| Author |
Message |
jay gremillion
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 2:40 pm: |    |
does anyone know if there are any pizza chains that are safe in reguard to msg? |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 8:48 pm: | |
None that I am aware of. But you may have better luck at samll family pizzarias...ask them to make it your way, and have fresh tomatoes put on instead of the sauce...nix the meats. |
Sam Pfanstiel
| | Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 3:27 pm: | |
Papa Johns is MSG-free, although just to be safe, we stay away from any meat. My wife gets horrible headaches when she has any MSG, and we have been safe with their thin-crust cheese pizza on many occasions. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 6:44 am: | |
From Papa John's web site (I'd still avoid pepperoni and sausage toppings):
http://www.papajohns.com/menu/faq.htm |
Ruth
| | Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 12:05 pm: | |
I got a really bad headache from a couple of bites of Papa John's pizza a few weeks ago. I was talking to a couple a few days later and they said they never get headaches from pizza, except for the Papa John's they ate the week before. I don't remember what the pizza I ate had on it, but I think it was probably plain cheese, and if not, I'm sure I would have eaten around the sausage and pepperoni. I doubt there's a pizza out there that is totally free of MSG in the hidden ingredients. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 4:27 pm: | |
Most pizza places I know of usually have a container of parmesan cheese on the counter if not the tables too. Parmesan is not a fresh food. It is very high in free glutamate. Many people may actually be dosing themselves with MSG at a pizzeria if they add parmesan at the table. Garlic Knots which seem to be popular here in New Jersey also are dusted with parmesan. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 8:17 am: | |
I read through the Papa John's site, and there are a few substances that are mentioned that might cause problems: lactic acid is derived from fermented beets, which are high in glutamate, tomato sauces contain citric acid, also a culprit, and although they do not add MSG to their product, do we know what is in the sauce they use? Tomatoes themselves, along with mushrooms and cheese and any processed meats, contain lots of glutamate. Maybe we are not talking about pure factory produced MSG salt being added here, but pizza generally can be potentionally a problem for the highly sensitive. Many of us can handle one piece of cheese or veggie pizza, but many others may react to one bite. Just know your limits. We make a whole wheat pizza dough and break up chunks of whole mozzarella or Tillamook colby/jack cheese and toss on the crust. Then I chop or slice up several not-too-ripe tomatoes and scatter that on top along with lots of basil, some salt and pepper, red pepper flakes and minced garlic...drizzle with good olive oil and sometimes add some chopped green pepper, mushrooms (go easy on these) and/or black olives. Bake and enjoy. Now that I can eat. If making a crust seems like too much work, try flour tortillas or using a biscuit dough. Juanitas brand of tortillas doesn't bother us. Also, for a meat, try spicing up a pound of ground meat with garlic, salt, pepper, basil, and oregano...and pepper flakes. |
Jen
| | Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 6:58 am: | |
I can't eat Papa John's cheese pizza at all. I usually eat Imo's cheese pizza. But, only a few slices. |
Jennifer
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 6:59 am: | |
As I said before that I eat pizza from Imo's. Plus, I ask for light on the sauce. Basically it looks like the pizza has no sauce and I get a thin crust. The crust is so thin and crisp. |
SueD
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 5:38 am: | |
I've been out of town for 8 days and was stupid enough to eat at Cracker Barrel yesterday. Despite what I thought were some reasonably good menu choices, the brain fog, headache and tingling today are really bad. I looked at some of their products in the country store on the way out and was appalled at the ingredients. Another lesson learned the hard way!! |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 5:07 pm: | |
In April I forgot that I reacted to food at the Cracker Barrel, so I went along with friends and could not sleep for the next two days. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 11:24 pm: | |
Testing |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 5:12 pm: | |
MSG can cause sleep disorder. We don't have a Cracker Barrel here, but I have heard that it's not the best place to go when one is MSG sensitive. |
Carol H
| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 5:40 pm: | |
Cracker Barrel sounds like the country version of Applebees. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 8:03 pm: | |
Thought you all might want to see what ingredients Pizza Hut uses in their sauces, dressings and other things:
http://www.pizzahut.com/Nutrition/ingredients_sauces.asp |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 8:21 pm: | |
The next time you think about going to Burger King, think again:
http://www.burgerking.com/Food/nutrition/Ingredients/ |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 8:29 pm: | |
If Dunkin Donuts took out all the chemicals there'd be little left on the plate:
http://www.dunkindonuts.com/nutrition/nutrition.jsp?prodType=Sandwiches |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 12:47 pm: | |
When the local newspaper did an article about me and the work I do, the journalist started the article with, "You'll never see Debby Anglesey at McDonald's ordering a Big Mac..." I got a call from the local McDonald's headquarters. The man told me that I was not being fair...but I told him I had not written those words nor had I actually said that, even though it was true. I invited him to come over and discuss it with me and he did. I gave him a book to read and told him that while he read it, I would go to McDonald's and underline in their ingredients pamphlet (like the ones listed on these sites, Roy)in red, all the glutamate or MSG containing substances. When he returned, he just laughed out loud since the pages were mostly red. He then said he wanted to buy a book for his mother, who had many of the symptoms. He said he would take the information back to headquarters and I never heard from McDonald's again. That was in 1998. It's no wonder people are getting so fat, sick, sad, and mad all the time. It's a steady diet of excitotoxins from morning to night for the majority of Americans. |
Jackye
| | Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 7:46 pm: | |
I love it, Deb. Hopefully, he took the information and shared with his mother. Roy, I am sharing the sites. People need to know what they are doing to their bodies. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 5:32 pm: | |
Jackye,
While you're at it, here's the ingredients page for McDonald's. Theirs don't seem as unhealthy as the others at first, but scroll a couple pages down to the details and they start to get bad real fast, especially to someone familiar with the hidden sources of MSG.
