| Author | Message | ||
| Linda S. |
Last night made turkey soup for the family..only boiled turkey leftovers for 10 minutes to avoid making a glute soup, used organic carrots and basmati rice, nonorganic parsnips and an onion. While brushing my teeth before bed (Pepsodent original, ran out of Toms of Maine) I experienced a numbness in the pelvic area. Went to lie down and the numbness spread over every inch of my body. It was numbness combined with a burning, searing sensation similar to what I experienced across my chest prior to having a seizure in December. My body felt like it was on fire, yet my husband said I felt cold. The burning passed, and then I experienced uncontrolled shivering. This systemic reaction lasted over an hour. I then started having sharp, gas-like pains in my chest and across my back. I thought I was checking out. Feel horrible this morning, shaky, cold, pale, and the left side of my face seems swollen. (All day yesterday, the left side of my body hurt or had spasm.) I don't know what to do. This was even scarier than the seizure in December because I was conscious the whole time. Thank you in advance for any advice, and please forgive the length of this post. | ||
| Deb A. |
I have had bad reactions to organic and non organic carrots that I have eaten. I get the same report over and over from others. Grimmway Brothers is the largest producer of carrots in the U.S. and they use AuxiGro spray on their crop...30% glutamate. Many organic growers also use this product, because they consider it to be "natural". If the roast turkey gave you no problem, the soup shouldn't, unless you boiled it too hard...I add the cooked meat to the pot and let it warm up to the desired heat only. We also have had reports of reactions to root vegetables, many of which are treated with AuxiGro, like most Idaho potatoes. I am so sorry to hear about what you went through. I hope you are doing better today. | ||
| Linda S. |
Deb, Thank you for your concern. Anything is better than how I felt last night. I checked the bag of carrots, and they are Grimmway Brothers! I am going to call them and complain. I already called Chesebrough-Ponds this a.m. to get the inactive ingredients in Pepsodent. They refused to release supposedly proprietary info, although the woman on the phone did tell me that it contained sorbitol after I said choosing not to list all ingredients for chemically sensitive consumers bordered on irresponsible. Also, what did you mean by boiling too hard? I cooked everything (meat included) for about 10 minutes at a rolling boil. Thanks, Linda | ||
| Jennifer |
Deb, I use Organic Bunny Luv carrots made by Grimmway Farms. When I called them they said they don't use it. But, the lady had to ask someone else. Is Grimmway Farms the same as Grimmway Brothers? Because they sound the same. If so she must be telling me a fib. I bought three bags, so I could make a carrot cake. Not good if they are the bad ones. | ||
| Jennifer |
Deb, PS Some cake decorators put sweet potatoes in their carrot cake, because it looks just like carrots. Plus, it gives a more sweet flavor. I've never tried it, but maybe that's what I'll make myself instead of carrot cake. I'm trying to find and create healthy recipes, so I can start decorating again. | ||
| Deb A. |
Jennifer, it depends on who you talk to....some will say anything because they don't want to do the research. The only people who would know what is sprayed on crops are the farmers and people they hire to spray. | ||
| Deb A. |
Rolling boils are not good...that is what they do to hydrolyze protein...break it down into the amino acids, one of which is glutamic acid. They also add acids or bases...so we can create hydrolysis in the kitchen. As for Pepsodent, I cannot tolerate any toothpaste for long....I always go back to the baking soda....it can be mixed with plain stevia powder and peppermint oil...haven't tried that yet, but am used to the plain soda. Sprinkle on a damp brush. It takes getting used to, but a little goes a long way, and my teeth feel clean, even when I wake in the morning..no more fur coats....caused by the junk in toothpaste. It's good to avoid all artificial sweeteners. | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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More on toothpaste additives: http://www.drbunn.com/toothpaste.htm | ||
| Pat Shoffner
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Linda S - My husband and I both had a serious reaction ( not as bad as yours though ) after eating a picnic lunch. I went back and looked at everything that I had packed. It turned out to be the carrots - from Calif. We are so afraid of them now that I don't even buy them anymore. Why take the chance ? Good idea about sweet potatoes. | ||
| Donna |
I have been looking for something I read a while ago and now can't seem to find where I read it. It was about chiropractic ajustments not holding or comming out of alignment. I have a rib that continues to come out of place and my chiropractor says my ligaments are loose and not holding my adjustments. Is this a MSG problem? | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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Donna, It may very well be MSG related. http://www.emedicine.com/pmr/byname/mechanical-low-back-pain.htm | ||
| Deb A. |
