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Anonymous
 
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Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 2:24 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi All!
First, I want to thank everyone who posts here for saving my life -- I have the same story everyone else seems to of having huge health problems, finding this site, and then making the connection.
I have a question: I'm pretty severely magnesium deficient (from chronic, severe stress related to PTSD), and I really need to find a magnesium supplement that a) I don't react to and b) I actually absorb. I have figured out, through unpleasant trial and error, that I don't absorb magnesium oxide or magnesium carbonate (the much-loved tri-salts unfortunately seem to do nothing for me), and that I have horrible reactions to the aspartate and citrate forms of magnesium. I tried a few different chelated kinds of magnesium before I figured out that those are dicey, and found that while I absorbed them, I also reacted to them if I had more than 200 mg.

So, I'm wondering if anyone has had good experiences with magnesium malate or other forms I don't yet know about. Are there specific brands that you especially like? How much do you take?

I also just need some reassurance: shortness of breath is often a symptom of msg toxicity, right? I have it now, I think from my magnesium supplement, and I'm trying not to invent catastrophic health narratives.
Thanks so much!
Emily
Anonymous
 
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Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 2:50 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I also wanted to add, in case it's helpful to anyone, that I reacted badly to Yes! Organic Market chelated magnesium and also to Solaray chelated magnesium. I don't react to Kirkman Labs buffered magnesium oxide, but I also don't absorb it at all. I hope someone find that useful!
Emily
sara
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Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 9:50 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Have you tried Epsom salts soaks or using Magnesium Oil (which is really a brine)?

The Magnesium oil does irritate my skin sometimes so if that happens I just pick another area to spray for a while or put aloe gel on after the spray to cool the skin down.

I realize it is hard to get a lot of magnesium in foods but try to get a couple servings of high magnesium foods in your diet daily. I can actually handle pumpkin seeds but can't other nuts or seeds right now. Just google magnesium rich foods. Here's one place

http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=75
LisaS
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Posted on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 10:15 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We use Magnesium Glycinate and it is one of the most absorbable forms, plus the glycine can be helpful to protect from glutamate. Amy Yasko says glycine can be a "fair weather friend" and increase glutamate toxicity but I've not seen that in our family.
Anonymous
 
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Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 5:49 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks so much for these suggestions! I just got some magnesium glycinate, and I'll see how that goes. Do you know what she means by "fair weather friend"?
Thanks for the oil and epsom salts recommendations -- I haven't used those in any ongoing, concerted ways, but it sounds like I should look into those.
I primarily eat green leafy vegetables and legumes and homemade yogurt (I react to anything that isn't a whole food, and I can't tolerate nuts or grains at the moment), so I was surprised my food intake wasn't cutting it. I'm generally try to not take supplements in favor of nutrient-rich food. I think my cortisol levels made getting adequate magnesium without supplementation a losing battle.
Has anyone tried magnesium malate? I've also seen references to magnesium orotate? Are there reasons to take any of these kinds over others?
Thanks again!
Emily
Di
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Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 3:49 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anon (Emily), Can you explain the cortisol/magnesium connection - I don't know anything about cortisol, but do know my magnesium levels are always a bit low.

BTW did you know you can post using "Emily" as your Username?
EmilyS
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Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 7:57 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I used tri-salts from www.needs.com:

http://www.needs.com/product/Ecological_Formulas_Tri_Salts_200/b_Ecological_Formulas

It has 250mg. or 65% of your Magnesium you need in a day in 1/2 tsp.

