| Author | Message | ||
| deb |
I have been de-toxify since Jan. 13, but only seem to be getting worse with my hives and swelling and Fibromyalgia. Is there any link between land of lakes butter and my reaction. It seems to be the only connection I can make. I have only ate raw fruits and veges since sun. The ingredients are cream and salt. I clean all my food and use only sea salt and drink only distilled water. Please can anyone help!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Carol H |
Deb, have you been tested for milk allergy? I get hives and swelling from food allergy to cows milk. Some of us here are allergic to foods as well as being intolerant of MSG. | ||
| deb |
No, I haven't been tasted for milk allergy. I have use milk products my whole life. The doctors won't even test me for allergies, because I can't get off the anahistamine pills. I have angieodema type of hives swelling of the eyes mouth etc. When I took a pill only every other day it gets worse. | ||
| Deb A. |
I always react to Land of Lakes butter, no matter what the label says! One box of it had "Natural Flavors" on it that I tried, and one did not....old boxes that have to be used up may have labels that are inaccurate. I was told by one manufacturer (Stone Buhr white flour) that "yes, we have just started adding malted barely flour to it, but we had a million bags that we had to use up, even though they don't list malted barley flour". I should have reported it, but he said that happens all the time in the food industry. But be aware too, that butter spoils in a few days if it is natural...it tends to get sour tasting. So if it is not organic, it will contain preservatives, mainly sulfites, which a good majority of us who are MSG sensitive also react to. It does not have to be labeled, but preservatives are in butter and all dairy products, which have to shipped long distances and stay on store shelves for weeks. Itching, sore joints, back pain, dry mouth, hives, thirst and stomach distress are some of the more commom effects of sulfite sensitivity. Please check in the book....there is a chapter on sulfites. | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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deb, If you can't get tested because you can't get off the medication, you may want to try an elimination diet. http://www.capitalimmunology.com.au/Pages/urticaria.html http://www.tnp.com/encyclopedia/condition/638/ | ||
| deb |
Dear Deb A. I am so excited for the information you have just given me. I was sure the butter had something to do with my reactions. I ordered you book and 2 others that you recommended at the beginning of the week, but I haven't receieved it yet. You are a God sent for me. I have been so down because my symptoms were getting worse this week. But, like you I knew it had to be msg that was causing my symptoms. Your story has touched me more than you will ever know. I greatly appreciated what you have went through so that others may be helped. I know that God led me to your website so that I may be able to others in the same way as you have helped me. Thank God there are caring individuals out there on your website telling there stories and will to listen to us beginners. Thank you and May God Bless you Deb | ||
| Vicki
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I whole-heartidly agree Deb..I ditto that last paragraph..It is all very overwhelming to say the least! I am doing good these days & am finally feeling human after a LONG year of NOT knowing what was wrong with me..God MUST have sent me here too! Thanks Deb.A. | ||
| deb |
Today Jan 20. This is the first time in a week that my hives didn't get worst after I ate. So I know that it was the butter. I do have another question. Yesterday I Ate the following foods: Breakfast-banana,2 farm fresh eggs Lunch-Baked sweet Potatoe, black beans, 2 small slices of chicken breast seasoned with red pepper. Dinner-small bowl of black beans, baked sweet potatoe and a salad roma lettuce,spinach,cucumber,green pepper.I had a severe stomach pains for 3 hours last night. What do you think it could have been. The last time I had the same symptoms was 1 week ago when I ate 1 chicken plank a few fries and 2 hushpuppies at Long John Silvers before I was aware of msg. | ||
| deb |
vicki I too have been suffering for a long time. I have also read your stories and many others like yours. They all have been such a great help. I started at McDonalds Feb 1999 and was healthy. Then 4 months later I couldn't even walk when I got home from work my feet were so sore and I felt very tired. So I took the summer off to see if I could heal. Fall of 1999 I went back to work only to gradually go down hill with my health. I would tell my family and friends that it must be McDonalds food that is killing my health. I use to be so very active. This was my first job in 10 years. I had chose to stay home with my children until they were older. My routine before McDonalds was to get them off to school and walk about 3-4 miles with my friend, then do my aerobics, then my housework, cook dinner at home, then later at night walk again with my other neighbors. I felt like I was on top of the world. Until my world came crashing down. I have even had a doctor tell my that it was because I exercise to much (can you believe that) I did. So here a am 3 years later and my health is so bad that I don't even want to live this way any longer. But, now because of people like you and so many others I know there is hope and light at the end of the tunnel. I know that I am on the road to recovery and I cannot wait till I can walk with my friends again (I only 35). Once again Thank you very much for listening and sharing your stories. May God Bless you all deb | ||
