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Gerry Bush
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2000 - 6:51 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This e-mail came to me and I would like to share it with our group for informative reasons and also to show you how pro-active some people are in fighting the excitotoxin poisoning of our society:

"Subj: [Aspartame Support Group] Costco has aspartame in children's vitamins
Date: 11/10/00 7:19:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time
From: Mission-Possible-USA@altavista.net (Betty Martini)
To: wcochran@leiner.com

Dear Mr. Cochran:

I understand from Patty Ford, Mission Possible Fresno that she has been in
touch with you and others at Costco and you refuse to remove aspartame from
your children's vitamins. I would suggest that you get on wwww.dorway.com
and read Aspartame Murders Infants in violation of Title 18, Genocide Code
by James Bowen, M.D., testimony before congress by Louis Elsas, M.D.,
Pediatric Professor, Genetics, Emory University, and Aspartame and
Pregnancy and Small Children by H. J. Roberts, M.D.

Aspartame even triggers autism and ADD. Read Excitotoxins: The Taste That
Kills by neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock, M.D., (amazon.com) H. J. Roberts,
M.D., has declared Aspartame Disease a world plague and has completed an
800 page medical text on this world epidemic, soon to be published, and be
assured it will have a chapter on this. www.sunsentpress.com (other
publications on aspartame)

You are now on record. I told the Pedialyte people to remove aspartame
from their product after it was reported some babies had seizures and some
died. When they refused I told them we would publish it all over the
world. After the first article was published nationally it was removed
from Pedialyte.

Aspartame was never proven safe by the FDA. On www.dorway.com read what
the Board of Inquiry told the FDA which was "do not approve it". They did
anyway. The FDA originally had asked Prosecutor Sam Skinner to indict the
original manufacturer for fraud. Instead Skinner was hired by the defense
team. Then they asked Prosecutor William Conlon to indict them and he went
to work for the defense team and the Statute of Limitations expired. Some
of these studies ended up approving aspartame, even though the Board of
Inquiry told the FDA not to do it.

Aspartame is a teratogen (triggers birth defects), reduces intelligence,
and can cause mental retardation - for starters. Read They're Poisoning
Our kids on www.dorway.com/handouts.html Here you can read the testimony
of seven physicians on what aspartame does to the brains of children.

In l996 there was a 6 year old child on Hardcopy. This child used
Flintstones vitamins with aspartame, was pronounced dead and then revived
in the E.R. Today the child has brain damage. Patty Ford was told you
listen to the FDA and Flintstones. I would suggest you read the Bressler
Report, the FDA's audit on www.dorway.com and you will see for yourself
aspartame was never proven safe. In fact, there was so much outrage over
the public being poisoned there were three congressional hearings. The
only reason something was not done is senators were paid like Orrin Hatch
to make sure nothing was done.

Doctors have already started setting up aspartame detoxification centers in
America. There is one in Atlanta started by Dr. Paula Rhodes. There is
also an Aspartame Toxicity Center at www.holisticmed.com/aspartame. Read
the horror stories of children who have used aspartame or what happened to
children whose mothers used aspartame during pregnancy.

Betty Martini, Mission Possible International (warning the world off
NutraSweet/aspartame/Equal/Spoonful, etc.)
www.dorway.com"
Gerry Bush
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2000 - 6:55 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is the e-mail that precipitated the first posting I made:

"Subj: [Aspartame Support Group] Re: Costco won't remove aspartame from their children's vitamins
Date: 11/10/00 7:20:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time
From: Mission-Possible-USA@altavista.net (Betty Martini)
To: getprimed@juno.com (Patty Ford)

You're wonderful Patty. I just wrote Cochran and I'll put this on the list.

All my best,
BettyAt 10:19 AM 11/10/00 -0800, you wrote:
> Several months ago I sent a package of information
>to Leiner products - manufacturer of Costco's Kirkland brand children's
>vitamins with aspartame. (Brand name Flintstones) Just heard from the
>Costco buyer - she says it's just my opinion that
>aspartame is bad, and that there's no scientific proof. She says they are
>just following Bayers lead ( manufacturer of Flintstones vitamins ) and
>the FDA. I told her I would let the biggest court in the land decide and
>picket the two Costcos here carrying signs that say COSTCO CHILDREN'S
>VITAMINS ARE POISON! We will pass out the flyer THEY'RE POISONING OUR
>KIDS! If any other activists want to contact the buyer she is Susan
>Hudson in Seattle (425-313-6368) or Bill Cochran at Leiner
>(wcochran@leiner.com)
>
> Patty Ford RN - MISSION POSSIBLE - FRESNO"
Gerry Bush
Posted on Monday, November 27, 2000 - 8:03 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here is another interesting article.

