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cathy218
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Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 8:41 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So to make this short, I had severe sensitivities to all chemicals ingested and inhaled starting a year ago. Have cleared diet over the past months all anaphalaxis, hives, the whole enchilada. So the only symptom I can not get rid of is extreme inflammation in my neck, sinuses, shoulder and back. It causes light headedness. Spent all last summer in bed due to extreme dizziness...with two boyz. This summer will be better.

So I recently had several NAET. After the treatments the inflammation was gone. First time in a year that I was inflammation free. But after drinking distilled water the dizziness returned immediately. Then after another treatment I drank another type o water with vitamins and the chloride versions of the vitamins caused the inflam. So here is the clencher.....

Went to Hawaii for a week and all symptoms GONE. Absolutely no reactions and no inflammation. Now WE all know there must be an environmental factor with my issue. So wondering how one can test their air quality as we live in a farming community in Walla Walla, WA. The city health dept. was so uninformed I am livid and appauled. And anyone have info on what nitrates in water and symptoms from that? I do not react to the water in Hawaii or Aquafina. Ideas? Thank you for your time in advance.
Melinda
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Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 9:57 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How interesting Cathy! Ok, so I am thinking how Walla Walla is apple country....pesticides? you mentioned "farming community" and so perhaps you've thought about that, but maybe you could ask a few apple growers what they use to treat pests/insects. Get the names of the chemicals. Then go to NAET with that to get cleared. Otherwise, if you suspect the water, maybe you could invest in a high quality water filtration system? They can be pricey but well worth it if you can pin point that to be the cause. Keep in mind the pesticides can run off into the water system too, so that really could be the root of the problem. Contact the EPA and see if they have done tests or can suggest whom to contact to run environmental tests on the water or air quality there? Lastly, did you take your water to your NAET practitioner to test you for that and if so did they try to clear you for your water?
cathy218
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Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 1:15 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Water Filters, Minerals in Water Reactions

Oh two things:
I was highly sensitive to Citric Acid and was treated w/ NAET for it...and in Hawaii...Drank and ate things I haven't in 6 months or more. Even Sierra Mist w/ citric acid. Anyway, just thought that the water in Hawaii was super soft. Our water in insainly hard. I am thinking I am reacting to the minerals in the water...maybe also chemicals. I read that those with low stomach acid as you and I have...Melinda...can not break down the Nitrates into Nitrites in the gut. Maybe that is the issue?? Does anyone recommend a home filter system...uv, softener, reverce osmosis? I do not know the difference. AND even if you do not drink the water and bath in it...can you react to nitrates through the skin if it is a gut problem?? I feel I am on the cusp of figuring this out and I will be so happy to help others when I kick this illnesses butt ;-)~
Melinda
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Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 8:35 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

cathy, I've heard reverse osmosis is good but don't know alot about it. I recently came across info on Alkanized or Ionized water. There are two brands I looked up - Kangen and Jupiter. Jupiter is far less expensive but both are very costly. Yet, the info I've read about it is inspiring for all health issues. Here are the two websites which you can peruse for info:

JUPITER IONIZED WATER:
http://www.waterionizer.org/site/898596/page/443030#31

KANGEN WATER:
http://www.kangenwaterusa.com/Homepage.html
Dianne
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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 - 7:07 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

cathy218, Re: drinking water

I don't know if any of this is connected to your inflamation problem, but when I noticed your prior problem with dizziness I remembered I had come across some of this last summer.

Chloroform: This colorless liquid has a pleasant, nonirritating odor and a slightly sweet taste, and is used to make other chemicals. It's also formed when chlorine is added to water.

Risks: Cancer, potential reproductive damage, birth defects, dizziness, fatigue, headache, liver and kidney damage.
Major Sources: Air, drinking water and food can contain chloroform.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide#Drinks
Carbon dioxide is toxic to the heart and causes diminished contractile force. Toxicity and its effects increase with the concentration of CO2, here given in volume percent of CO2 in the air:

1%, as can occur in a crowded auditorium with poor ventilation, can cause drowsiness with prolonged exposure.
At 2% it is mildly narcotic and causes increased blood pressure and pulse rate, and causes reduced hearing.
At about 5% it causes stimulation of the respiratory centre, dizziness, confusion and difficulty in breathing accompanied by headache and shortness of breath.
At about 8% it causes headache, sweating, dim vision, tremor and loss of consciousness after exposure for between five and ten minutes.

NIOSH also states that carbon dioxide concentrations exceeding 4% are immediately dangerous to life and health.
Carbon dioxide is used to produce carbonated soft drinks and soda water. Traditionally, the carbonation in beer and sparkling wine comes about through natural fermentation, but some manufacturers carbonate these drinks artificially.

There is also a reference to CO2 in earth's atmosphere and it's not the same everywhere.



on Dr. Mercola's site - don't necessarily think it's your problem, but thought I'd include it anyway because it mentions water/dizziness.

VOCs (Volatile Organic Compounds): VOCs are a major contributing factor to ozone, an air pollutant. According to the EPA, VOCs tend to be even higher (two to five times) in indoor air than outdoor air, likely because they are present in so many household products.

Risks: Cancer, eye and respiratory tract irritation, headaches, dizziness, visual disorders, and memory impairment
Major Sources: Drinking water, carpet, paints, deodorants, cleaning fluids, varnishes, cosmetics, dry cleaned clothing, moth repellants, air fresheners.
Becky
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Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 12:43 pm:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We got a water softener last year from Arizona Environmental Progess and it is great. It is expensive, so you might want to check out other companies too. We also have a reverse osmosis system for our drinking water and we love it. You just need to make sure you change the filter periodically.
Dianne
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Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 7:19 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Becky, Can you tell me what type, brand of reverse osmosis system you have and where did you install it - under the sink?
cathy218
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Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 8:29 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Re: Can nitrates or hard minerals be absorbed thru skin to cause inflammation?

Thanks ladies. So I am ordering a water softner and reverse osmosis this week. Yikes this illnerss is gonna break our bank...already has. But when I finally figure out what the underlining issue is....atleast my family will be healthier...as I can read labels now thanks to all of you.

I have not drank the water in the last few days but the muscle tightness and dizziness/lightheadedness and stuffiness is still there but better. *****Wondering if like sulfites...nitrates can do damage if one is sensitive thru the skin?

I know that I have no stomach acid and when you do not have acid then you can not break down the nitrates into nitrites and then the oxygen is stolen from your blood (something like that, yikes). I also react to some mineral infused water ...so I am think my well water is the last remaining constant that has not been altered.

Thanks in advance for your time.
Dianne
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Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 4:57 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

cathy218, Do you have your well water tested regularly?
cathy218
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Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 7:58 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The nitrates were within "normal" but that does not mean that since I am sensitive that I could be reacting to the nitrates or the minerals in my VERRRRRRRY hard water. Gonna get a softener and reverse Osmosis this week. Something substancial happened while on vacation and I was better...absolutely no inflammation in my neck which leads to lightheadedness. The water there was very soft so praying that's the ticket. Just wondering if minerals from hard water or nitrates in water can go thru skin during showers etc and make one react?
Dianne
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Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 11:24 am:   Delete PostPrint Post   Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

cathy218, pages 263 and 264 offer some info about nitrates permeating the skin

http://books.google.com/books?id=PyUSgdZUGr4C&pg=PA263&lpg=PA263&dq=nitrate+permeate+skin&source=bl&ots=IJTQ67sZqZ&sig=GbZQQGD-X1wWQ2Cj4o5Brd4IerM&hl=en&ei=SRsLSve7NZWWMcm_vd8L&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5

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