http://www.mcdonalds.com/countries/usa/food/nutrition/categories/ingredients/index.html |
pherrling
| | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 11:42 am: | |
Hi all -
I found a way to eat pizza that doesn't bother me (as long as I don't eat more than 4 pieces) and will hopefully help someone else. Papa Murphy's is the place to go and here is what to order. Start with a vegetarian gourmet and do the following: no sauce (icky stuff in the ingredients); no yellow cheese (annatto coloring); no artichokes (packed in citric acid and other stuff); no herb seasoning; tomatoes and mushrooms on the side (they will put them in a container for you). The pizza has white cheese (mozzarella that has safe ingredients), zucchini, spinach, red onions, and the crust. (The crust contains flour that is enriched but without all of the other stuff that you find in other flours, so go easy). Cook according to instructions. While the pizza is cooking, make your own garlic butter with a minced clove of garlic and a tablespoon or two of organic butter. Drizzle over the top, or dip and it is excellent. Like I said before, more than 4 pieces gives me a headache. Papa Murphy's was very gracious when I went to check them out. They gave me everything that they had and let me stand there and take notes. I went during an off time and I was very appreciative of their assistance. They get my business!! |
pherrling
| | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 1:29 pm: | |
Oops. . .I forgot something. When I take the pizza out of the oven, I sprinkle on just a few of the tomatoes and the mushrooms to get heated by the hot pizza. If I put on my own organic tomatoes and mushrooms, it is even better (and then I eliminated them from my order at the store). Have to wait for summer though. Good Luck. |
Laura Gould
| | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 5:33 am: | |
We make our own pizza dough and pizza.....it's not hard...and very yummy =) For those with bread machines it's even easier...many have a pizza dough setting =) I make a double dough recipe then freeze half...ready to go for the next pizza night =)
A pizza stone that makes a nice crust...almost like cooking in a stone oven =)
I have to admit that I miss eating out...I feel like the cooking never ends.....I enjoy cooking but sometimes I wish I could just step back from all the jobs. We hardly every ate out before the MSG reaction came into our lives...but we did go out a few times a year. Our favorit resteraunt was Japanese.....=( Even ordering take-out now and then was a rare treat.......ah well......
When I begin to feel exhausted I just remind myself that at least this is something I can control to some extent...and that it is helping Graham to feel better...then I go wash some more dishes =o)
xox
laura
Mom of Graham |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 4:04 am: | |
Italy is being invaded by the fast food giants. One food critic, Edoardo Raspelli, dared to criticize the food at McDonald's and is now being sued by them, purportedly for $25 million, for remarks like: "It takes a big effort to imagine this food as healthy.''
http://www.jrnl.net/news/00/May/jrn92080500.html |
Jackye
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:53 pm: | |
Oh, Roy...I have heard it all...well, probably not. Can you imagine what depositions will be like in this case?!!! One of you MSG free veterans should contact Edoardo and serve as an expert...Ha! |
vrtu1
| | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 8:00 am: | |
Several years after applying-- McDonald's, Kentucky Fried Chicken and Pizza Hut were allowed to set up shop in India. There were problems though, in August 1995, Bangalore municipal food inspectors announced that they found 2.8 percent MSG in KFC which was over India's MSG food ceiling limit of 1%, so Bangalore inspectors revoked KFC's license and closed down the restaurant in September arguing that KFC: exceeded legal MSG limits, failed to disclose seasonings and served food unfit for consumption. KFC answered that the laboratory testing equipement was inaccurate and took them to court, KFC was allowed to reopen. Just love those high court shinanigans don't you?... reminds me of the last presidential election, and also the medical marijuana case. At any rate yah, let's just have that one world order and spread the devil's and fascist government's everywhere most favorite economic poison------MSG. |
Jerry Story
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 4:19 am: | |
About restaurants:
There ain't no such thing as a good restaurant. |
Valerie
| | Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 11:10 am: | |
I went to Chili's and ordered steamed vegies plain. The waitress came out with them and I noticed spices on them. I sent them back telling her I could go to the hospital if I ate the wrong thing and she brought me a fresh plate. I ate a few bites and noticed a "flavor" when I inquired what it was she said "just butter", I asked for the manager and a list of ingredients, the butter was MSG laden soy spread laced with season salt. I suffered a two day headache and now trust NO restaurant. I'm with you Jerry Story! |
Margie
| | Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 2:11 pm: | |
VERY WELL PUT! How horrible!! |
Judy T
| | Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 7:29 pm: | |
Valerie: Last night we went to a restaurant.I ordered a side green salad that came with the steak; I asked for just the lettuce, tomato and onion. Well,it came with bacos too. Then the steak came with a strange flavor...just 'special salt'. Anyway, they were nice and finally understood; plain as ordered. It is difficult sometimes but I actually feel sorry for the waiters. They aren't being ornery, they just don't understand. Kinda takes the fun out of going out to dinner so I just consider going out more of a social event and not an eating event. |
Joyce T.
| | Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 7:43 am: | |
We went to Myrtle Beach SC and ate at seafood restaurants 5 nites in a row. It certainly is a chore to order food. I request no seasonings whatsoever, no garnishes, (lemon makes me ill and a lemon slice is always on the fish) and please scrape the grill before grilling my fish to elimnate leftover seasonings from previous cooking. I have to take a redskin potato for them to microwave and bring my own homemade dinner roll. Some resturants won't microwave the potato, they are too busy. This really does take the fun out of eating out, but we enjoy the beach. By the third day I started feeling sick, we left on the 5th day, were going to stay longer, but thought it would be unwise. Eating is a great big PAIN!! |
Valerie
| | Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 9:15 am: | |
Joyce, I'm going to visit my folks for thanksgiving and will be gone for a week. I'm freaking out as I no longer trust any resaurants. I will bring as much food as I can but it's hard to keep stuff fresh. I don't do well with citus either. To be honest I can't trust that my mother will not "spice" her foods as she is into a life long habit. I agree, eating can be a great big pain! |
Ruth
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 9:42 am: | |
I have to be very careful eating fish, especially in a restaurant. I think most fish are treated with sulfites to make sure they look fresh for the consumer. I've read, and I think it was Deb A. that said it, that fish wouldn't make it to shore, let alone to the fish market or grocery store without sulfites to keep them edible. After avoiding all restaurants for 3 years, I tried a fish restaurant with friends, completely forgetting about the sulfites, and got a whopping headache. My Chinese friends have told me to try their restaurants, where the fish are still alive and swimming around in a tank. You pick one out and they cook it for you. I have not been brave enough yet to try it, but that's my definition of fresh fish-still swimming around where I can see them. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 10:19 am: | |
Valerie, you brought back a painful memory for me!Please be careful when eating Thanksgiving dinner.