| Vicki
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Hi Deb, My opinion on your foods? I couldn't or wouldn't even possibly think to eat most of that stuff!! I stick to the basics for right now..NO seasonings, salt and Beef, some Turkey, not processed. But mostly Beef for protien & energy. Bolied eggs No salt of course. And canned fruit,in only light juices & nothing else. Eventually I may do other things. But, for now it's working for me. And I don't have the headaches. And have more energy then I have ever had in a LONG time..Back to excersising is the best for me.. Bananas..as I've read has tyramine in them. And I get stomach aches alone from that..Let alone you are doing potatoes..Are they Organic? I can't do potatoes either.And of course NO chicken here for me unless it doesn't have any salt..And absolutely no seasonings here for me either.. And The veggies? Organic?? If not they may have been sprayed..Veggies & some fruits can be so unsafe..BE careful in that area..Just think plain ole plain ole for awhile. Til your body can get to the point of SOME tolerance in the future. It's pretty blah after awhile. but, it's well worth it & one gets used to it after awhile.. And for a treat I can do Planters Dry Roasted UNsalted peanuts..and Plain Rice cakes..Boreing I know, but it works..Forget some of the spices for awhile..and try some Beef..I've felt so much better this past week without Chicken!! Although I do have a source that may have some chicken I can eat..Although going 3 days without a headache? I'm more apt to stick to what I'm doing so far..Good Luck Deb...It CAN get better, just hang in there & think more simple for now... | ||
| Carol H |
Deb, did you use salad dressing on your salad? Also, fresh supermarket chickens are often injected with msg containing "broth" and such. I'm glad you're seeing light at the end of the tunnel. I promise you it's not a train, or a gorilla with a flashlight  | ||
| deb |
Carol I havn't used any salad dressing. The chicken was bought at a local locker house. They said that they don't use any additives. They were recommeded by many people that are msg sensitive. I think that maybe I know what cause it. Thursday, Jan 17 I ate at Chili's rest. I had a half of piece of grilled chicken. I heard it can take days to rid the body of msg. I talk to the corp. office of chili's and was reasured that they don't purchased any product with msg and they do not add any msg to there food. I told the local rest. Please don't put anything on my chicken not even butter or any seasoning at all. But I cannot be sure. Thanks for the info. deb | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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deb, Chili's marinates their chicken before they grill it - the marinade could have anything in it: http://www.chilis.com/htm/menu_chilisgrill.htm | ||
| Ruth |
Deb, NO RESTAURANTS! Even if they say the food doesn't have MSG, it has plenty of glutamates and sulfites. Nobody working in a restaurant is going to know the hidden sources of MSG. It's in everything. Many vegetables can give you gas pains, especially beans and cucumbers. Maybe you shouldn't eat them so often, or together in the same meal. It's good to rotate foods every 4 or 5 days if you can. Restaurant French Fries have sulfites on them to keep them from turning brown before they're cooked. If they aren't organic, they probably have AuxiGro on them, too. The oil they are fried in is awful. Besides the preservative TBHQ, it has other bad things in it. I got one of the worst headaches of my life eating MacDonalds French Fries. Try and slow down, eating only foods you know are safe for a few days. Then add one food at a time and see how you do. You might find that you have to eliminate foods for weeks before you find a few safe things to eat. Everyone reacts to foods differently. What's safe for one person is not safe for another. You must find all the hidden sources of MSG and eliminate them. If you are still suffering, then go on to the foods high in natural glutamates (tomatoes and mushrooms, etc.), and eliminate them if they are giving you problems. It might just be how long you are cooking them. This learning process can take a while, with great strides and little set-backs. Don't get discouraged. It will be worth the effort. | ||
| Gerry Bush |