Subj: [Aspartame Support Group] Fwd: Researcher Believes Aspartame Promotes Hypersensitivity Syndrome 11-26-00
Date: 11/26/00 3:12:28 PM US Mountain Standard Time

From: Mission-Possible-USA@altavista.net (Betty Martini)
To: aspartame@egroups.com (aspartame@onelist.com)
CC: AspartameSurvivors@onelist.com (AspartameSurvivors@onelist.com)


>Subject: Researcher Believes Aspartame Promotes Hypersensitivity Syndrome
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>Most people are by now aware that the artificial sweetener aspartame
>becomes formaldehyde, a dangerous toxin for which neither the Food and
>Drug Administration nor the Environmental Protection Agency has identified
>a safe level of ingestion for humans. James Bowen, M.D., a physician who
>has dedicated a tremendous amount of time and resources to the study of
>aspartame, has identified the neurotoxin to be a catalyst for polychemical
>hypersensitivity syndrome (PCS).
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>PCS is a condition that effects increasing numbers of people who
>experience varying degrees of allergic reactions to chemical exposure.
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>According to Dr. Bowen, “The Persion Gulf Syndrome is largely PCS from the
>massive NutraSweet [aspartame] exposure experienced by our men in combat
>units in the Persian Gulf.”
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>The Pentagon has repeatedly denied such allegations since they claim that
>PCS does not exist. The fact that nothing in orthodox medicine seems to
>help soldiers stricken with Gulf War Illness (GWI) is an indication to
>orthodox doctors that GWI symptoms are psychosomatic.
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>“This illustrates the highly significant feature of aspartame poisoning;
>that it is an extreme hypersensitization agent which is highly reactive
>with other chemicals -- especially toxic ones like the nerve gas and
>nitrogen mustard gas to which our troops were exposed in the gulf when our
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>previously supplied to Saddam Hussein. This is a very poignant part of the
>NutraSweet issue because those who had problems with NutraSweet will now
>experience recurrences of those same problems when exposed to even the
>most minute doses of various toxic agents,” explained Dr. Bowen.
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>Dr. Bowen's findings are supported by government studies regarding
>formaldehyde sensitivity that were conducted many years ago. It was found
>then that, once a person becomes hypersensitive to the toxin, he can
>experience a violent physical reaction to a formaldehyde exposure of as
>little as one billionth of a gram.
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>If Dr. Bowen's thesis is correct, the millions of Americans who habitually
>drink sodas and eat foods artificially sweetened with aspartame are not
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>range from impotence, hair loss, obesity and chronic irritability to
>death, they are leaving themselves open to a lifetime of multiple chemical
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>“The reason I feel it's so important to publish this information is that
>those who have been victimized by aspartame really don't have a good shot
>at enjoying the health they had before unless they recognize the problem
>and know how to deal with it,” Dr. Bowen concluded.
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>The saddest joke on the American consumer is that aspartame-sweetened
>sodas are marketed as “diet” soft drinks. The truth is that aspartame
>suppresses the production of serotonin, which makes them crave
>carbohydrates which, in turn, causes them to gain weight.
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Carol H
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2000 - 6:04 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Interesting,

Perhaps my drastic current sensitivities in addition to my pituitary tumor are related to having breathed in occupational doses of aspartame over the course of two years.
Gerry Bush
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2000 - 6:32 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carol H.- I also have received several copies of e-mail from a fellow who worked in a processing plant that produced MSG. He is in terrible shape and is certain that his problems are related to aspartame exposure. So your theory may be very correct.
I, myself, worked for 5 years just out of college as a research chemist in a corporate R & D lab in Princeton, NJ. I wondered then what the exposure to the many chemicals was doing to me and I continue to wonder as I exhibit PCS symptoms and am sensitive to almost all, if not all chemicals. Not only can I not tolerate food ingested chemicals, but I also have great difficulty with superficial chemical exposure such as Bounce, bleaches, detergents, etc. It is very, very frustrating. I know how you fell and empathize with you.
Deb S
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2000 - 9:59 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That reminds me, I've been meaning to start a new topic about Multiple Chemical Sensitivities. I would be willing to bet that a large percentage of glutamate-sensitive persons are also hypersensitive to other, non-food types of chemicals. On the old NoMSG board, I posted something about that once, but no one took it up from there (but I'll admit the post was rather rambling and not well thought through, blame my damaged brain cells). I found a local doctor who is knowledgeable in this area (environmental medicine), but he isn't accepted by any of the insurance companies. I am going to try switching my primary care physician to a doctor who has referred patients to this doctor in the past, and see if I can get in that way. It will probably be a couple of months from now, and I will post anything interesting and/or helpful I learn. If anyone is curious, try doing a search for "chemical sensitivities" on some different search engines. But let's start a new topic for this so it's all in one place. :)
Tom Fernstrom
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 4:48 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear NOMSGers,

There was a segment on the 9 o'clock WGN News last night that discussed the dangers of Aspartame. Regretfully I had worked late and did not attempt to tape the show, but they usually repeat features on their morning news and noon news programs. I have asked my brother to try to tape the segment.

They actually interview Dr. Blaylock and feature his book. Regretfully there was no reference to any of the Aspartame related sites or the MSG sites. Could have had a wider audience.
Tom Fernstrom
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 5:09 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb A and others,

I just contacted the offices of WGN TV at 773-883-3203 and asked to leave a message for Dana Koslov (sp) for her to contact me for further information concerning the feature story about Aspartame on last night's news.