Several years ago, when I was pretty new at this, we went to Seattle to share Thanksgiving with my mother and sisters. It was when some of my relatives still thought I was nuts about MSG, including my mom. My sister assured me that they had bought a natural turkey, the brand I specified, and we brought side dishes I could enjoy. As they passed the gravy, I asked if it was made from scratch...mom seemed a bit insulted, and said, "of course it is". As the meal ended, I began to flush, got a bit dizzy, and I knew why that gravy was so tasty. Again, I grilled mom..."how homemade was that gravy?..did you add any flavorings?" She said she had added a package of dried onion soup. My sisters, surprisingly, got mad at her, but it was too late..my day and the next 4 were ruined. Since then, mom, has had me talk at her church, and she beamed proudly the whole time. Ruth, I find I can eat the sole from Costco. But I put it in a bowl of cold water and squeeze it well...and repeat that, changing the water a few times. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 10:20 am: | |
I also can eat the frozen uncooked large shrimp from Costco...but I also clean it very well. It's great skewered and brushed with lemon butter and grilled. |
Howard M
| | Posted on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 6:06 pm: | |
On a lighter note:
I can only eat what God/Nature packaged, it seems.
No packaged nuzzink. ((Includes the fancy stuff like bread (grains), cheese(milk, even beef), people learned to build with the original materials by adding seemingly innocuous stuff))
You who can eat home-made bread are most lucky individuals. Grains are inimical to humans...me included. 2.3 million years of evolution developed a genetic propensity in humans to easily digest that which could be stabbed, grabbed or dug from the ground. Only in the last 10,000 years ((a mere pittance...a spit in the cosmic bucket, as it were)) has the human begun to eat grains and "cow" products. Our genetic bluprint *perhaps* cannot yet recognise these new *foods*?
And thus sets up a situation where the immune system is compromised, even a little. Add the newest experiment...the food additive game for fun and profit, and you now have the big three...
New genetic foods plus the added benefit of msg/sulphite/phosphate etc laden foods to assist in the tasting mechanism and bingo...you have the latest experiment in full swing.
hmm...perhaps not such a lighter note, after all.
H |
Valerie
| | Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 11:58 am: | |
Howard,
I have to agree with you and at first it was not by choice. I'm down to fresh vegies,fruit,eggs and small amounts of meat. Can you eat any meat? I'm happy with the restrictions, as I'm feeling better. Is it hard for you to travel? I'm so new at this and I keep having setbacks. I appreciate any advice. MSG was the beginning of sensitivities and since refining my diet I am finding that I am reacting to a whole lot more.
I like your post, Howard. |
Judy T
| | Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 5:31 pm: | |
Howard, I'm stealing your comment "what could be stabbed, grabbed or dug from the earth". I was thinking of fish and guess that's in the grab category but I may say "what could be stabbed, grabbed, dug or pulled from the water". Anyway, thanks. I get to eat bread once a week after a few years, I do have milk about once a week by choice, and I can eat all meats (natural of course). Like you say Valerie, it wasn't by choice at first but now it's a way of life. Travelling is really hard. I do eggs for breakfast (so much for hotel continental breakfasts), hamburgers for lunch and steak for dinner. I always end up gaining weight which is a bummer that I have to deal with. I have finally learned how to travel with hard boiled eggs, some precooked meat and peanut butter. That's when driving; flying is a problem. This food takes the edge off so I can survive the travel. Food on trips becomes a medicine not a pleasure. |
Howard M
| | Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 6:00 am: | |
Valerie,
Meat... I eat only Elk, Bison and organic chicken. Can't seem to tolerate whatever they're putting in beef. I suspect it's got something to do with the hormones and antibiotics that are used.
Travel...my travel is restricted now. When we go to the city, we take all our own food and stay at a hotel with a kitchenette. |
Margie
| | Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 2:15 pm: | |
Howard,
Thanks for that insightful post! I did however find a brand of 'organic beef' at albertsons that contains no hormones or antibiotics. "Laura's brand".
I tried to go vegetarian... but found it is nearly impossible. I seem to get nauseated if I don't eat meat. Am not sure why this is..perhaps the lack of taurine or ?
I am slowly finding it easier to deal with my sensitivity to msg by cooking in bulk and freezing stuff for later. I bought several rubbermaid containers and freeze my own 'TV dinners' if you will... It makes things a wee bit easier. |
Valerie
| | Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 7:43 pm: | |
Thank You Howard,
You really helped me. You too Deb, I'm cancelling my Thanksgiving trip. I cannot trust even my most well meaning relatives. Last night I had dinner with my mother in law who asked me for the "NO NO List" She proudly made an apple crisp with rice flour, sugar and rice only. I got the lockjaw, headache etc. so I called to ask for the recipe, it contained brown rice syrup. Live and learn. No more eating anywhere unless I get invited to one of your houses! |
Howard M
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 5:12 am: | |
Margie,
Perhaps it's time to have a look at the full paleolithic regimen. It appears that we humans have a genetic predisposition to meat, berries, roots and some vegetables. Latecomers to the table, like grains and dairy may not be tolerable by some and going back to the "original" diet (which just happens to include absolutely no chemicals) is the only solution.
It works for me. Not only that, it seems to also solve the problem of high GI (Glycemic Index) foods like potatoes, beans (and peas) and thus is good for Reactive Hypoglycemia as well.
http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html |
DJ
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 11:50 am: | |
Hi everyone!
Just a quick note here to say that I
have been on the paleolithic regimen for three
weeks now, hoping to reverse what appears to be
serious RA that appeared out of nowhere about a
year ago...
It is very difficult at first, but I do
believe that it will be worth it. |
Fran
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 10:47 am: | |
DJ
It would be great to hear how you get on. My sister has bad RA (and the meds she took for it gave her esophageal cancer). I have been trying to wean her off MSG and get her to try a paleo diet, but she thinks its a lot of hogswash. Perhaps she would listen to someone who tried it for their RA.
Have you found any relied yet?
Fran |
DJ
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 2:20 pm: | |
Hi Fran!
Honestly, I was in such bad shape this time last year, that where I am today is an enormous improvement.....HOWEVER.....I have a long way to go. I will most definitely keep you posted.
