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LisaS
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Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 7:44 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello all,

I've known our 12 yo son is MSG sensitive for a while but not to the depth and extent that I'm realizing. He originally was diagnosed with mood disorder NOS and anxiety disorder, which got quite extreme, and we treated it with a medicine that triggered adrenal fatigue, which complicated the whole issue. Now I'm wondering how much of it was MSG sensitivity all along. (Interestingly, I found an article that said "kindling" - which is where a mental disorder pathway is entrenched such that the mental disorder (in his case, extreme anxiety after a car accident) happens without the trigger - seems to be linked to oversensitizing the glutamate receptors in the brain...that's when everything started clicking into place for me!)

Anyway, my question is, how much have you heard about glutamates being related to depression, emotional volatility, and anxiety?

(Off topic - is there a way I can get a user name and then get notifications of replies to messges?)

Glad to find this board. Thanks!

Lisa S
Jennifer
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Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 7:09 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Lisa,

Glutamates absolutely caused depression, emotional volatility and anxiety in me, to a rather extreme extent....so that's at least one person. I'm sure many people here have had the same thing happen.

Don't know about the message board question....

Jennifer
LisaS
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Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 9:12 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, Jennifer!
kristy
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Posted on Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 3:35 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi LisaS, I had anxiety as part of my symptoms as well but I didn't really figure that out until it started disappearing. I remember at my worst I was anxious in the extreme if I had to drive somewhere unfamiliar. I would have my husband write detailed directions including landmarks but even with those and a navigator it would make me nauseous with anxiety. When younger, I drove all over with only the vaguest idea of directions - I was quite adventurous then so anxiety when driving only started in the last couple of years. Now that I have been fga free for about 7 months I can already see a vast improvement. I am going places after just glancing at a map and that anxiety is just gone.

My daughter was suffering great anxiety before we "got clean" and even had nightmares. She never really talked about it before (except when she had a nightmare bad enough that she couldn't get back to sleep without help) but I knew she was terribly afraid of the dark. Once the anxiety and nightmares started going away she confided in me just how horrible it had been. We are so relieved to have those symptoms fade. She has just blossomed since we got off msg and fga.
Deb A.
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Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 9:54 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LisaS, I can assure you that a relatively large number of the thousands of people I have spoken with over the years have suffered anxiety, depression, and other related neurological disorders due to MSG toxicity. Children are especially sensitive to the ever growing amount of free glutamic acid in their foods...even being effected before birth via the placenta and the processed foods the mother ate..look at the incredible increase in ADD and autism.
Anonymous
 
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Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 5:05 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is my first post here and Im glad I found this board. Im highly gluten sensitive and 95% of the time eat really well (organic). However today I had a chicken caesar salad from a restaurant and was totally unaware how high the level of msg can be in them. Im also bipolar with panic/anxiety issues that I can keep in check with proper nutrition.

But at the moment Im battling anxiety and feeling lousy because of my poor food choice. Let me tell you the connection between mood disorders and msg is massive, there is no doubt about it.
ali
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Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 10:48 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Anonymous. I'm so sorry to hear you are suffering. I know first hand that the connection between mood and msg is strong. I see that in myself but more so in my youngest child. The anxiety she suffers when "poisoned" is off the scale. It renders her quite literally speechless. She just cant form words properly and seems very confused. I find the quickest help I can give her is to bath her in Epsom Salts as it quickly restores her magnesium levels. Its by no means a cure for her but it certainly gives her quick relief form her more obvious distress.
I hope you are soon feeling better. It may be a good idea to see the list of hidden msg on this site. I always have a list in my purse for quick reference. Id highly recommend the book you can buy on this site too. Its a wealth of information, clearly written and it has some great recipes and a substitution list for ingredients.
LisaS
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 8:01 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The connection is huge. I would highly suggest you start eliminating hidden sources as well.

My son has the mood/glutamate connection; for me it is headaches/migraines for the most part. We have found that the mood issues are not just the acute reaction (2-4 days) but have a chronic reaction that looks entirely different (more fatigue and depression, less angst) and lasts about two weeks.

You will not realize how big an impact it is having on you until you start digging deeper into sources. They are everywhere, people don't realize it. Here are some links:
http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html
http://stroyan.net/lisasblog/category/nutrition/excitotoxins/
Deb A.
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 9:20 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lisa, we will link your site to ours...it's wonderful...we need more and more such sites. Thank you so much for your added voice!
ali
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2012 - 10:31 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi again Anonymous. I just remembered something that may help. When i first went MSG free i suffered a very heavy uncharacteristic (for me) bought of depression. Crying fits, fatigue, and just a the general living in a black cloud feeling. It lasted about 2-3 weeks. I think in retrospect it was withdrawel from either msg or the myriad of other additives,preservitives i excluded. I pretty much went from processed foods to a whole food diet in a day! It can be shock to the system. A good shock, but a shock none the less. Maybe that your exasperated symptoms are in fact due to withdrawel and my subside. Just my take on what happened to me.

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