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Tracey
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Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 11:27 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi. I was wondering what kinds of toothpastes and soaps, shampoos, face washes, makeup, etc. are safe to use. I just realized that I am still using a toothpaste with fluoride in it. I'm trying to rid myself of all the possible things I could be reacting to. Thanks everyone!
kristy
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Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 6:40 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I bought a bar of 100% coconut oil soap in the beginning and used it for hair, body and teeth. I also used coconut oil for deodorant and moisturizer. I don't use makeup, shampoos, etc. since I am allergic to corn, but maybe someone else can help with that.
Di
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Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 8:42 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Many use baking soda instead of toothpaste.
guruofmsg
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Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 12:10 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I use Weleda Plant Gel Toothpaste from Whole Foods. The other Weleda toothpastes have carrageenan added.
Mariann
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Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 1:02 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tracey getting rid of the toothpaste and creams definitely helped me get rid of the mystery migraines I was getting even when I ate only safe foods. I also rinse off the coating on ibuprofen if I use it and the prilosec that I take. I am convinced that those items were creating a cumulative situation for me. I use pure goat mulk soap with lavender and cinnamon and another essential oil that I can't remember. I got it at the local farmers market. I think Deb gets some lavender and olive oil soap that she uses. I am going to try the coconut oil for a moisturizer Kristy, my skin is getting dry. Although since I found the goat's milk soap even my hands are less chapped and the skin isn't so dry and itchy. Kristy thanks for the ginger tea recipe, I'm drinking it now and loving it. Hubby had his post op check-up and is doing great. Mariann
kristy
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Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 4:22 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tracey,
Here is a list of products for a starting point: http://corn-freefoods.blogspot.com/2007/12/corn-free-foods-products-list-dec-2007.html Some of these are no longer corn-free but it is the best list we have.

Mariann, I am hoping one of the local soapmakers will have some soap for me when the farmer's market reopens. I am glad you are enjoying the ginger tea recipe - we will be drinking it iced this summer. I would say it one the best things I've learned in the last five years.
Mariann
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Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 10:15 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kristy yes I agree it is a great thing to have learned for me as well. I made a large amount of Ginger tea and have it in the fridge right now, I will be having some later. I wonder what kind of ice pops that would make. The Ginger is so different than the dry stuff isn't it. I am hoping that the people that have the soap will have some cheese for me. Right now they are having babies so there is no more milk for cheese, but come Spring I will be right there to try it. Get this, the citrus in the soap is actually from citrus fruit, what a concept. I sent in my two cents on the Monsanto issue and EMailed a plea to those people on my EMail list that will be happy to add their opinions too. Will they ever stop trying to mess up our whole food supply? I'm thinking not. Mariann
kristy
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Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 10:14 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I read another ginger recipe that I want to try: use a vegetable peeler to cut paper thin slices of ginger. Place them in a small airtight jar and cover with honey. Leave it for a week or two. You can use the honey to sweeten tea and eat the ginger slices like candy. I keep meaning to try this but have been busy with other things.
Tracey
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Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 10:38 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Kristy. I just looked at the tropical traditions site and I'm excited to order some of the products! There are a ton to choose from. Do you have any specific recommendations? Are all their products safe? Thanks so much!
Mariann
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Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 1:28 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kristy I am going to the kitchen to make that ginger honey concoction right now. Thanks. Mariann
kristy
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Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 6:07 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Tracey, I always keep these products in the house: unscented lip balm, unscented moisturizing cream and/or lotion, large jar of virgin coconut oil, shredded unsweetened coconut, coconut cream concentrate, and pure coconut unscented soap bar. I've never tried any of their other food products but some of it looks delicious.

Mariann, please let me know how it turns out. I really need want to try it myself.