DJ |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 5:27 pm: | |
Fran,
Actually, low dose aspirin is said to reduce the risk of esophageal cancer. If your sister is on the type of medicine in the articles below, her treatment may be more effective with the addition of theanine, a component of green tea, which works by competing with glutamate and therefore blocking it:
http://www.oncoserve.com/gej-ng/10/38/20/48/55/abstract.html
http://www.smartbodyz.com/l-theanine-chemotherapy-doxorubicin-2.htm |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 6:17 pm: | |
I ate Kellogs raisin bran crunch last thurs,had full blown grand mal seizure, this is the second time of eating that cereal that it happened& i figured out it is the whole wheat in it,will not be eating that anymore,DebA in your Book their is a 800 telephone number to call for a list of Drs ,but when you call, it says it is no longer in service.do you know why? |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 6:31 pm: | |
Dj What is RA, |
Jackye
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 6:59 pm: | |
Valerie, I take my food everywhere I go. I don't rely on the cooking of others. Gosh, it has taken me 6 months to figure a lot out. I know it would be an impossible burden on others. Initially, I was self-conscious taking my food into restaurants. I am totally comfortable now. My family and friends order up, and I continue to eat healthy. I recently had a 3 night stay in a hotel. I cooked every meal with a burner and a microwave that go with me. I am planning an educational trip with my husband and son in May to Florida. I will be packing my food, flying out, and enjoying life. It is worth the trouble to have health back. Many thanks to all of you! |
Margie
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 1:09 am: | |
Howard,
Thanks for the link and the reference. I will check it out. Not sure I can go 100% paleo just yet, but I will consider cutting down on the grains and such for the time being. Still learning what the heck I can eat right now.
As for paleo being chemical free, would you believe I had a reaction to watermellon? I bought one from albertsons - seedless variety (although I didn't realize it was seedless at the time) and wham. |
Fran
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 12:35 pm: | |
RA is Rheumatoid Arthritis.
Thanks DJ and Roy.
My sister has erosion and twisting in every joint but her hips and shoulders. Since the cancer her RA has not been playing up but her fibromyalgia has got real bad (I think she needs Mg).
She took aspirin as an NSAID for many years so the aspirin did no stop it. I can't remember the types of chemo she got. Also she was radiated to the maximum and can never get it again. Her Dr's won't allow her to take ANY supplements. I wanted her to take folic acid as the suplphasalazine she was on for RA is known to deplete folic acid and cause cancer from two studies I read. Her blood checks showed she was deficient in folic acid. But her Dr said that some forms of EC live on folic acid!!! So she will not touch anything. I am hoping word from someone witha similar disease as herself will do the trick.
However, she does drink gren tea sometimes. I will buy her loads of packets next time I go shopping so that is all she has in. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 5:43 pm: | |
Anonymous, what page in the book is that on? We need to change that....it was the number for NoMSG, the National Organization Mobilized to Stop Glutamate...it just went out of business. So sorry.
As for the bran cereal, I doubt it was just the wheat...glutamate is well hidden in many dry cereal ingredients...you can list some from the box here, if you like. |
Valerie
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 6:18 pm: | |
Thanks Jackye,
Thank you for the great advice. I think I have expected more from others and I haven't even straightened myself out totally. Yes, I agree it is worth any trouble to have my health back. It helps to know that it took you a few months as I seem to struggle along. This is the best week yet and thanks to Howard, I have gone Paleo. It's actually easy for me. Hi to Margie, you inspire me too.
Wishing the best for all of you. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 3:32 pm: | |
DEB A.it|s on page 11. the reason i thought it
was the wheat,is because i had not had a really bad seizure for about 6 months,oh i had had mild ones then all of a sudden !BAM! 2 really bad ones and both times the same cereal,& the first ingrediant on the box says whole wheat,so im just guessing,but ive been guessing for 8 yrs.so like you. its still trial & error, |
Howard M
| | Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 4:37 pm: | |
NoMsg Folks,
This outfit seems to be fairly crap-free. I use their tooth oil for toothpaste (it's strong, but the ingredients are: Peppermint Oil, Spearmint Oil and Almond Oil........Period.)
Check it out. Let me know if there is something I am missing.
http://www.avenaoriginals.com/ |
Fran
| | Posted on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 3:03 pm: | |
The tooth oil sounds fantastic. I wish I could find something similar in the UK. But with all good things I think you have to remain vigilant and still read labels. I looked at their 'feed the body section' on supplements. The mineral I looked at was in a base of dulse. That would put the frighteners on me as seaweed is very high in glutamate and I suppose the dulse would have to be processed to be a carrier. |
Deb S
| | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 10:40 pm: | |
Anonymous~
I took a look at the ingredients on a Raisin Bran box at the store today, out of curiosity. It listed "high fructose corn syrup" and "malt flavoring." The malt flavoring would have given me problems. I don't know if it was the same product you consumed, but just to give some examples of hidden MSG that may have been there. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 12:05 pm: | |
Deb S. The Cereal was Kellogs Raisin Bran Crunch, or something like that,i threw it away,but i know the first ingrediant listed was whole wheat, when i go to the store i will make sure that is what it was called,if it is anything different i will let you know,thanks for your trouble. Anonymous |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 12:05 pm: | |
Deb S. The Cereal was Kellogs Raisin Bran Crunch, or something like that,i threw it away,but i know the first ingrediant listed was whole wheat, when i go to the store i will make sure that is what it was called,if it is anything different i will let you know,thanks for your trouble. Anonymous |
Deb S
| | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2003 - 10:20 am: | |
I found the ingredients here~
http://kellogg.marketlocator.com/kelloggs/us/knutr.nsf/0/2334F76CBFCC30A68625697C004EEB16?opendocument&Cat=Cereals
Whole wheat, rice, sugar, raisins, wheat bran, high fructose corn syrup, whole oats, glycerin, brown sugar, corn syrup, salt, barley malt syrup, partially hydrogenated soybean and/or cottonseed oil, modified corn starch, cinnamon, honey, natural and artificial flavor, niacinamide, reduced iron, malt flavoring, ascorbic acid, (vitamin C), zinc oxide, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin A palmitate, riboflavin (vitamin B2), thiamin hydrochloride (vitamin B1), BHT (preservative), folic acid, vitamin B12 and vitamin D.
An MSG-sensitive person might react to any or all of the following: high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, barley malt syrup, modified corn starch, natural and artificial flavor, malt flavoring. And possibly the wheat and oats depending on the method used to process them, i.e., long slow cooking (or high heat) which would break down the proteins (gluten) and free up glutamate. As Deb A. says, some vitamin "carriers" can contain glutamate as well.
I would not automatically suspect the wheat as being "the" culprit, unless one is known to be gluten intolerant or allergic to wheat.
I used to love this one granola and ate it most every morning without any problems. Then the company was bought by a larger "natural foods" company and they changed the recipe and started using "oat syrup" for a sweetener (before it just had honey). At first I only noticed that it tasted a little different but didn't check the ingredients until after a couple weeks of having a stiff, sore neck and sure enough, there was a change. |
Ted
| | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2003 - 4:34 pm: | |
Deb S.