Perhaps if enough people contact her and offer to discuss with her the reactions they have to this and other excitotoxins we could get more publicity for the cause.
Deb A.
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Good idea, Tom. It takes just a few minutes to follow through and make these calls. For those who would prefer to e mail a message, could you call and ask for an address? People always ask me how they can help the cause. This is one of the most effective ways, because many times public interest spurs repeat airings or new coverage on the same subject.
Tom Fernstrom
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 10:18 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb A,

I asked for Dana's e-mail address, but the girl who answered the call could not remember it so she transfered me to Dana's voice mail. She is not due in the office until 2:00PM this afternoon. If Dana calls me, I will most likely request her e-mail address to forward the various websites for her to visit.

I just thought that you might want this reporter to know that Dr. Blaylock's book is not the only publication on the issue.

I will let everyone know how things progress.
Deb A.
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 10:53 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gerry, regarding hyper chemical sensitivity, I have talked with people who never touched aspartame their entire life, but blame free glutamic acid for basically causing their heightened chemcial sensitivity. Perhaps these two amino acids(aspartame and glutamate), when subjected to the strong chemical processes used to manufacture them in new forms, share some common new toxic components. I know that when foods high in natural glutamate are hydrolyzed, autolyzed or fermented, such as corn, to create MSG, new substances are created.
Free L-glutamic acid can be found in nature(ripe tomatoes), and more of this form of glutmate is created. But in addition, pyro-glutamic acid and D-glutamic acid are formed, along with carcinogens and other questionable substances. D- glutamic acid is never found in nature. Could these manmade isolated free form amino acids(MSG and aspartame) and the dangerous substances their production creates have somehow short-circuited or changed our immune response systems, that they now respond to "everything" as the enemy. The body's immune system is in constant battle, and in some cases, can even attack our own tissues, as in auto-immune diseases, which are on the rise. Maybe those of us who are chemically hypersensitive, also are guilty of having very powerful immune systems that have been compromised over the years by these amino acids. T-cells, histamine, and adrenalin all damage healthy cells too, if they are constantly being released to destoy what our bodies have recognized as enemies to our bodies. People who once were just reacting to factory produced MSG report that over time they began reacting to the natural glutamate in foods, too. Did their body at first recognize the destructive effects and neurotoxicity of factory created aspartic acid and glutamic acid, and then over the years also start to react to each compound it was part of? (as in Nutrasweet(formeldehyde) for aspartic acid, or to ripe tomatoes, or yeast or any L- or D- glutamic acid containing food, for glutamic acid) Look at all the new chemicals in our environment our immune system has had to try to handle and recognize in addition to all the new food additives. It shouldn't surprise us when our immune system can't recognize the difference in the danger beween carrots or phenols! Is our system being confused by isolated amino acids and the ones exclusively found in nature at one time? Just thinking out loud again, and wondering what others may be thinking as we expose ourselves to new information. I enjoy your imput!
Deb A.
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 12:51 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I forgot to add that before I made the MSG connection, I had at least 5 or 6 ear, sinus, and lung infections a year. I have had none in 2 years....had the flu once in 3 years. I used to count on getting bronchitis each winter and spring. My gums would be inflamed, my teeth hurt, I was weak, and tired all the time. I believe that my immune system was so weakened combating the effects of excitotoxins, that it couln't handle the very things it was created to fight.....germs!
Deb A.
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 2:42 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since we have been on the subject of hypersensitivity to chemicals, and how we all suffer as a result, I'm going to bring up what I know will be a highly controversial subject. Someone asked about NAET treatments a few months ago on the NoMSG board. The concensus was that they probably wouldn't help us. I didn't know what they were, but a few days later, two other people e mailed me about them and suggested they might help us.
I searched the web to learn more, and found the information wierd, but fascinting. Before I made the MSG connection, I know I was a more skeptical person....I had the "prove it to me!" additude, which I still have, but I am more open to alternative medicines now because of my very disappointing experiences with traditional doctors. Then I learned that Jack Samuels ( www.truthinlabeling.org )is being treated using the NAET technique. (He has been my mentor and one of my heroes in this cause)I had e mailed him regarding a question about MSG, and mentioned that my son had just graduated from chiropractic school. He responded right away with the suggestion that he should train to be able to give NAET treatments. He reported that it was like a miracle for him, and suggested I find someone to treat me and my son here. Jack is so hypersensitive to MSG that the emergency room is all too familiar to him. He was forced to subsist on a caveman diet for years. Intrigued, I hit the computer and to my astonishment, I saw that my own dentist was listed as a trained NAET treatment provider. We have known him for 20 years! I called and he told me that he had become so ill due to chemical sensitivities (yes, a can of chili would send him spiraling, as did the latex gloves that he had to wear). At a dental conference, he learned about the success one dentist had had with these strange treatments. He was so ill and had exhausted every other treatment, which had included visits to the Mayo clinic and several others at his own expense, that he decided, "why not?". He stayed in California for about 2 weeks of treatments, and simply put, he was cured. He had been so sick, he had tried to hide it from everyone, but the toll had forced him to almost retire at 40. That was a few years ago. He decided to train himself so that he could treat friends and family. I asked him what he would charge me to see if he could help me, and he said it's free. Sooooo, I