Kristy
Tracey
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Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 9:16 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Kristy. I wanted to ask you one more thing. I was at Whole Foods the other day and I found organic virgin coconut oil. It is unrefined, expeller pressed and the brand is 365 (Whole Foods brand). The ingredients are 100% organic expeller pressed unrefined virgin coconut oil. Is this safe to buy? And it says its produced in a facility that also processes peanuts, milk, wheat and soy. Since I am sensitive to peanuts, wheat, milk and soy, does this mean that I should always stay away from foods that share the same facility as the foods I'm sensitive to? Thanks! Just wanted to get your input before I make any decisions.
Tracey
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Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 9:48 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Kristy. I wanted to ask you one more thing. I was at Whole Foods the other day and I found organic virgin coconut oil. It is unrefined, expeller pressed and the brand is 365 (Whole Foods brand). The ingredients are 100% organic expeller pressed unrefined virgin coconut oil. Is this safe to buy? And it says its produced in a facility that also processes peanuts, milk, wheat and soy. Since I am sensitive to peanuts, wheat, milk and soy, does this mean that I should always stay away from foods that share the same facility as the foods I'm sensitive to? Thanks! Just wanted to get your input before I make any decisions.
kristy
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Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 3:12 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tracey, I do generally avoid things that share a facility with my other allergens, but I may be considered overly cautious. I've read about a lot of the expeller pressed oils made in this country use citric acid and a de-gummer for the machinery so they can be tainted with GMO corn. I don't know if this is the case for 365 brand or Spectrum (I've seen both at Whole Foods in the past), but I stick with Tropical Traditions precisely because of the low tech way it is produced. The fact that it isn't made on our continent (I'm sad to say) is also a bonus in my book.
Di
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Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 5:47 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's kind of mixed bag of feelings isn't it: to be glad it's made elsewhere (although there are several countries I would not be glad about), but so sad that we are not supporting 'made in the US'.
Mariann
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Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 11:38 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kristy just wanted to thank you again for the ginger tea recipe. My grand daughter was coming down with a chronic cough, cold, feverish thing and my daughter used your recipe to make her ginger tea. She is very game to try new things and loved it. She sipped it all day and called to tell me how much she liked it. My daughter gave her pickled garlic as well and the next morning my grand daughter got up feeling great, singing in the shower I hear. Thanks again. I made the honey ginger, just waiting for it to season. I am so glad that the message board is up and running again. I missed the updates and worried about our newbies without some feed back from those of us just ahead on the road to being healthy. I hope you are all doing good. Mariann
Deb A.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 8:14 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kristy, I think we need your ginger recipes again..especially the honey ginger...and what is this pickled garlic mentioned?? I steep fresh ginger in hot water for tea quite often and I add it to my green smoothies...love it...and crystallized ginger.
Mariann
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Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 11:48 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb the pickled garlic that my grand daughter used was done by me. It was organic garlic and I did it up as a preserve. I will send out the recipe later as I have to leave to go to her Soccer game right now. Kristy does fermented veggies with Kosher salt, but I used Braggs organic apple cider vinegar for the garlic that I did instead of the white vinegar. Mariann
kristy
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Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 4:53 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Di, It really does sadden me. I fear that our country has gone too far down the GMO road to come back successfully. It is an increasingly hostile place to those that are allergic to corn and soy. Now when people talk about labeling GMOs, I'm sad because I know it won't happen. Every label of every product on the store shelves would have to be changed and nobody will go along with that. It is cost prohibitive.

Mariann, My kids and I survived swine flu armed only with ginger tea. We kept a pot on the stove the entire time. I'm so glad the recipe is helping others. Once we ran out of honey and tried making it with sugar and it was just not the same. I don't think it worked as well, either. I know what you mean worrying about the newbies. I saved a response that I was writing when I found out it wasn't working and posted it as soon as it came up again. :-)

Deb, My ginger tea recipe is on my blog: http://www.livingitupcornfree.com/2009/11/ginger-tea-is-elixir-of-health.html I just found a new recipe for ginger syrup for making ginger ale and I will post it, too. I will put a link here when I get finished. I want Mariann's pickled garlic recipe, but I also want to try making them with sea salt brine. I made some refrigerator pickles with cucumber, onions and Braggs ACV and they gave me a headache after aging two days. (My typical fga reaction) My homemade ketchup does not cause this problem for me made with the very same vinegar and you would think it would be worse - weird. Also, I have fermented the very same ingredients using the sea salt method and it caused me no problems even after fermenting for three days and being in the fridge for a week (would have tested it for longer but they didn't last. haha).