deb- I don't do Chili's! NEVER! That chicken for sure was the problem. We have a local meat market in town that also has special farm raised chicken that the butcher told me were just chicken, no additives. Well I got sick after eating just a piece of it. Gave the rest to the poor dog. The only chicken I can eat is either Youngs Farm or Empire Kosher. But do not eat the ground turkey from Empire, as it has natural juices....msg). Has anyone tried organic brown rice cakes with a little organic almond butter on them. They taste much better this way. For a quick lunch on the run, I take along a can of "King Oscar Extra Small Sardines in Fish Oil". You can get them at Trader Joe's and are in a small yellow box. | ||
| Deby |
I love the Lundberg farms brown rice cakes/almond butter(Kettle Brand)....a real treat, tell me don't you eat a brown rice hot cereal? I found one yesterday...forgot the brand. Could you tell me which one you use? Don't think I could do the sardines...I have been buying Foster Farms Chicken breasts...so far so good, but I am still feeling a bit to crummy to tell...just trying to take it one day at a time. Deby | ||
| Deb A. |
Deby and Vicki, you are so very welcome...and I can't begin to number the people who have called or written to say that they found our site and book after they had reached the end of their rope and had prayed for some kind of miracle. Good to hear it again. These people here who check in to help newcomers are like angels...no kidding...should dub them the "Anti-MSG Angels"!! That they take the time each day out of busy schedules to help each other and anyone who visits here,....well, they deserve halos! And we all benefit from this support group, including me. Thanks again, guys. I want you all to know that we are getting so many calls still about MSG and also e mail and book orders. It's happening...the word is spreading...that program about fibromyalgia and the MSG/aspartame connection has been seen and noted by many victims and their families. They continue to do a seach and find out site. I am getting the best testimonials of before and after excitotoxins stories, and yesterday, I began to start that book I have been threatening to do for a few years....will compile some anecdotal evidence. On another note, we should rememeber that all of us have varying degrees of sensitiviy, and what works for one may not work for another, as far as food products go. When starting, it is wise to keep a food diary..book calendar works well, and be sure to write down how you feel at the beginning of the day, and at the end. If you are reacting, look at what you ate for 2 days prior, and circle the suspect items. Then eliminate them all and see how you feel and after 3 days, you can introduce just one of those items and compare reactions. If you feel fine for 3 days, try another suspect item. Deby, remember to wash and squeeze the chicken well...all meat...most are dipped in a chlorine bath, too. I cannot eat beans often...if canned, they need to be rinsed well, and when doing your own, remember to change the soak water a couple times...never boil for any length of time, either....Bring to boil, cover, remove from heat and soak overnight. Drain and repeat in the morning...use or freeze. If not tender enough, repeat cook and soak method. Beans are high in protein, and we don't want to hydrolyzed them by boiling too much. They can give bad stomach pain and gas, too.MacDonald's adds MSG to the water that their French fries are soaked in and then drained. And they add it to the salt that is sprinkled on them....that is why they smell and taste so good. | ||
| Lois S. |
Deb A. Well I got alittle maltodextrin, and my sensitivity must be getting very bad. Before I just got weak for days like a new born kitten, now the pain starts in my shoulders, goes down to my stomach with severe pain, throwing up, but what scared me this last time, was my whole body turned ice cold to the touch, it took many comforters to warm me up. I called my doctor and he is sending me to a allergy specialist this Friday. The nurse there said they don't test on the body for MSG and the severity. She said we can only tell you how to avoid it, I said, I know how to do that, its coming in so much foods in the hidden form that I have to watch out for. I have the list of the hidden forms and now the AuxiGro that there spraying on our veggies and fruits write up that I've made copies of to take with me so he can read how bad the problem is. My doctor said he has never seen anyone so sensitive like I am, but this last ordeal really scared me with the body turning cold. I thought I was for sure shutting down. Is there anyway there is help for me in these symptoms. I have been going all natural, but tried the splenda, well you guessed it, the hidden form maltodextrin. I will be sending out the check for your book this week-end. How much should I write the check for, and do I write it out to you? Bye for now Lois | ||
| Ruth |
