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| Jerry Story
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My father told me that one time he vomited and then the dog came around and the dog figured he missed out on a treat. If you think I'm trying to gross you out, then you have the right idea. Now that you are grossed out, consider this: Some foods are not fit for a dog to eat. Here is proof: http://www.greenermagazine.com/articlesMSG.html [quote] In many Philippine provinces, as in the rest of Asia, it is not uncommon for people to eat dogs, after poisoning them with one or two tablespoons of monosodium glutamate (MSG), placed inside a roll of bread. The dog salivates, loses consciousness and involuntarily spasms until breathing stops. [/quote] | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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Jerry, I get sick as a dog from MSG to the point of unconsciousness. Lucky it hasn't gone to the final step. | ||
| Deb A. |
Dr. George Schwartz shares that same tantalizing bit of information in his book, "In Bad Taste: The MSG Symptom Complex". | ||
| Deb A. |
Hah! I just clicked on the link...the article IS by Dr. Schwartz. How did you find that article, Jerry? I met Dr. Schwartz at a NoMSG conference in 1997. He's a toxicologist. Unfortunately, most people would rather eat a bag of Doritos than listen to or believe a trained toxicologist who tells them that the MSG in their favorite snack is destroying their health. That's what we are really up against...food is emotionally tied to us. We are so conditioned to crave certain foods from the time we are young. The world seems off kilter at the thought of giving up our Ding Dongs and Coke. That's human nature, and the food companies depend on that.....and they addict us with excitotoxins, too. | ||
| Jerry Story
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I found the article by hearing on Coast to Coast about how they kill dogs with MSG. Then I did a Google search. | ||
| Jerry Story
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Question: How many grams does one tablespoon of MSG weigh? Whatever that is, that or twice that is enough to kill a dog. Possibly less is enough. The glutes would have us believe that there is no difference between bound and unbound glutamate in the way the body handles it. If that is true, then maybe you can kill a dog by feeding it enough meat. Like fer instance from USDA data, "GAME MEAT,MOOSE,RAW". If you feed the dog 567 grams (= 20.0 ounces) the dog would get 20.4 grams of glutamic acid. I don't know how big a meal this would be for an average size dog but maybe the dog could eat it. I'm guessing that 20.4 grams of glutamic acid is at least one tablespoon, maybe two, based on weights of other things. Then according to theory the dog is supposed to salivate and lose consciousness and involuntarily spasm until breathing stops, as a result of eating 20.0 ounces of moose meat. Where did I go wrong in my reasoning? | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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Jerry, a gram is about the weight of a paper clip, and that is enough to cause an MSG reaction in many people. | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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Jerry, I'm guessing a tablespoon of MSG would weigh about the same as an equal amount of salt. One tablespoon of salt contains 6000 mg sodium, or 6 grams. Salt also has chloride, so it should total more. http://www.vestibular.org/dietaryconcerns.html http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_medical.htm | ||
| Jerry Story
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It is possible to buy monosodium glutamate in pure form from a normal grocery store. If one tablespoon is enough to kill a dog, then this is godawfull deadly stuff. Shouldn't the package have a skull and crossbones on it or something? Is MSG really that bad? Will one or two tablespoons really kill a dog. Can this be confirmed by a source other than Dr. Schwartz? Do dogs have any special sensitiveness to MSG? Dogs digest a chunk of meat in about an hour while we take several hours to digest the same chunk of meat. Does this mean that MSG would hit dogs harder? | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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Jerry, Although Dr. George Schwartz's contention seems to be based on a single letter to him, MSG is known to cause seizures in dogs, and the description of their death sounds like a seizure. What hurts animals usually hurts people or we wouldn't be testing things on them first. MSG will never be banned without a major scandal or a more competetive substitute. Ethics is not the main concern. It's all about the bottom line. http://www.noaminosan.org/E/Pages/03ReactionMSG.html | ||
| Deb A. |
Yes, one can buy pure bagged MSG in any Chinese grocery store, Jerry. I wrote in my book about a couple people who wrote to report that their pets reacted to the MSG in their pet food with seizures. One reported that he learned too late about MSG to save his dog. | ||
| Carol H |
Check out dogtorj's website. That is a vet that is against even feeding dogs wheat products. I quite agree with him. | ||
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