The honey ginger recipe is a few posts above this one and I will start a new thread with the post to the ginger syrup. Kristy
Mariann
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Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 5:36 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kristy I would love the ginger syrup recipe, ginger is my new favorite thing. I got the recipe from a friend for pickled garlic. She had made it for my grandkids and they loved it. 10 and 12 years old. They are way ahead of me in getting healthy foods into them. Anyway I digress. The recipe is on the internet if you Google "how to make pickled garlic" it is the fourth one down, I think, Gourmet Garlic Gardens Preserving Garlic. I changed mine a bit, because I didn't want to use white vinegar or wine, I just used Braggs organic apple cider vinegar instead. It worked great. I hope you all like it. It's amazing how good it tastes and leaves no garlic smell on your breath. There is great information there as to how great garlic is and how to preserve it by freezing or drying as well. Prepare to spend some time reading on that one it is very interesting. Mariann
Mariann
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Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 4:25 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kristy the ginger honey is coming along, I made it a bit ago and am waiting for it to get ready. I'll let you know. Mariann
kristy
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Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 3:04 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since this thread was originally about soaps, etc. I thought I would post about the soap I found today. I asked at the farmers market in November if a lady would make some custom soap. She said it will be ready next week. It is pure olive oil superfatted soap (that means more oil is added than is used up by the saponification process so it will be moisturizing soap) and she was super pleased with how it turned out. I also found another soap that we are going to try today. Who knew that the farmers market could be such a good source of soap? I found that the soapmakers (at least three of them at my market) were very interested in making pure unscented soaps because they are getting more requests for them now than ever before.
Mariann
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 4:29 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yay for the Farmer' Market and especially yay for the soap makers. That is where I got my goat's milk soap. My daughter has a lot of trouble with exsyema (spelling?) I gave her some and she is seeing a big improvement in her hands. The soap maker told me that is why she started making it for her niece who has a lot of problems with that hard to spell problem. She isn't making cheese right now because they are waiting for the goats to have their babies. So she can't use the milk now. Some people still make cheese and etc. because they use frozen milk. She uses only fresh and it is only hours before we get it in our happy little paws. I can hardly wait. She doesn't use rennet or enzymes, just and old recipe that uses vinegar. I am a little concerned about that, but I will try it just to see. Worth a shot. I can't wait to hear how you like the cookies Kristy. Someone here asked about mineral make-up. I spent a bunch of money buying all the stuff last year and ended up giving it all away when I got a headache every time I put it on my face. Later I read that the base is pretty much total corn starch, no wonder it is so silky and a problem for me. So I would say try it at your own risk and only buy a little bit to start with, not the whole shameel. Mariann
Deb A.
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 8:03 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I found a wonderful soap at T.J. Max a few years ago. They're made in France and contain mostly olive oil. The other ingredients are Palm and Palm kernel oils, glycerin and pure essential oil. The company is Savon de Marseille. Four large bars in a box are $7.99. When I see them available, I snatch several up.
Mariann
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 9:03 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb A I am so glad that you posted about the soap. I was at Home Goods buying a new cast iron, porcelin clad braiser the other day and i saw some interesting soaps. I remembered you posting about that a while back and wondered about it. I will be checking out T.J.'s and the other good deal stores. I'm jotting down the ing. to keep in my purse. Thanks. Mariann
Mariann
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 2:34 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deb, I was reading your book again today, I have a doctor's appt. tomorrow to discuss some surgery. I am requesting certain things be done while I am in the hospital such as IV that is saline instead of dextrose based and having him put on my chart that I will not be eating any of the hospital food. I have a bunch of my own ready and my husband will make sure to get it to me. It is so helpful to have all the information that I wanted to refresh my mind with handy in that publication. I am going to give him a list of offending ingredients in hopes of not getting sick on top of surgery. Thanks for compiling all that good info for us and sticking with us even now, years later. Mariann
Deb A.
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 10:43 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Mariann...glad the information is helping you, even for your surgery. All my best wishes...and DO avoid that horrible hospital food! :-)
ali
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Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 8:14 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have a question about toothpaste and children. Ive just made the rather silly mistake of using toothpaste for the first time with my little one who is almost two. I got the mildest kids one i could find but of course, we have had a few unsettled days where she has obviously been having a very mild reaction to something. She just wasnt quite right.:-( Well having read the ingredients list on the toothpaste and since checked all the ones available at our local store, i realise i cant use commercial toothpaste for her. My husband and i use paradontax homeopthatic toothpaste and have for many years. But it says its not for under six years. I know a lot of you use baking soda as an alternative to toothpaste. I was just wondering if anyone has any experience of using baking soda on milk teeth. Is it too abraisive for such a little person??? Im a bit wary to try it. Or if anyone could point me in the direction of a tried and tested childs toothpaste that is safe. I can order on line and have it posted if its not stocked in Ireland. Thanks in advance for you help
Ali
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 1:18 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ali,