Lois, I have found that there are many doctors who know about the connection with MSG and food sensitivity problems, but almost none of them will admit that it can make a person really sick. None of them realize how many hidden sources there are, either. In a city of almost 4 million people, I have found only one doctor (M.D.) who can treat my nutrition problem-leaky gut and yeast. I don't believe that even he realizes where all the MSG is in foods. Anyway, with our combined knowledge, I am hoping for improvement for my headaches. ( The headaches are really much inproved already, just from knowing where hidden MSG is. Thank you Debby and all the people on this discussion board. My biggest fear is weight loss that won't stop, and a diet that is way out of balance, because of "leaky gut" and the fact that almost all foods give me headaches. Escalating food allergies is a big symptom of leaky gut.) He specializes in chronic fatigue and immune system problems. His card says wholistic medicine, nutrition, herbs and vitamins, and he is an M. D., which I feel more comfortable with. Good luck at the doctor. And Deb's book is a wealth of information. You won't believe how wonderful that book is! | ||
| MEMorrisNJ
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Lois - Boy, I know those chills. They don't leave until I pass the toxic food with MSG in it. With lots of wool sweaters on, I find it helps for me to keep moving doing yoga type stretches in between doing very simple tasks. I keep bottled water hot in the kettle so I make drink it steadily. The hot water helps warm me up and detox. (You can add fresh lemon or ginger or have it plain as I do when I am too wiped out to help myself further.) Continue to read past posts here for further tips until Deb A's book arrives. | ||
| Deb A. |
Thanks for the vote of approval for our book, Ruth. Yes, I remember the chills and especially seeing my 19 year old son in our darkened family room, shuddering and wrapped in blankets, his eyes glazed with dark circles beneath. He literally thought his life was over and doubted he could finish college. He is the one who motivated me to find the answer, never thinking it would unlock my own health mysteries. (He's the chiropractor now.. gave up the desire he had to be an MD after the runaround they gave him trying to diagnose and treat him). Lois, you can send a check for $19.00 plus $4.00 for priority shipping to: Front Porch Productions P.O. Box 895 Richland, WA 99352 We will ship it right away. | ||
| Deb A. |
Lois, as for help with the symptoms, I will tell you what I do. I take some Ibuprofen(2to 3) and start with 1/2 (more if my symptoms are more severe, like a migraine) tablet of Benehist ( generic Benedryl that has fewer fillers). The antihistimine fights the body's painful but natural response to toxins. And the Ibuprofen fights pain and inflamation. I drink lots of water constantly, and a hot bath with epsom salts or baking soda helps me relax and warm up. I dim the lights, but be careful not to go to sleep in the tub!!! The Benehist will make you sleepy...in fact if I am reacting, I will put some of the meds by my bedside with water in case I wake in pain in the night. And MeMorris is right...exercise may seem like the last thing you want to do, but by the second day, I walk to the tapes, "Walking the Pounds Away". It works up a sweat, which is a great way to rid the body of toxins, and bring back some balance to our systems. Hang in there and avoid processed items! Splenda is bad for us...try pure stevia products if you are trying to avoid sugar...watch out for fillers in some stevia preparations. I use Wisdom of the Ancients powder and liquid...read the labels, though. And hope you feel better soon. | ||
| Lois S. |
Hi everyone, and thank you for your advice. When I got that cold, I doubled comforters to warm up. I didn't think about hot water, so thanks! I do hope though it don't happen again. For years now I can't take Ibuprofen. I swell up real bad. I can't take any antihistimines either. just one gave me the diarhea really bad. I am also allergic to most medicines. The only pain medicine I can take is darveseted, which I only take for severe pain when I have my bouts with fibromyalgia. Every morning before I get out of bed, I do my stretching exercises for it. I am still in the healing process from back surgery last Aug. So as for exercises, I have to wait for the go ahead from my back doctor. Even then. Its been hard for me to do because I've had 5 back surgeries, so from my waist down, I'm all fused and with rods and screws in my back. My first surgery I had alot taken out of my back and the doctor told me I would never walk again, but I worked for 5 years to walk again and I am, but I can't exercise like a normal person again, so I do what I can, but most inportant to me is to keep up the stretching exercises to ward off the pain of fibromyalgia. How my back got all broke up before you wonder how, is the beatings I took in my first marriage. I divorce him, 5 months after is when all the pain started to have that first surgery. He died now and had a heart attack, so did not have to suffer like me and his second wife. He is suffering now if he didn't ask God to forgive him. Well needless to say, I'm all natural and am feeling so much better today. I stopped along time ago buying anything package. The sea salt that I found in a lot of stuff in the organic store, I won't touch because of the natural MSG in seaweed that is in the sea's. I'm to scared to try it. Thanks again, and yes I read everything I can on the subject of MSG and hidden ones too. Thanks again for all your help, and thank you Deb for having this board to help us all, and I thank God for all you have done to help me understand about this disease of MSG. God Bless You!! Take Care Everyone and have a healthy painless week! Lois | ||