Yikes....not me...nope
Ted |
Margie
| | Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 2:49 am: | |
Hang in there Valerie, I still have 3-4 migraines a month now, but the severity of pain has dropped down quite a bit. The other day I made the mistake of adding Horizon organic Sour creme to a recipe - and had a reaction today from it - It was either the sour cream and/or all the chocolate in the cookies I ate yesterday, but I think it was primarily the cream. I seemed to do okay with Daisy all natural brand sour cream, and should have stuck with it, but NOOOoo.... I had to buy Organic with non-fat dry milk and enzymes (I didn't look at the ingredients very well).
The Brand of chocolate semi-sweet chips I used for making choc-chip cookies was Guittard with real vanilla - (the most expensive brand with the least amount of crap in it I could find)... the ingredients are:
Semisweet chocolate, (sugar, chocolate liquor, cocoa butter), soya lecithin and real vanilla.
I haven't had any problems from the cookies before, but I ate 6 of them yesterday :o), so who knows?
I used about 3 Tablespoons of the sour cream to add to a white sauce recipe along with a few other ingredients (oh man was it good!) |
Valerie
| | Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 6:40 pm: | |
Thanks Margie. This month I've had NO migraine!!! I can't tell you the relief that I feel. My energy level is way up too. Sorry you had a reaction. Sour cream contains tyramine which may have caused a problem. I can't have it at all. No chocolate for me either. I find that if I don't eat the same thing everyday I do pretty well. Keep up the good work. |
Margie
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 7:12 pm: | |
That's Great to hear Valerie! Awesome 
I am planning on experimenting tonight by trying my other brand of sour cream (that I seemed to do okay with before)... there are NO added ingredients, no non fat dry milk or enzymes added to it at all. It is Daisy Brand - I am okay today, and had 2 choc chip cookies last night so I am thinking the culprit was Horizon Brand Sour cream with the added junk. Guess I'll find out tommorrow. |
Jeannie
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 10:52 pm: | |
I just recently found Debbie's book and this site, and I am so incredibly thankful. I could post a whole book on this, but suffice to say that my daughter and husband both are extremely sensitive to MSG, and my daughter uknowingly ate a whole package of Cheese Nips that a friend gave her at camp, and we are now through the second day of extreme reactions to it. Hubby is now third day of blurred vision from a reaction to I don't even remember what. It's exhausting, but I'm cleaning out the pantry. Played UNO with them both tonight and I told them I felt like locking them up together, they were both so jittery. I feel so badly for them.
Anyway, I wanted to post on a hidden source of MSG. For Christmas dinner I made surf&turf. The steak was easy to find an all-natural version of. The lobster was harder; all frozen are in a sulfite solution. I called around town and a grocery store here (FL - Publix) had live lobsters; the clerk said they were swimming in salt water. I asked what kind of salt; he assumed just "salt." Okay, so we got the lobster, dh went to town, then $30.00 worth of food was vomited into the toilet and he was sick for days. I think he's still having effects. I'm sure that the solution the lobsters were swimming in was a sulfite and/or msg solution for one main reason (besides him getting sick): the frozen raw lobster tails stated sulfite solution, and I find it hard to believe that they soak the tails after they kill them. Wouldn't it be easier to let the critters swim around in the solution? AAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHH! It's so frustrating. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 9:53 am: | |
Sulfites are routinely added to the holding tanks of fishing boats.
Thanks for the warning.
Jeannie, it will get less frustrating...your husband and daughter are very lucky to have you. I've come across several wives who do not react to MSG but their husbands do...some are not willing to make the necessary changes in the cooking, saying it's just too hard. I promise it gets easier, so hang in there. |
Jerry Story
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 11:30 am: | |
I swiped this picture from Laurie Forti.
http://ecologos.org/pix/Health/cause-effect.jpg
Cause and effect. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 9:59 am: | |
Excellent! |
Lisa Marie
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 11:18 am: | |
Did anyone see Oprah yesterday with her "trainer" Bob Greene? He has a new book out about eating healthfully. He recommended some fast food items which are good for dieters. McDonald's was the place both he and Oprah seemed to favor-for the chicken salads. I used to like these very much, but stopped eating them when I identified my MSG toxicity. I remember reading somewhere on this board that some of you wrote to Oprah and tried to get her attention to the matter of MSG. Perhaps this is one of the reasons we haven't gotten her attention? |
Jeannie
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 6:41 pm: | |
Look at Oprah's advertisers, too. Any diet drinks? Soda companies? Soups? Frozen diet dinners? How about drug companies?
On this topic, I wanted to mention that dh, the kids & I went to Macaroni Grill to get the make your own pasta. I asked if dh could get a plain grilled chicken breast. After "grilling" the waitress for awhile I found out that they don't have plain chicken breasts. The manager confirmed that all chicken breasts are marinated in an Italian dressing, which I'm sure has msg. Funny, my grandmother's from Italy and the only dressing she used was plain balsamic vinegar & oil with a little basil and oregano. The waitress did say he could get buffalo mozzarella on it.
Thanks for the encouragement, Deb. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 8:14 am: | |
Jeannie, you hit on the main reason why we can't get TV personalities to cover the MSG topic. Most of the advertising dollars to run their shows come from food companies. The celebs have little say as to who foots the bills...that's for the producers to decide, and $ is often the deciding factor.
Again, as I've said before, any of us can write a letter or article about MSG as the one in the latest issue of "Living Without" magazine and send it to several magazines from Prevention to Woman's Day. Yes, they get a lot of advertising money from food companies, too. But many still print controversial topics about health for their readers. Take a look at some of the health topics and articles and get out that pen!!!! It's still pretty powerful in this country. |
Karen M
| | Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 6:00 pm: | |
I just ran across ths web site tonight. I am 43 years old and after fighting years with having asthma attacks after eating MSG my rescue inhaler hadn't been helping me for the last few weeks. I have become scared and after having a SEVERE asthma attack the other night(I later asked for a pamplet and realised it had msg) from eating a Mcdonalds grilled chicken sandwich I decided to do further research on the MSG thing. It totally blows my mind as to what I have learned. Futhermore it amazes me that this is allow to go on by our government! I am convinced that many of my ailments in the past can be linked to the foods and additives I have been putting into my body. I just wanted to say that one: I am truly sad as to what my food choices will now be (as I too was raised on and love fast food) two: My head is swimming with all the info, I must take a rest and come back to this later and three: THANK YOU THANK YOU everyone that has taken the time to give your reseach, stories imput etc to help me better understand this! |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 11:28 am: | |
Hi Karen. It seems overwhelming at first. But allow yourself the time it takes to learn the important information you need to know. Read, Read, and Read. Make copies of the aliases for MSG list at our site, www.msgmyth.com. and take it with you when you food shop. Use it to clean out your cupboards. And go easy on yourself.It takes time to change your eating habits, so be patient with yourself. It may seem very limiting now as to what you can eat, but that changes as you learn to make better choices. We're here to help. |
P
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 5:29 pm: | |
Just found you today... I'm currently in search of remedies for lock jaw. Please continue to post. I find your posts to be quite helpful, and to some extent comforting. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 9:08 pm: | |
P,
MSG has been known to cause lockjaw, as is the case with one of the posters (named "youla", scroll about 3/5 down) on the forum linked below.