I don't react to Weleda toothpaste, and they make a version for children.

http://www.weleda.co.uk/calendula-products/childrens-tooth-gel-50ml/invt/101005/
ali
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Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 1:27 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brilliant. Thanks Roy, ill check that out. Id looked at a couple of childrens organic toothpastes but they still had a couple of dodgy ingredients. This looks like the answer. Thanks for taking the trouble to send the link. You're a star :-) Ali
kristy
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Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 9:08 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ali, I use coconut soap for brushing my teeth. I just push the toothbrush againt the bar of soap for the tiniest amount to be on the brush and then brush away. It doesn't taste like soap and I don't have a lot of foam in my mouth - it works like a charm. I got my soap from TropicalTraditions.com and it has nothing in it besides their coconut oil. Pure and corn-free, additive-free, fragrance-free.

You don't really need to use anything on your little one's teeth. You can just brush with a wet brush as long as she isn't eating any food additives. Once we got rid of the additives, our teeth improved even though our brushing habits didn't change. I think teeth are greatly effected by these additives, we just didn't realize it. The dentist told me to keep doing what I was doing because it is working. I have had root canals, periodontal disease, cavities, receding gums and now all are improved (not gone completely but greatly improved).
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 - 10:32 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't use Burt's Bees toothpastes as their new formulas contain sodium cocoyl glutamate. As they've also removed references to that ingredient on their website (where they used to refer to it as a 'foaming agent'), here is a link to a retailer's site where they do list the ingredient:

http://www.harmondiscount.com/792850002371.html
Deb A.
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Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 11:06 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We found a sale at our Grocery Outlet for Homeodent toothpaste in anise flavor. It's usually a bit pricey, but at $1.00 a tube, I bought a good supply. I've found some great organic foods and cosmetics there.
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 4:43 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's a good deal, Deb A. Here's a link listing the ingredients of some toothpastes in the "natural" category, but too often with carrageenan and sodium cocoyl glutamate in them.

http://biznet1.com/toothpaste/
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 4:45 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

p.s. - This supplier I just linked to is way out of line with their prices.
Deb A.
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Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 2:08 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

no kidding!
AdaLovelace
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Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2015 - 7:44 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've been using Weleda Plant Gel since I saw the suggestion on this board about three years ago. I just noticed today that their "new formula" now contains magnesium aluminum silicate (commonly known as kaolin or kaolin clay). I've read conflicting things on the internet regarding this ingredient. Some people say that it's safe, because the molecules are bonded and too big to be absorbed into the skin - but this isn't something that's going on the skin - it's going in your mouth! Other websites list it as one the ingredients to avoid along with other heavy metals. My intuition tells me that aluminum is aluminum, and I don't want to ingest it. I think it's a shame that they changed their formula - why mess with a good thing?
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Monday, January 26, 2015 - 5:59 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The magnesium may help. "Research have suggested that aluminum may be more likely to accumulate in the brains of persons whose diets are magnesium-deficient -- which, unfortunately, includes 90% of Americans! Several studies have shown that animals fed diets low in magnesium accumulate high concentrations of aluminum in the Central Nervous System." http://www.angelfire.com/az/sthurston/alzheimers_and_aluminum_toxicity.html
AdaLovelace
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Posted on Monday, January 26, 2015 - 9:11 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Roy, that's good to know. But why risk it at all, over toothpaste no less. I'm going to buy up all the old plant gel!
Deb A.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2015 - 9:51 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I found a product called Uncle Harry's Natural Products All Natural Toothpaste. It's a powder and contains: calcium carbonate, mustard seed powder, sea salt, essential oils of peppermint, eucalyptus, clove, wintergreen, and oregano. Since you shake a tiny amount in your hand and run your brush over it, it lasts forever. Their number is 1-866 781 0815....www.uncleharrys.com.
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 - 8:04 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, Deb A.
Ada, I agree, no need to risk it. I mostly wanted to draw attention to magnesium. Another link: http://www.everydayhealth.com/pictures/foods-high-in-magnesium/
Anonymous
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Posted on Friday, January 30, 2015 - 5:55 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The best toothpaste I know of is called Earthpaste, it comes in several flavors, you can get it on amazon and in some stores.
Roy Piwovar
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Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2015 - 3:28 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the recommendation. The link: http://www.earthpaste.com/

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