| MEMorrisNJ
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NOT DOCS - That's what I have heard some people call doctors like mine. Well, my session with the family doctor was today and it went as I probably should have expected. I hadn't seen my doctor in about a year although I had managed to get her to authorize tests for various blood levels based on Sherry Rogers protocol summarized in her book entitled, Tired or Toxic (pages 175 and 191). She told me there may be a psychological component to my MSG reactions and what outraged me the most about this was her suggestion that I consider taking Effexor, an MAOI antidepressant. Sure there is that whole mind-body thing that effects our bodies but taking an anti-depressant when I am NOT depressed certainly is not going to help (and I shudder to think what else is in the pills that I cause reactions)!!! But she did agree that I see an alternative physician which is what I wanted to hear. At least she now understands I will be asking for her help in getting blood test prescriptions based on orders from whomever I end up with so I can attempt to get insurance coverage. | ||
| Carol H |
MEMorris. I know what a bummer that diagnosis is. I just got the same one a few weeks ago. I was so upset by that, because I don't feel sad either. Things for me are going well, I'm just a little stressed. Please check out information on the MSGtruth site. There may be a direct effect of MSG and aspartate on the receptors involved in depression. Depression can be a chemical thing, and not so much a sadness. I was very surprised to find out that glutamate blockers are now being considered to treat depression. Effexor is actually an SRRI antidepressant. It blocks seratonin reuptake. It also affects dopamine levels. Because of my history of occupational exposure to aspartame and MSG, and the fact that I trust my doctor (she saved my life twice now), I decided to take the Effexor XR. It helped me feel better right away, but this condition runs in my family, so there is a genetic component in my case. It's hard to be told this. You feel that people are telling you that you cannot cope, that you failed somehow, that you are damaged. But chemical imbalances are real, and MSG and aspartame can cause them. | ||
| Gerry Bush |
Lois S. - I too know those chills and have reported them on this board (do a word search "chills"). It is impossible to get warm and yes the body is ice cold to the touch. In my case, I also go into a sleep state for about 3 hours and when I wake, I am foggy headed for about 24 hours. Since I gave up milk and milk products I rarely get this reaction. But, on occasion, I still get "bit" by the chills. Hang in there...and check this board daily. It is my lifeline to maintaining some sort of a "normal" life. | ||
| Deby |
This too has been the first time in years that I have been cold....so cold...the chills come and go, my sister wondered IF it was the amount of water I am drinking(about 1 gallon)...it comes and goes. Ccan't pinpoint a reason. Wondering if it has something to do with the hyothalmus(sp?)..doesn't that have something to do with affecting our body temperature?...maybe not being so screwed up with msg, is throwing it off? Just wondering. Deby | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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The hypothalamus and body temperature are discussed at this link: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a981106b.html | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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Both glutamate and aspartame pass freely into the hypothalamus per the researcher's letter linked here: http://www.dorway.com/drprice.txt | ||
| Deby |
so what is the reason IF you are not ingesting the poisons anymore?... Deby | ||
| Tom Fernstrom
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Deby, I can't say that I have ever been free of glutamate via ingested foods at any time. Though I am vigilant to avoid foods that I know or suspect contain glutamate, I also know some will get through. The hope is that the levels will be low enough and of the natural glutamate variety such that my body can process it without having it rise to the dangerous level. I feel that over time my body has become less sensitive to glutamates as long as I remain vigilant. I'm hoping this is due mainly to my abstinence, but the CoQ10 could be helping a lot. I hope you too will become less sensitive with time. These reactions are not something that can be turned on and off by short periods of Excitotoxin abstinence. It must become a lifestyle change with NO cheating. I'd also like to mention something else that I noticed in the above postings. Be careful of thinking that certain medications or food stuffs cause the various symptoms being related. When I was still consuming MSG and Aspartame, I had an ever growing list of medications, health & beauty products and food products that caused me unpleasant symptoms. I would eliminate them one by one and frustrate the heck out of my wife because she didn't know what was safe for me to take anymore. Having been off the Excitotoxin merry-go-round pretty successfully for about 3 years now, I am finding that some of the medicines and products that caused me nasty symptoms don't bother me at all anymore. I'm not sure if this is unique to me -- I just thought I'd mention it for discussion. | ||