have begun a rather bizarre schedule of treatments. I wanted to wait until I had been treated for all the things that I tested postively sensitive to, but I wanted to let you know that I truly believe that something is happening to my body's response to things that normally would give me a full blown reaction. For me that is a 3 day migraine, violent diahhrea, nausea, indigestion,cramping, blurred vision, body aches, itching, and days of the blues with irritability. I can't say that I can eat pure MSG and not react. No one can say that, and I refuse to change to a diet of processed foods, even if I could. But what I have noticed is that when I have experimented with some items such as cheeses, or an apple fritter that would "kill" me before, I have been pleasantly surprised. I may not react at all, or I will have a drastically reduced reaction. I actually ate barbecue baby back ribs and 2 jalopeno poppers, salad (my own dressing), and bread and butter at a restaurant the other day, and all I experienced was a little pain in my left wrist, and I can't be sure what that was. As I got ready to go to this "experiment", I felt I was getting ready for my last meal, and was very nerous!) However, a week later, I did get a moderate headache the entire next day after eating a chicken dish at an Indian restaurant. I have not ordered a chcken dish in years at a restaurant. But in the weeks that I have been treated, I can say that I have never felt better. I have eaten a small cube of Brie cheese that gave me a mild reaction within an hour. I was later treated for the same cheese, and was able to eat a lot of it without a reaction. I have eaten Costco's cheese pizza, gotten dizzy and sick enough to pass out, but after being treated specifically for that pizza, I can eat it just fine now. It's so crazy to me, that I am still trying for find other reasons for these changes. NAET is based on ancient Indian and Chinese techniques to treat allergies. It states that everything has it's own identifiable energy field, and that's how our brain recognizes a carrot as a carrot or a rock as a rock. Our brain decifers energy. Our brain decifers what is considered dangerous and puts up a block in our energy's natural flow when the energy of a dangerous substance is introduced to our own field. Our immune responses are triggered, in my way of thinking (and my dentist tends to agree), and we all know the results of this when our body recognizes MSG and glutamate and other substances as harmful....histamine, adrenalin, t-cell release. If our brain (energy, nervous system, immune system)is no longer able to recognize what is safe and what is not, the energy flow is impeded, and sets up a chain reaction that is recognized as hypersensitivity or an allergy. What NAET is supposed to do, is to retrain the brain to NOT react to a specific substance that we are overreacting to and to allow the healthy flow of energy to not be impeded. When tested, I reacted to ALL the foods that are high in natural glutamate. I was not allowed to see what was in the labeled vile that was in my hand as he tested me. When he put a vile of MSG in my hand the reaction was so strong, I had to respond with, "what WAS that?" I did the same with aspartame and nonessential amino acids, and chemicals, such as formeldyhde. I used to scoff at things like testing with a muscle response, but since this dentist is gaining nothing monetarily, and I am a skeptic by nature, I have decided to continue treatments. I intend to go back to that Indian restaurant and have my husband order the chicken meal I know I reacted to, and then take some home and be treated for it. I'll order it again, and see if there is any difference. Jack told me and so did this doctor, that MSG has one energy, but when combined in a meal, being a protein, its energy field changes, so that it may be necessary to be treated for the specific dish to be able to tolerate it. He has done this time and again with great results. (60 treatments so far!) He said the same thing applies to cheeses. Each has its own energy that would need treatment. He used to love a certain French cheese, but years ago, when he became sensitive, he had some and had to be rushed to the hospital. It was aged. Eventually, he could not even tolerate any cheese, even mild ones. He has been treated for Romano, and this French cheese, and now he can enjoy them both. He believes that MSG caused his chemical and food sensitivities in the first place. Perhaps our brains CAN learn to respond differently to offending items. Our dentist told us Dr. Devi, who developed the modern NAET treatments, was at a point in her life when all she could eat was brocoli and rice when she discovered what helped her. She also reacted to MSG and aspartame. She blames her own illness on the vast numbers of chemicals and additives our bodies are being forced to tolerate. And they can't. She still tries to avoid MSG, by the way, and says we all should. I don't want all of you to accept what I am sharing with you. I am still being treated. I invite you to do your own research on this controversial treatment. I know that hundreds of medical doctors, dentists and chiropractors, are being trained by Dr. Devi every year. My dentist said his last class included 100 doctors from every field. Jack just informed me that he personally knows 3 other MSG sensitive individuals who have undergone NAET treatments, and they all agree that their reactions are not as severe or numerous now, and they have been treated for quite some time. I am tending to agree with them, but I need more time and treatments and experimentation on my part to suggest that others should try NAET. Jack believes that MSG in the brain can still cause damage and should be avoided, even if the body's response to it is lessened. I have worried about offering false hope to anyone out there, but I would be remiss if I didn't share some information that may help us. Please read all you can find on the Net about this subject before you ask me more questions. It's such a difficult theory to try to explain here without some research on your part. Thanks and Happy Holidays to all!
Judy
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Deb: Thank you for sharing your new journey. I, too, do not know anything about NAET, but I believe what you say is indeed possible. The mind is remarkable. Why should it not be able to retrain? Why should individual substances not exude unique energy? Each has unique chemistry after all. Thank you. Good luck and keep us all posted. Please share any websites that you have found to be useful to you. We all understand your hesitance to share and we all appreciate that you have.
Roy Piwovar
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The treatment sounds harmless and isn't costing you anything, but after reading this article I'm wondering if the results will last or are primarily a placebo effect:

http://www.chirobase.org/06DD/naet.html
Deb A.
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Thank you so much for your encouraging and supportive words, Judy. And Roy, you're so right....I had nothing to lose by trying. And I have had the same questions concerning this being nothing more than a placebo effect. According to Dr. Devi, the results are supposed to be permanent, but some things that we are very sensitive to may have to be treated a couple times. I was treated for nonessential amino acids, MSG, and glutamic acid. Only then did I seem to tolerate more MSG in some foods I tried. But my question is, since we became sensitive over a certain period of being subjected to these toxins, wouldn't repeated abuse to our bodies, if we ingest too much MSG again, just cause us to react eventually again. Most people who are as sensitive to MSG as much as we are, and who have been treated, still react sometimes, but not anything like they used to, unless it's a HUGE amount, as I indicated before. Of course, there's re-treatment. Perhaps that is why the doctor advises us to avoid it as much as possible. Will keep you posted of setbacks or successes if you would like. By all means, I do not want everyone rushing to get treated because of my postings. Treatments can cost anywhere from $25.00 to $65.00 a piece and most likely will not be covered by many policies. And Dr. Devi has posted a warning that people who are not trained properly are coming up with their own interpretation of the treatment and are complaining to her if they don't work. In every case so far, she has not been the one to train these people in the first place. www.naet.com
I also did a search with the words: NAET testimonials, and NAET doctors, and NAET treatments. One more thing. Jack told me while he was waiting one time for a treatment in Devi's office, a mother brought in a baby girl who was covered with terrible sores and rashes all over her little body. She cried continually and the parents had tried everything else for months. In about a week, he saw the baby again in the office, and was shocked at the difference. The parents were just as amazed. She looked wonderful and the parents said she was happy all the time now. He saw that with a young woman so bent over with Fibromyalgia and pain, that she had to use a walker. She is walking strong now and says she is no longer taking her medications. Now the baby's case couldn't be called as subjective as the woman's. But it could be called a coincidence, I suppose.
Gerry Bush
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Deb A.- Thanks for sharing your experiences with NAET. I must say that I am quite the skeptic only because it cannot be natural for the human body to be subjected to as many chemicals in our food supply as we are today. However, I commend you for trying the NAET program. We are all at our wits end trying to survive in a chemical laced environment that our bodies were not meant to be subjected to. I will look further into NAET because any relief from the MSG poisoning is welcomed. There must be some credibility deserved by NAET if educated professionals are looking into it.
Judy, you can find NAET at:
http://www.naet.com
Deb S
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Deb A. -- All I can say is WOW. I too am skeptical, but also very intrigued. The "placebo effect" question does present itself, but the results of treating infants and animals would answer to that. I will look forward to your continuing comments on the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of the NAET treatments. If we can get past all of our preconceptions and keep an open mind, many things are possible. Seeing is believing. I commend you (and Jack Samuels) for your adventureous spirit and candid disclosure.
Deb A.
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Tom, I forgot to thank you for following through trying to get Dana's e mail address for us.
Great job! Now if we can just get people to take a few moments to e mail her. Any good suggestions of what would be best to ask or tell her????
It's a good idea to be prepared with a sample e mail or phone conversation when we get media attention related to our cause. In fact, I have thought at times that we should post a sample letter to our state reps, food companies, and the FDA on our site so that people have some idea of what to say. If anyone wants to take up this project, we all would be appreciative. Just send any samples to me and we will post them. I want to get a survey posted here, also, along with an informative pamphlet that people can download and print up themselves for distribution to doctors, health fairs, schools, etc. Volunteers to help me with these projects are most welcomed.
Gerry Bush
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OK, everyone, just in case you ever doubted the power of your own voice, please read the following successful campaign to keep aspartame out of the Oakland, CA schools. I stumbled on this and thought it very inspiring. Carol H. I think you will find this series of correspondence especially interesting as it relates to pituitary tumors in rats!


Subj: [Aspartame Support Group] Re: Pepsi defeated re Oakland schools
Date: 11/30/00 10:27:35 AM US Mountain Standard Time

From: Mission-Possible-USA@altavista.net (Betty Martini)

To: CarolFaust@aol.com

Dear Carol,

Thanks for the good news. It shows what consumer power can do! And thanks
to all on the list who wrote. It shows they got the information. We can
get this done in all schools if we get the information to the right people.