http://cheftalkcafe.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-4333.html |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 5:49 pm: | |
What is the homepage for this forum, Roy? I read the whole thing and it's eye-opening how MSG as a topic is growing. Most said they reacted to it. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 6:35 am: | |
Deb A.,
Just click on this link to the source.
http://cheftalkcafe.com/forums/ |
Valerie
| | Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 3:18 pm: | |
One of the first signs that I have ingested MSG is a severe tightening of my jaw. I didn't realize that this was so common. P, welcome to a world of relief as I found on this site. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 3:49 pm: | |
Thanks, Roy.
Yes, there are support groups for TMJ all over the country...they need to hear about the MSG connection!! |
sach
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 4:35 pm: | |
I have epilepsy and the slightest bit of msg can give me a seizure. I'll put it this way, don't go to dominos or pizza hut, because they'll say "not that we know of" when you ask about msg. That just means yes. I've been eating Papa Johns for years and never had a seizure. Just no pepperoni or sausage and your fine. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 7:11 pm: | |
Thanks for sharing your story, sach. I have heard others say they do okay with Papa Johns, too. Do you do okay with the veggie type of pizza then? We have a Papa Johns here, but I've never tried it. |
jim hayes
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 7:55 pm: | |
hey does anyone know know if monopotassium phoshate has msg in it. Monopotassium glutamate does. but i can"t find anything about the other. I have complex partial siezures and wonder if Gatorade has msg and can trigger my siezures. I have not had a gatorade for 12 days and not had a siezure since then. I also wonder if the trigger could be in the colouring or the sodium citrate? |
Jerry Story
| | Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 5:55 am: | |
About Gatorade:
There are websites that suggest that Gatorade contains aspartame. Aspartame is just as bad as MSG.
In any case the people who sell Gatorade don't give a rat's a** about your health and should not be trusted.
Better drinks: water, veggy juices. |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 9:07 am: | |
Jim, Gatorade contains sources of glutamate, the harmful component of MSG. Avoid anything that has the word citrate or citric acid. They both contain glutamate, which is created in the process of making them from corn.Monopotassium phosphate is to be avoided, also. Many of us who are MSG senstive react to it, also. If you would like, you can list the ingredients in Gatorade and we can tell you what is a substance that is to be avoided or that contains hidden sources of glutamate.The fact that you have not had seizures since avoiding Gatorade says a lot. |
jim hayes
| | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 8:17 pm: | |
Thanks Deb. Here are the ingredients of Gatorade; water, liquid sugar, glucose-fructose, citric acid, natural and artificial flavour, salt, sodium citrate, monopotassium phosphate, ester gum,and colour. I went two weeks without a siezure and then had one wednesday morning. That morning all I had eaten was two chocolate chip cookies. A year ago I went 54 and 32 days without a seizure. This tells me that it is almost definitely something too do with my food or lack of it (malnutrion) because often I only eat 1-1.5 times a day, drink a lot of pop or soda. A month ago at christmas I had two beers and a seizure on the same day I had each beer. Another point I have been pondering is an electrolyte imbalance because blood work, four months old show my potassium level to be high? |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 11:36 am: | |
Jim, these are to be avoided if you are MSG sensitive:
liquid sugar (that can mean corn syrup or beet sugar) both high in glutamate
glucose-fructose...both made from hydrolyzed corn today
citric acid...just posted info yesterday about citric acid...check "last day" or "last week"
natural flavor..usually is glutamate
ester gum...hydrolyzed plant product, contains glutamate
Beer and pop contain MSG, Jim
Were the cookies homemade or commercial? If the latter, check the ingredients. I cannot eat commercially prepared baked goods. They contain MSG. If homemade, I would question some of the ingredients, such as if shortening, milk chocolate chips were used, etc. Malted barley flour is high in glutamate and is added to most white flour to enhance flavor and prolong shelf life. |
Carolyn Adkins
| | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 12:22 pm: | |
A neighbor girl, 4 years old, visited McDonald's with her parents. After eating a hamburger, the child starting feeling she had bees all over her; she was hard to control, became disoriented; Her father had to physically hold her. The parents took the child to the ER who did not draw blood, but did take a urine specimen (??illegal substance), but urine came back normal. Could it have been MSG that causes the small girl to react that way? Just wondering. Anyone else have a similar experience with eating at McDonald's?? Thanks. |
Lisa Marie
| | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 2:13 pm: | |
I was looking for a way to respond to your post. Found this:
http://foodhaccp.com/msgboard.mv?parm_func=showmsg+parm_msgnum=1017790 |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 4:54 pm: | |
Carolyn, didn't see your post until now.
My answer is that this child's reaction could certainly be related to MSG ingestion. I took my little 4 year old granddaughter to MacDonald's years ago. We now know that she is MSG sensitive. Anyway, I ordered her a vanilla shake and fries. On the way home, she turned into someone I didn't know. She was mean and cranky and hyper. She had itchy skin and her cheeks turned bright red. Fortunately, her mom cooks MSG free meals, religiously.If she gets MSG by mistake, she gets the same way she did back then. Sure, it could be food allergies for your neighbor, but I can only relate to MSG reactions in children. It's a powerful neuro-stimulant/toxin, and children are affected quite quickly by it and many with neurological and behavioral reactions. |
Doug Burr
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 4:13 pm: | |
I own two restaurants in San Mateo, CA. Southwest Grill and Figaro's Fresh Pasta. We make all our own food from raw ingredients, even the salad dressings and soup, except our desserts and ketchup. I have a medium sensitivity to MSG (headaches, stomach aches and flushes)and I can eat everything there (obviously, they're my recipes) The only source of MSG in the restaurant is naturally occurring in parmesan cheese and our brand doesn't seem to affect me. Our tomato sauce starts with canned whole tomatoes. I'm sorry there aren't more restaurants that I can eat at (like mine) Questions? www.southwestgrill.com |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:02 pm: | |
Doug, thanks for sharing that with us. I wish you could open a branch here in Tri-Cities, WA! I wish there were more restaurant owners like you in this country. We sure need them...how about a chain?! |
Carol H
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 4:43 pm: | |
Doug, It is great to know you are out there! |
Doug Burr
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:07 pm: | |
Thanks for your messages. I wish there were more restaurants like mine, also. I eat alot of plain hamburgers when I go out. A chain? I wish, but I think two is enough for now. Thanks |
Stacey M
| | Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 4:26 pm: | |
I absolutely hate when a headaches comes on,and i have to think "what did I eat?"