| Judy T |
Tom, I too take 300mg CoQ10 daily. That's all (besides the mandatory thyroid med and estrogen in small, small dose). I too have improved dramatically over the past year and I do not cheat at all. Occasionally I get bit but even the symptoms are reduced. I doubt the damage to our bodies is ever 'repaired' but I am thankful that with vigilance and doing other good things for my body like rest, reducing stress, doing exercise and eating a well rounded diet, I will hopefully remain at least as 'fixed' as I feel now. | ||
| Ruth |
I, too, am doing much better after a couple of years of avoiding MSG in its hidden forms. I have had to give up most foods high in natural glutamates, one by one, as well as many other foods that I just can't tolerate, and am finding that eating a well rounded diet is difficult. In order to try and add a protein (I eat only chicken, eggs, and occasionally eat beans) to my diet, I tried a very small lamb chop from Whole Foods Market. I also ate a baked apple (baked it an hour), with just butter and cinnamon on it. I wish I had tried them one at a time! My headache lasted 3 days, and I'm wondering if anybody thinks that baking an apple (I can't remember if it was organic) that long can free up glutamates. I do fine with raw apples and don't intend to try a baked one again. I do need to give the lamb chop one more try, as I need new sources of protein. I get headaches from beef and haven't had the courage to try fish. Please let me know what you think about the lamb (they said it's from New Zealand) and the baked apple. Thanks. | ||
| deb |
tom Thanks for the encouragement. I really needed the advice tonight. I have only been doing this for about 2 weeks. One day I'm on top of the world and the next minute I scared about what I have just eaten, even if I know there is nothing in it. My biggest problem is on how to control my hives. The strangest thing about my hives is; they started July 3, 2001 extremely bad (8 antihistamine a day) until Sept. then extremely mild during the next 3 months with only 1 antihistamine a day. Then here I am in Jan. with bad hives again. So I don't know for sure what is causing them. Anyway I am still dedicated in changing my diet and avoiding msg. I guess I need to calm down a little and take it slow. Deb | ||
| Laurie M |
Deb, the only time I get hives is when I ingest MSG in the form of soy. Soy sauce, soy protein etc. Even if it is in my lotion which is very common. I took a bubble bath that had soy protein in it and i itched for two days. I would check your skin care products if i were you. Most body wash and lotions have soy in them now. try using a simple Bronner's castile soap. It is liquid and can even be used for shampoo. Good luck. I hate hives. They drive me nuts. | ||
| MEMorrisNJ
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Tom, Judy and Ruth - It is so inspiring when I hear that someone here is doing well! Thank you for reporting the good news. Ruth - Before seeing your post, I was feeling rather odd from an organic baked Granny Smith apple that I had baked far too long. I thought that perhaps there was some preservative on the skin that didn't wash off and mixed with the pulp and juice which I ate. (I didn't eat the skin). If you pinpoint the problem in the future, I hope you will let us know. | ||
| Lois S. |
What's wrong with this picture? CUB FOODS Ice Glazed Chicken Split Breasts with Rib Meat (frozen) Contains up to 10% of a solution of water, salt, sodium Phosphate and Natural Flavoring. I ate a piece of this, and in 2 hours, I reacted by Throwing up and severe cramps with weakness again. Well frozen chicken is now out! Not much food left that don't have something in it. I'm even afraid of fresh meat. Beef I know is a NO-NO for me. What is CoQ10?? | ||
| Roy Piwovar
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Lois S., There's a good chance that there was MSG in the "natural" flavoring: http://www.truthinlabeling.com/hiddensources.htm | ||
| Ruth |