All my best,
Betty

At 01:55 AM 11/30/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Subj: Oakland/Pepsi victory, take two
>Date: 11/29/2000 12:44:18 PM Pacific Standard Time
>From: andy@commercialfree.org (Andy Hagelshaw)
>
>Oakland/Pepsi Update
>
>Victory! Oakland school board finally kills the contract.
>
>UPDATE 11/29
>
>OK- now THIS is a victory! The Oakland school board has finally killed the
>proposed deal with Pepsi.
>
>Read the article from the Oakland Tribune at
>http://www.oaklandtribune.com/S-ASP-Bin/ContentFrmBldr.ASP?puid=490
>
>Contact the Center for Commercial-Free Public Education to receive a hard
>copy of the article.
>
>On Monday, November 20, Oakland school administrators pulled a surprise move
>and attempted to bring up the Pepsi contract before the board Business and
>Finance committee for a vote, contradicting the decision made in September to
>table it for the foreseeable future.
>
>The move for a vote was supposedly ordered by Oakland school superintendent
>Dennis Chacones, who had already budgeted money from a Pepsi deal into the
>current district budget, despite the fact that no contract had yet been
>signed.
>
>Happily, two of the three attending board members on the committee (Dan
>Siegel and Jean Quan) refused to even let the contract come to a vote,
>effectively killing the proposal. Dan Siegel, board president, was especially
>forceful with his quote "I would rather have a little less money and
>healthier children."
>
>The difference in Dan's attitude between August and November illustrates how
>much public input affected his opinion!
>
>Again, we want to thank all the people who made phone calls, wrote letters
>and emails, and came out to the various meetings to speak to the school
>board!
>
>We will continue to monitor the Oakland situation for future developments.
>
>For more information call the Center for Commercial-Free Public Education at
>1-800-UNPLUG1 or email us at unplug@igc.org
>Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:36:27 -0500
>To: unplug@igc.org
>From: Betty Martini
>Subject: Fwd: Pepsi deal trying again in Oakland
>
>Gentlemen:
>
>I'm writing you about the Pepsi contract mentioned in this email. Perhaps
>you are not aware of the seriousness of the matter. Pepsi sells Diet
>Pepsi and Pepsi One with aspartame, and no telling how many other of their
>products have this chemical poison. Go to www.dorway.com/handouts.html
>and read "They're Poisoning Our Kids" which is the testimony of seven
>physicians who are the top authority on the aspartame issue. Notice, for
>instance, that Dr. Baret gave over 300 children a product with aspartame
>and almost all of them had behavioral problems, loss of concentration,
>etc. When taken off the toxin they reverted back to normal.
>
>Parents Magazine in Sept l999 wrote an article What's Happening To Our
>Kids and mentioned that almost every family is involved and that by the
>time a child has reached the 4th level of high school one out of four has
>contemplated suicide! This is outrageous. The phenylalanine in aspartame
>lowers the seizure threshold of the brain and depletes serotonin. Lowered
>serotonin triggers manic depression, anxiety, panic attacks, rage,
>paranoia, hallucinations, insomnia and suicidal tendencies - for starters.
>
>Also, aspartame is an addictive drug and methanol is classified in Sax's
>as a narcotic. See H. J. Roberts, M.D., paper on Aspartame Addiction on
>www.dorway.com
>
>Aspartame triggers ADD and birth defects. See Dr. Louis Elsas testimony
>before Congress on DORway (pediatric professor at Emory University,
>genetics) and Dr. Roberts position paper on pregnancy and aspartame.
>
>Take Michael Fox for an example who was a Diet Pepsi spokesman. An
>informant says he is highly addicted and uses up to 14 Diet Pepsi's a
>day. Aspartame can precipitate Parkinson's Disease (Read Aspartame
>(NutraSweet) Is It Safe?, Charles Press, H. J. Roberts, M.D., - Amazon.com
>and Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills by neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock,
>M.D., amazon.com) and then it changes the dopamine level of the
>brain. Michael Fox wanted to know why he got an old man's disease at the
>age of 30. Why don't his drugs work? Because aspartame is really a drug
>and changes the dopamine level of the brain. They can't work. He was
>taking L-dopa!!
>
>Is the problem a matter of public record. Yes, in fact, there was so much
>outrage after aspartame was approved from the deadly symptoms of this
>toxin that there were three congressional hearings. Admittedly, the
>pharmaceutical companies have lots of power and lots of money and paid
>certain senators in Congress to stop a bill to do independent studies on
>aspartame and put a moratorium on it - like Senator Orrin Hatch who was a
>hippocrite in Congress. I have one of his press releases that says "Hatch
>has no to congressional hearings on aspartame".
>
>Aspartame was originally manufactured by Searle and the FDA asked that
>they be indicted for fraud. However, the defense team hired both U.S.
>Prosecutors, Skinner and Conlon, and the statute of limitations
>expired. Aspartame was approved when Dr. Arthur Hull Hayes was appointed
>by President Reagan to do the deadly deed. A Board of Inquiry was set up
>and they told the FDA not to approve it. Dr. Hayes over-ruled that Board
>of Inquiry and then went to work for the PR firm of the manufacturer and
