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Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 8:39 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, for the past 5 years I have been battling explosive diarrhea and other stomach ailments. Seen some of the top specialists in the field - spent loads of money. No answers. Negative for Chrone's etc etc etc.

I thought lactose and eggs might be the problems so I stayed away from them. I also cut out soft drinks as they seemed to may have been involved.

Till I had the lactose test which injects you with insane amounts of lactose - and no reaction.

Yesterday I ate at KFC and got sick in the afternoon. Today I ate KFC leftovers and likewise problems. So, I did a little search on KFC problems and what popped up - MSG.

I began to read and make mental connections against times when I know I had a direct food - illness reaction. A couple weeks ago it was Top Ramen (2 bags.) A light has exploded over my head. The mystery item that may be the culprit is MSG.

Now, soft drinks have made me sick as well. So, I was wondering if the new wonderful Splenda might also be a cause of my problems.

NOW my question: I was wondering does Splenda have MSG cause I see them linked together in many discussions but never a clear statement that Splenda has MSG. The linkage may be that they just cause the same effects. I was wondering if anyone could clarify this for me.
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 1:16 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


The list linked below shows the ingredients to watch out for related to MSG. It does not include Splenda, but that is not an endorsement.

Regarding soft drinks, the primary culprit would be aspartame (nutrasweet).
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Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 4:52 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anonymous, your problem is probably all corn derivatives and not just MSG. You see, every ingredient in soft drinks are made from corn except the water. Splenda is not made from corn but travels with a corn carrier (maltodextrin) so that it is much more corn by volume than it is Splenda. The reason that I suspect corn is that you mention eggs and dairy as possible culprits but that you have no trouble with lactose. Eggs and dairy contain corn derivatives. I spent most of my adult life avoiding eggs, dairy, alcohol, pork, vinegar, and things with HFCS and still had horrible stomach cramps and chronic diarrhea. The common denominator in all of these things is corn.

Eggs are from chickens fed corn and can also become contanimated during washing (the shells are porous and all commercial cleaning products contain corn derivatives - they can even be coated with corn oil to replace the natural protective coating that is washed away in processing). Try eating organic free range eggs from a local farmer you can question and see if you still react. Dairy is "enriched" with synthetic vitamin D which is grown on a corn medium and the carrier (keeps it suspended in the milk) for the vitamin is corn oil (this includes organic dairy). Try raw milk from pastured cows or goats and I bet $100 you won't react. All enriched products contain corn which includes all breads, crackers, cereals, cakes, cookies, etc. made with enriched flour. Try making quickbread using unenriched flour and baking soda and I bet you won't react.

If you like soft drinks, try drinking Reed's Premium Ginger Ale (there are two kinds of Reed's - get the one with the green label) and I bet you won't react. It is the only one I know of on the market that doesn't contain corn. Fast food is full of corn and soy. KFC is the worst possible thing for someone sensitive to corn derivatives or allergic to corn or whatever we are. I don't think they have a single thing in the building that isn't loaded with corn (and I am including the salt and packets of condiments and straws).

Try the test diet (on the main page under "Test yourself for MSG sensitivity") for a couple of weeks and you will be amazed. One caution: don't use salad greens that are prewashed and bagged. Try to buy produce from the farmers market when possible and organic from the produce section if not. This is the simplest and cleanest diet that can be imagined to test how you feel with no food additives present. Once you ascertain that food additives are your problem, you can start learning how to prepare wonderful, delicious meals for yourself. Deb's book is a great starting point - there is a link to buy it on the front page as well.

This lifestyle is a little more trouble, but frankly, I would go to much greater lengths to avoid the isolation and embarrassment caused by the digestive issues I suffered with for so long. Since discovering that corn allergy was my problem, I finally know what it's like to be spontaneous and free. We don't have many "dining out" choices, but we eat much better than we used to. Everything tastes better and our fresh food is much tastier than any processed or frozen or fast food ever was. Also, I am feel better now than I have in 20 years.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 4:23 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi anonymous, just a side note. I have never been diagnosed with IBS, and really refuse to look into it further, as I believe it is largely a useless diagnosis in itself. But I HAD the same symptoms as you. They seemingly came on slowly with me developing the diarrhea to only certain food items, and then absolutely ANYTHING that is processed. So all those corn derivatives that kristy spoke of, I react to, but so far I can have regular cooked corn (i.e. corn on the cob). But not cornstarch, cornmeal, or any of those other things like maltodextrin... and stuff like that.
My piece of advice: it can be a very emotional and frightening experience to find out that foods you have come to rely on in your life can no longer be there, and in fact make you sick. Know that you are not alone in this. Someone I believe on this site, has said that we all have our msg/additive tolerance. I hit mine within the past few years. There is life after this discovery, and it is possible to eat food that is clean from all the additives, but it will take time to find you way :-) The people on this site are an excellent resource... take care, Star
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Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 9:31 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think this story just confirms the importance of eating NATURAL foods and food products and avoiding processed and man-made "food products". I went to a Natural Foods tradeshow in LA recently, and I was happy to see the benefits of natural food seem to be getting out to more and more people.
Great site by the way, and just say NO to msg and other man-made food chemicals!

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