Lois, Do you have Deb's book, "Battling the MSG Myth?" It's a must read. Do you have a health food store nearby? Make sure the chicken company uses absolutely nothing but water during processing, and that the store doesn't bathe it in anything. Even better is chicken that hasn't been wrapped in celophane. I think the plastic can leak chemicals onto the food. I do buy the plastic wrapped chicken at Whole Foods Market-it's quite a bit cheaper (and not as fresh) as the fresh chicken the butcher helps you with. But it is the same brand as the chicken in the case, and I have no problem with it. It is Bell and Evans, and only water is used during processing. There are other safe brands on this board-you can do a word search. You're better off buying fresh foods, not frozen. I can't eat beef either. Don't give up on chicken- you need all the protein sources you can get. Roy is right-anything that says "natural flavoring" is suspect. I get very angry when companies try to boost the flavor of perfectly good, natural foods (butter), that are fine just left alone. But so many companies use inferior ingredients, so they have to boost flavor. It has taken me years to be able to identify all the hidden sources of MSG, and I still slip up once in a while. I never eat anything that is packaged, except for organic brown rice cakes and fruit leathers from the health food store. My reactions now are just from a few natural foods that I try. Everybody reacts differently to different foods. Just think caveman diet as much as you can. Everything fresh, prepared only by you. Feel better soon. | ||
| Ruth |
Thanks, MEMorrisNJ, for sharing your reaction to the baked apple. I, too, did not eat the skin. I will be brave and try the lamb chop one more time. I saw my obgyn for my annual appt. yesterday, and the doctor was very surprised when I told him I lost 30 pounds (over 3 years) from not dieting, just being "allergic to food." He's never heard of being alergic to foods or leaky gut. The receptionist, who is the doctor's wife, couldn't figure out how I could not want to eat when I had a migraine, and suggested it was psychological. Obviously, she's never had a migraine. I had to explain to her that I don't feel like eating for several days because of the nausea and vomiting-duh! But I walked out of that office thinking to myself that it's easy for others to think it might be all in my head. The fear of eating certain foods and MSG and sulfites is certainly a huge fear for me, but it's a fear of the known, not the unknown. I am so lucky to have finally found a wholistic doctor, there's only one in my city of 4 million people, who can help me with my escalating food allegeries (yeast and leaky gut), which is really awful. I don't think even he knows where all the hidden sources of MSG are, but at least he believes that food can make a person sick. I think a good naturopath can probably do the same thing as this M.D. I just couldn't find one in Houston. I hope you can find the right person to help you. Do you think you might have leaky gut (small perforations in the intestine that allow certain food molecules to leak into the blood stream, causing havoc)? I don't know if I will ever be able to eat a balanced diet and have enough foods to rotate, but I know that this condition is not in my head, and I know it is affecting my health. | ||
| Gerry Bush |
Lois S.- sodium phosphate does me in....literally into bed with chills, horrible itchy blister like rash all over my body. I think that in addition to the msg that was likely in the natural flavoring, you could be reacting to the sodium phosohate. Careful...it's also in most processed cheese, lunch meats, and pork! Also fresh shrimp in the supermarket. | ||
| Judy T |
Lois S: Do a word search for CoQ10. Briefly, it is a substance made by our bodies and obtained in the diet, fat-soluble, and creates problems when deficient in the body. It is an electron carrier and is important to body energy systems, particularly the cell mitochondria, which are known as the energy factories, where it aids in generating ATP. Check out ubiquinone or vitamin Q10 on the internet as well. | ||
| Five |
I too am familiar with those chills. At first it was that old "restless leg syndrome". Lack of circulation, I thought. Then I noticed that the legs felt cold, and then I realized that I was cold all over, but especially the right leg, which is weak because of arthritis in the right hip. I put on long fuzzy socks, maybe long underwear, and a fuzzy sweat shirt, and then wrap in a velux blanket. Monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOI) are definitly to be avoided. You NEED the MAO. In fact some smart enzyme maker could really cash in if he came out with a line of Mono Amine Oxidase. It digests the MSG or other monoamine. Do a search on MAOI. Here is a page with some info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_inhibitor The first part is kind of boring, but go down to where it starts: "MAOIs act by inhibiting the activity of monoamine oxidase preventing the breakdown of monoamine neurotransmitters and so increasing the available stores. ....." Another question in our search for relief is, why are we deficient in MAO? A lot of food supplements are MAO inhibitors. Especially beware of those that promise to stimulate your brain! These things are MAO inhibitors: DMAE, Tyrosine, Vitamin B12, St.John's Wort, Ginseng. My doctor knows about MSG. I asked him why the doctors do not speak out about it. He said it was because they get criticized. I react to organic butter. | ||
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