>has refused to speak to the press ever since including Fox News who went
>to his house about a year ago and asked him if he didn't owe the American
>people an explanation for what he did. You can hear the audio of this 12
>minute newsclip in Washington, D.C. on www.dorway.com
>
>In l985 Monsanto bought Searle and their politics. In l986 the Community
>Nutrition Institute petitioned the FDA to ban aspartame because hundreds
>of people were going blind and having seizures. The FDA refused.
>
>In l996 John Olney, M.D., made world news over the aspartame/brain tumor
>association. Now the public is coming down with the same brain tumor as
>the rats sustained in the original studies. Aspartame breaks down to
>diketopiperazine, a brain tumor agent that gave rats astrocytomas,
>pituitary adenomas and many other tumors.
>
>Now H. J. Roberts, M.D., has declared Aspartame Disease a world
>plague. His 800 page medical text will soon be published on this epidemic
>and will be able to be attained from his web site,
>www.sunsentpress.com He has other publications including Defense Against
>Alzheimers Disease (nominated for a Pulitzer) where he explains that
>aspartame is escalating this disease.
>
>Do you want kids to be full of rage, depressed, suicidal, addicted, blind
>and have seizures and brain tumors? That's only the beginning. Read the
>FDA report of 92 symptoms on www.dorway.com
>
>I just returned from a lecture tour in the UK and the kids on aspartame
>have the same problems. As Dr. Roberts said in his first book, Aspartame
>(NutraSweet) Is It Safe? in the chapter on children's behavioral problems
>- you really have to take into consideration aspartame when you think of
>children killing children.
>
>We ask that all schools remove pop machines. Perhaps ignorance can be
>forgiven if manufacturers are sent records on aspartame and then remove it
>from their products. How do you forgive Coke and Pepsi who knew before
>they ever put it in pop. Read the protest of the National Soft Drink
>Association on www.dorway.com that became part of the Congressional Record.
>
>Unplug the machines - give life back to our kids. Remember it also
>reduces IQ - it is composed of three neurotoxins!
>
>Betty Martini, Founder, Mission Possible International (warning the world
>off aspartame)
>770 242-2599
>>From: CarolFaust@aol.com
>>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:06:56 EST
>>Subject: Pepsi deal trying again in Oakland
>>To: bettym19@mindspring.com
>>X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 123
>>
>>Subj: Pepsi coming up again in Oakland this coming Monday!
>>Date: 11/17/2000 6:30:40 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>From: andy@commercialfree.org (Andy Hagelshaw)
>>To: andy@commercialfree.org (CA email list 7/00)
>>
>>
>>Oakland/Pepsi Update
>>
>>We are worried: Pepsi matter being brought up again to the Oakland board
>>
>>UPDATE 11/17
>>
>>Despite the overwhelming public opposition to the proposed Pepsi contract
>>this past fall, and the decision of the board in September to stop
>>considering the matter, Oakland school administrators are raising the
>>possibility of a contract with Pepsi AGAIN at the school board Business and
>>Finance Committee meeting on Monday, November 20.
>>
>>This is happening despite the fact that a promised committee has yet to be
>>formed to evaluate the nutrition policy of the school district regarding
>>soda. Our information tells us that school administrators actually might
>>have the nerve to suggest to the board that a contract should be signed now,
>>to be in place up until the nutrition committee would make its
>>recommendations.
>>
>>In other words, even though the district may decide in the near future that
>>soda may be completely inappropriate for Oakland schools, administrators are
>>pushing for more soda and more soda advertising in the meantime! (The cart
>>before the horse syndrome.)
>>
>>We have hope, given their recent statements, that the board Business and
>>Finance Committee will turn down this latest attempt to push Pepsi on
>>Oakland students. But since you can never be sure, here are a few things you
>>can do at the last minute:
>>
>>THINGS YOU CAN DO:
>>
>>1‹Please Call 510-879-8199 (the Administration Building) and leave a
>>message
>>through the voicemail system for school board president Dan Siegel, who also
>>sits on the Business and Finance Committee. Please also leave a message for
>>Jason Hodge, the Chair of the committee, and if possible committee members
>>Jean Quan and Harold Pendergrass. You should identify yourself (name;
>>student/ teacher/parent, etc.) and TELL THEM TO STAND BY THEIR FIRST
>>DECISION AND REJECT (AGAIN) THE PEPSI CONTRACT NOBODY WANTS.
>>
>>2--Come if you can to the Business and Finance Committee meeting happening
>>Monday, November 20th at 4:30 PM. The meeting will be in the Board Room of
>>the Oakland Unified School District offices, 1025 2nd Avenue, Suite 320. We
>>will testify against the Pepsi deal.
>>Gentlemen:
>
>I'm writing you about the situation mentioned in this email.
>
>
>>For more information call the Center for Commercial-Free Public Education at
>>1-800-UNPLUG1 or email us at unplug@igc.org
>>
>>
>>forwarded by Carol Faust
>Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:36:27 -0500
>To: unplug@igc.org
>From: Betty Martini
>Subject: Fwd: Pepsi deal trying again in Oakland
>

