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Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 9:49 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since I thought I was doing relatively well cautiously expanding my diet without any terrible consequences, I made some terrible decisions at a recent holiday party.

The host was self-described "top-chef" and really went crazy doing awesome gourmet custom cooking of 5 appetizers, 4 main courses, and 3 over the top desserts. It was a 6pm to midnight food orgy of excess.

Hoping and wishing I have been "cured" since I de-MSG'd my diet, I decided to partake:

bacon wrapped shrimp, 5 cheese mac & cheese (and yes: I saw him add parm cheese), marinated meats, coke, raspberry choc log, mega choc cake, etc.

The next day I awoke feeling like I aged 30 years. My my back was sooo stiff: I could barely move!

Further complicating my ability to specifically narrow it doiwn, it might be "cumulative" because during the week previous, I fell off the band wagon: started eating Frito Lay Organic Yellow Corn Chips by the bag, perogies, had a double-quarter pounder & large fries & large coke at McDonalds,

Whether cumulative or just from the party, the sudden back stiffness is what happened 6 months ago, before making the MSG connection, and having huge QTY's of free glutamic acid every day: I experienced terrible back & muscle stiffness, culminating with throwing my back out (something that never happens to me).

And, to make matters worse (2 days after the party, I was out doing errands, got totally starving, and got a double hamburger plain & fries at Burger King.

The day after that, I was at a reception where the menu was cold cuts. I had only swiss cheese, french bread, but lots of xmas cookies & brownies. The day after that, sure enough: I thew my back out (but not as bad as 6 months previous).

The connection between diet and stiff back & eventually throwing out my back seems like it might be related to inflamation of the gut. Since the intestines wrap around the spine, it doesn't showck me. Or maybe, it's an overall systemic reaction.

Of course, based on adding so many things, and I can't exactly prove the offending ingredients.

For the night of the party, it was fun to be "normal again", but I'm not sure I should repeat that.

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Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 11:53 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Welcome to the world of human frailty Mike. I'm so sorry that you have to now pull yourself out of the hole again, but you will and it will be quicker. Sooner or later we all realize that a couple of minutes on the tongue is not worth the joint pain, headaches, troublesome tummy and generally feeling like a piece of garbage that they forgot to pick up two weeks in a row. Sorry for the graphic description, but you know we have all been there. I finally realized myself that the people were more important to be with than the food. Then you have to convince your well meaning friends and family of that as well. It isn't easy to stay on the straight and narrow when you are not only fighting yourself, but other people. You know as well as I do that we even get blind sided when we think we are being so "good". Soon you will be back in business and feeling good again and you will remember this. It took a long time for me to understand that you can't make a good decision just once and then float along. It has to be made over and over and when that involves eating it is sooooo hard. You can't just give up eating like you do cigarettes or other bad stuff. You have to eat each day, so it IS harder. Take it easy on yourself and feel well soon. Until then we understand. Mariann
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Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 12:03 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Mariann,

You always say the nicest things.

Your message is very much appreciated, thanks!

Marnie B.
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Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 3:19 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

MikeS, the good news is you have totally made the connection that your bad food choices caused your consequences. Get back up on that horse and stay focused on healthy eating for the holidays and you will be back to normal ASAP.

You have come a long way in a short time. HANG IN THERE!
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Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 10:27 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mike, I never knew about your back troubles before. I am sorry to hear of it. Almost everyone in my family has suffered back problems ranging from short term to life altering. My back is finally getting better but when I was sickest, I was unable to lie down flat. It felt as if the vertebra of my back were pulling apart if I tried, it was excruciating. I still don't sleep lying down (adjustable bed), but I can lie down for short periods now without pain. If I accidentally get corned, I suffer from back pain every time.

My older brother has had back surgery and has been diagnosed with permanent nerve damage. My younger brother had a slipped disk when he was in his early thirties and his back is still not right. My mother has lower back pain all the time, too. They all suffer from some of the same symptoms that I did and I suspect all of them are allergic to corn. This makes me think that some of us are genetically predisposed to have lower tolerance of food additives and maybe our symptoms are genetically mapped out, too.

Anyway, hope you feel better soon. A good heating pad has always been an important appliance at my house. I hope you have one of the good flexible ones that will stay on more than an hour.

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Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 7:12 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Kristy,

I know there are people with chronic and terrible back problems.

The interesting thing for me is that I don't, and I had problems out of the blue when changing around my diet.

I remember about 6 years ago I had started eating pizza often after previously avoiding dairy wheat for many years.

Out of the blue, I bent down to pick up a piece of paper from the floor and thew my back out (first time that ever happened to me).

At the time, I thought it must have been the dairy & wheat, but with the events of the last year in mind, free glutamic acid certainly is a possibility.

At the time, I indeed felt that the intestines were inflamed and reacting to the change in diet, and since the intestines wrap around the spine, it seemed logical to me that a sudden back problem could result.

But again, the cocktail of cheese, tomato sauce, wheat and probably seasoned salts & free glutamic acid makes it hard to identity which item was the culprit.

Based on recent experiences, I don't think it was the wheat because I've been having whole wheat pitas from whole foods (very clean ingredient list) without problem.

Oh well, the quest continues,


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