I am fairly recent to figuring out that MSG was causing my headaches (about a year now) so I am learning the hard way with alot of restaurant foods. And sometimes i just plain forget! My headaches usually come on about 18-24 hours after the "guilty" food. I am sitting here in pain right now, and was trying to figure out the mystery food.
It was a Big Mac. I had no idea. The little cheeseburgers from McDonald's have never given me a problem...
grrrrrr |
MEMorrisNJ
| | Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 6:25 am: | |
Stacey - My reactions are digestive but I know when it is coming on and I hate it too! When I realize I am starting to react to something, I use this time to catch up with my food/mood diary and plan future meals. It helps me psychologically -- enables me to regain control and forgive myself for when I just "plain forget"! I also start drinking more water and try to get some exercise in hopes to flush it out. Restaurant food is close to impossible for me. |
sbornhorn
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 8:45 am: | |
I came across this web site looking for answers. My 11yr old daughter is having some reaction to something in resturants. she has had skin test and no luck. She gets severly sick vomit/etc. rash hives itching. I'm not sure where to go now. She is scared to eat out. Does anyone have any suggestions. thanks |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 8:57 am: | |
Her symptoms are very typical of MSG toxicity. You need to read all that you can and learn to identify its hidden sources on food labels. Go to www.msgmyth.com for info (our helpful book can be ordered there) and a list of aliases for free glutamate, the harmful component in MSG. www.msgtruth.org and www.truthinlabeling.org are very helpful, too. It takes shopping for fresh fruits, vegetables, meats and making dishes and treats from scratch. Drugs and medications will only mask the condition. This is a growing epidemic among our children. |
Jaclyn
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 8:21 pm: | |
Hi everyone. I am twenty years old and have always had a "sensitive" stomach. Whenever I go out to eat, (and I am in college, so thats a lot) I seem to get stomachaches and very naseuous. I just stumbled upon the whole MSG thing and dont know a whole lot about it. So this may be a dumb question, but my friends and I tend to eat out at Applebees and Olive Garden a lot. Does anyone know if these places contain a lot of MSG? And maybe where I can find ingredients listings and places where I can do a little research. Thanks everyone! |
Jaclyn
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 8:23 pm: | |
Oh and one other thing. I am severly hypoglycemic, does that have anything to do with it? Again thanks for you time. |
Debbey
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 8:41 am: | |
Jaclyn-I am new at the MSG thing (these guys are wonderful) but have been severely hypoglycemic for 17 years. Being hypoglycemic I poisoned my system for years using nutrasweet/diet cokes/ice cream-my reaction was hard and fast. There is research that it is even more dangerous if your blood sugar level drops (do you test it?)because it allows MSG to cross the brain-blood barrier easier -go to www.truthinlabeling.com. I have learned to eat 8 times a day without MSG and will help you. p.s. I cannot eat in a resturant-in an emergency I will eat 3 eggs over well (scrambled tends to be in a pour carton with MSG) |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 3:29 pm: | |
Applebees uses a LOT of MSG in their dishes. There's very little I can eat at Olive Garden, also. I have had their plain fettucine on occasion, but usually will opt for eating at home. Sorry. Restaurants rely heavily on prepared sauces, dressings, marinades, and seasoning salts that contain MSG. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 5:08 pm: | |
Papa Murphy's is MSG Free in all their ingredients, I have worked with them for 7 years and all of their ingredients are fresh and contain no MSG |
Jerry Story
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 8:48 pm: | |
There is no evidence from their website that their food does not contain MSG.
http://www.papamurphys.com/
All their foods are on my list of forbidden foods. Especially cheese, which seems to be among their more important foods.
Their foods are conventional. Nothing to indicate that they are in the nutrition business. For example, no veggy juices.
For some noMSGers perhaps the damage is temporary (a headache or somesuch thing that they can recover from). I don't mean to belittle temporary damage but for me the damage is permanent and accumulative. If you had ALS, would you bet your motor neurons that some restaurant is safe just because some anonymous person says it is? There is nothing to gain by such a bet and everything to lose by such a bet.
I have 3 rules about restaurants:
1. All restaurants are guilty until proved innocent.
2. I am not interested in any evidence that they are innocent.
3. If I had evidence that a restaurant is innocent, I would reject the evidence.
I am totally prejudiced against all restaurants. |
Roy Piwovar
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 8:38 pm: | |
Anonymous,
Have you ever read the ingredients lists of what you sell? Even pizza parlors that claim to use no MSG in their pepperoni and sausage toppings, such as the one linked below, typically include it under many hidden names.
http://www.pizzapi.net/ingredients.htm |
Nancy Oliver
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 1:33 am: | |
Thank you Debby a million times over for all the hard work that you do educating people. Who knows how many lives you have saved, mine included. I suffered for years with headaches so bad that I literally felt like I was at deaths door. MRI's showed nothing abnormal. It wasn't until I eliminated all the poisons that you have mentioned that I remain headache free. You truly deserve a Nobel Prize! |
Deb A.
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 12:33 pm: | |
Nancy, you certainly have made my day...my week! I can't tell you how happy it makes me feel when I know someone no longer suggers from bad headaches due to the information that we have shared. I can relate to the pain caused by constant MSG induced headaches...21 years worth! Keep spreading the word and and your story...so many others are still suffering needlessly. Thanks! |
Debbey
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 12:23 pm: | |
do not believe in safe restaurants
cheese has msg
crab legs boiled were sprayed to make them "more red" got sick
all prepackaged scrambled eggs at rest have MSG
have not found any salad dressings I do not react to
produce is sprayed to preserve
produce from California is msg sprayed
most breads have hydrogenized protein
splenda is in so much
most ice teas are processed
places do not mean to lie they just do not know the truth
and it goes on and on
fresh broccolli was sprayed
oranges are not really that orange |
Mommalin
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 8:26 am: | |
Does anyone know if Macaroni Grill uses MSG in any of their food? My husband and I ate there last night for our anniversary and I woke up at 4:00 with an "MSG Migraine". |
Pam E.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 10:25 am: | |
I have not tried Ramano's Macaroni Grill, yet. It is a chain restaurant. I am sure there are a lot of dishes that will cause problems. I do eat at Olive Garden on occasion and do okay with the Ravioli and the Fettuccine, and the salad is good. I know I can not have the chicken dishes (must be broth injected). I think we all have to experiment if we want to enjoy an evening out once in a while. What did you have at Macaroni Grill? I will make sure to avoid it. Also their recipes change, so we may be able to have something one time and the next time it throws us for a loop! Anyway, I hope you feel better soon!