It's a straight powder and I've never had a reaction (I react to any other supplement). It does taste like chalk so you have to gag it down but it's been great for me the past several years.
ali
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Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 12:09 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ive finally got hold of some epsom salts for my little one. Has anyone any experience of bathing kids with epsom salts? As i understand it, this will up her magnesium levels. Is it a good idea to do this regularly as a preventative/protection for any future "poisonings" or is it to be done after she has had a reaction to lessen symptoms? How much should i put in the bath water?
Thanks for your help
Ali
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 5:27 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Epsom Salt in Bathwater for Kids

http://www.livestrong.com/article/552573-epsom-salt-in-bathwater-for-kids/
Tom Fernstrom
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Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 6:28 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

All,

I take Magnesium Orotate powder (1/4 teaspoon per day) along with Taurine powder (1/4 teaspoon per day)

http://www.beyond-a-century.com/Magnesium-Orotate-Powder-200-Grams_p_613.html

http://www.beyond-a-century.com/Taurine-Powder--300-grams_p_120.html
ali
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Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 7:00 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks guys. :-)
Emily
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Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2012 - 5:18 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wanted to report back on my discoveries in case anyone finds this useful!

So, I tried taking magnesium glycinate powder with no other ingredients (NutraBio Chelated Magnesium) and also a magnesium glycinate/magnesium malate powder with no other ingredients (Albion Bio-Available Magnesium). I reacted very badly to both (depression, brain fog, lethargy, etc.). I am also supposed to be taking iron, and I seem to react the same way to ferrochel, which is iron glycinate. I had been assuming that reaction was to cellulose and magnesium stearate, which it may partly be, but I'm also thinking anything with the word glycinate in it is a problem for me.

I just took magnesium orotate (Beyond a Century), and it cleared a good part of my reaction. So, that one seems to be safe for me so far.

I hope that's helpful to someone with a similar dilemma. If I find an iron supplement I can take, I'll report back on that, too.
ali
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Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2012 - 5:29 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the feedback Emily. I was just looking at magnesium sprays and powders in our health store and i couldnt remember what people here recommended and reacted to. Ill be sure to steer clear of glycinate. Glad to hear you found some relief with the magnesium orate.
Emily
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Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2012 - 5:36 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, I have one other question:
For those of you who take BAC's magnesium orotate, how much do you take per day? I'm noticing 1/2 tsp provides 17% of the RDA, which would argue for taking 2.5 tsps if one wanted to get about 100%. Does anyone take that much of it? I'm magnesium deficient, and I probably should be taking about 400 mg/day, but somehow 2.5 tsps seems like a lot...
Emily
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Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 9:44 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm sorry I have so many questions!
So I just started on magnesium orotate, and I seem to be reacting to that one, too -- my face feels very flushed, and I feel exhausted and unable to think clearly. It feels more like a histamine reaction than my other bad reactions, though.
Does anyone know why that would be? Are any other people just flat-out unable to take ANY supplements?
LisaS
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Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 8:59 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

wow, that's tough, Emily. I wish we had ideas for you...let us know if you ever find your answer as I'm curious.
Deb A.
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Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 9:08 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Emily, what brand of magnesium orotate are you taking?
SistineKid
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Posted on Friday, May 10, 2013 - 3:41 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for sharing, Emily. I'd be interested knowing if you were ever able to get good results?

So I seemed to be reacting to Magnesium Citrate and Magnesium Glycinate, so I have been taking Vitamin World brand Magnesium Chloride 617mg (Magnesium Chloride Hexahydrate, with other ingredients: Dicalcium Phosphate, Vegetable Cellulose, Silica, Vegetable Magnesium Stearate). Unfortunately I think I may be reacting to it as well.

Today I ordered Beyond-A-Century Magnesium Orotate powder and will try that next.
SK
SistineKid
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Posted on Friday, May 10, 2013 - 3:48 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for sharing, Emily. I'd be interested knowing if you were ever able to get good results?

So I seemed to be reacting to Magnesium Citrate and Magnesium Glycinate, so I have been taking Vitamin World brand Magnesium Chloride 617mg (Magnesium Chloride Hexahydrate, with other ingredients: Dicalcium Phosphate, Vegetable Cellulose, Silica, Vegetable Magnesium Stearate). Unfortunately I think I may be reacting to it as well.

Today I ordered Beyond-A-Century Magnesium Orotate powder and will try that next.
SK

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