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Posted on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 2:12 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Have had leaky gut for three years, becoming more and more intolerant to foods. After recent small stomach bug tried eating chicken broth, when this didn't help tried gelatine. After which couldn't sleep, felt very charged and got even more tired.i have no quality of life and cannot cope much longer. I think all I can eat is tinned salmon and maybe small amount of cucumber, bit unsure about eggs. Any help ideas I would really appreciate as I see no way out. I tried the rpah elimination diet but this didn't help,intolerant to most foods on it.doctors are useless in uk as they have just diagnosed leaky ibs and non f them believe in leaky gut.please help I am so desperate
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Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 9:05 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi anon,

Many people on these boards have experienced leaky gut. If you search for leaky gut on here you will find lots of info. I've seen several people with leaky gut say that they believe soy was largely responsible for damaging their digestive system. And of course there's MSG. What blows my mind about leaky gut remedies is that gelatin is often recommended. According to my research, gelatin is highly processed and contains free glutamate (MSG), so it would definitely be at the top of our "do not consume" list. Chicken broth is also very dangerous (unless made from scratch), because they almost always contain high levels of MSG (disguised as "natural flavor," "natural chicken flavor," "broth," "yeast extract," "spices," etc).

I hope you find some healing on this message board!!
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Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 8:48 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thank you for your reply. I have had a quick search but found little to help.

If anyone can suggest any safe foods to try or supplements that would be great
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Posted on Friday, October 17, 2014 - 10:36 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


The great thing to know about leaky gut is that many of the food sensitivities are just temporary. Of course you'll still want to avoid processed foods and MSG after you have healed, but at that point you'll also have a much wider variety of foods introduced back into your diet such as fruits, vegetables, and other healthy stuff! People with leaky gut react to just about everything, because the food ends up floating around in their system outside of the digestive tract. So it's no wonder that the immune system thinks there's some kind of intruder... the food is not where it's meant to be inside your body.

What are you eating right now? Canned salmon and cucumber? Anything else? The salmon should read: salmon, water, and salt. Nothing else should be added - if "broth," "spices," "natural flavor," or anything else is on the list then it is MSG. I eat canned salmon from time to time and always look for wild caught. This ensures that the fish were exposed to less toxins as farmed fish eat unhealthy GMO (corn, soy, etc) feed. I've seen people on this message board react to farmed fish so I avoid it most of the time.

Do you drink anything besides water? Do you take any supplements? Are you on any medications? The more info you can provide us with, the better.

Study and print out the list of hidden forms of MSG:

Make sure none of those things are finding their way into your diet.

I searched for "leaky gut" on the message boards and got 109 different threads. Lots of great info and insight. Here is just one person's post regarding leaky gut:

kristy said:

Deb, I have to agree with you. My kids and I are supposedly allergic to corn and soy, but I believe that the corn and soy in our food supply now is not really food anymore. The more I read, the more I believe that GMOs are the root of the problem. I don't know if you guys realize this, but all the additives we have trouble with are made from GMO corn (or if they are not made from it, they are made using it). The process of genetically modifying a food causes a lot of collateral damage that the bioengineers don't fully understand. When Bt corn was accidentally used to make corn chips, it caused horrible allergic reactions immediately, some multiple chemical sensitivity for life, and in some people permanent endocryne damage. That same corn is now used to make additives that go into every food product on the shelves.

The scratch tests are notoriously inaccurate. Many people on the avoiding corn forum tested negative for corn allergy, but all react to even tiny traces of it. My dentist was amazed today to watch my face redden and heat up in front of her eyes just because she used mint floss in my mouth.

The bottom line: the top allergens are almost always contaminated with GMO corn. All milk (besides raw) is fortified using GMO corn, tomatoes, potatoes, bananas are gassed with ethanol made from GMO corn (this is why some people can only tolerate underripe bananas - the ripe ones were gassed to ripen them), mushrooms are grown in a corn medium, beef is treated with lactic acid (used to be citric acid) during processing (this is even allowed on organic meat), eggs are almost impossible to find uncontaminated by the GMO corn feed or cleaning process, wheat is fortified with GMO corn, L-glutamine is made with GMO corn (as are all medicines). The reason GMO corn and GMO soybeans are not sold in the produce section raw is precisely because of increased ALLERGIC REACTIONS.

Now, I ask you....are we really allergic or to all these things or... does our body just react to the toxins inside them exactly the way it is supposed to react to toxins? Are we particularly sensitive to fga or do we just have an increased detection system for these particularly toxic food additives? If you ask me, GMO corn additives of every kind are really bad news, but fga-type additives are particularly toxic because they are neurotoxins. It is no wonder that we can't tolerate them. I find it surprising that anyone CAN tolerate them.