>
>>For more information call the Center for Commercial-Free Public Education at
>>1-800-UNPLUG1 or email us at unplug@igc.org
>>
>>
>>forwarded by Carol Faust
Roy Piwovar
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Some of the guilty:

http://www.aspartame.com/indicted
Gerry Bush
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Hey Deb A., Maybe we can do something like the indictment page! It's great. Thanks Roy, I loved the connection.
Deb S
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Gerry - Your posting is particularly interesting to me because our local school district just signed contracts with Coke and Pepsi to put vending machines at the high schools. There was a lot of opposition, mostly about kids consuming so much sugar and being subjected to advertising at school. I have printed out your post and will send it to the school board.

Deb A. - At the bottom of the main page at http://aspartamekills.com they have a link to http://www.msgmyth.com/aspartam.htm -- which is broken (you must have deleted that page from your server or renamed it). You may want to contact them about it.
Deb A
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Love the indictment page. I'd like to see Jack Samuels come up with one like it for MSG since he is the man who sued the FDA about better labeling and lost. www.truthinlabeling.org
If we do something like this, I feel we would have to make it as professional and accurate as possible, sans the innuendos, like the mustache comment.
Gerry Bush
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Here's another great media article regarding excitotoxins. It also addresses PCS (Polychemical Syndrome):

Researcher Believes Aspartame Promotes Hypersensitivity Syndrome
By Don Harkins

From the November 2000 Idaho Observer

Most people are by now aware that the artificial sweetener aspartame becomes formaldehyde, a dangerous toxin for which neither the Food and Drug Administration nor the Environmental Protection Agency has identified a safe level of ingestion for humans. James Bowen, M.D., a physician who has dedicated a tremendous amount of time and resources to the study of aspartame, has identified the neurotoxin to be a catalyst for polychemical hypersensitivity syndrome (PCS).

PCS is a condition that effects increasing numbers of people who experience varying degrees of allergic reactions to chemical exposure.

According to Dr. Bowen, “The Persion Gulf Syndrome is largely PCS from the massive NutraSweet [aspartame] exposure experienced by our men in combat units in the Persian Gulf.”

The Pentagon has repeatedly denied such allegations since they claim that PCS does not exist. The fact that nothing in orthodox medicine seems to help soldiers stricken with Gulf War Illness (GWI) is an indication to orthodox doctors that GWI symptoms are psychosomatic.

“This illustrates the highly significant feature of aspartame poisoning; that it is an extreme hypersensitization agent which is highly reactive with other chemicals -- especially toxic ones like the nerve gas and nitrogen mustard gas to which our troops were exposed in the gulf when our government tried to destroy the stockpiles of these gases they had previously supplied to Saddam Hussein. This is a very poignant part of the NutraSweet issue because those who had problems with NutraSweet will now experience recurrences of those same problems when exposed to even the most minute doses of various toxic agents,” explained Dr. Bowen.

Dr. Bowen's findings are supported by government studies regarding formaldehyde sensitivity that were conducted many years ago. It was found then that, once a person becomes hypersensitive to the toxin, he can experience a violent physical reaction to a formaldehyde exposure of as little as one billionth of a gram.

If Dr. Bowen's thesis is correct, the millions of Americans who habitually drink sodas and eat foods artificially sweetened with aspartame are not only vulnerable to the entire menu of 92 aspartame-related complications which range from impotence, hair loss, obesity and chronic irritability to death, they are leaving themselves open to a lifetime of multiple chemical sensitivity.

“The reason I feel it's so important to publish this information is that those who have been victimized by aspartame really don't have a good shot at enjoying the health they had before unless they recognize the problem and know how to deal with it,” Dr. Bowen concluded.

The saddest joke on the American consumer is that aspartame-sweetened sodas are marketed as “diet” soft drinks. The truth is that aspartame suppresses the production of serotonin, which makes them crave carbohydrates which, in turn, causes them to gain weight.


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The Idaho Observer
P.O. Box 457
Spirit Lake, Idaho 83869
Phone: 208-255-2307
Email: observer@dmi.net
Web: http://proliberty.com/observer/




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DR. MERCOLA'S COMMENT: Nutrasweet is not your friend. This is article is an excellent reminder that you should NOT be consuming any of this product due to its profound negative effects on health. If you are not aware of this please read the first link below as it is a book on Nutrasweet that is about 150 pages long.

Nutrasweet's patent has expired so you are starting to see its clones which are likely to be every bit as bad. I am in the process of preparing an article on sucralose (Splenda), which should be published soon, but in the meantime it should also be avoided.

Remember that your body does not do well with regular sugar, let alone synthetic sugar substitutes. About 70% of the population suffers from an excess of insulin (excess weight, high blood pressure, diabetes, or high cholesterol) and nearly all of these people would benefit from avoiding ANY sweeteners, even including herbal sweeteners like Stevia until their signs of insulin excess resolve.


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Related Articles:

Aspartame - Avoid It

ASPARTAME: WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW CAN HURT YOU

Aspartame - History of Fraud and Deception


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Those who wish to learn more about aspartame are encouraged to visit the most comprehensive archive of aspartame information available anywhere in the world. Hop on the Internet and go to: http://www.dorway.com and find out why you must convince the people you love to stop consuming products artificially sweetened with aspartame.
MEMorrisNJ
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For anyone wanting to be included in a class action on aspartame who has suffered seizures, eye problems or blindness, or brain tumors, etc. please contact Betty Martini or send complete history to:

Mrs. Betty Martini, Founder
Mission Possible International
9270 River Club Parkway
Duluth, Georgia 30097

770 242-2599

Bettym19@mindspring.com

More information on aspartame, http://www.dorway.com
New medical text on global plague of Aspartame Disease
http://www.aspartameispoison.com
Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic, by H. J.
Roberts, M.D. or call 1 800 814 - 9800

Betty reports they are still looking for the INSIDER. Whistleblowers are needed as well as autopsy reports.

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