MSG effects nerves, which effect muscles, which can pull bones out of alignment. Look up the story of Robert Cupp in our book, or it may be in the archives (keyword search at the left). | ||
| Leni |
I change the environment and came to US from Europe, where I was used to cook myself very healthy. Now Im attending school cafeteria kind of puzzled. I though I had a stiff neck, then I had terrible headaches, hot and cold flush, vommiting, blurred vision, dizziness, etc. They thought Im in stress or have a brain tumor or vertigo, I wasnt. Another doctor discovered I had pituary gland inflamation. I got better after a month. Now it came back...I wonder can this be the MSG attacking me??? If I wont be able to cook for myself as well as shop, will it be better to return back to Europe and cook myself, or will I get used to it? It paralyzes me from my school work and makes me hyperactive on the other hand. I have never though, Ill be so desperate as now... Thank you very much for your suggestions. | ||
| Deb A. |
Leni, I feel so badly that you are experiencing the results of our dangerous and MSG laden fast foods and processed foods. Is there any way that you could pay someone to use their kitchen? One student who is also MSG sensitive bought a microwave oven, a small apartment size refrigerator and a hot plate. You might bring the problem up before a school counselor and see what they can do to help you. If you do decide to leave, be aware that many countries are now using more and more MSG in their processed foods. Please keep us posted. I have no doubt that you are suffering MSG toxicity. Your reactions are classic. If you want a book, please contact me at avenger@msgmyth.com. I'll help you get one. | ||
| mike Z
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I had chicken rice soup from a chinese resturaunt last week. 20 minutes after eating I got a single hive on my stomach. A few minutes after that I felt a distinct heavy heart beat. After that, a huge adrenalin surge that caused my heart to beat out of my chest for about 15 seconds. I thought I was having a heart attack. It's been about 3 days now, and I still have what I'll call panic attacks that have been subsiding each day, as well as gas pains and upset stomach/loss of appetite. | ||
| Deb A. |
Mike, please be more careful! And please learn all you can about the hidden forms of MSG lurking in most processed and restaurant foods. Soups are the worst, and they have no trouble reaching the bloodstream quickly, meaning a fast reaction. You are most likely going to react more and more easily, so it's important that you learn what to avoid....and most Chinese foods are just the beginning. I hope you are feeling better. | ||
| tara carpenter
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I just stumbled onto this website today and I hope that this is the answer to why I feel so badly. I am very young but feel horrible! I have noticed that I get the worse when dieting. I belive that it is due to all of the "diet" foods I eat, like diet soda. Some of the symptons I have is dizziness, and horrible pressure in my neck. I have even tried the chiropractor and a massage to get rid of the pressure/pain in my neck. I am going to try to follow the 3 day plan to go without msg. I would anybody's input! thank you!! | ||
| Deb A. |
Tara, I am all too familiar with that terrible pressure in the neck you are talking about. Mine seemed to be worse in the right back side. Sounds like you are another in the growing number of MSG victims. Please let us know how you are doing, okay? | ||
| tara carpenter |
yes that is my worse side, the right side. That is odd. I just can't belive that MSG is legal. I am going to get MSG cookbook to help me along the way thanks for the reply! | ||
| tara carpenter |
what are some foods that really trigger msg symptons? | ||
| Deb A. |
The list here would be be too long to type, but let me say that the book goes into detail. Most restaurant foods and processed foods contain some form of MSG. So concentrate on shopping the perimeter of the grocery store for fresh produce and meat. It's best to eat brown rice unless you thoroughly rinse off the coating on white rice since it is a source of glutamate, the harmful component of MSG. Make breads and baked goods with whole wheat flour or white flour that does not contain malted barley flour, another source of glutamate. Even toothpaste, gum, soda pop, contain glutamate. I brush my teeth with baking soda. Drink organic whole milk and use real butter that is made of cream and salt only. Vitamins and other pills contain glutamate sources in their fillers, binders, and coatings. Gel caps themselves are hydrolyed protein, whether animal or vegetable. Just keep reading and learning and you will know what is safe to eat. | ||
| Five |
Keep in mind that the reaction to tyramines, and to phenols is exactly the same as to MSG. This make me think that there is something else going on here. My reaction came about a year after I started making my own homemade bread from organic wheat berries which I ground to flour in my own grinders. And having them every morning for breakfast. Wheat contains phytates which binds minerals and keeps them from being absorbed. There is now a new enzyme on the market. PHYTASE!! I sent for some. If it helps, I will sure let you all know. I used to eat buckwheat pancakes for breakfast almost every day. Now I have a reaction to buckwheat.  | ||
| Carol H |
Alternate the flours you use to prevent new allergies. |