I believe that candida overgrowth and leaky gut are real "modern" afflictions. I don't believe you can cure them by taking supplements or herbal remedies that often include the very thing that caused the problem in the first place. It has been proven that bacteria from GMO corn and soy populate our gut and reproduce. This is essentially a pest control factory forming in our digestive system. I believe that is the ultimate cause of all these gut imbalances and diseases. I think the only way to cure these conditions is to avoid adding to the problem by not ingesting any food additives. Try to repopulate the gut with good bacteria in hopes they can kill off the bad guys. Add as many healing foods as possible to the diet. Avoid stimulants, drugs, alcohol, supplements, sugar, grains, starchy veggies until the digestive system is healed.

In time, after a body heals, we should be able to eat anything that is a wholesome food. I can already eat selected dairy again (I only eat dairy that isn't "fortified") and I couldn't tolerate dairy at all in the beginning. We tolerate eggs just fine once we found a corn-free source. We no longer react to meat or bone broths (if cooked carefully, I still would never attempt to eat 12 hour broth) and all three of us did in the beginning. I think it is very important that we no longer use water treated with citric acid to cook the broth and we avoid meat that is coated in citric acid. Both of those things contribute to the glutamate load of broth enormously. (It is exactly like adding lemon or tomato or vinegar to meat when it is cooking, but magnified)

When someone asks me about my "special dietary requirements", I just tell them that I have very strict dietary requirements: I can only eat food. Wouldn't it be nice if that was all that was allowed to sell at grocery stores? I read an article written in 1999 that told of Monsanto's plan to sneak GMOs into the food supply until it was in everything. It worked. Right now the only things that don't have GMOs are raw milk and organic produce and meat butchered in a non-USDA certified processing plant (like a local farmer). Did you happen to notice that there are several farm bills being proposed that would severely hamper the ability of farmers to offer these products for sale to the public? Do me a favor: when you hear the words "food safety" treat anything that follows with complete suspicion. Decide which is safer: food that comes from a farm that you can visit while it is operating or a CAFO (chicken factory, feed lot) which doesn't even allow cameras on the property. That is what this guise of "food safety" is for: If consumers had the choice, they would always choose the purest, safest, healthiest food. These bills are designed to make it impossible for small farms to stay in business so we have no choice but the GMO, additive laden crap pseudo-food that Big Agra produces. I think what most people need to understand, it is not just inferior, it is killing us.

Sorry to go off on a rant, but it seems like no one is paying any attention to this and it is really important for the health of our children. If you think I sound like a conspiracy nut, you can do your own research. You can read all the facts and see what it means to you. You'll come to the same conclusions that I have. (take a look at the right panel to see gov. ties to Monsanto)


You can read the rest of her posts and the full thread here:
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2014 - 2:25 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Ada for posting that. As a newcomer I really appreciate the info. Lots to learn, and much of it is pretty frightening.
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2014 - 7:30 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I have very strict dietary requirements: I can only eat food."

Now that's a keeper!!!

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Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 1:08 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Lee,

I hope referencing the topic of GMOs didn't derail the original conversation. I know people on this forum would definitely pick GMOs over MSG any day if given a chance, haha! So it's good to choose your battles sometimes. But what I've read so much on here is that many of us also have a corn sensitivity. And MSG is very often derived from GMO corn!

But if you're new I would say just start with MSG and go from there. It will likely open a whole new can of worms for you daily, and from there you can continue growing and addressing other areas of your diet that you may want to clean up (or not!). When I started on here three years ago, I removed MSG first. I later decided to remove GMOs, gluten, corn, soy, dairy, and sugar from my diet over time. I definitely hadn't originally intended to do so, it just came naturally for me. :-) So now I just eat whole fruits, vegetables, eggs, meats, grains, rice, potatoes, nuts, pasta (made from brown rice), and I have a super varied and exciting diet and never want for flavor! (It helps having a mom and step dad that love to grill.) My husband doesn't eat meat but we coexist just fine, and I don't eat meat most of the time that we're together (just to make things easier, he isn't repelled by it or anything).

And yes Pat, I LOOOOVE her quote: "I can only eat food." That's how I feel! I LOVE eating clean, and I love the way it makes me feel! I definitely didn't feel that way in the beginning. I was frustrated, resentful, scared, and I felt alone. Now I am having FUN. And I just turned 30. Yay!
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Posted on Monday, October 27, 2014 - 3:56 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ada, thank you so much for the kind words and the advice. I am a little overwhelmed with all the new knowledge, so just focusing on the msg for now will help considerably. I feel great, but I admit I'm a little fearful about how I can manage eating away from home. I'm carrying Deb's book around like a baby. I'm so grateful for the book and this board.

Thanks for the newbie encouragement. It's nice to hear your success. Shoot, in three years I will be a fantastic cook!

(My apologies for getting off topic. Still trying to figure how the board etiquette.)

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