Pam E. |
Katie22
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 12:54 pm: | |
I have a question does anyone know if Wish-Bone Italian Dressing has msg in it? I looked over the ingrediants and it didnt mention it, but nowdays you never know. |
Roy Piwovar
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 8:29 pm: | |
Katie22,
With "spices" and "natural flavors (soy)" on the label, Wish-Bone Italian Dressing probably does have free glutamate in it. In addition, the lemon juice concentrate probably contains sulfites, which many are also sensitive to.
http://www.wish-bone.com/dressing.asp?kind=ov&dressing=italian |
Debbey
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 12:04 pm: | |
Katie22, I cannot eat wish-bone dressing-I react immediately to anything with traces of MSG or nutrasweet |
Katie22
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 2:58 pm: | |
Since Wishbone Italian Dressing is really bad does anyone else know a Italian dressing that is good? I've recently started a diet and am eating more chicken but this MSG just snuck up on me and I really like marinating my chicken in Italian dressing any help would be great. |
Lisa Marie
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 5:50 am: | |
Katie, I use Paul Newman ORIGINAL, ORIGINAL ONLY, on occasion, without reaction. BUT, the best thing to do is make your own! Use 1/4 c. vinegar, to 3/4c. olive oil. (i.e.-1 part vinegar to 3 parts oil) Add a teaspoon of sugar or honey, a little salt, and mix well. It tastes better than the bought stuff anyway. |
Katie22
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 8:35 am: | |
Hmmm sounds good next time I marinate my chicken I'll try that. Thanks |
Deb A.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 12:42 pm: | |
Yes, that's what I do sometimes. I also add a little garlic and oregano to the dressing/marinade. A great chicken marinade is in the book....I think it's called New York style marinated chicken....we half the recipe, it makes so much. But it is so good. You can either grill, fry, or roast the chicken. |
garybenton@yahoo.com
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 1:14 pm: | |
My wife and I ate at Thai Spice in Kennewick 7-8-07. They said they add "knol" or something like that to the curry and phad thai. Perhaps they add it to the other foods also. They showed me some. It's granular and kind of yellow in color. They said it also comes in cubes or granules, and it makes foods taste a LOT better. We re-ordered our curries and we both felt a lot better afterwards than we have felt after previous meals there.
I'm thinking they used the granule version of Knorr boullion cubes. We love Thai food and the green curry I had without the Knorr granules tasted great. It was nice to not be a zombie afterwards and to get a good night's sleep.
Here's something I found on the web:
"You can also find bouillon in granular form. The most common one found in Singapore's supermarkets is from Maggi. Knorr is another familiar brand."
http://www.chinese-soups-recipes.com/soup-stocks.html
So Thai Spice may be relatively safe if one asks that they don't put in the "knoll grain" as they called it. The waitress pronounced it "kahnoll", kind of like canola (as in oil) but without the "a" on the end. They use some oyster or fish sauce, and that may have a little MSG in it, but from my experience, leaving out the Knorr makes it relatively safe for me. Of course, one should also ask that soy sauce not be used (it usually isn't in curries), and it's always good to ask that they don't use MSG.
In case anyone's interested, my wife and I just came out with a cookbook that's MSG-free, gluten-free and whole-foods plant-based. To see a preview, go to http://bentonhealthpromotions.com |
Jerry Story
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 5:54 am: | |
From Dr. Mercola:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/07/31/13-things-your-waiter-won-t-tell-you.aspx?source=nl
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3. When customers make personal attacks, adulterating food or drink is a convenient way for servers to exact covert vengeance. Waiters can and do spit in people's food.
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Amanda S.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 6:34 am: | |
Does anyone know anything about Brothers All Natural products? Someone gave some snack size bags of their freeze dried fruit to one of my coworkers and I'm curious if they might be a good alternative to raw fruits when they go out of season. |
Roy Piwovar
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 8:00 pm: | |
They claim to have no additives of any kind.
http://www.brothersallnatural.com/apple/home.htm |
Deb A.
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 11:53 am: | |
They are yummy! Have them in my pantry and the grandkids love them, too....great for school lunches. |
Faith
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| | Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 2:04 pm: | |
All of your info here has been so helpful. I have 2 small children who are very sensitive to MSG, and possibly other chemicals. We thought my daughter had a horrible case of gerd, but turns out it was so much more. After 2 years of screaming fits, no sleep, and just not knowing how my child could go from normal to crazed in 5 minutes, we had my son 17 months after my daughter was born. Once Jack started eating table food we started noticing he was not sleeping either. The really bad nights they were both up just crying or flipping and flopping around. It finally occured to me maybe it was MSG. I have 4 other children who can eat anything! My mom was sensitive to MSG for a spell in her late 20's that gave her anxiety attacks. Thus how the thought came to me. ANyways, now that you know my life story, I wanted to know if anyone had a list that might have all the hidden places to look for MSG and any other things I should be looking out for. Any help or direction would be so helpful!
Thanks,
Faith |
Deb A.
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| | Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 4:04 pm: | |
Faith, go to our home page at www.msgmyth.com, and check the menu at the left. You will be able to find a list of the hidden sources of glutamate, the harmful component of MSG. Our survival guide/cookbook is also available there. Thank you for sharing your story....we're so happy that you found us and what you suspect is the answer to your children's symptoms. I can relate to what you have gone through with your little ones. Other very helpful sites are www.msgtruth.org and www.truthinlabeling.org. |
Faith
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| | Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 6:25 pm: | |
Thank you so much Deb for such a quick response! As we are changing their diet we are seeing wonderful things (like sleep). I have not slept through the night in over 3 years!(because of babies) I am hoping to find the answers that will make my whole family healthier. |
EmilyS
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| | Posted on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 2:23 pm: | |
Welcome to the group Faith, we're glad you're here! |
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