybody misses that which they can not have, and food allergies are more common than migraines now. Hey we got anthrax on sale here in Florida this week. Do you think Monsanto would be interested?
Roy Piwovar
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2001 - 3:08 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


You're probably right. Monsanto may be interested.
Don Campbell
Posted on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 12:31 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Holy Sh__. Roy, thats too much. That's going too far. I can't take anymore. This isn't real now right? Some body jussssssssss somebody, would yyyyyaaaaaaaa pllleaseeeeeeeee, oh never mind •••• it.
Posted on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 7:12 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Petition services on-line are available at:

Has anyone considered this? To see a sample petition, check out this petition to label GM foods:
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 1:02 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb A - Your book was delivered today to the Morristown/Morris Township Library here in NJ.
I hope it hits the shelves for new books.
Tom Fernstrom
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 7:21 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


I too like the simple message "Migraines? Browse:", but since it is not my symptom, I would find it difficult to speak convincingly about migraines if questioned. (I know this from experience having tried to convince a neighbor who suffers migraines.) However, if I had a supply of the brochures that we are considering making available, this problem could be overcome.
Deb A.
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 4:17 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Glad to hear about the book, MEMorris! Thank you for doing that. Our 3 libraries have copies, too.

Lucinda, your ideas are so good. Mike and I will be able to come up with a simple but effective bumper sticker, I'm sure. Tom, we haven't forgotten the pamphlets. Yes, they will be very helpful. Mike has an injured rotor cup, or is it rotary cusp???hahha!.. wouldn't know my son was a chiropractor, would you. Anyway, it is giving him a lot of pain. He is going to physical therapy for it now, so he has gotten a bit behind his after work "workload" for the site. but it won't hold him down for long, knowing him!

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